A school district in Pennsylvania approved nearly $9,000 ‘to cut windows into the ‘gender-identity’ student bathrooms so passerby can look inside’
South Western’s elected school board is making some strange decisions.
For the last two years, they’ve fixated on which bathrooms LGBTQ+ kids use. In 2023, officials in this Hanover-area district played musical chairs with school bathrooms in a misguided attempt to appease the loudest bigots among them — ending up with five different types of bathrooms.
After a low-turnout school board election in which several far-right members joined their ranks, they hired a Christian law firm, decided to begin banning books and reopened the bathroom issue. Board President Matthew Gelazela, who was elevated to his post after previously serving as the board’s most vocal bomb-thrower, pointed to Red Lion’s discriminatory policies as something to aspire to.
Now, upon the advice of that law firm — the Harrisburg-based Independence Law Center — the board approved spending $8,700 to cut windows so passersby can look into the so-called “gender-identity” student bathrooms.
You've always got to show up for those school board elections now. Every. Single. Time.
Or live in Houston and the governor can just strip your School Board of power, then install an unelected bureaucrat to loot the school treasury.
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Texussy
Just say Texas Pussy
Your generation and the reluctance to say Pussy is abhorring.
Bussy = Butt Pussy. Clussy = Clown Pussy. Its real easy, barely even saves letters to shorten it in the first place, and it works for other short words with vowels too: roof pussy, cow pussy, rent pussy, trans pussy, truck pussy.
You fuckinussy.
Tread on me, daddy.
Yeah we're the freest state in the union as long as your chosen freedom conforms with the Republican agenda.
These are the people who continually call everyone on the left "groomers" and taking an unhealthy interest in kids? The same people cutting peepholes into school bathrooms?
Anyone who shows up to a school board meeting to complain about bathrooms should automatically have the police sent to look at their hard drive. If you're that concerned about the bathroom habits of young children, the cops really need to look at your internet history and the contents of your hard drive.
Drag wants to complain about bathrooms at schools. If we segregate the bathrooms at schools, we're teaching kids that segregation is okay. We should be preparing the next generation to have less hangups and weird behaviour than we do. The kids already all have mixed gender bathrooms at home. They won't think anything of desegregating bathrooms, and it'll create a less sexist society.
If you're gonna talk about desegregating bathrooms I think it's important to talk about designing bathrooms for greater privacy as well. Ideally you don't want a bunch of urinals lined up across from the sink / common area with no dividers in a desegregated bathroom. It's a bad idea to just remove the signs on existing public bathroom designs and say anything goes.
Also, why do you keep referring to yourself in the 3rd person?
Drag isn't referring to dragself in the third person. Drag has person independent pronouns. Most people have first, second, and third person pronouns for subject, object, and possessive. That's 9 pronouns. Drag just has one. Much simpler and easier to remember.
Who is this "Drag" that you keep referring to?
Drag would appreciate it if you used drag's second person neopronouns instead of saying "you". Drag only has one pronoun, so it's very simple to use and easy to remember, and drag's pronoun is in drag's display name.
Oh, I see you're just trolling. Carry on.
Drag is not trolling. Drag will continue to exist as an enby until you get used to it.
For most people what's familiar is easier to remember than what's simpler. Personally I find drag's comments difficult to parse. I'll respect drag's wishes regarding how drag wants to be referred to, but I expect drag's going to have a lot of friction even with very tolerant and accepting people if drag insists on that pronoun choice.
This video might be helpful for drag. I know the title is a bit clickbaity but I promise the person in the video is also tolerant and accepting.
Edit: I went through and replaced all instances of you/your with drag. I think this is illustrative of the problem with drag's approach. If everyone has to expend great effort simply to interact with drag in a respectful manner then that will lead to people becoming frustrated with drag. While drag's identity is entirely drag's business and no one else's, drag's insistence on a difficult/unfamiliar pronoun is a choice, and drag could make drag's life easier by loosening up.
Drag will watch the video, but drag wonders why the title uses a right wing name for the right wing, and a right wing name for the left wing. The video could use each side's name for themselves, or each side's name for the other side. But only using right wing terms makes it seem like the video has a right wing bias. Drag will still watch, but drag will do so with critical thinking.
I noticed that too when I first came across the video, but after becoming more familiar with this person's content I saw that they lean progressive/inclusive and the title is like that probably just for the sake of clickbait or because they're coming from a more centrist/liberal perspective and aren't as familiar with leftist terminology.
