Schumer is goading Trump into keeping him. He knows Trump is too prideful to let a Democrat be right about something.
This is actually a brilliant strategy then. It's a lose-lose.
Plus any legal cases of you can't change your nominee from Biden, weaken a lot if Dump switches his VP. Of course any case against not letting them switch out Biden is already dead in the water if heard by a rational non corrupt court.. So nevermind actually
They'd argue that the people don't directly choose the VP just the presidential nominee. In fact Vance wasn't even on the ticket during the primaries.
Good point
I love how they’re fucking with him. It’s going to cause him to do more silly shit.
Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can't complete a coherent sentence is scared. He's looking really bad, the dementia is really getting to him. He picked a VP that he forgot was openly talking shit about him and loves fucking couches. He needs to just drop out, it's embarrassing.
I'm with you except for the fucking couches part. It was a joke someone on Twitter said that had no basis in reality (AP fact checked), and repeating it, knowing its not true, is the behavior of a bully.
Call him a fascist because that's what he is, not some made up insult with no basis in reality.
I'm actually fine with bullying fascists though. It's not like theyre gonna take your civility as an example to follow, and if this bullying also messes up their plans then even better.
Bullying fascists is already being civil tbh, its still far nicer than what they deserve
Thus our solution for the Paradox of Tolerance
Then harass him for things he's actually done! There are plenty of them. You weaken your argument against him by ignoring the valid criticisms and making up ridiculous ones.
"Don't they have any real criticism?!"
Yes, we do! We have lots! Let's use it.
I get what you're saying but I've had quite enough of the high road. You realize as much as i that it doesn't work. Not everything has to be a goldarn calculation. I can destroy their argument and then their ego. With any tool i care to use. If somehow a schoolyard rumor is the fuckin trick to crack their will to ruin my democracy ill use it, watch their lil faces twist, and ill sleep super sound at night.
So while I am amused by the whole gag, I would say it's less about the "high" road and more about the fact that the "low" road may not work. Fox News was low-roading all over Obama, making up crap and trying to make a deal out of nothing. It never really impacted Obama's popularity, as anyone vaguely on the fence saw it and said "ok, this is stupid, if that's all Fox News can come up with, then I guess there's nothing to find".
It really tickles my pickle that Fox might break the record for largest settlement, right after they broke the record for largest settlement
I've yet to see him deny being a couch fucker and the AP retracted their correction when someone pointed out that they can't prove he never fucked a couch. If this bullying causes him to leave the campaign, then it's working as intended. Along with being a couch fucker, JD Vance is, like all Republicans, a spineless weasel obsessed with acquiring power any way he can.
Is calling Vance a couch fucker any worse than Republicans alleging that Harris slept her way to the top?
Is calling Vance a couch fucker any worse than Republicans alleging that Harris slept her way to the top?
No, it's the same thing. Accusing people of things you know they didn't do is the sign of an asshole. We should be better than that.
Yeah cos "When they go low, we go high!" worked so well in 2016!
they go low, we go high!” worked so well
We try to win against bad people and still be better than them when we're done.
MFW trying to keep our values is somehow bad.
We should be better than that? We keep doing that. We keep taking it on the chin and taking the high road. The high road got us Dementia Don. I'm fine with throwing some of their shit right back at them. Does it make me an asshole? Honestly, I don't care. I'm over the republikkklowns, and I'm ready for our country to progress again. Fuck that couch fucker and the elephant he rode in on. Fuck the Russians that are out spewing bullshit propaganda along with the assets they have that have managed to get elected. While I'm at it, FUCK anyone voting for them. You're a piece of shit if you do, there is no argument, no defense.
Here's the thing, though: I don't know he didn't, at some point in his life, stroke himself off using a particularly soft and giving piece of furniture. Teenage boys are weird and horny. Until he addresses the issue himself, we can't say he isn't a couch fucker.
Why should we be better than that? How does that win elections?
still the behavior of a bully. Might work in the short term but in the long term everyone hates the bully regardless if it the ends seem to justify the means.
Bullying fascists is morally correct.
Many fine people say he fucks couches. Many fine people.
The AP deleted their fact check, and the whole story stated because of a passage in the first printing of his book. He's a couchfucker.
What was the passage?
They deleted their fact check because they can't prove he never fucked a couch. You can't prove a negative. However the passage in his book does not exist. It was made up by someone as a joke.
