You start assembling an assortment of sticks, leaves and a hollow bird bone, patching holes with moss that has already started to turn slightly yellow which you picked from the side of a tree. Somehow, your thoughts veer off and you begin to wonder if you could find a larger bone to turn into a flute.
When you look down again at your creation, you start to curse under your breath - you got distracted and manufactured a copy of Windows ME.
Seems about right, yeah
Well, according to Dr. Stone, you probably can
Everyone in this thread is missing that this is just a copy of the OS. OP said nothing about having a computer, or internet, or electricity.
I'll take Windows 7 because it was still issued on DVD which would be useful as a signal mirror for getting rescued.
Errrmmm. So is 11. I have tons. Never take them out if the packaging but I still has them.
Oh, really? I thought they were distributing on USB drives these days. Are they OEM copies?
They may be OEM. I don't really recall. I just buy the cheapest Pros from my local computer shop.
I believe you can DvD, USB, or none. But don't quote me on that.
def win 7
And that’s only because XP wasn’t a given option.
Let's not kid ourselves. Xp is extremely dated and 7 was the better OS
Better in terms of features, absolutely. XP SP3 was a more stable OS. Only downside is lack of security updates, which wouldn’t matter much in the woods.
What if you’re attacked by a bear ? You’d be wishing you had gotten those security updates wouldn’t you
Same applies to Vista despite being much closet to Windows 7 than XP.
But I bet it's this way only because nobody gave a shit about Vista. I was the only person who gave a shit about it.
Vista was hot garbage. That shit took ~1.5 GB of RAM to boot. In 2007. Total trash. Windows 7 was what Vista should have been. All of the features with less overhead.
Computers did take the take to adapt to the new software requirements, not to mention the two service packs that were released. By the time that happened, Vista became really good, but nobody cared because Windows 7 was RIGHT around the corner.
And yeah, if Vista ran poorly on that Pentium 4 thing, then I would suspect 7 would run poorly on it as well. Hell, I tried a virtual machine that barely met the requirements for Windows 7, installed Vista on it, and as expected, it ran very poorly. I tried Windows 7 on it. Same thing, it ran very poorly.
XP had the exact same criticisms when it came out in 2001. Again, computers had time to adapt, and as a result, people started loving XP, and I mean they started LOVING it, A LOT.
I’m one of those people. I ran XP SP3 straight through the rise and fall of Vista, and into the first few years of Win 7. I did the same thing with Win 98 and skipped ME/2000. The driver issues were insane with those releases. Microsoft seemed to have an “every other” rule with OS release quality.
Driver issues were mostly the fault of the manufacturers, not Microsoft. But even then, it would be a pretty terrible experience regardless.
That’s true, although I recall it being a problem with their development toolkit. The drivers were released, but didn’t work as expected.
Oh well.
At least they fixed it. But once they fixed it, nobody cared anymore.
They lasted one year each before XP was released. Same with Vista’s two year run. Didn’t even have a chance to standardize before being replaced.
No question.
I wouldn't care either way because I doubt it's connected to the internet out in the middle of the woods which is what would really limit what I could and would use a computer for in that situation.
Then again, if it uses Windows 11 it might get hotter and be able to keep me from freezing to death... 🤔
Some low hanging fruit here (lol Apples) but Win 11 for surely my location and situation will be known afar.
Bonus edit: To the Wincopter! A subscriber is away from employ!
I always keep a short length of single mode fiber optic cable with me when I'm hiking. If I get lost, I just bury it, and it less than an hour some idiot will show up in a backhoe and accidentally cut it in half.
Ya got me. Literally peed myself at this
It's not my creation. I nearly peed myself the first time too. Glad you enjoyed it.
Roommate in college got ME the night it released. Came back installed by around 1am. By 2am it was uninstalled and never touched again.
You, sir, are a very sick person. Mad props to ya.
Can I choose the bear?
I choose the bear too
I'm sorry everyone... but I'll choose Windows 11... I just can't leave without an AI assistant in my computer. I mean, yeah, I can always just open ChatGPT on a browser... but that just... isn't the same. Also that Recall thing is great, I love these automatic screenshots that are totally not sent to Microsoft. This thing is extremely convenient, because pressing the Print Screen key is too hard for me. Lastly, I paid for the whole computer, I want my OS to use all the resources it can. Fuck you, Linux and Windows 7 evangelists! Your OS is clearly not superior.
