Joe Rogan Praises ‘No-Nonsense’ Tucker Carlson, Predicts ‘He Could Win’ The Presidency in 2028

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Joe Rogan Praises ‘No-Nonsense’ Tucker Carlson, Predicts ‘He Could Win’ The Presidency in 2028
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What a meathead asshole Rogan is. Tucker too.

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are we ready to admit that Joe Rogan is basically just a right wing podcaster now or are we going to continue this stupid dance of "no he's just a centrist telling it like it is"

A 'centrist telling it like it is' always ends up being a right wing asshole lying about their intentions.

It's just like all those conservatives that "left" the GOP because they don't want to be associated with Trump and called racists. The problem is, they still all vote pure Republican down the ticket and support regressive and racist policies, so did they really leave the GOP, or are they just arguing in bad faith?

And actually, I'd argue that they're making the problem worse, because that leaves the GOP primaries in the hands of the nut jobs that like the way the party is headed...

I think the 'enlightened centrist' is born when an adult takes an interest in politics for the first time. It's natural for someone ignorant to see the extremes as scary. The problem is that the right is better prepared to guide this neophyte into reactionary politics without ever challenging the "centrist" identity. Politics in conservative spaces are never "right", "reactionary", or "regressive", they're just common-sense ideas, that everybody knows, and totally make sense when you think about it. (There's also a huge helping of edge-lord humor to desensitize the centrist to ideals that would be appalling if people weren't "being ironic". )

So as they drift farther and farther to the right, the only people to challenge the "neutral" identity are on the left, who appear to be attacking a reasonable person; with mainstream ideals; just asking questions.

This is where the "I don't always agree with the right, but the left are a bunch of crazy jerks" mantra comes from.

"Just asking questions"

Politics aside, of the few times I've heard him speak, he doesn't seem too smart.

Watch his episode with Bernie or Cornell West. Every sentence blows Rogan's mind because he's so stupid and has never thought of an issue for more than 0.003 seconds before reaching a conclusion.

Yeah, like I needed any more evidence to prove that Joe Rogan is a complete and utter fucking moron.

If I had a nickel for everytime a former reality TV host took an unexpected hard turn towards extremist right-wing views in the past decade, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice

former reality TV host

I'd forgotten all about Fear Factor until now. He's already ruined News Radio reruns for me.

He's the horse cum guy

I don't know why anyone takes what he says credibly, I recall even Joe Rogan commenting that he thought it was amazing people listen to him.

Nail in the coffin on this guy lmao what a fucking joke he turned out to be..

For shame, Joe Rogan, for shame sir..

I remember when Joe was a harmless idiot that had some fun.

Rather than a right wing crackpot.

I always thought it was weird when he said you needed to listen to all types of media like Fox as well as MSNBC. I was like, you can listen to neither of those things .... Let's not forget Fox got sued for libel/slander in the Dominion case as well. So it's not another opinion or side that Fox is on, it's outright propaganda.

I was into his clips on YouTube for a short while before corona and the Spotify deal. Even back then the algorithm decided to pipeline culture war bullshit into your feed in an attempt to radicalize you to alt right bullshit if you watched his clips.
When I was on Reddit I kept looking at his subreddit to amuse myself with the ignorant stupidity and the insecure overcompensating of the commenters.

I think there's value in being exposed to other media sources outside your circle but it's extremely tough to take Fox with anything less than a bucket of salt.

I occasionally see articles from them and they're poorly written, clearly leaving important parts out, and have random clearly biased editorial asides. Like "Joe Biden, who experts have heavily criticized" but never saying which experts or what criticism

I fucking hate that people are like FOX news or MSNBC, as though they are two sides of a coin.

MSNBC might be left leaning, but FOX is straight up crazy lies and bullshit.

It's like saying you could eat brussel sprouts or diarrhea. You know either or.....

Ugh. Joe Rogan is what dumb people think a smart person sounds like.

No. I refuse to believe anyone thinks he's smart. Funny, sure. "Open-minded," to let the brain fungus in more readily, sure.

Check out the Podcast Knowledge Fight. They've been going over Tucker Carlson's podcast...and holy fuck, Carlsons gone off the deepend. Now that he don't have a team of writers, you get to see this dingus's true colors, and trust me, they are dark.

Seconded. After hearing their specific breakdowns of his “show” it’s laughable even Rogan would make that kind of statement. Well who am I kidding? It’s fucking Rogan so nm

Hey, he definitely still has writers. They're on loan from Ms. Johnson's 8th grade creative writing class but... They're putting words on cue cards and that's what counts.

What are some examples of his true colours?

[Knowledge Fight] #816: Tucker, The Man And His Twitter- Episode 1 🅴 #knowledgeFight https://podcastaddict.com/knowledge-fight/episode/159086829 via @PodcastAddict

Check out the podcast. They go over Tuckers entire episode and break it down. Plus, it's just a fun listen.