Go ahead and troll them. It’s a lot worse than what they plan on doing to us.
I missed it--what was up with couches?
Some random Twitter user made a false claim that Vance admitted to fucking his couch in his book. There was no such admission anywhere.
Hasn't admitted to it... but what's more important is he has made no effort to deny the accusations. JD has been suspiciously quiet on this subject.
Oh I DID see a reference to that but didn't understand it. Thanks for explaining.
I see nothing wrong with bullying a fascist. I'd do much worse if I could.
He's a fascist wealking who if he isnt able to handle such things, well fuck him. I want him to use buckshot mouthwash and if that is achieved through bullying then so fucken be it.
Thank you. I have been criticized for saying the same.
Because you're supposed to bully fascists. He's a couchfucker.
They're just mad because it's possible he put his hot meat in a love seat. You never know, people have definitely done crazier shit.
Trump likely had lots of Epstein Island frequent flyer punch cards. Wish there was more documentation on the atrocities he likely committed there.
Absolute panic and disarray. I wonder who he would go with. Logically, it would have to be a woman or person of color to counter Harris, right? Would there be anyone who would boost him among pro-Palestinian voters, I wonder?
I don't think he wants a VP who will strengthen him at all. I think he's too prideful.
Vance wasn't picked to complement Trump; he was picked to compliment Trump.
(I wish I could say I was clever enough to have created that.)
Bahahah
Thanks for allowing me to take credit.
I don't think he's beyond a "token DEI hire" who is willing to publicly fellate him if they boost his numbers.
That would offer the projection that the GOP is so fond of exhibiting..
Maybe that psycho bitch that's running for secretary of state? She's lying like a cheap rug, practicing stolen valor, and breaking election laws.
She's perfect
fellate
"What's cuttin' up' a sunfish got to do with Trump?"
-- #maga
They do eat sunfish don't they. They are so weird.
Goes well with possum and moonshine.
(cough) Tim Scott (cough)
Wish Version Beetlejuice? Nah.
That would be Nikki Haley then.
She burned all her good will with him by holding out so long. Being last to kiss the ring comes with consequences.
But she's fellating even harder than the others to make up for it! That should count for something, shouldn't it?
It'd be kind of wonderful to see him forced to crawl back to her.
Lil Wayne for VP.
At this point, he'd blow Putin on live TV if meant he'd win. For him, he HAS to win or he's fucked. This isn't just an election, this is his get out of jail free card and not get shoved out of a window card.
We'll see. It's hardly as if he's never let his pride fuck his life up, he ran for president because Obama laughed at him for Chrissakes
Yeah, but now it's win or go to jail, or worse if he can't pay the loans.
The well done steaks have never been higher
Would there be anyone who would boost him among pro-Palestinian voters, I wonder?
I doubt it, when Trump is on the record as stating that Netanyahu's main problem is he isn't going fast enough.
Trump, who routinely touts his support of Israel more broadly, has reportedly said he supports Israel in its continued “war on terror” after the October 7 attack by Hamas. And like members of the Israeli government, he has cast doubt on the continued viability of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that has been a cornerstone of US policy for decades.
At times, however, he has also been critical of the Israeli campaign. He’s said Israel should “get it over with … get back to peace and stop killing people.” But he’s also emphasized they “have to have a victory” and implied that what’s really the issue is that Israel is “absolutely losing the PR war” and “losing its power” in Congress.
Repubs have been campaigning on a platform of bigotry and hatred for decades so I don't see a woman or minority VP happening. Also Donald is personally a bigot and his eggshell ego could not handle the idea of a VP boosting him.
I don't know that you're wrong, but I'd point out he had Omarosa clinging to him at the beginning of his first term. He doesn't seem above using women or minorities when convenient to make himself look good. He seems to really want the Kanye and rap crowd to love him, as another example.
True but Omarosa and Kanye's interactions with Donald are something far more palatable to the far-right racist Repubs. Donald being president at all is basically down to racists flipping out that a black person was allowed into such a prominent role as president.
He’s already made his commitments to Netanyahu public. He’d be trying to reclaim the people on the right that he’s lost, not woo voters from the left. I think Haley’s the most likely replacement.
think Haley’s the most likely replacement.
Have you seen the reaction to Vance's wife? A person of color VP would mean an exodus from maga.
Exodus is probably overstating it unless they are worried Trump might not last the term. Maga is nothing if not willing to compromise any value to win.
