It’s laughable that he came out today condemning these threats after supporting an insurrection that got multiple people killed.
It’s absolutely insane that he is even allowed to still be in office let alone run for speaker of the house.
His condemnation is as vague as can be. It doesnt at all reference that its inner party threats, doesnt say anything about why they are happening or who they are happening to:
No American should accost another for their beliefs. We condemn all threats against our colleagues and it is imperative that we come together. Stop. It’s abhorrent.”
The man ginned up his violent supporters to specifically threaten his GOP coworkers to get in line or else, and he wont even tell them directly to stop.
Just a nothing statement that makes sure it doesnt say fucking anything while it gestures vaguely at the topic.
For the record, it’s perfectly justifiable to accost Nazis for their beliefs.
Gym Jordan is an insurrectionist and a traitor to the Republic. He should be treated as such.
also as an apologist for groomers. I mean, it's almost like the republican mantra is "Protect the kids so we can rape them!"
Matt Gaetz is his biggest fan.
If 9 people are sitting at a table with 1 Nazi, how many Nazis are sitting at the table?
I mean, maybe you shouldn't have let the rhetoric of your party devolve to this point? Maybe you all shouldn't have normalized abuse and violence against elected officials?
Republicans really have no one to blame for this than themselves.
"When I voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party, I didn't think they would eat MY face!"
We have the Herman Cain Award, now I think we should create the Mike Pence Award.
They courted the crazy vote, only now there are true believers actually elected, and turns out that just screaming into the void and blaming everyone else doesn't actually make you a good politician
“Ninety-six percent of the votes came from Democrats,” Scott said. “So, Brianna, I mean, just factually speaking, there were only eight Republicans and there were 208 Democrats [who voted to oust McCarthy].” To this, Keilar responded, “But, sir, who’s in the majority?” Incredibly, Scott’s answer was, “Well, the Democrats were the majority of that vote.”
Be me
GOP
Unleased chaos and craziness to gain power
Got engulfed in the chaos and craziness
No way to put this insane genie back in bottle
MFW
Find em, lock em up.
Every MAGA that can no longer vote is one more step away from #fascism.
Now THAT's a dangerous precedent to set. We shouldn't persecute people for voting for a terrible party. That's literally fascism. Instead, persecute them for their criminal activity. That should be easy enough.
I think they’re referring to the death threat people.
They let the lunatics take hold of their party during MAGAism and now they face real consequences. No sympathy. We have to stamp out domestic terrorists and would-be terrorists. These shitheads need to be charged for threatening to kill people.
This was coming way before Trump entered the picture. Rush Limbaugh in the 90's, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly during the Bush years (and everything involving Dock Cheney), and the Tea Party movement all were pushing to get us here.
I've heard it argued this goes all the way back to a mistake at the end of the civil war when confederates weren't deported. Not sure how true that is but it seems like there's a plausible thread.
Andrew Johnson was soft on slavers and their sympathizers.
Is it okay to call them fascists now? Just wondering.
Always was.
It was wild to me that none of the conservatives I know connected the dots. If the person is railing against the anti fascists...... what the fuck are they?
well obviously anti-fa are deep state operatives controlled by HH (Hillary and Hunter),so therefore they are the actual fascists and they also faked a trump rally on Jan 6 and tried to overturn the election in favor of trump.
Maybe not always (This "always" depends very much on your age). Basically, Republican move downhill from a normal party to a fascist MAGA-head group started with Nixon, and got accellerated with Reagan. But most people nowadays don't even remember the times when the GOP had been a normal party capable of doing politics with Democrats and the people, and not just against them.
I'll do you one better. Joe McCarthy was the one who started American conservatism down the road of extremism and paranoid conspiracy theories instead of policy.
I'd love to think maybe being on the receiving end of the GQP/MAGA cult will wake them up but it's hard to imagine them growing a spine even for this
That's the Faustian bargain they made with Fox News: get a diehard base of crazies whipped into a frothy rage. The GOP is now held to the most radical purity standards partially because that outrage is exactly what draws in viewers.
Couldn't have happened to a scummier bag of assholes.
Republicans are soft on terrorists.
Republicans are soft on terrorists.
Soft on white terrorists.
Republicans are soft white terrorists.
First thing, who the hell has the phone numbers of the wives and families of the holdouts? To me, targeting that precise indicates that the person behind the threats is a political insider at the very least, if not tied directly to Jim Jordan. I don't know why the reps receiving these threats aren't demanding an investigation about who's behind them. I damn well know I'd be looking for the head of anyone who threatened my kids on a pike, and to me these reps not willing to do the same for their own families is an act of cowardice.
