Thatcher was responsible for many societal ills, but she did at least provide a public, gender neutral toilet for all to use.
Tbf according to Christians, Dhamer is in heaven. Cause you can just say "sorry Jesus!" And all your murder and cannibalism is forgiven.
Also according to Christians, Dhamer is in heaven and his victims are in hell for being gay, ain't that some shit?
There is way more nuance to and lack of agreement on these topics than is presented here.
Do I think God could forgive Jeffrey Dhamer? Absolutely. Do people go to "hell" for being gay? Absolutely not. First, because hell (as in the place of eternal torment) doesn't exist. Second, being gay isnt a sin.
And yes, I know there's an army of other Christians out there who are are foaming at the mouth in disagreement.
Source: am Christian.
I mean it's all made up, we may as well be arguing about valhalla
Gays are welcome in Valhalla, just so long as they fought valiantly to the death like their hetero brethren.
You’re not a real Christian /s
I've had the notion of producing some SDXL images of jesus doing hateful things that Christians do, like holding up a "god hates f*gs" sign or roaring and frothing at a trump rally. Make them see what "Christ through them" looks like. Put it on billboards and shit.
To a sizeable number of "Christians", Jesus is more of an abstract concept than an actual being. Believing he existed is more important than listening to or living out what he had to say. I mean, I've actually quoted passages from the bible to people when they try to rug sweep Trumps many moral bankruptcies or start shitting all over poor people or immigrants. And what do they do? They look down at their feet for a few seconds with a sort of guilty expression on their face. Then, they just kind of shake it off and launch right back into whatever bullshit they were spouting before.
If any of those people ever bothered to crack a bible, they would find a fair chunk of it is spent vehemently railing against the things they are pushing for.
It's ome thing to abstract it and another entirely to be staring at a billboard where your god is shown to be as vile and hate-fuelled as you are. Make them get angry about it, and point out at every enfuriated comment that they're only proving the point.
Good idea. It is odd how the old and New Testament seem to be at odds with each other in so many ways yet “Christians” who supposedly follow Christ seem to think “god” or the Old Testament biblical version of him, outweighs christs teachings of god, whenever they feel like being justified in their hatred. They’re closer to Muslim than Christian in their closeness of actions to teachings.
Girl = I think that trans mass shooter a wee while back. Deadname Audrey something iirc. Don’t remember the post trans name regrettably.
His name was Aiden, apparently. A monster for sure, but I’ve edited my initial comment to reflect their gender.
The guy is Pol Pot
Wasn't the woman a school shooter?
That's a guy. Also, it's kinda scary to think how many school shooters actually could be put into the picture.
Where's Rush Limbaugh?
And reagan
Are you blind?
Apparently I am.
Where is mother Theresa?
She's taking the photo
The cheeky cunt! I hope she enjoys suffering. I've heard it's beautiful.
I don't understand how Henry Kissinger was left to live peaceably and undisturbed his entire life when he was committing such atrocities for decades. Why were the masses not tar-and-feathering him and harassing him with a bounty on his head, trained assassins not pursuing him all these decades?
Because those are the types actions of people who use hate as a tool (same as Kissinger did). You can ask the same about Trump and why he hasn't been assassinated yet (I know, apples and oranges). But what I'm trying to say is that people who are against such attrocities usually don't prefer violence as a means to any end. Just my opinion on the matter.
I couldn't remember the clowns name, but a quick search found one John Wayne Gacey.
In a messed up way, it's kinda fun to see how many people in the image you know the names of.
Who's the bowl cut guy on the right? I recognize everyone but him (sadly)
Also damn, did not know about Confucius
It's the piece of human excrement that killed my friend and nearly all of her 1st grade students at Sandy Hook Elementary.
I remember hearing about it on the news and I was in just... total shock for at least 10 minutes. I just stood there after hearing it on the news. It still spins my brain round how someone could be such an evil fuck.