Well that would cover both the woman and color angle. I think you're right.
She’s also already created a small but loyal voter base that she’d bring with her, and would shore up the Christian vote.
How loyal are they to Haley? Are they loyal to Haley only because she stood in opposition (in some form) to Trump? If so, those voters go away if she's on the Trump ticket.
I’m under the impression it was mostly Christian Nationalism, but you may be right.
loyal enough to have gone to her over trump but disloyal enough that their PAC backs Harris now.
It wouldn't necessarily need to be a PoC or woman but Vance was an extremely weak pick - he's basically just a little uncharismatic sychophant from an electorally unhelpful state. Trump would probably prefer to get a swing state candidate or someone who brings votes to the table.
Weirdly enough, that might actually be Nikki Haley since she captured the "reasonable" side of the party (her policy stances were a fucking train wreck especially on reproductive rights).
Nikki Haley is not a sychophant though. He learned that lesson with Pence. He wants someone who will worship him and follow his instructions.
Not some "free thinker".
He absolutely wants a sychophant... but not more than he wants presidential immunity and it's not clear if the Supreme Court's bizarre rulings are enough to give it to him without him being elected... right now they're trying but it's pretty clear Democrats want to overturn that.
The VP has to be picked by Trump for loyalty first. The person in the position has the ability to Amendment 25 him right out of office on day one. No way he picks Haley for that.
For the same reason, it's surprising he even picked Vance. It may have only happened because Musk and Thiel told Trump to. Then Musk backs out of his funding pledge, and suddenly it's being floated to ditch Vance.
He’s gonna replace pour man’s Donald Junior with actual Donald Junior.
I could actually see him doing this, and it would just make things even worse for him lmao
Rashida Tliab.
Trump would never pick a woman
My Pillow Guy for VP. C'mon it would be so much fun!
Plot twist, that's who Trump was actually trying to get but there was a misunderstanding when he asked for "that guy with the fucking cushions".
"i said fucking cushions, not cushion fucker!"
Hell yeah, that would be hilarious. Mike Lindell, the Jesse Ventura we have at home.
If you're from MN they're both at home!
I feel like that's kind of harsh, to you know, the former governor. What has Lindell accomplished other than quitting crack a couple times
And Jesse might have some legit ailments from the military. He's gone a bit cuckoo, but can still remain coherent.
Couch-fucker to That Pillow Fucker.. Yes i like this timeline
Right up until he gets elected... Then it's not as funny anymore..
I think everyone forgot how fast the Trump team rotated during his government (what was the name of that guy that lasted 10 days? Moochie?) in comparison to Biden's government, where AFAIK, there's haven't been a lot of changes on his team.
And if he replaces couchfucker, he'll remind everyone of how unstable a Trump presidency is.
Trump voters are unstable people looking to destabilize government. They don't need to be reminded of that
Hence why I said everyone.
Do you know anyone who is undecided? I don't think there's any left at this point but the media is always talking about them as if there are tons of them.
I'm not downvoting you by the way.
I mean, polls are still changing.
Do you know anyone who is undecided?
Do you know all 300 million Americans? Polls say there's a large undecided amount. Statistically, a good third of the nation doesn't care about politics at all, including whether fascists take over the country.
We don't know any people like this, because how goddamn ignorant do you have to be? To not care? We wouldn't associate with people like that. But they exist and there's a lot of them.
Anthony Scaramucci:
My favorite slimeball. Saw the other CHUDs in the Trump administration and then bounced after eleven days after realizing that "the juice ain't worth the squeeze". I wouldn't turn my back on him, but I would trust him over all other Trump world alumni since he has enough self preservation not to burn the world around him.
Edit: He had an unhinged interview with a reporter and was dismissed a couple days after. Go listen to the audio; I'm laughing so god damn hard at it.
Wasn't he fired after an unhinged cocaine infused interview?
That sounds like him.
Anyone have the sauce? This sounds like a fun thing to watch today lmao
I'm laughing so hard at this. What a shit show of a presidency.
Just listened. Lol. What. The. Fuck. 🤣
He's busy trying to become Bitcoin Mark Cuban - how could he walk away from such an excellent and surely long-lasting show!
What a buffoon.
NOTE: Moochie died on the way back to his home planet
Lower staff have resigned due to Israeli bombing and extrajudicial killings in Palestine. But the rank and file directors have stayed pretty consistent.