I still think their perspective as a linguist is worth hearing.
Drag finished watching the video pretty much. 3 minutes left and it seemed like she was winding down. Drag was already familiar with all the main content Jones covered. Drag thinks she's probably underestimating the knowledge of linguistics literacy on the left because she's from a more right leaning culture, where the "left wing" people local to that area are who would be considered moderates in other places. She used a right wing name for the left wing, so drag thinks she hasn't actually immersed herself in left wing political culture enough to understand it.
With regard to the argument that using new pronouns is hard, drag understands and already knew her arguments. But drag thinks Jones neglected to consider the impact of neuroplasticity. Adapting to neopronouns is a skill. People with lots of practice get it faster and with less effort. Drag's presence on Lemmy is challenging people and causing them to learn. Expanding minds. Just like the linguist with the N word pronouns. Drag picked new pronouns for this account as an experiment. Drag likes the new pronouns. Drag made revisions when an idea didn't work, and now drag sometimes uses drag/dragself pronouns in conversation with drag's friends and family off of Lemmy. They make drag feel dragony.
Drag's identity is a conversation.
EDIT: Also, drag just remembered Jones' point about misgendering trans people in conversation with people who know less. Well, drag has been in that situation. Drag was out to everyone and presenting full time, and even though drag's mother struggled with drag's pronouns, drag felt like she was finally getting it and understanding. She hadn't misgendered drag in nearly a year. Well, then drag overheard drag's mother in the next room he/him-ing drag to drag's elderly grandfather. And drag felt like shit. Drag's grandfather is in his 90s and he's an asshole. He's never going to accept drag. And drag had accepted that, and decided to just ignore him until he died. But when drag's mother, who had been making all that progress, he/him-ed drag to the grandfather, drag suddenly realised that drag didn't know if she had been misgendering drag behind drag's back all the time. Drag realised that drag would never be able to trust that she was actually making an effort to respect drag, or if she was just appeasing drag to drag's face. So drag moved out of home and cut contact with her. And drag is going to ignore her until she dies too. That's not the only reason for our bad relationship, but it was a point where everything crystallised and drag decided to stop making excuses for her.
I appreciate that drag took the time to watch the whole video and I think drag is probably right about Jones' cultural background, as it is similar to mine. I only meant to help make drag's life easier if that's something drag was having trouble with, but I respect that drag already understood the friction that drag's neopronoun creates and made an informed choice to use it on lemmy.
Also, nice Steven Universe clip. That's a show that helped me understand people like drag and is why I have the patience to engage with drag despite the very conservative cultural context I live in.
Drag is glad you understand drag's motivations now. Drag didn't pick these neopronouns with any kind of malice. Drag believes that all the people on Lemmy have the ability to be better than they were yesterday. Drag thinks it's just a matter of giving people situations in which they have the option to choose to grow and learn. Give people enough chances, and they'll turn out alright.
Drag is 9 minutes into the video and Jones is saying that using neopronouns is easier than people make it out to be. Drag agrees and drag told you so. Drag also already knew what a pronoun is. Drag has yet to encounter new information, apart from Zulu's 16 grammatical genders
If drag keeps watching the next point he makes is the exact inverse, namely that neopronouns are also harder than many people make them out to be. Specifically when he talks about the processing cost that is incurred by using even standard/traditional pronouns in certain ways. The parts of the video I thought would be most helpful are in his conclusion, so I do recommend watching to the end.
The part I believe is helpful starts at 15:10
Every accusation is an admission. Never forget it.
Yep, the people whose entire personality is combating the "woke liberal left".
You know, the people they portray is foaming at the mouth woke crusaders. When in actuality, 95% of left voters consist of people who don't give a shit about all this besides listening to the oppressed minorities problems and proposed solutions, and showing the smallest amount of empathy.
"Oh damn, I didn't realize you dealt with that shit. Yeah, ok, gender neutral bathrooms are cool. Whatever you need, doesn’t bother me."
Right: "screeeeeeeee!!!"
"Guys, guys... If we just hurt these kids enough, it will force them back into the closet and we'll get to pretend LGBTQ+ kids don't exist!" - These assholes, probably
That's the plan. Ostracize to literal death and pretend it's an unfortunate side-effect that following a god (more specifically, their god) will fix.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's not the substance of the issue that matters at all, it's the taboo. Accepting these kids diminishes their kink, they're not being naughty if it's socially acceptable and wheres the fun in that.