But with that aside, this is all a very entertaining episode of "Leopards ate my face!". Tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode where Marjorie Taylor Greene refocuses her space lazer on Ohio, Matt Gaetz sees a picture of the middle school student who was threatened and gets excited, and Lauren Boebert whips out something completely unexpected.
Whitepages.com. Seriously, that's all you need. They automatically have your address, name, phone number, spouse/relatives, etc. You have to specifically ask them to delist you by contacting their support and verifying identity.
Spoofing caller ID is pretty easy.
Any licensed attorney can look this stuff up.
These people are Nazis. They want fascism and they will kill to get it. They will certainly run some people searches from some two-bit lawyer's office.
I very seriously doubt a licensed attorney is behind making multiple death threats to multiple representatives and their families. They'd be facing disbarment, hefty fines, and a significant amount of jail time. I mean it's certainly possible, just like anything else. But the chances would be highly unlikely. Plus, remember that we're talking about multiple targets. I very seriously doubt that a random lawyer would have the contact information of multiple government officials just laying around somewhere, and I have trouble believing even the most accomplished laywer would be able to put this together and coordinate everything in under a day. Given the time period we're talking about and who was targetted, I'm much more inclined to believe that whoever started this already had that information ready to go, and who is most likely to have the contact information of multiple GOP representatives and their families on speed dial? One of their colleagues. And given the support was 100% in favor of Jordan, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out which one of those colleagues it is.
I don't think responsible for making the threats, but maybe for finding the names and phone numbers.
I don't know why the reps receiving these threats aren't demanding an investigation about who's behind them.
Are they not?
I have not heard of any indication that there's an investigation being launched.
It could be an insider, but it's also not hard to find that sort of information about a public figure.
The figures themselves? Yes. Their wives and families though? I would think that would be a bit harder.
That, and this all happened over the course of, what, a day? An awful lot of people were specifically targetted and threatened in a very short period of time. We're talking hours here. Maybe a single day. I have a lot of trouble believing attacks that were this numerous and this targeted over such a short period of time was the work of internet randos.
If we were talking about a period of several weeks or even days, sure. But when that many people receive that many death threats over such a short period of time, that's not (to me) the work of random people. It's a coordinated attack from someone who had the information of multiple families already on hand.
You’re naive or uninformed then.
In two minutes from my phone I found his phone number and personal email, two personal phone numbers for his wife, one is a landline, her personal email address along with the names and contact information for their kids. Their current and prior addresses. All of their ages, birthdays, aliases and neighbors. If someone was persistent and felt like spending an hour to put together profiles for them I have no doubt they could plant a very clear picture of everything they would want for whatever they are after. I was going to post links and screenshots but I don’t think that would be appropriate and as much as I don’t like him I don’t agree with the actions. You can accomplish a lot with OSINT profiling, be it people, organizations, whatever really. Nobody that has any idea what they are doing isn’t going to do recon ahead of time. Obviously using more secure methods than a simple fingerprinted google search but I was just doing it to verify I could and without any malicious intent I would need to cover my tracks for.
No, it really is way easier than you think. A day is more than enough time, especially if it's done by a group of people connected on Discord or something, which it almost certainly was.
"Party that normalizes political violence shocked to be victim of political violence"
"the bed that I shat in has shit in it"
What is it about Republicans that make them rally so fiercely around the shittiest candidates known to mankind? It's one thing to give lukewarm support for a shitty candidate because the alternative is even worse, but they go frothing at the mouth crazy over the absolute worst representatives of humanity.
Propaganda is a hell of a drug :(
The House will hold another vote for Speaker at 10 a.m. ET tomorrow, Punchbowl News reports.
it will be the third time that Rep. Jim Jordan’s (R-OH) candidacy is considered.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
GOP has very obviously fallen to fascists.
Oh no. That's just unfortunate
Anyway
They made this shit-bed, now they have to lie in it.
"If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas." - Benjamin Franklin
And here we see what happens when the man who rides a tiger attempts to dismount.
"I didn't think the leopards would eat my face"
This is the most purest form right before an actual leapord eating someone's face.
From the very group of Republican supporters that voted them into congress. Go figure, "representatives", what kind of creatures you represent...
This can all be cured by....A Masked Speaker.