(guess i made it clear that i haven't used windows in a while lol)
Neither. I go into the woods to unplug.
I go there to get bitten by mosquitos.
Mom: We have mosquitoes at home.
Win 7, because I can use it as bargain to trade with locals who help me to get out of the forest and back to civilisation. No one would be interested in Win 11 so that choice is obvious.
Win 11 because wsl. At least I have some of Linux so I can use a computer.
Windows 11. Because Windows 7 ate Windows 9.
I worked for msft. I evangelized Windows, even through 8, I found the silver lining.
11 can die in a fire.
I don't really get all the windows 11 hate. I have had 0 problems with it
Not everyone is ok with os not being yours and sending everything you do to someone else so they can better advertise to you.
Let's not act like Microsoft hasn't patched that into older Windows versions too.
Anything older than Windows 10 is a massive security risk. And Windows 11 is just Windows 10 with a slightly worse UI and a handful of new features on top.
If you like it and it works for you, then great. I’m in the same boat.
"Go with what works best for you"
--basically how I've lived for the last 10 years or so
At least it isn't Windows 10.
Don't get me started on windows 9
Back on Reddit it seemed like a standard pattern that every once in a while some particular subject would come up that was popular to dislike, and a generalized negative sentiment would wash gently across the zeitgeist for a while before eventually receding. My theory is that being part of a mob is fun, it lets you unleash righteous anger and feel validation along with the rush of endorphins, so it's a self-perpetuating pattern.
Here on the Fediverse it feels more like a steady lashing storm of waves. Right now Windows 11 is hated. In most threads it's impossible to say something that is insufficiently negative about it without getting tons of downvotes.
Oh well. If Karma was meaningless on Reddit, it's doubly meaningless here. So I'll just keep on saying my thing.
What the hell do I need Windows for if I'm stuck in the woods??
I don't know about you, but my Outlook on survival while being an Explorer would definitely rise. I'd say I would Excell at the task at hand if I'd be pushed to the Edge like that, mark my Word!
This made me chuckle!
11, so that when I outrun the bear, it'll be 11 who dies, while 7 is waiting for me at home
Def 7, it was the first OS used at work that turned invisible.. It didn't need constant defragging, optimizing or registry hacks like 98, 2000 or XP used to. It was a workhorse.
That said, I haven't used 11 yet. My company just announced that this year all PCs will stay on 10 for the foreseeable future.
No one seems to be considering that only Windows 11 lets you run Linux as a subsystem.
Windows 10 was the one that introduced this feature though.
But I could download virtualbox on 7 then grab an iso...
I am already in the woods on Windows 7
im in the woods, help me
Win7 4 lyfe, yo
Next question, pls
Windows 7. And I would hope for the mighty superhero penguin Linux to save me.
Can I side load the Linux distribution of choice?
Sure, if you can figure out how to partion your drive properly.
11 easily. Not everyone hates. It personally I think it's worth it for AutoHDR alone. And the simplified start menu makes a lot of sense once you put the start button back where it goes and block ads in the menu.
Windows, the only OS you must hit the start button in order to halt it
Since the woods has not internet, 11. No ads, no tracking. Do need the old context menus and a few things before I head out though.
Sorry, but you can't even log in without Internet.
Really? LOL
I'm on Windows for work but I login to a Linux box to do any work within the first five minutes
You'd be screwed with 11, please connect me to the internet to login to your account. So I'll take 7.
Not sure it matters. I'll be drawing a girlfriend in MS Paint, and it hasn't changed much.
I have a surprise for you: there were big updates to Paint in Windows 11. Most notably AI image generation features. So that may affect your girlfriend-drawing endeavours.
Me: Tries to draw ScarJo.
AI MS Paint: Here's that sexy picture of Clippy you wanted!
Linux
Depends, assuming a fresh install, can you even create account on win11 without internet access? Last i checked, it wont let you start with local account and requires MS account.