"All the best people"
Replacing Vance now would also undermine any argument they might make about switching the names on ballots for the Democrats. Those aren't valid, anyway--Biden wasn't the official nominee until the convention says so; nothing was locked in--but they would now lose the possibility of using it rhetorically.
they would now lose the possibility of using it rhetorically.
I think you're over-estimating their commitment to logic, consistency or reality.
They don't, but it also has to sink in with the general public. When both sides are being switched out, there's a very obvious argument against the claim.
That makes sense but MAGA has always leaned hard on the "but when I do it, it's OK" rhetoric.
never interrupt the enemy when he's making a mistake
Biden wasn’t the official nominee until the convention
Even then, nothing prohibits him (or Vance, realistically) from resigning.
This is mostly just funny to watch.
There is a legal point where states won't accept changes to the ballots. Also a practical one where there isn't time to print new ones. Neither point has passed, of course, but Trump was trying to imply it was.
If Biden died on November 4th, he'd remain on the ballot the next day and - if he won the majority of the EC - Harris would be the presumptive President Elect on November 6th. If Vance resigned as VP, we'd see the same results under a Trump win. We have a clear order of succession and mechanisms for appointing replacements to downticket slots like VP per the 25th amendment.
The absolute worst case scenario is that Trump would force Vance to resign and then be stuck with a House/Senate picking his VP for him. But since he's not even the President-Elect at the moment I don't think that's actually an issue.
Kamala should sue RNC for “undermining the will of the people” in every fucking state. Litigate that shit until the last second before polls close
No, that'd almost certainly be a tactical mistake since it'd lend enough credibility to the claim to get those cases to the Supreme Court and then they'd just rule in favor of Trump in all circumstances... it'd be hard to overrule the court in a situation like that with a deadline for picking an executive and the Supreme Court has shown it's now gloves off crazy mode... no more "we're independent jurists".
Trump's communications director, Steven Cheung, denied the reports in a statement to Newsweek on Tuesday, "President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House. And any reporting to the contrary is nothing but ridiculous fake news from either nonexistent sources or individuals who have no idea what's going on.
Saving this quote for when Trump replaces Vance.
that cheung dude is hilarious. it's like exactly what trump would say except at twice the writing proficiency. so 6th grade level instead of 3rd grade
They'll just yell at you and call you "fake news"
couchfucker
I think the funny part is that he's hated by both sides. A new Ted Cruz.
Well, if a loss gets pinned on him, he'll be given the Liz Cheney/Pence treatment.
He's cracking yall
Hey, with all this talk of unity and how the Democrats should be picking a Republican to run on some kind of centrist wet-dream ticket, how about the "liberal media" starts beating the drum for donnie to kick JD off the ticket and add someone like AOC to the ticket?
You know: for "unity". For the tone - the Republicans should be utterly capitulating to the Democratic Party.
Why does no one in the corporate media ever suggest it is the Republican Party that should cave to the leftist majority in this country, but instead, the reverse is something that comes up. All. The. Time.
Can't wait for Trump to come out and say his campaign should be reimbursed for all dumbass merch they had made as well. What a clownshow.
…and the same people who call the Democratic Party “chaotic” for replacing Biden with Kamala will have no problem shifting gears to adore whatever wretched troll they scrounge up to replace Vance.
So I'm hearing that Harris' VP announcement will be in 11 days.
Democratic convention is 8/19 to 8/22.
I expect the announcement on or just before the 19th. So 20-21 days.
Floor speech from the VP candidate on the 21st. Harris on the 22nd.
Fair enough. At least 11 days. I'd be very surprised if it were before that.
They need a replacement alright, but not just at the bottom of the ticket.
Is it because of all the couch fuckin'?
And the frogs.
It's clear Trump picked Vance to counter Harris, so if she's no longer the VP side of the ticket, Vance is literally pointless. Ohio was going to vote Trump regardless, Vance doesn't bring any added votes that way.
He needs to wait and see who Harris picks as V.P. though.
Empty G 4VP
I just headed over to /r/conservative to skim the posts.
I'll admit that it was a very shallow glance at what they're thinking but it really doesn't look like they're as upset with Vance as liberals like to think they are.
They're not as smug as they were a few weeks ago but they're still pretty comfortable with their poll numbers.
lol i'm guessing you haven't spent much time in /r/conservative. which i don't blame you for
but the reason they don't express dissatisfaction with anything going on in conservativeland is because you'll get banned if you do
Nope he made his bed, time to lie in it.