These are really fucking weird and dangerous people.
Whoever approved this is clearly very weird.
Yeah, is this not like blatantly pedophilic? Very weird
And yet, I don't see any evidence of drag queen or gay involvement.
Nothing new here lol. Every accusation etc etc
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I'm betting there is some sort of legal prohibition against creating a mixed-gender restroom, and the way they are getting around it is by declaring only the toilet stalls to be restrooms. With the window into the area of the sinks, that area is a public space, and can't legally be considered part of the restroom.
So long as the toilets are in actual rooms with floor to ceiling walls and actual doors (not the bullshit stalls we typically use in the US), and those rooms don't have windows, this isn't as terrible an idea as it initially seems.
They have already created gender neutral restrooms, according to the article these windows are not in those.
There's 2 stalls visible in the picture. The walls are not floor to ceiling, the doors have larger gaps above and though it isn't visible, I expect also a gap below. It's not clear if there are vertical visibility slits on the sides of the doors. But they're clearly just stalls really.
But it doesn't really matter how the stalls are, the way that we know that this is targeted spite and bullying, is that windows are being cut only in a specific subset of the restrooms. They're trying to shame and intimidate the kids that are in those restrooms.
Possible.
It's also possible that the stalls do provide an adequate degree of privacy, coming very close to the floor, and sufficiently high enough to prevent people from seeing inside. They certainly don't look like the stalls my school used.
Frankly, if their intention is to shame and intimidated, I'm rather surprised they are going to this much effort, when they could just not do anything at all.
Do we know that the other, gender-neutral restrooms are similarly communal? Is it possible that they are single-user facilities with sinks, and need only appropriate signage to make them inclusive?
I've stopped giving USA republicans the benefit of doubt years ago, Trump's first year in office was enough to convince me. I've accepted that they are comically evil and that they have no redeeming qualities. So if I see something that is comically evil, then I'm not going to invent possibilities of why it might not be as bad, because in my experience it will turn out that after a little digging, it's actually worse.
Also the administration was given the opportunity to justify or explain their actions by the reporter, and they chose not to, most likely not because they didn't want to, but because they couldn't do so in a matter that did not make them appear like spiteful bigots. There's no point in inventing possible defenses for them if they could not provide them themselves.
Republicans don't have five types of bathrooms. Republicans have two. That alone should tell you that the Republicans aren't actually in control here.
What is actually happening is that the Republicans are trying to get rid of the "gender inclusive" restroom, and revert it to boys only. They don't want 5 kinds of restrooms. They want two.
After reading some more, it turns out the Republicans are claiming the area outside the stalls is a "changing area", and the law prohibits coed changing areas. Be "inclusive" of more than one gender in a "changing area", and you violate the law.
Changing areas don't have public-facing windows. Areas with public-facing windows aren't changing areas. Without the window, the Republicans get to make it a boys-only room. With the window to the sinks - not the toilets - it is not a changing area, and the Republican argument fails.
Seems reasonable and likely, but that's not what people here want they want an enemy they can pretend is pure evil so they can feel good about themselves
This is really just a messaging problem. If you asked the students and parents if they should renovate a communal bathroom into multiple, single-user unisex bathrooms, they would likely receive enthusiastic support. If you then asked if it were reasonable to use communal hand washing facilities in a public area outside the restrooms instead of a sink in every unisex bathroom, you'd still get plenty of support.
It's only when you start talking about "windows" that shit goes sideways. They could completely tear out the wall, and this plan would be fine: they would be single-user restrooms along a hallway, with communal sinks also in that hallway.
My town hosts public festivals all the time. They bring in a dozen portapotties and a hand washing station. Nobody seems to have a problem washing their hands in sight of the general public. That's basically what is happening here.
As someone so eloquently said; maybe one if my pigs just shat a gold nugget (gotta check that out, right)
Read up on it some more, from a less biased source. The Republicans want this to be a boy's room. The law prohibits coed changing rooms. Be "inclusive" of multiple genders in a room that qualifies as a "changing room", and you violate the law.