His other episodes defend white supremacy, support Robert F Kenney Jr., and his most recent one attacks trans people.

I really want to listen to this pod, but my podcast time is usually for silly, fun things. Or maybe as serious as 99 invisible or Snap Judgement.

I'm glad this exists, but I'm never in a headspace for it

They're actually pretty upbeat and fun. They start the first 15 minutes talking about the bright spots of their week. It's also generally pretty funny which some more serious moments. You should really check it out.

Of anything positive you could say about Carlson 'no nonsense' isn't even remotely true.

Remember Joe, he made fun of someone else who was 5'7, saying they were too short to be dateable

Even in court they argued that Carlson was nonsense! "No reasonable person" would take him seriously... I mean for fucks sake Rogan lol

His whole "I'm just sealioning, I'm not really a right winger! I like mushrooms and pot hurhur" bit always irritated me because I knew it was bullshit.

I see it as someone who is insecure and letting the culture war control them. It seems like when presented with an idea in isolation, Rogan is capable of accepting it, but if he finds out that the 'woke left' supports it, he flips. Kinda crazy to see happen, actually.

Fuck the culture wars nonsense

Oh fuck you just made me realize which one Carlson is. I was thinking of the prager u guy? Or the guy whose face is all mushed into the center of his head?

Anyway, here's John Stewart on Crossfire shutting Carlson tf down.

5'7" is pretty short though

If you're talking about men, average male height for the US is 5'9". Average male height in Europe is 5'10. Asia is 5'6". Africa is 5'7". Australia is 5'8". Canada is 5'10.5". South America is 5'7".

No, 5'7" is not pretty short.

Username checks out.

Short enough to see under all the hypocrisy?

Tucker Fucking Carlson? If he runs I hope John Stewart runs against him.

Respectfully, no. We don't need more media personalities running for office. It's too much of a popularity contest as it is. Jon Stewart is intelligent and cares deeply about his chosen issues, but that doesn't mean he'd make a good (or willing) president. Tucker Carlson is just a boob.

I want a boring-ass presidential candidate with good solid policies and a willingness to take the long view (as in what's best in the long term for the country, not necessarily what will get them re-elected). I don't care if they're cool or charismatic.

Sadly elections are a popularity contest so being an already known media personality is a massive head start over someone eminently qualified and capable, but unknown. If we have to pick a media personality, I'd go with Stewbeef.

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If you listen to the Knowledge Fight podcast, you’ll hear Alex Jones literally bragging about radicalizing Joe Rogan. Alex Jones claims to be constantly in contact with him. So this is just the knuckle-dragger going further deep.

He's the new Alex jones

Rubbed off on him

Tucker Carlson might not be the brightest man on the planet, but I think even he's smart enough to know running for president would ruin his grift.

Tucker Carlson might not be the brightest man on the planet, but I think even he’s smart enough to know running for president would ruin his grift.

Only if you win. Losing would allow you to scream endlessly about the "deep state" and the "satanic cabal" that "made" you lose to a "pedophile DEMONcrat" while bilking the rubes that believe you out of every dime they can give.

If there's one thing to take to heart from Joe Rogan, I think it's this quote of his:

I'm not a doctor, I'm a fucking moron

only if joe rogan runs as VP. winning combo for sure. /s

What’s sad is that a lot of right-wingers would actually support that combo.

Meanwhile Vermin Supreme continues to languish as a presidential candidate.

I would never want to live in a world where Tucker Carlson is president. Ugh...

I mean, he COULD win. Right wing people like him and if you win the Republican nomination you're roughly 50/50 to be the president. Plus he can't do his old job until January 2025 and working anywhere but Fox just condemns him to the post-Fox life of Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck, hardly cultural forces anymore.

But I suspect there's a reason we haven't had opinion TV show hosts as president before, I'm just 100% sure he has said disqualifying things over his time in the spotlight.

If I was him I'd do the Mitt Romney, find a deep red state with a Senator opening and live there. Probably takes a couple years of schmoozing with the party leaders if you're not already a local hero like Romney was, but it's doable.

I wonder how much it costs to get Joe Rogan to say both “No-nonsense” and “Tucker Carlson” in the same sentence.

Welp, I used to be a Rogan fan but that just ended. Fuck Joe Rogan and Fuck Tucker Carlson

This was the one thing that pushed you over the edge?

IKR? Of all the copious mounds of lukewarm shit that came before. This little rabbit turd of a tidbit was what pushed them over the edge. And I get that some people find him an entertaining idiot and just watch or listen to laugh at him. But that is not excusable either. We shouldn't be making fun of people with serious mental issues like Rogan or paying them millions of dollars to pretend that they have those issues for the entertainment of others. People like that should be given the care they need and the privacy and dignity that everyone deserves. We should not be putting them up to be a spectacle.