Apparently you can, during setup there is a window of 11 milliseconds during which you need to press a combination of 11 keys so you're allowed to create a local account. The procedure only costs 11€ per try too
Yes, Windows 11 N or using a Rufus modified version.
Mine doesn't have a Microsoft account.
Windows 7 got Solitaire so probably that
Grew up on windows 7. It was all I needed and was perfect. I don't need anything else. I didn't even want 10 but 10 is...ok I guess. I def don't want 11 though.
Windows 7, maybe I could even download iTunes 10 and get my old music library back
Duh, I'd rather be stuck with Vista.
But since it's not even an option, I would choose Windows 7 by default. Although 8.1 wasn't really THAT bad, I just think it will be treated exactly the same as 7 in terms of software support, similarly to how programs dropped support for Vista at the same time they did for XP.
whichever of the two is more like a bear
Windows 7 all day long or 98 perfection
Microsoft peaked in '98
Too many blue screens, my favorite was XP.
Hm, nobody addressed the fact that Windows 7 is outdated and has known vulnerabilities. The idea of this question was to see whether people would rather be spied on by Microsoft or by unknown strangers.
Spied on in the woods without an internet connection?
I pressed X to doubt so hard that my phone screen cracked.
7 because I don't want to be stuck in the woods with someone elses computer. Also 7 has the good version of paint.
I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with a computer in the woods but I guess Windows 7 if I have to pick between those.
Windows 2000 all the way.
The stability of the NT combined with that classic Windows look and feel. God I wish this did get released to consumers instead of Windows Me.
But my virtualisation software treats basically every Windows version before Vista really poorly, even with the necessary drivers installed. I guess I'll just get a real computer and install Windows 2000 on that instead.
I would prefer a REAL girlfriend to a square headed girlfriend. Stuck. In the woods.
Both would be a bear…
I dunno, if I'd built a shelter, 1 or 2 windows would be enough I think.
Can I fashion a simple linux distro from various sticks and pebbles I find on the forest floor?
You can, you’ll just have to come pile it up
https://i.ibb.co/pJ9txcv/IMG-5717.gif
The syntax is 
Oops, my large hands posting on my phone are to blame for the error.
golf clap
relevant xkcd
Roll a D20 for me please.
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You start assembling an assortment of sticks, leaves and a hollow bird bone, patching holes with moss that has already started to turn slightly yellow which you picked from the side of a tree. Somehow, your thoughts veer off and you begin to wonder if you could find a larger bone to turn into a flute.
When you look down again at your creation, you start to curse under your breath - you got distracted and manufactured a copy of Windows ME.
Seems about right, yeah
Well, according to Dr. Stone, you probably can
Everyone in this thread is missing that this is just a copy of the OS. OP said nothing about having a computer, or internet, or electricity.
I'll take Windows 7 because it was still issued on DVD which would be useful as a signal mirror for getting rescued.
Errrmmm. So is 11. I have tons. Never take them out if the packaging but I still has them.
Oh, really? I thought they were distributing on USB drives these days. Are they OEM copies?
They may be OEM. I don't really recall. I just buy the cheapest Pros from my local computer shop.
I believe you can DvD, USB, or none. But don't quote me on that.
def win 7
And that’s only because XP wasn’t a given option.
Let's not kid ourselves. Xp is extremely dated and 7 was the better OS
Better in terms of features, absolutely. XP SP3 was a more stable OS. Only downside is lack of security updates, which wouldn’t matter much in the woods.
What if you’re attacked by a bear ? You’d be wishing you had gotten those security updates wouldn’t you
Same applies to Vista despite being much closet to Windows 7 than XP.
But I bet it's this way only because nobody gave a shit about Vista. I was the only person who gave a shit about it.
Vista was hot garbage. That shit took ~1.5 GB of RAM to boot. In 2007. Total trash. Windows 7 was what Vista should have been. All of the features with less overhead.
Computers did take the take to adapt to the new software requirements, not to mention the two service packs that were released. By the time that happened, Vista became really good, but nobody cared because Windows 7 was RIGHT around the corner.
And yeah, if Vista ran poorly on that Pentium 4 thing, then I would suspect 7 would run poorly on it as well. Hell, I tried a virtual machine that barely met the requirements for Windows 7, installed Vista on it, and as expected, it ran very poorly. I tried Windows 7 on it. Same thing, it ran very poorly.