Or he could sleep on the couch...
Sticky.
So, now that JD has provided contacts to the Silicon Valley billionaires and proven to be an iron ball on Trumps feet, he can be replaced?
I wonder how much dirty laundry he culd wash from all the stuff he has already seen inside the campaign...
He's trying to time it for immediately after Harris announces her VP pick. He wants to steal the news cycle from her.
Schumer is goading Trump into keeping him. He knows Trump is too prideful to let a Democrat be right about something.
This is actually a brilliant strategy then. It's a lose-lose.
Plus any legal cases of you can't change your nominee from Biden, weaken a lot if Dump switches his VP. Of course any case against not letting them switch out Biden is already dead in the water if heard by a rational non corrupt court.. So nevermind actually
They'd argue that the people don't directly choose the VP just the presidential nominee. In fact Vance wasn't even on the ticket during the primaries.
Good point
I love how they’re fucking with him. It’s going to cause him to do more silly shit.
Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can't complete a coherent sentence is scared. He's looking really bad, the dementia is really getting to him. He picked a VP that he forgot was openly talking shit about him and loves fucking couches. He needs to just drop out, it's embarrassing.
I'm with you except for the fucking couches part. It was a joke someone on Twitter said that had no basis in reality (AP fact checked), and repeating it, knowing its not true, is the behavior of a bully.
Call him a fascist because that's what he is, not some made up insult with no basis in reality.
I'm actually fine with bullying fascists though. It's not like theyre gonna take your civility as an example to follow, and if this bullying also messes up their plans then even better.
Bullying fascists is already being civil tbh, its still far nicer than what they deserve
Thus our solution for the Paradox of Tolerance
Then harass him for things he's actually done! There are plenty of them. You weaken your argument against him by ignoring the valid criticisms and making up ridiculous ones.
"Don't they have any real criticism?!"
Yes, we do! We have lots! Let's use it.
I get what you're saying but I've had quite enough of the high road. You realize as much as i that it doesn't work. Not everything has to be a goldarn calculation. I can destroy their argument and then their ego. With any tool i care to use. If somehow a schoolyard rumor is the fuckin trick to crack their will to ruin my democracy ill use it, watch their lil faces twist, and ill sleep super sound at night.
So while I am amused by the whole gag, I would say it's less about the "high" road and more about the fact that the "low" road may not work. Fox News was low-roading all over Obama, making up crap and trying to make a deal out of nothing. It never really impacted Obama's popularity, as anyone vaguely on the fence saw it and said "ok, this is stupid, if that's all Fox News can come up with, then I guess there's nothing to find".
It really tickles my pickle that Fox might break the record for largest settlement, right after they broke the record for largest settlement
I've yet to see him deny being a couch fucker and the AP retracted their correction when someone pointed out that they can't prove he never fucked a couch. If this bullying causes him to leave the campaign, then it's working as intended. Along with being a couch fucker, JD Vance is, like all Republicans, a spineless weasel obsessed with acquiring power any way he can.
Is calling Vance a couch fucker any worse than Republicans alleging that Harris slept her way to the top?
No, it's the same thing. Accusing people of things you know they didn't do is the sign of an asshole. We should be better than that.
Yeah cos "When they go low, we go high!" worked so well in 2016!
We try to win against bad people and still be better than them when we're done.
MFW trying to keep our values is somehow bad.
We should be better than that? We keep doing that. We keep taking it on the chin and taking the high road. The high road got us Dementia Don. I'm fine with throwing some of their shit right back at them. Does it make me an asshole? Honestly, I don't care. I'm over the republikkklowns, and I'm ready for our country to progress again. Fuck that couch fucker and the elephant he rode in on. Fuck the Russians that are out spewing bullshit propaganda along with the assets they have that have managed to get elected. While I'm at it, FUCK anyone voting for them. You're a piece of shit if you do, there is no argument, no defense.
Here's the thing, though: I don't know he didn't, at some point in his life, stroke himself off using a particularly soft and giving piece of furniture. Teenage boys are weird and horny. Until he addresses the issue himself, we can't say he isn't a couch fucker.
Why should we be better than that? How does that win elections?
still the behavior of a bully. Might work in the short term but in the long term everyone hates the bully regardless if it the ends seem to justify the means.
Bullying fascists is morally correct.