I only remember him being entertaining on NewsRadio. After that, not so much.

Yes that or maybe fear factor. Although I really hate reality TV so I personally would not consider that entertaining. But to each their own. But nothing since then for sure

Tucker Carlson is exclusively nonsense

And that is literally his legal argument as well. "Your honor, I'm a fucking clown! Exclusively nonsense! No reasonable person could possibly believe I'm an honest source of information! Defamation suit won!?" (No.)

I'm going to need the precise definition of 'No-Nonsense', as it is being used in this context.

just a while ago i bumped into a tweet by elon musk recommending a carlson video.

and now this? what's happening.

i mean, both these dudes have always been a bit out there, but htf can they not see all the absolute, nutty, trashy, debilitating bullshittery that carlson spouts?

Kidding? They probably wrote the fucking script. Billionaires are scared we gon eat em so they need us divided as much as possible some don't overthrow their ass.

Joe "why does it lie?" Rogan. What a fucking idiot

Edit: I actually just watched the first episode of fear factor not too long ago and I'm surprised that I ever thought he would be a different person tbh

Joe Rogan was fine before 2016. How times change.

Was he though? He used to believe the moon landings were fake.

I had a family member try to get me to listen in 13 and even then it was bullshit. I really never listened to it but I'm guessing it just became more blatant as time moved on

Yeah the fact that he kept saying Alex Jones "was a good friend" and what Alex was doing was "a bit" made me turn him off back in 2015.

I listened a little bit when he interviewed Clarence the mushroom guy? I'm sure somebody can make sense of that. Lol. How he presented then was that he was a meathead that just wanted to understand and was willing to ask the dumb questions. I heard some of his other stuff around that time and it followed that same feeling. Heck, I even watched the Elon musk interview when he smokes pot. He was never bright or understood anything well enough to honestly judge that he took a side (he's been hit in the head a lot) but hearing what he's saying now is crazy. He probably still doesn't understand that he's taken a side. He probably is just within the target audience of Fox News and there have been studies about its efficiency in delivering propaganda in a way that you need professional help to counter. He's just another useful idiot. That's how that side works apparently.

Has anyone actually watched a Tucker Carlson episode? I mean a full episode and not curated clips that show up in your social media feed. A full episode where you listened to the whole thing from start to finish.

We've known who and what he is for decades. I don't need to listen to the latest iteration of his bullshit to make an assessment.

Who is "we" ?

Anyone who's been paying attention.

He's been the same piece of shit since at least 2004 when Jon Stewart embarrassed him into changing his wardrobe.

So the answer is no you haven't.

You got me.

I haven't watched a complete, unedited episode of Tucker Carlson's latest streaming show on Twitter and instead based my opinion of him on the last several decades of his shows, books, and public statements. Maybe he's not a disingenuous hack in this one, and I'm missing out on some actual, hard-hitting journalism.

Somehow, I doubt it.

Well, you might be surprised. Part of reconciling your difference with the other 50% of the country that doesn't agree with you is being willing to listen to the media they consume. I don't agree 100% with conservative media at all. Hell no. But part of my journey on figuring out what is going on involves at least giving the opposition a chance to speak. If you are set in your ways I understand and you will do what you feel is right.

I just want people to at least entertain the opportunity that maybe... just maybe they should look at things a little further before they declare half their neighbors to be the enemy.

I didn't say half my neighbors are the enemy. I said Tucker Carlson is a disingenuous hack and a piece of shit, and I stand by that assessment.

Being open minded is good advice, but maybe more relevant to the people trying to ban books and overturn elections than the people who aren't interested in watching your favorite nepo-baby whine on Twitter. I've got better ways to spend my time than giving him attention.

Well I certainly understand your position and I thank you for your time.

Do I need to watch an entire show to know that the clips of Tucker Carlson saying things like white supremacist rhetoric and support of Andrew Tate and Alex Jones make him a horrible person? What more do I have to gain from watching his bigotry?

Why would that be necessary? I watch shows where, if you cut out segments from it and presented it to me, i wouldnt think "what a xenophobic, transphobic, racist piece of shit".

I mean what are you even trying to suggest? That the segments become real humanitarian once you watch them back to back?

This has always been such a stupid argument in defense of people that are obviously pieces of shit. No, I dont need to read the collected works of jordan peterson to understand he sucks, and I dont need to waste my time watching an entire episode of "minute-of-hate daily" to understand Tucker is a cryptofascist

They'll all claim they have but in reality they've just seen the same picture over and over of that silly face he makes when he's listening to a guest speak.

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Of course he does, I do, everyones. Doesnt mean that they will though.

He’s smoked too much weed it pushed him far too right. I miss the old Rogan before Spotify long ago. Now he’s just a piece of shit lying to his followers.