Changing rooms don't have windows. Put in a window, and the area can't be considered a changing room. Since it isn't a changing room, the Republican argument fails, and they don't get to get rid of the gender inclusive restroom entirely. You still have privacy while you are using the toilet. You don't have privacy while you are washing your hands.
So in this case, you might want to figure out where your pig has been eating and stake a claim.
?????
I don't think these school board members have enough privacy in their homes.
War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, Republican bullshit is still Republican bullshit.
Right, Windows never added privacy.
I understand it now!
The window looks over the sink area where you would wash your hands after ensuring you are dressed and decent upon leaving the private stall.
The idea is by having the window in the wash area, students will be hyperconscious that this is not a private space, and they will be mindful to move into the truly private stall before starting their private business.
I think it's purely to avoid the following example;
The number of times I've stepped into a public restroom because I needed to fix something privately - my stockings are rolling down, a bandaid on my upper thigh needs replacing, my bra strap is coming loose. These are things that are private but not as private as using the toilet, so often I'll just fix these things up while I'm at the sink area, I don't need a stall.
But if someone walks in while I'm fixing my stockings, well they didn't consent to seeing so much of my upper thigh when they turned the corner, and while I personally don't care that they saw me, I can see how a teenage girl might be deeply upset if this happened because she absent mindedly forgot that the sink area is not truly private.
Spooky I think it's to constahtkt remind the students that onky the stalls are truly private.
It's a misguided, and potentially harmful way to do this though...
Anyone want to take a bet that someone at the law firm or on the school board, really loves to sexual assault children?
Do all these weirdos have gendered bathrooms in their homes? Just install single person non gendered bathrooms or floor to ceiling stalls and non connected sinks and be done with it.
I point out that communal bathrooms are the problem every time this type of nonsense shows up
I think the problem is the bigotry, personally.
From a local station.
Just fucking WOW. I guess we should check their assholes next.
https://www.wgal.com/article/parents-upset-over-window-installation-south-westerns-gender-inclusive-bathrooms/62492963
Ok, I'll explain that a little better: the place where you take a shit is a private space. The place where you wash your hands is a public space.
In a normal restroom, it is permissible to be partially undressed outside of the stalls, but within the hand washing area of the restroom, as that can be considered a changing area, like a locker room.
With the addition of the window, there is no longer a place that can be considered a "changing area" outside the stalls. If they built proper walls and used proper doors for the "stalls", they just made some private restrooms next to some public sinks.
This is to alienate or ostracize a certain group. They don't care that someone might change in that area. They want it to fail.
Since you only have a reference from tv about other places outside the US, Germany has unisex bathrooms. It is a place to shit and piss. If you want to change, knock yourself out. However in the US we have tiny doors that you can easily see around. Privacy is not high on our list.
The Republicans do, indeed, want to get rid of these bathrooms, and revert them to boys rooms. If they controlled the board, that is exactly what they would have. The fact that they have 5 different types of restrooms tells me the Republicans aren't the ones making the decisions; the board is accommodating the students.
The Republicans are using a law prohibiting coed changing rooms. They are claiming the area outside the stalls qualifies as a changing area, and they have precedence to support that designation. If it is a changing area, the gender inclusive restroom violates the law. They do, indeed, want it to fail, which it will do if the issue goes to court while that law is in place.
Unless they can prove that the area outside the stalls is not a changing area. Changing areas don't have public-facing windows. It can't be an illegal, coed changing area if it has a public-facing window.
That is exactly what they made here. Each stall is now considered a unisex bathroom, and the hand washing area is no longer a "changing area".
Does this particular room use typical semi-private partitions, or have they switched to some sort of wall or full partition that offers actual privacy? The photo shows only the window; it does not provide a good view of the stalls.
You are missing the major point. They are only doing it to one group (singling out). Imagine if they cut a window into the female's bathroom and determined the outside was not considered private? How about they cut windows to all the bathrooms and make all as just bathrooms. Like you do at your house, unless you have a men's and women's bathrooms.
Not all communal restrooms have stall partitions suitable for that plan. Nor do they need them if the area outside the stalls is a changing area. The school does need to provide changing areas. Eliminating one unnecessarily doesn't make sense.
The discourse around this is very confusing, especially as a non American who has never been in an American school bathroom.
What you're describing sounds like a normal public toilet set up in my country
There's a hallway or doorway into an open space with mirrors sinks and hand dryers, sometimes that hallway has a door to it, but often it's just an open door frame. Sometimes they'll put a 90 degree turn in the hall to obscure looking straight in, but not always.