XP had the exact same criticisms when it came out in 2001. Again, computers had time to adapt, and as a result, people started loving XP, and I mean they started LOVING it, A LOT.
I’m one of those people. I ran XP SP3 straight through the rise and fall of Vista, and into the first few years of Win 7. I did the same thing with Win 98 and skipped ME/2000. The driver issues were insane with those releases. Microsoft seemed to have an “every other” rule with OS release quality.
Driver issues were mostly the fault of the manufacturers, not Microsoft. But even then, it would be a pretty terrible experience regardless.
That’s true, although I recall it being a problem with their development toolkit. The drivers were released, but didn’t work as expected.
Oh well.
At least they fixed it. But once they fixed it, nobody cared anymore.
They lasted one year each before XP was released. Same with Vista’s two year run. Didn’t even have a chance to standardize before being replaced.
No question.
I wouldn't care either way because I doubt it's connected to the internet out in the middle of the woods which is what would really limit what I could and would use a computer for in that situation.
Then again, if it uses Windows 11 it might get hotter and be able to keep me from freezing to death... 🤔
Some low hanging fruit here (lol Apples) but Win 11 for surely my location and situation will be known afar.
Bonus edit: To the Wincopter! A subscriber is away from employ!
I always keep a short length of single mode fiber optic cable with me when I'm hiking. If I get lost, I just bury it, and it less than an hour some idiot will show up in a backhoe and accidentally cut it in half.
Ya got me. Literally peed myself at this
It's not my creation. I nearly peed myself the first time too. Glad you enjoyed it.
Windows Me. I play on hard.
Microsoft Bob.
Come at me, bro.
Bob was ahead of its time.
You sick bastard
Hahahaha
Oof.
Roommate in college got ME the night it released. Came back installed by around 1am. By 2am it was uninstalled and never touched again.
You, sir, are a very sick person. Mad props to ya.
Can I choose the bear?
I choose the bear too
I'm sorry everyone... but I'll choose Windows 11... I just can't leave without an AI assistant in my computer. I mean, yeah, I can always just open ChatGPT on a browser... but that just... isn't the same. Also that Recall thing is great, I love these automatic screenshots that are totally not sent to Microsoft. This thing is extremely convenient, because pressing the Print Screen key is too hard for me. Lastly, I paid for the whole computer, I want my OS to use all the resources it can. Fuck you, Linux and Windows 7 evangelists! Your OS is clearly not superior.
(guess i made it clear that i haven't used windows in a while lol)
Neither. I go into the woods to unplug.
I go there to get bitten by mosquitos.
Mom: We have mosquitoes at home.
Win 7, because I can use it as bargain to trade with locals who help me to get out of the forest and back to civilisation. No one would be interested in Win 11 so that choice is obvious.
Win 11 because wsl. At least I have some of Linux so I can use a computer.
Windows 11. Because Windows 7 ate Windows 9.
I worked for msft. I evangelized Windows, even through 8, I found the silver lining. 11 can die in a fire.
I don't really get all the windows 11 hate. I have had 0 problems with it
Not everyone is ok with os not being yours and sending everything you do to someone else so they can better advertise to you.
Let's not act like Microsoft hasn't patched that into older Windows versions too.
Anything older than Windows 10 is a massive security risk. And Windows 11 is just Windows 10 with a slightly worse UI and a handful of new features on top.
If you like it and it works for you, then great. I’m in the same boat.
"Go with what works best for you"
--basically how I've lived for the last 10 years or so
At least it isn't Windows 10.
Don't get me started on windows 9
Back on Reddit it seemed like a standard pattern that every once in a while some particular subject would come up that was popular to dislike, and a generalized negative sentiment would wash gently across the zeitgeist for a while before eventually receding. My theory is that being part of a mob is fun, it lets you unleash righteous anger and feel validation along with the rush of endorphins, so it's a self-perpetuating pattern.
Here on the Fediverse it feels more like a steady lashing storm of waves. Right now Windows 11 is hated. In most threads it's impossible to say something that is insufficiently negative about it without getting tons of downvotes.
