School Hate Crime: Racist Kid Yells “N Word” While Attacking Black Girl, Breaks Her Nose And Hospitalizes Her. Black Girl Gets Suspendedlocked
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In a shocking, horrifying incident at Shawnee Mission East High School, a Black student was hospitalized after being attacked by a white male student. Despite being the victim, she faces suspension in a case highlighting systemic racism and administrative negligence.
Zero discretion policies come home to roost.
Neutrality is oppression when oppression is the norm.
Bullies rarely get in trouble. Because if they do, their bully parents show up at the school up bully the faculty and drive them crazy for daring to discipline their little shit stain. That's why it's always the victim who gets in trouble.
Also because schools like to claim that they are bully free. Actually addressing bullying problems is hard, but sweeping incidents under the rug is extremely easy.
When my oldest son was in the third grade, a kid jumped in front of him in line (ironically going to an anti-bullying assembly). My son put his hands up to his face since the kid was so close to him. The kid then kicked my son in the side so hard that he left a shoe print on my son's side.
The next day I had a meeting with the teacher, assistant teacher, and the principal about the incident. First, they told me that nobody saw what happened. Then, they told me that my son started it by putting his hands up to protect his face. Finally, the principal told me that my son "isn't the type of kid to be bullied."
At that point, I knew I wouldn't get anywhere with them. They were trying to sweep the whole thing under the rug so they wouldn't need to deal with it. I left the meeting and my wife and I pulled our child from that school. We contacted the superintendent and raised a fuss until they agreed to put our son in another school. (He did a lot better there and now is thriving in college.)
My daughter was bullied so badly by so many kids in her middle school that she woke up one day, broke down and told us she just couldn't face going there anymore. We took her out that day and put her in online school. This was after begging and pleading with the administration to do something about the bullying. The best they did was lecture both the worst bully and her to not fight. This was the day after this bully doxxed her- and therefore our family- and started prank calling her. We don't even know how she got that information. The school didn't care.
Online school is going to be hard. I had to quit my job to help her. But we would rather go down to a single income than have her deal with one more day of that.
I'm having trouble because my kids are huge. Someone punches or shoves them, they don't move. We've managed to stop the reaction, but when they push back the other kid goes flying. Almost all instances corroborated by staff. My kids get punished.
I'm happy for your son, but the fact that these people who are supposed to look after children are so systematically cruel makes my blood boil. Not only for the lack of justice, but because most likely there are children who were in your son's situation in that school who have been suffering much worse.
That or the bully isn't impacted because they don't give a shit about school to begin with. A suspension is just get out of school pass. Meanwhile the kid who cares about school is actually put behind on their schooling.
As a big kid the short bullies wanted to start a fight with, my trick was to go bigger, louder, and be aggressively non-violent to a point. Get the attention of everyone in the room and make it clear what is going down. Psycho analyze the little shit and be loudly empathetic to their shitty home life. Make it clear that I have no ill will towards said bully despite the bullying because I pity them. Make it clear that I have no shame to use against me. Do all of this as loudly as possible. Speak from the belly to project without screeching. I never got reprimanded for being loud and weird.
This worked for the type of bullies I got, results may vary. I watched a lot of MacGuyver, Dr. Who, Star Trek, and animal documentaries as a kids. The through line of all of those was finding less violent solutions to your problems, especially avoiding guns and weapons. If you watch animal documentaries, there are two basic types of violent encounters between animals: predator/prey and same species mating/territorial stand offs. The thing to realize is that the same species disputes rarely do much damage. They're all about making a show. Bullies aren't predators, they're hormonal teenagers. Give them a confusing show and they're more likely to loose interest. Again, situations vary and different tactics may be required, but the main thing is to be get creatively non-violent.
Yep. Bully parents show up with their bully attorneys to bully the district in court. Zero Tolerance exists to protect the school, not the students. That way, in court their lawyers can point to it and say, "Our hands are clean! We have a Zero Tolerance policy! Per district policy, we cannot take sides!"
My wife is half Jamaican and half Iranian, she went to a school in a very working class part of a very ethnically diverse city in the UK, with most of the school having a familial origin in the middle east or India.
She was routinely bullied for being black and called the N word on a daily basis. She was made to feel like a troublemaker for reporting it to teachers and eventually snapped, her kickboxing lessons helped her break a boy's nose with a kick to the face after years of abuse, and she got suspended for it while nobody ever faced any consequences for their racism.
People don't want to punish wrongdoing, they want to keep things "simple" and not have to deal with anything they feel awkward about, so they ignore the repeated "small" incidents and only acted to punish the retaliation because it's deemed disproportionate. Years of racism to the point of having no friends because people were scared of being seen to sympathise apparently isn't as damaging as an afternoon in A+E and some minor discomfort for a week or so. Fuck that school and fuck this mentality.