Behind the sinks are private stalls. At more expensive locations they'll have semiambulant stalls, some will even have their own sink inside the stall so that the full access toilet and wash room can be available to those who can't ambulate.
(full access toilets and wash rooms are entirely seperate from the sink and stalls)
The sink area is often still segregated by gender at older establishments, but anyone walking past could glimpse in and see /shock fully dressed people washing their hands!
From the school restrooms I've seen depicted in various British TV shows, there isn't much physical difference. The only practical difference is that males, females, and various other genders might be washing hands in the same room at the same time. Now with a window to remind everyone that the sink area is a public space, and isn't to be used as a changing area.
Yeah... Protect me from those creeps watching my kid in the bathroom.. wait..
You only need two types of bathrooms. One for standing while peeing and the other for sitting. That's the only way bathrooms need to be divided.
I noticed neither of your stated options has windows.
Well no...that would be weird.
Only if you're not a fundie wack job
man from the child molester party wants windows in childrens bathrooms for totally not molester reasons.
This seems to be a pretty blatant violation of IBC chapter 21 1210.3
Dang I didn’t realize root beer has so many rules.
Sassafras, one of the main traditional ingredients in the manufacture of root beer, is carcinogenic and has been banned in the US since 1960. There are a surprising number of rules surrounding root beer.
That doesn't seem to be a code? Are you talking about the cope lintel and I guess 2104.1.1?
*oh that's some 2021 version change. PA is on 2018 and chapter 21 is masonry which got me to the other violation.
You can violate 2021 IBC all you want in PA because it isn't adopted code. 2018 only cares about privacy for urinal partitions and the enclosed stalls which weren't touched.
Oh bummer, PA sucks
Throwing out codes when you don't know any details about the situation is classic lemmy brain
Hot take
starting to think the anti trans crusaders are just paedophiles looking to legitimise paedophilia.
Pedo-con theory is a "theory", like the theory of Gravity is "only a theory."
In case anyone else was wondering how they came up with 5 types of bathroom:
Source
the fact they have the space for all of that means they have the space to eliminate communal bathrooms altogether
It sounded like that's their current "problem.". Since it's the adults with agendas that are doing the only complaining, the kids are just using whatever bathroom is most convenient, so CIS kids are using the Identify as X bathroom because they don't care, they just need to use a damn bathroom. I took it as that's why they want the windows in the non CIS bathrooms.
I feel stupider for having to try to explain this like it makes any sense. Just have single, unisex bathrooms already like everyone has at home!
....those don't even remotely work to serve all genders.
I still wouldn't technically be able to pee anywhere if I was a student at that school (other than the single stall room....why not just have a bunch like that?)
I can't believe this isn't illegal. What the thru idk fuck.
I daresay no one thought we needed a law against cutting a hole in the wall of a school bathroom. I certainly didn't have it on my bingo card for this month.
Perverts and child abusers, the lot.
They're so concerned about what's going on inside children's pants that they now was to watch them in bathroom.
Sounds pretty fucking weird to me
Conservative Christians increase their involvement and within a year the children's bathroom has a viewport for pedophiles installed.
Ah, this takes me back to my own high school days back in the 90s where none of the boys' toilet stalls had doors on them. I assume as some sort of anti-masturbation tactic. I've got nervous bathroom issues already so I basically held it in until I got home most of the time.
I went through 4 years of high school without ever taking a shit at school for this very reason.
It wasn’t because the bathrooms were disgusting?
We had a bunch of stalls in the 90s without doors, but the janitors told us it was just because asshole kids would break the doors for fun and the school would run out of money to repair them.
Even just partially damaging a door can make it a dangerous enough that the school would rather take it down than risk a lawsuit.
Made more sense to me than some sort of anti masturbation strategy. High school kids are fucking dumb as shit and I can definitely imagine them breaking stall doors for fun
Yup, at my highschool by week 5 they'd be swapping all the gender signs on the bathrooms because the girls were wrecking the mirrors and the boys would bust the doors, and they only had the budget to fix each once so they'd rotate who used which bathrooms to even out the type of damage so even though boys were constantly smashing the doors the first door wouldn't come off the hinge until the end of first term (versus within the first week, which was the damage rate before faculty started the sign swap system).