What a bunch of pussies lol
I’m sure Jeffries is looking pretty good to them right now.
If they're getting death threats just for not backing Gym, imagine what would happen if they turned around and voted for a Democrat
More death threats, I’d assume, but at least they wouldn’t be siding with terrorists.
Oh yeah, I'd take Jim Jeffries over Jim Jordan any day.
Do you mean Jim Jefferies? I’d take him over Jordan too.
Yeah, I was feeling lazy and gambled on the spelling, lol. You get it though!
Huh maybe this is why he had a reversal on dropping out.
"Wait I can send death threats to all my colleagues to make them vote for me!"
their lives are defined by cowardice, it's only natural
It's as if there's organized crime here
Thoughts and prayers
What an incredible coincidence!
I literally never heard of this dude before this week and have no idea why he's in the news so much. All I know is he has two first names and that's stupid.
If you followed politics a decade ago or more you would know that this guy covered for pedophiles abusing children at a university and for some reason Republicans just still love him.
you should pay attention more, he is a powerful politician that follows in Trumps footsteps and wants to make the US a purely Christian state
Why should we pay attention to US politics when we don't even live in the US?
I'll complain once you guys invade yet an other sovereign nation.
You are replying to a US Politics thread. Are you really that aloof?
"Aloof" is a kind way to put it.
He's in the news so much because he's the Republican pick for Speaker of the House except they can't get enough votes for him.
There's a lot to know about him- like his sycophantic brown nosing of Trump and his involvement with January 6th, but probably most importantly, he was fully aware that a doctor assigned to a college wrestling team was sexually abusing the wrestlers and did absolutely nothing about it. Then he pressured witnesses who were testifying against the doctor and the Ohio State. Hence the nickname Gym Jordan.
They really know how to pick real winners.
To be a card carrying Republican is to possess a non-zero amount of hatred in your heart for others. Conservatism by definition means you believe that certain people are simply "better" than others. Republicans are all ghouls. How many Republican politicians have been sex offenders?
You're posting in a political sub fyi.
Your point?
I feel like this is for publicity, there were no death threats, and they want to feel like they are doing the country a great service by voting no on his nomination. I mean, they are, technically, but that bar is so low it's nearly resting on the ground already.
Well yeah, Israel is an apartheid state in the middle of doing genocide. It wouldn’t be the first time they did a war crime.
The call is coming from inside the House
It’s laughable that he came out today condemning these threats after supporting an insurrection that got multiple people killed.
It’s absolutely insane that he is even allowed to still be in office let alone run for speaker of the house.
His condemnation is as vague as can be. It doesnt at all reference that its inner party threats, doesnt say anything about why they are happening or who they are happening to:
The man ginned up his violent supporters to specifically threaten his GOP coworkers to get in line or else, and he wont even tell them directly to stop.
Just a nothing statement that makes sure it doesnt say fucking anything while it gestures vaguely at the topic.
For the record, it’s perfectly justifiable to accost Nazis for their beliefs.
I'm frankly surprised he didn't blame it on Antifa
Gym Jordan is an insurrectionist and a traitor to the Republic. He should be treated as such.
also as an apologist for groomers. I mean, it's almost like the republican mantra is "Protect the kids so we can rape them!"
Matt Gaetz is his biggest fan.
If 9 people are sitting at a table with 1 Nazi, how many Nazis are sitting at the table?
I mean, maybe you shouldn't have let the rhetoric of your party devolve to this point? Maybe you all shouldn't have normalized abuse and violence against elected officials?
Republicans really have no one to blame for this than themselves.
"When I voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party, I didn't think they would eat MY face!"
We have the Herman Cain Award, now I think we should create the Mike Pence Award.
They courted the crazy vote, only now there are true believers actually elected, and turns out that just screaming into the void and blaming everyone else doesn't actually make you a good politician
Srill they will try to blame democrats.
Its already happening https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/10/republicans-blame-democrats-for-speaker-vote
Find em, lock em up.
Every MAGA that can no longer vote is one more step away from #fascism.
Now THAT's a dangerous precedent to set. We shouldn't persecute people for voting for a terrible party. That's literally fascism. Instead, persecute them for their criminal activity. That should be easy enough.
I think they’re referring to the death threat people.
Persecute or prosecute?
They let the lunatics take hold of their party during MAGAism and now they face real consequences. No sympathy. We have to stamp out domestic terrorists and would-be terrorists. These shitheads need to be charged for threatening to kill people.