Who's the guy on the left that looks like Asian Elon?
i have no clue what pol pot looks like but im going to guess pol pot
You got it. According to Google images, I'm not the first to make the resemblance.
To be fair, Mao should be in the center.
For the person that down-voted me, it is estimated that Mao was responsible for several times as many deaths as Hitler. Estimates range from 40 million all the way to 100 million people.
You don't have to be a Nazi to point out that ~100 million people dead because of Mao is worse than ~20 million dead because of Hitler.
Unless you value Chinese lives less than the victims of Hitler, it shouldn't be an issue to see Mao as having been more evil, even though both were very evil.
Most of Mao deaths, terrible though they are, were not intentional like those of his two peers.
To gain power of an entire country like China, Mao had to be very intelligent. Him not being informed of the consequences of his policies is highly unlikely. The consequence of claiming that he was ignorant is that it enables you to absolve him of some of his guilt. You are downplaying how bad he really was. This is not fair. Mao ruled China for 33 years and has caused more destruction in his own country than most rulers (if not all) in recorded history.
I'm not absolving anything. I'm not downplaying anything. I don't care enough to make an argument one way or another. I'm simply saying that motives should count for something when making grandiose claims about who the worst person in all history is.
Woah wait.. Why is Confucius there?
Genuinely want to be informed here.
Confucius is usually depicted with a black beard, that’s Genghis Khan.
Genghis khan
because Confucius isn't as good a person (or ideology) as people seem to think, unless you are the current ruler, then it's amazing
Have you read any of Confucius writings? Rulers actually have higher expectations for them than common folk. If a ruler doesn’t act properly and conduct the proper rituals, then their people can’t be expected either. I’m not sure how familiar you are with Confucian thought, I’m struggling to understand what you are basing that statement on.
“The Master said, "If the people be led by laws, and uniformity sought to be given them by punishments, they will try to avoid the punishment, but have no sense of shame.
"If they be led by virtue, and uniformity sought to be given them by the rules of propriety, they will have the sense of shame, and moreover will become good."
“If they be led by virtue, and uniformity sought to be given them by the rules of propriety, they will have the sense of shame, and moreover will become good.”
I have no real context other than what is here, and maybe Frogfucius, and I'm not great at reading between the lines so bear with me, because that doesn't seem so awful for medieval philosophy. Lead by virtue rather than punishment? Sounds almost enlightened.
I mean with the part about rules and propriety, it sound a bit like the Broken Window Theorem which has been shown to be a cover for racist policing, but it also came out in the 80s.
Anyway, I'm not Staning Confucius
Not medieval, Confucius was writing in 500 BCE. I’m not staning Confucius, but he was far harsher on rulers than he was peasants. Rulers are supposed to act like rulers, if they want their people to follow. There are more restrictions on them - a bad ruler (not just bad as in ineffective or cruel, but sexual deviance or drunkeness) can cause droughts or other disasters.
and the joke is, who sets these traditions and rules? go a bit farther, and you learn the justification of these rules is "there wasn't a natural disaster recently"
like sure there are stringent rules the leader must follow, but whatever the leader decides the rules should be is what even these rules are
Okay, we all need to prepare for the day that he escapes from hell. You know what's going to happen, it's been foretold. We need to get one of those books from Myst
Is that ajit pai? Lol
Who are the two youngsters behind him?
Sandy hook shooter
Columbine shooter
Scum of the earth
Yeah it really makes one wish there really was a hell and not just total oblivion.
Idi Amin didn’t make the team?
To be fair: this Posting has to much Quality und to be a shitpost... But on the other Hand, there is a lot of shit in this pic...
who is kissinger and why are all memes about him
He was the US secretary of state in the 1970s who finally died today after far too long living free. The 3 page rolling stone article is about as quickly as somebody could summarize his more notable war crimes. Admittedly the article is pretty biased, but also fuck hearing the other side of the story about a man responsible for so much death and pain.