There was one year where in Term 4 we had a row of porta-pottys because some one's dad owned a shitter company and that was cheaper than fixing the real bathrooms.
I don't know why those degenerates were breaking the bathrooms knowing they'd be stuck pissing with the normal door... Why they couldn't just set fire to the grass behind the woodshop like normal delinquents. Grass grows back for free.
I work at a community education centre now, and the soap dispensers appear to be what everyone likes destroying these days.
We can't afford to replace them so we currently have bottles of hand soap tied to the taps with string that I replace every other day.
Also I've had to put signs up reminding teenagers that poo particles from flushing will land on every surface in a bathroom, so stop kissing the mirrors.
Kids slamming bathroom stall doors and kicking them with their feet seems to be pretty common from my vague memories.
Curtain rods and opaque shower curtains it is then. The more they get stolen the more kid like they get replaced with until they have to shit looking at Dora the Explorer.
It only just occurred to me that bathroom stalls in the schools almost never have any marketing on them like they do at shopping centres, ours certainly don't.
Which isn't weird, (obviously don't want corporate marketing into schools) but at home you hang stuff in your bathroom when you have kids- map of the world, vexology poster, dinosaur poster, etc, and I'm always trying to find a way to force my students to actually look at the term calendar in advance instead of being suprised that there's a scheduled assessment today.
I'm replacing the soap in the bathrooms every day, how has it never occurred to me to slap a poster on the back of the door so the students have something to look at, I've got so many posters with no wall space too!
That's a pretty awesome idea. Just know that it's going to get defaced so you'll likely have to replace it every now and then.
These posters are destined for the recycling bin (they're the old ones from the main classroom) so if anything it might reduce damage to other things if people are defacing the poster instead.
though in saying that, we don't have a tagging issue at our centre - I've rarely had to remove graffiti from toilets, it's only the soap dispensers that keep getting messed with here, but ripping the posters is also fine, if it makes someone less tempted to rip the soap off the wall.
Well that's cool, I like seeing educators this involved.
It helps that I work in community ed, there are 5 people on our entire faculty, so we litteraly all do a little bit of every job there is to do at an education centre.
My payslips look hilarious because I get paid 8 different rates per week depending on what I'm actually doing, admin, custodial, teaching, etc.
But this is the style of chaotic yet whole-ass-in education that drives me. I would quickly burn out at a more structured school-based workplace.
During that TikTok toilet stealing thing that happened, the schools here removed all the stall doors.
They go on and on about how they don't want the dangerous transgenders in the bathroom, but now anyone can peek in to confirm... What, exactly? It's not like the windows are in the stalls, so just for them assume someone gender? "You look too feminine, no boys room for you. Sorry, too masculine, no ladies room." What's next, strip searches? Wtf is it with them and the bathroom...
Hardly "what's next". This has been a fixation by conservatives since since the Obama Administration
Longer than that, even! Circa 2003/04 my 14 year old ass was getting chewed out by shitty Karens because they couldn't fathom the idea of a young teen girl sporting a pixie cut and wearing baggy metal tees, skate jeans and vans. I've actually resorted - more than once - to showing my used menstrual products as proof. Well, more as a way to harass them back, but. You know.
Joke's on me, though, I guess, since I'm actually genderfluid lol.
That's metal.
They really love people's gentials. The younger the genital, the better.
It's to ensure people remain on the outside and excluded.
If someone's preferred bathroom in the men's room, but they are forbidden from using it, they have a special bathroom to use. However we can't have them privately using a bathroom. We have to put them on display. EVERYONE needs to know they are different. The goal is to exclude, the goal is to make them feel different, the goal is hate. It's disgusting.
As students, hopefully, they just start to use the bathroom normally. If all students use it, then it's not weird. Now that's unfair to push on middle school students. But it's an option.
Fucking VOTE you dumb sons of bitches!
This won't help much, hard to tell much just by someone's face. What we need here is a window specifically for viewing the children's genitalia. And then we need a dedicated monitor to watch all the children use the bathroom.
John, the repressed religious fundamentalist, has already volunteered. We've designed a room where he can monitor the genitalia from the holes we've cut, and we've also installed cameras inside the urinals and toilets with a feed that goes to the monitoring room, in case anyone tries to defeat our system.
The monitoring room has no windows or cameras in it, and the door locks from the inside, so, I think we've finally solved the problem. Consider the liberals owned!