Many fine people say he fucks couches. Many fine people.
The AP deleted their fact check, and the whole story stated because of a passage in the first printing of his book. He's a couchfucker.
What was the passage?
They deleted their fact check because they can't prove he never fucked a couch. You can't prove a negative. However the passage in his book does not exist. It was made up by someone as a joke.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/07/jd-vance-couch-memes-associated-press
Go ahead and troll them. It’s a lot worse than what they plan on doing to us.
I missed it--what was up with couches?
Some random Twitter user made a false claim that Vance admitted to fucking his couch in his book. There was no such admission anywhere.
Hasn't admitted to it... but what's more important is he has made no effort to deny the accusations. JD has been suspiciously quiet on this subject.
Oh I DID see a reference to that but didn't understand it. Thanks for explaining.
I see nothing wrong with bullying a fascist. I'd do much worse if I could.
He's a fascist wealking who if he isnt able to handle such things, well fuck him. I want him to use buckshot mouthwash and if that is achieved through bullying then so fucken be it.
Thank you. I have been criticized for saying the same.
Because you're supposed to bully fascists. He's a couchfucker.
They're just mad because it's possible he put his hot meat in a love seat. You never know, people have definitely done crazier shit.
Trump likely had lots of Epstein Island frequent flyer punch cards. Wish there was more documentation on the atrocities he likely committed there.
It would make sexing a sofa seem so silly.
Absolute panic and disarray. I wonder who he would go with. Logically, it would have to be a woman or person of color to counter Harris, right? Would there be anyone who would boost him among pro-Palestinian voters, I wonder?
I don't think he wants a VP who will strengthen him at all. I think he's too prideful.
Vance wasn't picked to complement Trump; he was picked to compliment Trump.
(I wish I could say I was clever enough to have created that.)
Bahahah
Thanks for allowing me to take credit.
I don't think he's beyond a "token DEI hire" who is willing to publicly fellate him if they boost his numbers.
That would offer the projection that the GOP is so fond of exhibiting..
Maybe that psycho bitch that's running for secretary of state? She's lying like a cheap rug, practicing stolen valor, and breaking election laws.
She's perfect
"What's cuttin' up' a sunfish got to do with Trump?"
-- #maga
They do eat sunfish don't they. They are so weird.
Goes well with possum and moonshine.
(cough) Tim Scott (cough)
Wish Version Beetlejuice? Nah.
That would be Nikki Haley then.
She burned all her good will with him by holding out so long. Being last to kiss the ring comes with consequences.
But she's fellating even harder than the others to make up for it! That should count for something, shouldn't it?
It'd be kind of wonderful to see him forced to crawl back to her.
Lil Wayne for VP.
At this point, he'd blow Putin on live TV if meant he'd win. For him, he HAS to win or he's fucked. This isn't just an election, this is his get out of jail free card and not get shoved out of a window card.
We'll see. It's hardly as if he's never let his pride fuck his life up, he ran for president because Obama laughed at him for Chrissakes
Yeah, but now it's win or go to jail, or worse if he can't pay the loans.
The well done steaks have never been higher
I doubt it, when Trump is on the record as stating that Netanyahu's main problem is he isn't going fast enough.
https://www.vox.com/politics/353037/trump-gaza-israel-protests-biden-election-2024
Repubs have been campaigning on a platform of bigotry and hatred for decades so I don't see a woman or minority VP happening. Also Donald is personally a bigot and his eggshell ego could not handle the idea of a VP boosting him.
I don't know that you're wrong, but I'd point out he had Omarosa clinging to him at the beginning of his first term. He doesn't seem above using women or minorities when convenient to make himself look good. He seems to really want the Kanye and rap crowd to love him, as another example.
True but Omarosa and Kanye's interactions with Donald are something far more palatable to the far-right racist Repubs. Donald being president at all is basically down to racists flipping out that a black person was allowed into such a prominent role as president.
He’s already made his commitments to Netanyahu public. He’d be trying to reclaim the people on the right that he’s lost, not woo voters from the left. I think Haley’s the most likely replacement.
Have you seen the reaction to Vance's wife? A person of color VP would mean an exodus from maga.
Exodus is probably overstating it unless they are worried Trump might not last the term. Maga is nothing if not willing to compromise any value to win.
Well that would cover both the woman and color angle. I think you're right.
She’s also already created a small but loyal voter base that she’d bring with her, and would shore up the Christian vote.