This story seems like a worse version and we're 20 years on. I'm sure it happens way more than we see in stories like these, they're just swept under the rug and hope nobody calls them on it. Fuck this backwards ass world.
This is a great observation that explains so many ills with our society when the victim is punished. People collectively don't care about justice. They only care about minimizing discomfort. Retaliation is only viewed as the original "source" of trouble making more trouble. I saw this same story play out for a coworker who was bullied by her male coworkers. The "guys" didn't appreciate her around and made her life miserable, so of course she acted out. Thier boss tried to sympathize with her but ultimately didn't protect her because she was one and they were many. Their boss started to view her as a pain in the ass because she would constantly report small injustices that on their own wouldn't be considered harassment.
i remember this story from 30 years ago. here it is; no administrator wants to/is allowed to make a decision. so everyone gets the same punishment, and no actual judgments are made as everyone is at fault.
schools administrators can now be replaced with a matrix of policy, they need no longer be human. this is what happens when parents sue school districts into the ground.
But by doing this are they not opening themselves to even worse lawsuits? A student was called a racial slur and hospitalized and they're handing her the same punishment as the aggressor.
According to the article, racism is a systemic problem in this school. One of the school officials, yelled at some black kids because they were walking down the hall together and thus "were looking intimidating."
When the administration is racist, they're willing to overlook students being racist.
I always hate the blurred lines of administrative disciplinary action or criminal investigation. What is the schools role if a criminal investigation is underway.
Also, I think the article is missing some key facts, like durations of suspensions. I think some could argue that both the boy and girl deserve some suspension, but it by no means should be equal suspension given the racial charged aggression. Is there a difference between a closed fist punch versus a shove? Who through the first punch?
Did the article even mention the date this occurred? It just says last week, which was a holiday week. So come Tuesday not sure how long the suspensions have even been served and what the administration is deciding for next steps.
She defended herself after he attacked her you goob.
There is no defensible argument for suspending her. She very clearly defended herself.
"If someone starts to assault you just say 'no thank you.'
It's against the rules for them to continue."
Actually you can see she’s the one who went for the face first. He was just provoking and pushing.
Bullies rarely start physically attacking people, they just provoke until the victim snaps so they have the green light and can say they’re not the ones who started it. That’s why it’s so hard to frame stuff like this, victims are in a situation of emotional stress and more prone to be impulsive, while bullies know what they’re doing and how to be able to “play the victim” afterwards.
Then it's time to fire all Shawnee Mission East’s administrators.
I wonder if it would fall under the umbrella of a civil rights violation, in federal court.
Or fire all the parents.
Or just, yknow, tort reform.
Tort reform isn't the solution here. Tort reform is used as a cudgel to let bad actors get away with bad actions with minimal consequences. What needs to happen is the State AG needs to step in and defend schools in these cases so the school districts aren't left to their own legal defense.
But doesn’t that depend on how it’s enacted? Writing new laws can go however the author wants it to.
This all comes back to school board elections. How much information is typically available about school board candidates?
Lots of people showing up real fast to make excuses for white supremacists doing white supremacism.... now why does that sound so familiar?
Oh, right... I'm South African!
You ain't wrong. Went through the comments here and goddamn some of y'all need Jesus.
Also, Sawubona! Unjani?
Same thing happens here in South Africa every time white supremacists are caught on camera doing their thing... white liberals will fall over themselves to make up justifications and excuses for their behavior. It's about as predictable as clockwork.
Sorry, I never learned isiZulu - I know a bit of Sesotho, but it's about as good as my German (ie, crap).
y'all ever notice how "zero tolerance" only kicks in once the black girl tries to defend herself? It wasn't zero tolerance when they were shouting racial slurs at her. That was simply tolerated. It wasn't zero tolerance when the white boy beat the shit out of her. When she refused to just quietly take the abuse, however, then "we have zero tolerance for hate or violence of any kind and therefore we have no choice but to suspend both students".
Rights for whites, no slack for blacks.
Conservatives should not be permitted to hold jobs related to children.
Should be protest held outside that school and the homes of the administration until they resign our removed and the student should be unsupended.
This is Amerikkka.
United States of Fascism
I'm glad this story is going viral. I was appalled when I heard about it last night.
School logic.
Defense against bullies is actually terrorism I'll have you know.
Not even surprised
I don't miss KC at fucking all.
They forgot that in the title. But I'm sure it was just an honest mistake...
Also that dude fights like a bitch.
