Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker bashes Pride Month, tells women to stay in the kitchen

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Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker bashes Pride Month, tells women to stay in the kitchen

touchdownwire.usatoday.com

Seems like someone deleted this after it got posted, so let’s call out this piece of shit. Apologies if repost.

“I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolic lies told to you. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world…”

The worst part is that he was saying this to a bunch of women who just graduated with degrees. He’s basically telling them all to give up after putting in 4+ years of work. This guy is a total shit bag.

It's a football meathead speaking his dumb meathead thoughts, just garbage to toss out basically. Sad that his dumb thoughts were published though. Outrage journalism has lowered the bar for society pretty significantly.

Blaming journalism for reporting what this guy said at a graduation ceremony is fucking hilarious and tone deaf.

"If people wanted you to write warmly about them , they should've behaved better"

Being a meathead isn't an excuse; behave better. That includes people who make excuses for people who behave poorly.

2 things can be wrong at once you know. Nothing I said is an excuse for the meatheads dumb and wrong words. You misunderstood what I said.

It is also bad that his dumb words were published and shared.

"If it were not for football, I would not be playing football today..." - H. Butker

And accruing financial debt. But you can make that go away by baking cookies for your family and preparing a nice dinner for your husband.

It’ll all be good after you marry a high performing NFL kicker and don’t need two incomes.

A bunch of conservative Catholic women who gave him a standing ovation. Because, you know, you're completely misrepresenting what he said and don't actually understand that not everyone in this country agrees with your worldview.

Also, you people are literally incapable of reading with basic comprehension. There is literally no way to read his comments and arrive at the conclusion that he was telling anyone to "give up" on a career.

This guy grew up around me. Truly a bible thumping idiot. And a catholic to boot. How they can honestly believe they have a moral leg to stand on while supporting that church is ironic to the peak. Get fucked Butker

I’m so confused by the super fundie catholics. I grew up in New England and was raised Catholic, even went to Catholic school for a bit, and never got any of that “barefoot and pregnant” in teachings or sermons. The church always had awful stances on abortion, birth control, divorce and homosexuality but pretty much everyone just glossed over or ignored it. And there really wasn’t anyone pushing that shit. Like you never heard anti gay or any abortion stuff in church or in school. I wonder if the church adapts to the local region? Like how McDonalds sells wine in France? Or maybe the American dioceses all got infiltrated by super right wing priests?

It might be regional. Seems like the catholics in the south ignore the whole child rape thing too. I have family who married into that religion unfortunately and their spouse was actually surprised when I brought it up, like he’d never heard about it before I mentioned it

Yeah. Back east folks are hyper aware of the child rape fuckery and are salty AF about it.

The Catholic bishops in the Northeast have all been cowed by bullying liberals into downplaying and ignoring Church teachings in order to be more appealing. This is why it's lost so many Catholics, such as yourself, to the world. You have no understanding of actual Catholic teaching, and have embraced the godless degeneracy of the modern world. This is not your fault, it's the Church's fault.

Is that why that priest in Wisconsin was calling for the Pope’s death? Is the Pope cowed by NE US liberals and ignorant of actual Catholic teachings?

Would one need to follow the Texas bishop who got removed, in order to get actual Catholic teachings?

When you presume that I have “no understanding of actual Catholic teachings”, is that solely based on my ignorance of the conservative and fundamentalist US parishes?

It’s too bad you chose to comment on my beliefs in such a condescending manner. We could have had an interesting conversation if you were more civil.

https://www.newsweek.com/priest-calls-pope-francis-killed-likens-him-devil-1836438

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/pope-fancis-joseph-strickland-removed-conservative-texas-bishop-catholic-church/

You progressives are forcing an ideology onto children that was literally developed by a pedophile to justify pedophilia. Queer theory, which underlies the entire gender ideology that you have confused with "morality," was developed by Michel Foucault as a means of challenging the norms around pederasty, because he wanted to have sex with young boys.

How do you think you have a moral leg to stand on? You people don't even believe in morality! You literally think morality is just a subjective social construction that has no objective basis.

"Man who kicks ball well has stupid opinion, we printed it to ruffle your jimmies."

Fixed the headline there.

We live in a World were, still (one would expect they should have learned by now) many if not most people listen to the opinions of people about things they're not at all experts in (such as sports-people, actors and so on) because they're "celebrities".

Working in a profession which just so happens to be done publicly for an audience does not make one's take on things outside that profession be any higher quality that those of any other random person.

By the way, it's quite irrelevant if their opinion aligns or not with one's own: the informational value of what they think is still zero.

One of my favorite quotes is "opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one and they all stink."

Adide from the WTF factor, imagine being the most easily replaceable member of the team and saying literally anything divisive at all. Like bruh you ain't the QB, you can be gone end of the season and thats it, no one gonna look twice at you. You're a step above the guy in the mascot suit.