Oh well. If Karma was meaningless on Reddit, it's doubly meaningless here. So I'll just keep on saying my thing.
What the hell do I need Windows for if I'm stuck in the woods??
I don't know about you, but my Outlook on survival while being an Explorer would definitely rise. I'd say I would Excell at the task at hand if I'd be pushed to the Edge like that, mark my Word!
This made me chuckle!
11, so that when I outrun the bear, it'll be 11 who dies, while 7 is waiting for me at home
Def 7, it was the first OS used at work that turned invisible.. It didn't need constant defragging, optimizing or registry hacks like 98, 2000 or XP used to. It was a workhorse.
That said, I haven't used 11 yet. My company just announced that this year all PCs will stay on 10 for the foreseeable future.
No one seems to be considering that only Windows 11 lets you run Linux as a subsystem.
Windows 10 was the one that introduced this feature though.
But I could download virtualbox on 7 then grab an iso...
I am already in the woods on Windows 7
im in the woods, help me
Win7 4 lyfe, yo
Next question, pls
Windows 7. And I would hope for the mighty superhero penguin Linux to save me.
Can I side load the Linux distribution of choice?
Sure, if you can figure out how to partion your drive properly.
11 easily. Not everyone hates. It personally I think it's worth it for AutoHDR alone. And the simplified start menu makes a lot of sense once you put the start button back where it goes and block ads in the menu.
Windows, the only OS you must hit the start button in order to halt it
Since the woods has not internet, 11. No ads, no tracking. Do need the old context menus and a few things before I head out though.
Sorry, but you can't even log in without Internet.
Really? LOL
I'm on Windows for work but I login to a Linux box to do any work within the first five minutes
You'd be screwed with 11, please connect me to the internet to login to your account. So I'll take 7.
Not sure it matters. I'll be drawing a girlfriend in MS Paint, and it hasn't changed much.
I have a surprise for you: there were big updates to Paint in Windows 11. Most notably AI image generation features. So that may affect your girlfriend-drawing endeavours.
Me: Tries to draw ScarJo.
AI MS Paint: Here's that sexy picture of Clippy you wanted!
Linux
Depends, assuming a fresh install, can you even create account on win11 without internet access? Last i checked, it wont let you start with local account and requires MS account.
Apparently you can, during setup there is a window of 11 milliseconds during which you need to press a combination of 11 keys so you're allowed to create a local account. The procedure only costs 11€ per try too
Yes, Windows 11 N or using a Rufus modified version.
Mine doesn't have a Microsoft account.
Windows 7 got Solitaire so probably that
Grew up on windows 7. It was all I needed and was perfect. I don't need anything else. I didn't even want 10 but 10 is...ok I guess. I def don't want 11 though.
Windows 7, maybe I could even download iTunes 10 and get my old music library back
Duh, I'd rather be stuck with Vista.
But since it's not even an option, I would choose Windows 7 by default. Although 8.1 wasn't really THAT bad, I just think it will be treated exactly the same as 7 in terms of software support, similarly to how programs dropped support for Vista at the same time they did for XP.
whichever of the two is more like a bear
Windows 7 all day long or 98 perfection
Microsoft peaked in '98
Too many blue screens, my favorite was XP.
Hm, nobody addressed the fact that Windows 7 is outdated and has known vulnerabilities. The idea of this question was to see whether people would rather be spied on by Microsoft or by unknown strangers.
Spied on in the woods without an internet connection?
I pressed X to doubt so hard that my phone screen cracked.
7 because I don't want to be stuck in the woods with someone elses computer. Also 7 has the good version of paint.
I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with a computer in the woods but I guess Windows 7 if I have to pick between those.
Windows 2000 all the way.
The stability of the NT combined with that classic Windows look and feel. God I wish this did get released to consumers instead of Windows Me.
But my virtualisation software treats basically every Windows version before Vista really poorly, even with the necessary drivers installed. I guess I'll just get a real computer and install Windows 2000 on that instead.
I would prefer a REAL girlfriend to a square headed girlfriend. Stuck. In the woods.
Both would be a bear…
I dunno, if I'd built a shelter, 1 or 2 windows would be enough I think.
7
7 fo sho