This was coming way before Trump entered the picture. Rush Limbaugh in the 90's, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly during the Bush years (and everything involving Dock Cheney), and the Tea Party movement all were pushing to get us here.
I've heard it argued this goes all the way back to a mistake at the end of the civil war when confederates weren't deported. Not sure how true that is but it seems like there's a plausible thread.
Andrew Johnson was soft on slavers and their sympathizers.
Sounds like these Republicans are learning what Trump did in 2021. Remember when he went to one of his rallies and told his crowd of dullards to get vaccinated and they booed him for it? And remember how immediately afterwards he and his campaign quietly stopped taking credit for the COVID vaccine? The MAGA crowd have no real loyalties. They will turn on you if you don't fall in line.
Is it okay to call them fascists now? Just wondering.
Always was.
It was wild to me that none of the conservatives I know connected the dots. If the person is railing against the anti fascists...... what the fuck are they?
well obviously anti-fa are deep state operatives controlled by HH (Hillary and Hunter),so therefore they are the actual fascists and they also faked a trump rally on Jan 6 and tried to overturn the election in favor of trump.
Maybe not always (This "always" depends very much on your age). Basically, Republican move downhill from a normal party to a fascist MAGA-head group started with Nixon, and got accellerated with Reagan. But most people nowadays don't even remember the times when the GOP had been a normal party capable of doing politics with Democrats and the people, and not just against them.
I'll do you one better. Joe McCarthy was the one who started American conservatism down the road of extremism and paranoid conspiracy theories instead of policy.
You are not wrong here.
I'd love to think maybe being on the receiving end of the GQP/MAGA cult will wake them up but it's hard to imagine them growing a spine even for this
That's the Faustian bargain they made with Fox News: get a diehard base of crazies whipped into a frothy rage. The GOP is now held to the most radical purity standards partially because that outrage is exactly what draws in viewers.
Couldn't have happened to a scummier bag of assholes.
Republicans are soft on terrorists.
Soft on white terrorists.
Republicans are soft white terrorists.
First thing, who the hell has the phone numbers of the wives and families of the holdouts? To me, targeting that precise indicates that the person behind the threats is a political insider at the very least, if not tied directly to Jim Jordan. I don't know why the reps receiving these threats aren't demanding an investigation about who's behind them. I damn well know I'd be looking for the head of anyone who threatened my kids on a pike, and to me these reps not willing to do the same for their own families is an act of cowardice.
But with that aside, this is all a very entertaining episode of "Leopards ate my face!". Tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode where Marjorie Taylor Greene refocuses her space lazer on Ohio, Matt Gaetz sees a picture of the middle school student who was threatened and gets excited, and Lauren Boebert whips out something completely unexpected.
Whitepages.com. Seriously, that's all you need. They automatically have your address, name, phone number, spouse/relatives, etc. You have to specifically ask them to delist you by contacting their support and verifying identity.
Spoofing caller ID is pretty easy.
Any licensed attorney can look this stuff up.
These people are Nazis. They want fascism and they will kill to get it. They will certainly run some people searches from some two-bit lawyer's office.
I very seriously doubt a licensed attorney is behind making multiple death threats to multiple representatives and their families. They'd be facing disbarment, hefty fines, and a significant amount of jail time. I mean it's certainly possible, just like anything else. But the chances would be highly unlikely. Plus, remember that we're talking about multiple targets. I very seriously doubt that a random lawyer would have the contact information of multiple government officials just laying around somewhere, and I have trouble believing even the most accomplished laywer would be able to put this together and coordinate everything in under a day. Given the time period we're talking about and who was targetted, I'm much more inclined to believe that whoever started this already had that information ready to go, and who is most likely to have the contact information of multiple GOP representatives and their families on speed dial? One of their colleagues. And given the support was 100% in favor of Jordan, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out which one of those colleagues it is.
I don't think responsible for making the threats, but maybe for finding the names and phone numbers.
Are they not?
I have not heard of any indication that there's an investigation being launched.
It could be an insider, but it's also not hard to find that sort of information about a public figure.
The figures themselves? Yes. Their wives and families though? I would think that would be a bit harder.
That, and this all happened over the course of, what, a day? An awful lot of people were specifically targetted and threatened in a very short period of time. We're talking hours here. Maybe a single day. I have a lot of trouble believing attacks that were this numerous and this targeted over such a short period of time was the work of internet randos.