NFL kicker has to be a really weirdly rough job. You don't really do much work during the game and have far less risk of violent physical contact, but you have to practice your ass off outside the game because the kicking game has little margin for error. Your role is absolutely critical and can easily decide the outcome of almost every game, but nobody respects you and almost nobody knows your name unless you fuck up real bad. I used to be a huge NFL nerd but can only name three kickers: Pat McAfee because he's a TV personality now, Sebastion Janikowski because of his name and how rotund he was, and Ray Finkle who isn't even a real person just a movie kicker. I can't even remember the name of the Hall of Fame kicker for the Pats and Colts who won many Super Bowls.

And yeah, nobody will give a shit if this shitstain goes away. Will the NFL, well-known for their respect for human rights and progressive views, actually do anything about it, though?

Goddamnit, I almost blew water out of my nose when I got to Ray Finkle.

Adam Vinatieri

Thank you, that was bugging me.... just not enough to actually search it myself.

Pat McAfee was a punter, but yeah a kicker is like being a ref: if you know their name it usually means they did bad.

I believe they prefer to go by Lois Einhorn now.

Eddie Murray was the top point scorer for the Lions for the entirety of the 80's. Growing up in Michigan during that decade, he and Barry Sanders (90's) are the only Lions I can remember.

Maybe that's just a really specific circumstance of a great kicker on a shit team, but I think he was pretty respected.

The kicker is normally the highest scoring player on the team, they really are weirdly underappreciated.

Wow, I only knew Ray Finkle and had never had any idea whether he was fictional.

Hey. The guy in the mascot suit actually works for his check. This fuckstick is lower on the roster than the towel boy, and seems even less intelligent than the orange water cooler.

no reason to put down kickers because of butker. its probably the most mentally tough job in the league

blair walsh went from all star record breaking kicker to not even in the league anymore all because of 1 single missed kick

Then the Seahawks had to sign him under the official NFL 'you break it, you bought it' clause.

i still remember walsh taunting zimmer after making a kick in the preseason 😂

The orange water coolers are semi-sapient so thst checks out.

They're part human‽ 🤫

No, just approaching near human intellect. Dont piss them off.

Oh, your god said we should do that? But my god is a super god times infinity and he says the opposite.

Just goes to show you that for every kid that is mature for their age, there's 100s of adults that never left the playground.

Our obsession with what celebrities think can really cause problems. There's really no reason to care what a guy like Butker thinks about social issues, other than maybe to feel sorry for his wife.

Millionaires and billionaires ..... our modern day logic is to think and believe that someone who owns or has access to enormous sums of money automatically gives them the title of "genius".

I suppose humanity has always been like that.

We called them Kings, Queens, Lords, Emperors in the past ...... we changed the titles but the blind praise is still the same.

While I agree with your sentiment.... millionaires and billionaires should not be lumped together. This conflation is actually a super useful tool for the billionaires (and mega millionaires) to use when convincing the middle and lower economic classes to vote in their favor.

Realistically, millionaire today basically just means homeowner. As ridiculous as it sounds, a million dollars is not an "enormous" sum of money in today's world.

Billionaire is something different entirely.

Better to say "super wealthy" or something like that.

Continuing from OP…

“I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say her life truly started when she started living her vocation as a wife and as a mother. I’m on this stage today, able to be the man that I am, because I have a wife who leans into her vocation.

“I’m beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me, but it cannot be overstated that all my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all. Homemaker.”

The many talents god gave him apparently don't include shoving his unsolicited opinions right up his Butker, unfortunately.

The cherry on the shit cake is he was blubbering during this part. Definitely a stable individual.

Fine, but you can't extrapolate from one woman to all of womankind. Does he think every man should play professional football?

He's not the one extrapolating from one woman to all of womankind, you are. He never once said that all women should become homemakers. You are taking his praise of his wife, which was meant to communicate to the audience that if you abandon your career for a family as his wife did, then you will probably be happy like his wife was. You people are so rabidly misogynistic and anti-family that you can't even comprehend what he said when you have the speech laid out in front of you. It's truly amazing how bad at reading comprehension you all are.

I MAKE MANY MONEY BY KICKY BROWN EGG 🏈 THEREFORE I SAY WOMEN = KITCHEN AND MAKE SANDWICH. I BIG SMART.

Real Ooga Booga hours

Christofascist scumbag.

I hope the Swifties go after him.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's not overreact here. There are only a few cases where wishing that upon a person is acceptable, and I'm not sure this qualifies as a war crime.

Lol. Is he the best that college could find to give a commencement speech? Says more about the college than this brain dead dingus.

FTA:

Butker recently delivered the commencement address at Benedictine College, a liberal arts institution in Atchison, Kansas. This is the same college that once forced out gay basketball player Jallen Messersmith to remove a rainbow flag from his dorm room window.

It would seem that Butker felt right at home.

So unfortunately, it seems like this might be what the college was going for.

Oh shit. Only thing I have to say is:

>Liberal arts institution

>"take that rainbow down"

Pick one

Thats not what liberal arts means... Liberal arts colleges require classes across multiple disciplines across the humanites and sciences, beleiveing a rounded education is beneficial to a hyper specific one.

I would say the pick one is more of "Liberal arts institution" and "rural Kansas".