Why would the obvious outcome need to be in the title? The problem being highlighted is punishing the victim.
I completely agree, but I don't think there are any more schools in the US that won't suspend the target of the harassment as well. I talked about this in another recent thread, but a kid in my school was punched in the back of the head when he had no idea it was coming and got the same suspension length as the one who threw the punch
And then they fucking wonder why kids are driven to become school shooters.
Schools are pro bullying. Abolish school
Any more? I got suspended for being bullied a few times in the 90s. Sometimes the bully also got in trouble, seems to have a high correlation with if their sport was in season. I guess when the whole team sucks you need the mediocre players more.
Because it's a misrepresentation of the situation, a better title would be: "School Hate Crime: Racist Kid Yells “N Word” While Attacking Black Girl, Breaks Her Nose And Hospitalizes Her, but both get suspended"
Is this normal in lemmy now? The guys has a good point, but got more downpoints.
Yeah the rosy days of Lemmy that invited discourse only lasted a few months.
Because it's not obvious at all and because it's blatantly misrepresenting the situation?
Yeah bro, that title and description are definitely not trying to race bait folks 👍
He should be expelled. Maybe one day he'll get his punishment. But those parents of hers I bet are talking to a expensive lawyer,
I agree but that's nothing to do with my point.
Yes I know. But it confuses me as to how these schools let kids get away with this stuff.
Doesn't belong in the title. No victim blaming.
How does "a bitch" fight? Doesn't seem like you have much respect for women either.
What you talking about?
Including the bull's suspension as well in the title wouldn't be victim blaming, it's not even like victim blaming adjacent.
"student punches another student and gets suspended"
I don't see any victim blame whatsoever here... Why is your comment in the negative? There's something unspoken behind conversations like this and I have absolutely no clue what exactly that is...
I understand the downvotes for comments along the lines of "there's two sides to any argument"... I understand the victim blaming aspect of that, but "the bully got suspended"? I'm missing something...
Anyone?
It absolutely belongs in the title, and it's not victim blaming, it's just the relevant facts of the situation.
Any number of ways but in this specific instance, it's swinging your fists like a hammer.
Having to lock this post because you guys just can't keep it civil
Hey Paul Rudd... your old school sucks.
She is not suspended for being a victim. I watched a video and while the guy pushed her first, she was clearly trying to hit him into his face first. Even if on personal level I think the guy well deserved it, I do not think school can have policy “it is ok to hit other people into face when they deserve it”.
Nah he put his hands on her first. I think she is well within reason to throw a punch at him for that, especially given that he came at her aggressively, calling her racial slurs.
I watch a lot of soccer, and to me if kind of looked like a yellow card offense, followed by an escalated red card offense, followed by a other red card offense. White kid definitely deserves a much more severe punishment and longer investigation. But I'm kind of thinking it makes sense for the girl to get a shorter suspension as well based on the video clips. I'm kind of curious what evidence the admin has access to when making the punishment. Was this video shared with them?
Fascinatingly, this isn't a soccer game and if it wre, under FIFA rules there's an investigation and severe penalties, up to and including a ban from the sport plus fines/restitution for racism. But in 2023, a person yelling slurs and coming at you with animosity in a school is an immediate and potential life a threatening issue. It's not a game.
The point is there's a difference between a closed fist punch and open hand shove. I think she was justified and throwing the punch. I think the administration probably has to take disciplinary action for it though against her for that though. I just hope she gets a day or two and the other kid gets something way more severe.
If there are plenty of eyes on what's happening and you have somewhat solid guarantees that the yellow card offense is going to result in a yellow card, you have no reason to escalate. However, every adult who has ever gone through school knows that bullying is systematically ignored by the teachers.
Both students walk towards each other calling each other out.
Boy throws racial slur and shoved girl in chest. Boy stands ground.
Girl recovers from shove and retaliates with punch towards face.
Boy returns punch towards girl.
Fight ensues.
I think the girl was totally justified in throwing a punch from a moral POV. Boy is a piece of shit. But from a rules POV I think there is some ambiguity of 3 is defense or escalation. And from an admin POV you probably suspend both since you don't want either in school the next day or two until there is more time to review the situation and deal out discipline. I'm guessing part of the delay is that this happened right before a holiday. Curious if there is any update on the school review and disciplinary action for both students.
I've been pushed aggressively before, and guess what, I didn't punch anyone or start a fight. I walked away
Is this the first time you realize that your life and experiences are not a template for anyone else's life and experiences?
Ever heard of proportional response?
Yes, I have.
Wow so brave 🙄
White boy assaulted black girl. Black girl gets suspended.