Tldr: he extended the Vietnam war for about 5 years because it benefited him personally, he convinced Nixon to bomb Cambodia and laos which were not involved in any combat with us, he was involved in the coups that overthrew the democraticly elected governments of Peru and Argentina, he encouraged the use of nuclear bombs in battle on numerous occasions, and that's just for starts. The rolling stone article claims he is indirecty responsible for about 4 million deaths. They don't list the directly responsible number, but its likely in the one million range.
Also the entire "terrorists in the middle east" thing is on him.
Ehhh that's kind of a stretch. Blaming all the shit in the middle east on one person or country really ignores the century+ of bullshit western powers enacted on that region
There’s much more to this ugly story, all available at your local library. It can’t be said to be the worst thing that Kissinger ever did — but as you remember the extraordinary bill of indictment for him, make sure to leave a little room for it.
Kissinger was deemed a controversial figure in the Arab world for his role in shaping US foreign policy, particularly towards the Middle East. For many, his actions fuelled instability, favoured strategic interests over moral principles and left a legacy of geopolitical manoeuvring at the expense of justice and human rights.
You are right, that it is not on him alone. But he still played a significant role
Oh yeah, he's a massive chunk of the reason that almost everything is as fucked today as it is, I just think trying to pick a singular villain to blame any thing this big on ignores the systemic issues spanning decades that enables this
He committed war crimes and there are still people who look up to him
I don't know how in the fuck people can look up to a war criminal
Society is fucked
I've already had to unfollow this account on Instagram
Wait. Is that Ajit Pai on the right?
I just saw another post about him, and then here he is again. A glimpse into the future.
Yea, wtf
Wishful thinking.
No shit, considering: Ajit Pai Elected To Public Television Board Of Trustees, Nov. 14, 2023.
Do you have to be alive to hold that position?
Would anyone notice if you were not?
I was confused for a sec because I thought he died.
MFer is still walking around with that weird punchable face.
Yeah ... there goes your internet privacy in hell
To be fair, he is dead inside
No Thatcher? Come on, OP
Wait nvm she's behind adolf
Thatcher was responsible for many societal ills, but she did at least provide a public, gender neutral toilet for all to use.
Tbf according to Christians, Dhamer is in heaven. Cause you can just say "sorry Jesus!" And all your murder and cannibalism is forgiven.
Also according to Christians, Dhamer is in heaven and his victims are in hell for being gay, ain't that some shit?
There is way more nuance to and lack of agreement on these topics than is presented here. Do I think God could forgive Jeffrey Dhamer? Absolutely. Do people go to "hell" for being gay? Absolutely not. First, because hell (as in the place of eternal torment) doesn't exist. Second, being gay isnt a sin.
And yes, I know there's an army of other Christians out there who are are foaming at the mouth in disagreement.
Source: am Christian.
I mean it's all made up, we may as well be arguing about valhalla
Gays are welcome in Valhalla, just so long as they fought valiantly to the death like their hetero brethren.
You’re not a real Christian /s
I've had the notion of producing some SDXL images of jesus doing hateful things that Christians do, like holding up a "god hates f*gs" sign or roaring and frothing at a trump rally. Make them see what "Christ through them" looks like. Put it on billboards and shit.
To a sizeable number of "Christians", Jesus is more of an abstract concept than an actual being. Believing he existed is more important than listening to or living out what he had to say. I mean, I've actually quoted passages from the bible to people when they try to rug sweep Trumps many moral bankruptcies or start shitting all over poor people or immigrants. And what do they do? They look down at their feet for a few seconds with a sort of guilty expression on their face. Then, they just kind of shake it off and launch right back into whatever bullshit they were spouting before.
If any of those people ever bothered to crack a bible, they would find a fair chunk of it is spent vehemently railing against the things they are pushing for.
It's ome thing to abstract it and another entirely to be staring at a billboard where your god is shown to be as vile and hate-fuelled as you are. Make them get angry about it, and point out at every enfuriated comment that they're only proving the point.