How loyal are they to Haley? Are they loyal to Haley only because she stood in opposition (in some form) to Trump? If so, those voters go away if she's on the Trump ticket.
I’m under the impression it was mostly Christian Nationalism, but you may be right.
loyal enough to have gone to her over trump but disloyal enough that their PAC backs Harris now.
It wouldn't necessarily need to be a PoC or woman but Vance was an extremely weak pick - he's basically just a little uncharismatic sychophant from an electorally unhelpful state. Trump would probably prefer to get a swing state candidate or someone who brings votes to the table.
Weirdly enough, that might actually be Nikki Haley since she captured the "reasonable" side of the party (her policy stances were a fucking train wreck especially on reproductive rights).
Nikki Haley is not a sychophant though. He learned that lesson with Pence. He wants someone who will worship him and follow his instructions.
Not some "free thinker".
He absolutely wants a sychophant... but not more than he wants presidential immunity and it's not clear if the Supreme Court's bizarre rulings are enough to give it to him without him being elected... right now they're trying but it's pretty clear Democrats want to overturn that.
The VP has to be picked by Trump for loyalty first. The person in the position has the ability to Amendment 25 him right out of office on day one. No way he picks Haley for that.
For the same reason, it's surprising he even picked Vance. It may have only happened because Musk and Thiel told Trump to. Then Musk backs out of his funding pledge, and suddenly it's being floated to ditch Vance.
He’s gonna replace pour man’s Donald Junior with actual Donald Junior.
I could actually see him doing this, and it would just make things even worse for him lmao
Rashida Tliab.
Trump would never pick a woman
My Pillow Guy for VP. C'mon it would be so much fun!
Plot twist, that's who Trump was actually trying to get but there was a misunderstanding when he asked for "that guy with the fucking cushions".
"i said fucking cushions, not cushion fucker!"
Hell yeah, that would be hilarious. Mike Lindell, the Jesse Ventura we have at home.
If you're from MN they're both at home!
I feel like that's kind of harsh, to you know, the former governor. What has Lindell accomplished other than quitting crack a couple times
And Jesse might have some legit ailments from the military. He's gone a bit cuckoo, but can still remain coherent.
Couch-fucker to That Pillow Fucker.. Yes i like this timeline
Right up until he gets elected... Then it's not as funny anymore..
I think everyone forgot how fast the Trump team rotated during his government (what was the name of that guy that lasted 10 days? Moochie?) in comparison to Biden's government, where AFAIK, there's haven't been a lot of changes on his team.
And if he replaces couchfucker, he'll remind everyone of how unstable a Trump presidency is.
Trump voters are unstable people looking to destabilize government. They don't need to be reminded of that
Hence why I said everyone.
Do you know anyone who is undecided? I don't think there's any left at this point but the media is always talking about them as if there are tons of them.
I'm not downvoting you by the way.
I mean, polls are still changing.
Do you know all 300 million Americans? Polls say there's a large undecided amount. Statistically, a good third of the nation doesn't care about politics at all, including whether fascists take over the country.
We don't know any people like this, because how goddamn ignorant do you have to be? To not care? We wouldn't associate with people like that. But they exist and there's a lot of them.
Anthony Scaramucci: My favorite slimeball. Saw the other CHUDs in the Trump administration and then bounced after eleven days after realizing that "the juice ain't worth the squeeze". I wouldn't turn my back on him, but I would trust him over all other Trump world alumni since he has enough self preservation not to burn the world around him.
Edit: He had an unhinged interview with a reporter and was dismissed a couple days after. Go listen to the audio; I'm laughing so god damn hard at it.
Wasn't he fired after an unhinged cocaine infused interview?
That sounds like him.
Anyone have the sauce? This sounds like a fun thing to watch today lmao
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hfTsQV2yzpM
I'm laughing so hard at this. What a shit show of a presidency.
Just listened. Lol. What. The. Fuck. 🤣
He's busy trying to become Bitcoin Mark Cuban - how could he walk away from such an excellent and surely long-lasting show!
What a buffoon.
NOTE: Moochie died on the way back to his home planet
Lower staff have resigned due to Israeli bombing and extrajudicial killings in Palestine. But the rank and file directors have stayed pretty consistent.
"All the best people"
Replacing Vance now would also undermine any argument they might make about switching the names on ballots for the Democrats. Those aren't valid, anyway--Biden wasn't the official nominee until the convention says so; nothing was locked in--but they would now lose the possibility of using it rhetorically.