What fucking law firm approved this? Must be one Trump uses. Because letting people look in on underage kids in the bathroom must be unconstitutional not to mention illegal? If that was going on in my kids school I be suing.
So, we've created the Toilet Safety Administration. Wonderful.
Wow that's a pretty disgusting clip even for Southpark
Disgusting? Yes.
Accurate? Also yes, unfortunately.
i think we should probably take a page out of the book of "historical chinese cuisine" and cook dumplings in the piss of young boys or whatever the fuck that one thing they do is.
not /s, (well aside from my satire)
I'll pass thanks
fair enough
Seriously though, what the actual goddamned fuck.
Gorilla glue and posters. Repeat Ad nauseum.
That's weird as hell.
Sorry isn't "gender identity" the most common public restroom type in America, and also the opposite of the one they're concerned about? They aren't putting windows in the boys' room or the girls' room, which are segregated by gender. These are the gender neutral restrooms that they want to peek into (or really, discourage anyone from using). Up is down with these people.
Edit: Wait, I just looked at the picture again. The caption says gender neutral, but the actual signage on the restroom says "Boys" and then below that "Gender Inclusive" and I'm not sure how those two things go together.
Time to retrofit some staff bathrooms and save them 18k doing it themselves
The only way to stop a bad guy with a window in your child's bathroom to watch them pee, is a good guy with a window in your child's bathroom to watch them pee
so they can watch kids defecate? what is wrong with these inbred fuckups?
Well no, they're monitoring who is using the bathroom. It's 100% just so they can make lists and check them twice to number who's naughty who's nice.
Ed: to be cheese I don't agree and this is dumb but I do love a dumb rhyme
Looking at Children Pee is NOT what Pedophiles do! Pedophiles are the ones NOT Looking at Children's Genitals!
They are out of their minds
Does $9,000 seem a bit low for the cost of adding windows to all the relevant restrooms in a school district?
Eh. Sawzall through cinder-block, pre-built window and frame, some caulk. Sure.
Better not be any of that in the GIRL'S bathroom!!
not completely on topic but here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6c4Nupnup0
It looks like the district has 6 schools, not sure how many of these bathrooms are in each school, but I'm going to assume they're probably only adding one of each gender identity bathroom per school, or 2 each, 3 if we count the unisex bathrooms.
I have no real frame of reference for what kind of windows they're installing, so I'm not sure how much they cost, and of course windows can get as expensive as you care to spend. But after perusing home Depots website, let's just say $500 a pop for materials.
Depending on how competent their district maintenance personnel are, they may be able to install it themselves and not need to bring in contractors, pay for overtime, etc so esentially free installation.
6 schools × 3 bathrooms × $500 per window does come out too $9000 on the dot.
Don't know how accurate my estimates and assumptions are, but it's potentially within the realm of possibility
I'd love to invite a board member to urinate into a jar in the middle of a meeting since that should be perfectly acceptable.
I'm sure they'll all run to the jar like some halfwit version of political saw...
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No.
NO.
Passers-by.
Yes. That's the one that is valid at all.
I prefer to have open bathrooms. The only secure room is the stall itself (along the wall) and once you’re done, you step out to the bank of handwashing stations across from the stalls in the open. You’re never IN the bathroom with others as it’s out in the open.
There are always gaps in the doors. You can clearly see in the stall from that cut out.
Never been to Europe, I see.
It's entirely possible to have floor to ceiling doors for bathroom privacy, you see it plenty in Europe. That being said, gaps in stalks have always been weird to me. I don't need anyone trying to figure out who is taking a dump through the gap
Oh I know it's only an American thing. It's so weird.
Iirc it's because of the American fire code. If it's a complete door, it's a "room" and needs a fire detector/sprinkler. Too expensive.
The bottom gap is because of ADA's toe space requirements. The top gap is because less material thus cheaper.
That doesn't make any sense. Why are there gaps in the huge disabled-access stall doors then?
https://www.ada.gov/law-and-regs/design-standards/2010-stds/
Uniformity? I have no idea. Just its why its there for others at the very least.
That seems to be what they are going for here. Instead of using the space as one shared restroom with a hand washing station and 4 stalls, they are converting it into 4 private restrooms, with a shared hand washing station in a "public area" outside the restrooms.
So long as they build actual walls and use actual doors on the
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