Ugh, true enough. Lol.

Butker, a conservative Catholic himself, dismissed Pride month as consisting of the “deadly sin sort of pride” while denouncing abortion and President Joe Biden’s handling of the pandemic. He said women are told “diabolical lies” about career ambition when “one of the most important titles of all” is that of homemaker. He said this is not time for “the church of nice” and in particular blasted Catholics who support abortion rights and “dangerous gender ideologies.”

What a tool. But the school says:

The society seeks to differentiate schools that “refuse to compromise their Catholic mission” from those that have become “battlegrounds for today’s culture wars.”

Yet they invite this tool to speak and be part of those same culture wars.

https://apnews.com/article/catholic-college-conservative-commencement-harrison-butker-a40b881fe41ac489853fb67e58ed20d1

Just in case you think it's one right-wingnut school turning out students who attend because it suits their narrative:

Benedictine College’s Transforming Culture in America plan makes professional advancement for students a high priority, saying “Transforming Culture in America will require leaders in the workplace and public life who inspire others to be committed to living the Gospel.”

The “BC in D.C.” program was started specifically to help Benedictine College students gain experience in positions of power in our nation’s capital in order to further the Center for Constitutional Liberty’s mission to inspire, inform, and direct the next generation of America’s leaders.

https://media.benedictine.edu/bc-in-d-c-is-bringing-benedictine-values-to-capitol-hill

So there you have it, a religious school intent on inserting religious like-minded individuals into politics and influencing politics in the direction of individuals like Butker.

Aren't the majority of people in general more excited about family and relationships than about their careers? Most jobs nowadays aren't exactly inspiring.

Also you need the career unless you want your kids in absolute povety, which can lead them down some really dark places.

Elite projection is strong with this one. He thinks anyone can just afford to have kids and careers are something people have as a fun thing.

This is the point this dork is completely missing. Not everyone's spouse is an NFL player who makes 8 figures a year.

This dumb fucker's only skill is kicking a football

Which makes him an expert on sociological domestic issues, obviously.

It's not true for every player, of course, but I'm inclined to think he got into Georgia Tech through football recruitment, not academic qualifications.

Surely not Georgia Tech, a world leading institution in the study of..., ..., ummm..., tech-ish things?

Taken as a whole (i.e. not just the undergraduate football players getting Bachelors in the management program that is kept around partially so they will have something to study), it's a world class research institution, currently ranked 36 in the Times Higher Education table of world universities. For reference, it's ahead of schools like the London School of Economics, McGill, and the Sorbonne.

But this guy is an idiot and an ass.

Its not a bad school, my cousin went there and he's a very successful engineer. But he didn't go there for sports

You say that now, but imagine they got rid of the doping rule. Then it would be "this dumb fucker's only skill is kicking a football... two miles into the air."

I'm just saying, sports would be a lot more fun if everyone was an inhuman muscle monster.

Yeah, he's an asshole that makes a lot of money playing a kids game. Not new and not surprising.

He gets paid to take permanent brain damage. We shouldn't take anything he says seriously.

He's a kicker... He's not getting hit in the head, just an asshole.

Why do people feel the need to disparage athletics as "kid games"? Are adults not allowed to play games? Are people not allowed to be entertained by feats of strength? Are you just mad that it's not a "real job"?

Because they are soft, lazy, and weak geeks who have been envious and resentful of people with athletic talent their entire lives.

Hahaha. Even if there WERE lots of women who wanted to be homemakers, there is no way that a family can run on the average single income. So, somebody has been telling diabolical lies to him about the current economy.

You're saying that about a man who gets a lot of money to play a game he played in high school. I don't think he knows a lot about the job market.

About 50% of American families are single-income families, with half of those being single mothers and the other half being single-income, two-parent families. Single-income, two-parent families are found at every income bracket. The idea that it's impossible ("there is no way") is a myth.

And where do your stats come from? Do they account for the current cost of living crisis that's affecting the average person globally? Inflation? Where I am, living on a single income for a family means that you're likely either in the top 10% of wealth or you're struggling in poverty.

Additionally, your statement ignores that someone has gone to a university graduation ceremony and made derogatory remarks to the female students who've worked hard to get to where they are.

And where do your stats come from?

The Department of Labor.

Additionally, your statement ignores that someone has gone to a university graduation ceremony and made derogatory remarks to the female students who’ve worked hard to get to where they are.

That never happened. The media made that up and you swallowed it without actually using any critical thinking skills or reading his comments yourself. If he had made "derogatory comments" towards the women in that audience then he would not have received a standing ovation from those women. People don't give you a standing ovation for insulting them.

What a douchebag.

First part of his speech "Men should be present with their families and active in their communities" okay, yeah. Amen brother. "Women should be homemakers" oh goddammit Last part of his speech "be proud, not the sinful month of pride proud" FFS man, shoulda stopped at the first part.

He never said women should be homemakers.

Obviously paraphrased.

A complete idiot representing the group of people most diabolically lied to telling a group the former group hates most that they’re the most diabolically lied to is peak Nationalist Christian, and just as putrid.