I don’t think schools should be teaching kids to “turn the other cheek” when getting pummeled by a bully.
Unfortunately if you "fight" you get suspended. Hard stop.
You say that like it's a law of nature and not a choice made by school administrators.
I don't think it's a law of nature. But within a school it's as close as it gets. The rule is literally called "zero tolerance".
Yeah and it is crap. The rule needs fuckin banned from school administrators being allowed to use it, it only exists to protect the school from liability at the expense of the safety of children, it is beyond stupid.
Yeah, that's what a dumb person says.
I'm not suggesting it's my opinion, I'm explaining the standing rule.
Yeah, I know, but the people still using this rule are dumb.
Did you actually read what I wrote? And the boy is suspended too.
Black girl threw the first punch, she escalated right up to it.
They’re both idiots.
Never mind the black girl is harassing multiple people over “he said she said” bullshit with aggressive claims of racism to kick the whole thing off.
What is the reasonable reaction if someone is calling black people 'slaves', according to you?
What’s a reasonable reaction when you’re loudly (and wrongly) accused of making such statements while being recorded and stood over by a person twice your size?
What’s reasonable when someone does that to your friend and then uses fighting words as you’re walking away?
Go try that outside any pub anywhere in the world and get your teeth knocked out for your trouble.
So you aren't even willing to recognize the possibility that the other kids were being genuinely racist, got it, no need to waste my time with you.
Oh they were accused so they’re definitely guilty!
Starting a fight in a hallway was obviously the best way to handle this. You are clearly the genius we need to solve racism in schools.
If anyone is accused of racism you get out your phones and then publicly lynch the person.
It was so simple all along!
That doesn't make him not a racist.
I noticed this too. She should have stepped away at that moment, but instead responded with force. That being said, she's a teenager and defending herself from someone much larger. This is 100% on the male, even if she made the wrong choice in how to deescalate. We can't expect teenagers to not defend themselves, we can expect them to not be racist assholes.
Without more context ima have to side with the white people here.
There's plenty of context here. Truth is you don't care; with or without context, you'll obviously side with the white people.
Congratulations on contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion....
Whats the context then. Please let me know because the girl baselessly saying 'called me a slave' or the boy yelling 'Nigga' as most gen alpha kids do is not it. What is the context...
So your saying the black girl probably provoked the white boy and she deserves the beating.
Its happened to me so yeah it could be possible.
You have mass school shooting every month and you call shocking incident when two students argues? American propaganda at his finest.
This “victim” created an incident by harassing people over unverified claims of racist remarks then escalates all the way to throwing the first punch.
I know a bully when I see one, and the bully got her nose broken for her effort.
And the part you left out - just before the 'victim created an incident', the male called her a n-word - twice - , then pushed her hard.
Wait, he pushed her. That counts as assault. He put his hands on her first.
Do you think a shove, when they had both closed the gap and were chest bumping each other, is the same as a punch?
Legally it’s not the same though both can fall into the broad category of battery.
Shut up jackass
Yea she definitely should’ve tried that tactic over eating punches until her nose broke.
Someone didn't love you right when you were little, did they?
Tut tut rule 1.
Both my parents loved me enough to teach me when to run my mouth, when to shut up and when to dodge.
I guess that girl wasn’t as lucky as me :)
If you put your hands on someone then they you don't get to complain when they put their hands on you.
He initiated physical contact with assault.
She walked right into him, initiating physical contact, and got the expected result.
The only surprising thing here is the lack of WORLDSTAR being screeched at maximum volume but I guess the tik tok generation do it different.
They weren't "chest bumping"
Closing a gap does not constitute battery
Yes, once you put hands on me, I can punch you in the face. That's the law. Under the law, and for good reason, her reaction is self defense.
One person's punch is not necessarily equivalent to another's, as we saw in this incident. I mean, turns out she needed to have used a more serious form of self defense here. So it's irrelevant whether it was a shove, a punch, a kick or whatever. He put hands on her first and she got the broken nose.
I know when black kids were mean to me in school, I retaliated by calling them the N-word.
Oh wait, no I didn't because I'm not a fucking racist.
No you probably cried about it on 4chan after slinking away.
Well that would be weird because I graduated high school in 1995.
Oh so you absolutely were a racist homophobic little shit but you can lie about it on the internet because the other gremlins didn’t have phones to record you.
Got it. You’re definitely innocent.
You’ve also never seen girls make up rumours to destroy another girl because she’s prettier or smarter or because Brad likes her.
Yep teenage girls are the most trustworthy people out there. Right next to random people on the internet.
Ok?
Oh I lost you because your memory doesn’t span past a three comment chain.
Well, you were there, so you would know.