Good idea. It is odd how the old and New Testament seem to be at odds with each other in so many ways yet “Christians” who supposedly follow Christ seem to think “god” or the Old Testament biblical version of him, outweighs christs teachings of god, whenever they feel like being justified in their hatred. They’re closer to Muslim than Christian in their closeness of actions to teachings.
Huh??
Ajit Pai isn't dead...?
He’s just visiting for public policy ideas
He's dead to me
Who’s the guy that looks like Elon Musk in lipstick, and who’s the guy above Epstein?
I'm not sure about the woman, but that guy is Pol Pot.
What's the odds that musk's mum banged pol pot? I'd go somewhat high considering how much of a Disney villain she looks like.
Well, Pol Pot chose a daring shade.
Is he Musk's relative?
Only in the sense that every human is related to every other one if you go back far enough.
He's a guy, not a woman.
Yeah didn't know it was a trans man until I read the comments. Appologies.
Person above Epstein
Pol Pot and probably OP’s ex.
Girl = I think that trans mass shooter a wee while back. Deadname Audrey something iirc. Don’t remember the post trans name regrettably.
His name was Aiden, apparently. A monster for sure, but I’ve edited my initial comment to reflect their gender.
The guy is Pol Pot
Wasn't the woman a school shooter?
That's a guy. Also, it's kinda scary to think how many school shooters actually could be put into the picture.
Where's Rush Limbaugh?
And reagan
Are you blind?
Apparently I am.
Where is mother Theresa?
She's taking the photo
The cheeky cunt! I hope she enjoys suffering. I've heard it's beautiful.
I don't understand how Henry Kissinger was left to live peaceably and undisturbed his entire life when he was committing such atrocities for decades. Why were the masses not tar-and-feathering him and harassing him with a bounty on his head, trained assassins not pursuing him all these decades?
Because those are the types actions of people who use hate as a tool (same as Kissinger did). You can ask the same about Trump and why he hasn't been assassinated yet (I know, apples and oranges). But what I'm trying to say is that people who are against such attrocities usually don't prefer violence as a means to any end. Just my opinion on the matter.
I couldn't remember the clowns name, but a quick search found one John Wayne Gacey.
In a messed up way, it's kinda fun to see how many people in the image you know the names of.
Who's the bowl cut guy on the right? I recognize everyone but him (sadly)
Also damn, did not know about Confucius
It's the piece of human excrement that killed my friend and nearly all of her 1st grade students at Sandy Hook Elementary.
I remember hearing about it on the news and I was in just... total shock for at least 10 minutes. I just stood there after hearing it on the news. It still spins my brain round how someone could be such an evil fuck.
Who's the guy on the left that looks like Asian Elon?
i have no clue what pol pot looks like but im going to guess pol pot
You got it. According to Google images, I'm not the first to make the resemblance.
To be fair, Mao should be in the center.
For the person that down-voted me, it is estimated that Mao was responsible for several times as many deaths as Hitler. Estimates range from 40 million all the way to 100 million people.
You don't have to be a Nazi to point out that ~100 million people dead because of Mao is worse than ~20 million dead because of Hitler.
Unless you value Chinese lives less than the victims of Hitler, it shouldn't be an issue to see Mao as having been more evil, even though both were very evil.
Most of Mao deaths, terrible though they are, were not intentional like those of his two peers.
To gain power of an entire country like China, Mao had to be very intelligent. Him not being informed of the consequences of his policies is highly unlikely. The consequence of claiming that he was ignorant is that it enables you to absolve him of some of his guilt. You are downplaying how bad he really was. This is not fair. Mao ruled China for 33 years and has caused more destruction in his own country than most rulers (if not all) in recorded history.
I'm not absolving anything. I'm not downplaying anything. I don't care enough to make an argument one way or another. I'm simply saying that motives should count for something when making grandiose claims about who the worst person in all history is.
Woah wait.. Why is Confucius there?
Genuinely want to be informed here.
Confucius is usually depicted with a black beard, that’s Genghis Khan.