If we were talking about a period of several weeks or even days, sure. But when that many people receive that many death threats over such a short period of time, that's not (to me) the work of random people. It's a coordinated attack from someone who had the information of multiple families already on hand.
You’re naive or uninformed then.
In two minutes from my phone I found his phone number and personal email, two personal phone numbers for his wife, one is a landline, her personal email address along with the names and contact information for their kids. Their current and prior addresses. All of their ages, birthdays, aliases and neighbors. If someone was persistent and felt like spending an hour to put together profiles for them I have no doubt they could plant a very clear picture of everything they would want for whatever they are after. I was going to post links and screenshots but I don’t think that would be appropriate and as much as I don’t like him I don’t agree with the actions. You can accomplish a lot with OSINT profiling, be it people, organizations, whatever really. Nobody that has any idea what they are doing isn’t going to do recon ahead of time. Obviously using more secure methods than a simple fingerprinted google search but I was just doing it to verify I could and without any malicious intent I would need to cover my tracks for.
No, it really is way easier than you think. A day is more than enough time, especially if it's done by a group of people connected on Discord or something, which it almost certainly was.
Getting that information is child's play. It's way easier than you appreciate.
"Party that normalizes political violence shocked to be victim of political violence"
"the bed that I shat in has shit in it"
What is it about Republicans that make them rally so fiercely around the shittiest candidates known to mankind? It's one thing to give lukewarm support for a shitty candidate because the alternative is even worse, but they go frothing at the mouth crazy over the absolute worst representatives of humanity.
Propaganda is a hell of a drug :(
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
GOP has very obviously fallen to fascists.
Oh no. That's just unfortunate
Anyway
They made this shit-bed, now they have to lie in it.
"If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas." - Benjamin Franklin
And here we see what happens when the man who rides a tiger attempts to dismount.
"I didn't think the leopards would eat my face"
This is the most purest form right before an actual leapord eating someone's face.
From the very group of Republican supporters that voted them into congress. Go figure, "representatives", what kind of creatures you represent...
This can all be cured by....A Masked Speaker.
What a bunch of pussies lol
I’m sure Jeffries is looking pretty good to them right now.
If they're getting death threats just for not backing Gym, imagine what would happen if they turned around and voted for a Democrat
More death threats, I’d assume, but at least they wouldn’t be siding with terrorists.
Oh yeah, I'd take Jim Jeffries over Jim Jordan any day.
Do you mean Jim Jefferies? I’d take him over Jordan too.
Yeah, I was feeling lazy and gambled on the spelling, lol. You get it though!
Huh maybe this is why he had a reversal on dropping out.
"Wait I can send death threats to all my colleagues to make them vote for me!"
Even more people vote against him
Surprised Pikachu face
their lives are defined by cowardice, it's only natural
It's as if there's organized crime here
Thoughts and prayers
What an incredible coincidence!
I literally never heard of this dude before this week and have no idea why he's in the news so much. All I know is he has two first names and that's stupid.
If you followed politics a decade ago or more you would know that this guy covered for pedophiles abusing children at a university and for some reason Republicans just still love him.
you should pay attention more, he is a powerful politician that follows in Trumps footsteps and wants to make the US a purely Christian state
Why should we pay attention to US politics when we don't even live in the US?
I'll complain once you guys invade yet an other sovereign nation.
You are replying to a US Politics thread. Are you really that aloof?
"Aloof" is a kind way to put it.
He's in the news so much because he's the Republican pick for Speaker of the House except they can't get enough votes for him.
There's a lot to know about him- like his sycophantic brown nosing of Trump and his involvement with January 6th, but probably most importantly, he was fully aware that a doctor assigned to a college wrestling team was sexually abusing the wrestlers and did absolutely nothing about it. Then he pressured witnesses who were testifying against the doctor and the Ohio State. Hence the nickname Gym Jordan.
They really know how to pick real winners.
To be a card carrying Republican is to possess a non-zero amount of hatred in your heart for others. Conservatism by definition means you believe that certain people are simply "better" than others. Republicans are all ghouls. How many Republican politicians have been sex offenders?
You're posting in a political sub fyi.
Your point?
I feel like this is for publicity, there were no death threats, and they want to feel like they are doing the country a great service by voting no on his nomination. I mean, they are, technically, but that bar is so low it's nearly resting on the ground already.
Well yeah, Israel is an apartheid state in the middle of doing genocide. It wouldn’t be the first time they did a war crime.
Bad rage bot
I think you posted this to the wrong thread.
Lmao yeah I did