I think you're over-estimating their commitment to logic, consistency or reality.
They don't, but it also has to sink in with the general public. When both sides are being switched out, there's a very obvious argument against the claim.
That makes sense but MAGA has always leaned hard on the "but when I do it, it's OK" rhetoric.
never interrupt the enemy when he's making a mistake
Even then, nothing prohibits him (or Vance, realistically) from resigning.
This is mostly just funny to watch.
There is a legal point where states won't accept changes to the ballots. Also a practical one where there isn't time to print new ones. Neither point has passed, of course, but Trump was trying to imply it was.
If Biden died on November 4th, he'd remain on the ballot the next day and - if he won the majority of the EC - Harris would be the presumptive President Elect on November 6th. If Vance resigned as VP, we'd see the same results under a Trump win. We have a clear order of succession and mechanisms for appointing replacements to downticket slots like VP per the 25th amendment.
The absolute worst case scenario is that Trump would force Vance to resign and then be stuck with a House/Senate picking his VP for him. But since he's not even the President-Elect at the moment I don't think that's actually an issue.
Kamala should sue RNC for “undermining the will of the people” in every fucking state. Litigate that shit until the last second before polls close
No, that'd almost certainly be a tactical mistake since it'd lend enough credibility to the claim to get those cases to the Supreme Court and then they'd just rule in favor of Trump in all circumstances... it'd be hard to overrule the court in a situation like that with a deadline for picking an executive and the Supreme Court has shown it's now gloves off crazy mode... no more "we're independent jurists".
Saving this quote for when Trump replaces Vance.
that cheung dude is hilarious. it's like exactly what trump would say except at twice the writing proficiency. so 6th grade level instead of 3rd grade
They'll just yell at you and call you "fake news"
couchfucker
I think the funny part is that he's hated by both sides. A new Ted Cruz.
Well, if a loss gets pinned on him, he'll be given the Liz Cheney/Pence treatment.
He's cracking yall
Hey, with all this talk of unity and how the Democrats should be picking a Republican to run on some kind of centrist wet-dream ticket, how about the "liberal media" starts beating the drum for donnie to kick JD off the ticket and add someone like AOC to the ticket?
You know: for "unity". For the tone - the Republicans should be utterly capitulating to the Democratic Party.
Why does no one in the corporate media ever suggest it is the Republican Party that should cave to the leftist majority in this country, but instead, the reverse is something that comes up. All. The. Time.
Can't wait for Trump to come out and say his campaign should be reimbursed for all dumbass merch they had made as well. What a clownshow.
…and the same people who call the Democratic Party “chaotic” for replacing Biden with Kamala will have no problem shifting gears to adore whatever wretched troll they scrounge up to replace Vance.
So I'm hearing that Harris' VP announcement will be in 11 days.
Democratic convention is 8/19 to 8/22.
I expect the announcement on or just before the 19th. So 20-21 days.
Floor speech from the VP candidate on the 21st. Harris on the 22nd.
Fair enough. At least 11 days. I'd be very surprised if it were before that.
They need a replacement alright, but not just at the bottom of the ticket.
Is it because of all the couch fuckin'?
And the frogs.
It's clear Trump picked Vance to counter Harris, so if she's no longer the VP side of the ticket, Vance is literally pointless. Ohio was going to vote Trump regardless, Vance doesn't bring any added votes that way.
He needs to wait and see who Harris picks as V.P. though.
Empty G 4VP
I just headed over to /r/conservative to skim the posts.
I'll admit that it was a very shallow glance at what they're thinking but it really doesn't look like they're as upset with Vance as liberals like to think they are.
They're not as smug as they were a few weeks ago but they're still pretty comfortable with their poll numbers.
lol i'm guessing you haven't spent much time in /r/conservative. which i don't blame you for
but the reason they don't express dissatisfaction with anything going on in conservativeland is because you'll get banned if you do
Nope he made his bed, time to lie in it.
Or he could sleep on the couch...
Sticky.
So, now that JD has provided contacts to the Silicon Valley billionaires and proven to be an iron ball on Trumps feet, he can be replaced?
I wonder how much dirty laundry he culd wash from all the stuff he has already seen inside the campaign...
He's trying to time it for immediately after Harris announces her VP pick. He wants to steal the news cycle from her.