Genghis khan
because Confucius isn't as good a person (or ideology) as people seem to think, unless you are the current ruler, then it's amazing
Have you read any of Confucius writings? Rulers actually have higher expectations for them than common folk. If a ruler doesn’t act properly and conduct the proper rituals, then their people can’t be expected either. I’m not sure how familiar you are with Confucian thought, I’m struggling to understand what you are basing that statement on.
“The Master said, "If the people be led by laws, and uniformity sought to be given them by punishments, they will try to avoid the punishment, but have no sense of shame.
"If they be led by virtue, and uniformity sought to be given them by the rules of propriety, they will have the sense of shame, and moreover will become good."
I have no real context other than what is here, and maybe Frogfucius, and I'm not great at reading between the lines so bear with me, because that doesn't seem so awful for medieval philosophy. Lead by virtue rather than punishment? Sounds almost enlightened.
I mean with the part about rules and propriety, it sound a bit like the Broken Window Theorem which has been shown to be a cover for racist policing, but it also came out in the 80s.
Anyway, I'm not Staning Confucius
Not medieval, Confucius was writing in 500 BCE. I’m not staning Confucius, but he was far harsher on rulers than he was peasants. Rulers are supposed to act like rulers, if they want their people to follow. There are more restrictions on them - a bad ruler (not just bad as in ineffective or cruel, but sexual deviance or drunkeness) can cause droughts or other disasters.
and the joke is, who sets these traditions and rules? go a bit farther, and you learn the justification of these rules is "there wasn't a natural disaster recently"
like sure there are stringent rules the leader must follow, but whatever the leader decides the rules should be is what even these rules are
Okay, we all need to prepare for the day that he escapes from hell. You know what's going to happen, it's been foretold. We need to get one of those books from Myst
Is that ajit pai? Lol
Who are the two youngsters behind him?
Sandy hook shooter Columbine shooter
Scum of the earth
Yeah it really makes one wish there really was a hell and not just total oblivion.
Idi Amin didn’t make the team?
To be fair: this Posting has to much Quality und to be a shitpost... But on the other Hand, there is a lot of shit in this pic...
who is kissinger and why are all memes about him
He was the US secretary of state in the 1970s who finally died today after far too long living free. The 3 page rolling stone article is about as quickly as somebody could summarize his more notable war crimes. Admittedly the article is pretty biased, but also fuck hearing the other side of the story about a man responsible for so much death and pain.
Tldr: he extended the Vietnam war for about 5 years because it benefited him personally, he convinced Nixon to bomb Cambodia and laos which were not involved in any combat with us, he was involved in the coups that overthrew the democraticly elected governments of Peru and Argentina, he encouraged the use of nuclear bombs in battle on numerous occasions, and that's just for starts. The rolling stone article claims he is indirecty responsible for about 4 million deaths. They don't list the directly responsible number, but its likely in the one million range.
Also the entire "terrorists in the middle east" thing is on him.
Ehhh that's kind of a stretch. Blaming all the shit in the middle east on one person or country really ignores the century+ of bullshit western powers enacted on that region
https://theintercept.com/2023/11/30/henry-kissinger-israel-egypt-soviet-union/
https://www.newarab.com/news/why-was-henry-kissinger-hated-arab-world
You are right, that it is not on him alone. But he still played a significant role
Oh yeah, he's a massive chunk of the reason that almost everything is as fucked today as it is, I just think trying to pick a singular villain to blame any thing this big on ignores the systemic issues spanning decades that enables this
He committed war crimes and there are still people who look up to him
I don't know how in the fuck people can look up to a war criminal
Society is fucked
I've already had to unfollow this account on Instagram
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/henry-kissinger-war-criminal-dead-1234804748/
It's real fucking reddit brain to group all of these people together as equally bad.
Did anyone say they were equal?
I would say killing net neutrality was easily as bad as what pol pot did /s
I don't think they're all equally bad. They all just happen to at least have met the minimum requirements to rot in hell.