Fuck the balloon police

Stamets@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 853 points –
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For the record, yes you need a pilot’s license to fly a hot air balloon.

And yes the “balloon police” (aka the FAA in the United States) or their equivalent governing body in other countries will stop you, and fine you.

FAA if you're lucky. If youre unlucky, the baloon police are an F-16 with a sidewinder

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I don't know if they can actually stop you. Especially the first time. But they can definitely find you and fine you. A lot. Like more than tree fiddy.

Yes. They wont kill you and take down your balloon. But you have to come back to land at some point. Then bam! You're arrested...

They can definitely encourage you to land.

You DON'T need a license for some types of flight though. Anything under 254 pounds. Ultralights and paragliders. (However that doesn't mean there's no rules)

How do they stop you mid flight though

With helicopter mounted machine guns.

1.). Yes you do it’s called a pilots license.

2.). It’s called the FAA and they will find you quick

Violate some air spaces and the military will be coming for you faster than the FAA will.

Yeah, this. FAA does give a fuck. A lot of people fly drones extremely illegally but they're too small for the FAA to notice or bother with, and most of them can't get to real dangerous heights anyway. But try flying near an airport and you'll find out real quick.

I still haven't figured out if people just aren't aware that it's illegal or if they're just too brazen. I think it's the former but not really sure.

from me all the FPV pilots I know don't have the license, because it's very difficult to do because they are almost all the same things that a real airplane pilot needs to know,

Also I have seen FPV 6S drones at maximum speed even in densely populated areas always exceeding the legal limit of 120m if they had a license

First of all, the "licensing" is kinda tough, but I wouldn't call it "very difficult". You could learn it all in a few days.

Secondly, you don't need the "license" unless you're flying commercially. Flying as a hobby has like a page of material to read and like a 5 question test with a few rules to follow, so that's far from an excuse.

Thirdly, FPV has probably the hardest rules because you literally can't see the sky so they require you have someone with you to call stuff to you... Which no one fucking does, so FPV is by far the worst offenders.

Also I have seen FPV 6S drones at maximum speed even in densely populated areas always exceeding the legal limit of 120m if they had a license

This type of shit is why the FAA is forcing regulations across the board, including towards manufacturers, to have tracking on who's flying what and from where, which is going to start butchering the hobbyist communities. This is fucking brain dead and dangerous and people that do this shit are asking for accidents and the reason why we can't have nice things.

I'm not in the US, I don't know how FAA operates. In my socially ridiculous country it's called ENAC and the difficulty is similar to that of a car license in terms of the level of knowledge required, and it's an infinite bureaucratic stress like any non-mainstream license, only those who do it for work do it.

The FAA are an American organisation that only has jurisdiction in the USA, so no they won't unless you do it in the USA.

Though that last paragraph does apply in many places outside the US. Sometimes it's even the US military responding outside of the US (I mean I assume they protect the airspace around their bases, but I guess I'm not really sure what kind of jurisdiction they'd have just because they have a military base).

They will shoot you down with planes if you fly into the airspace of the state. Generally you can get away with it short term as long as you live a reasonable distance away from an airport, military installation, or weather radar.

Otherwise, sort out your estate before fucking around and finding out with the air authorities.

I crewed for a hot air balloon place in high school. The wind once blew two balloons right over the airport runways. ATC was not happy, but those things go where the wind takes them.

Of course, those were licensed pilots.

Most countries require a hot air balloon pilot license. Don't fuck with the FAA. They will ruin your life.

and if the FAA don't get you, and you are using radios, the FCC might get you. And if the FCC get you, the FAA get you.

Don't fuck with the FAA. It's not a fair fight. And we will lose more and more fun things to do as commercial drones take over.

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  1. I don't need a license to fly this balloon. I do what I want.
  2. Stupid balloon police chasing my balloon in their stupid police cars.
  3. Check out this move. I fly out over the sea. Balloon police can't follow me. I am never seen again

But we stole a balloon!

Yeah, on national free balloon day.

A single monkey with a dart: "I'm aboutta end this man's whole career"

My country town is really into ballooning, so there's always a bunch of balloons flying around here and there, so no one would even notice an extra one floating around, unless you were a dick and flying low.

I went in a hot air balloon once. Basically, once you’re up in the air, the wind takes you….where ever. It’s only controllable on one axis at that point. And the flame is fucking hot.

Yeah, I always wondered how the fuck you don't crash into a building, forest or get swept out to sea. I guess you just pick really still wind days.

From what I've read the wind can point different directions at different altitudes, so you can navigate a little bit by changing your altitude, depending on the wind conditions.

Used to crew for a hot air balloon company, and that's correct. Also, we never flew when the wind was over 10 knots, both at ground and altitude.

You also don't want the wind to be too still, because that's just an elevator ride and you don't get to see anything. Makes it easy on the crew, though.

I was told by someone who worked at a company that does balloon flights that winds are somewhat predictable, so they launch balloons in a way that gives them a decent margin of error to account for fluctuations in the wind.

If it turns out that you have to land in the middle of the highway or some dangerous location like that, there is enough time to anticipate that and get in touch with the authorities to have that area blocked off.

I think the main way is by not launching upwind of buildings, forests, or the ocean. And don't launch when a weather system is coming in that would change wind patterns. Wind is usually fairly predictable.

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  1. You don't need a license to fly a hot air ballon.

  2. Even if I do, who's going to stop me? Balloon cops?

[A background image of a yellow hot air ballon]

Didnt work out so good for that Chinese baloon though...

Just remember the bottle of wine for whoever owns the land you fall onto

I remember this time when a hot air Balloon operator, in the area, crashed the balloon into some power lines and 16 people died. Some people had to be identified by dental records. While he was a registered pilot, his company wasn't registered with the state.

Don't fuck with Hot Air Ballons people.