DeSantis Pushes Baseless Claim ‘Liberal States’ Conduct ‘Post-Birth Abortions’

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DeSantis Pushes Baseless Claim ‘Liberal States’ Conduct ‘Post-Birth Abortions’: ‘I Think That That’s Wrong’
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"Post-birth abortion" 💀💀

Bro that's called murder 😅 why do they try so much to associate abortion with murder? It never worked and never will. Nobody is as dumb as they are. It's like they are trying to convince you to become stupid and forget reason because Jesus.

What in the actual fuck is wrong with conservatives nowadays? This is why this ideology is dying. And the more it dies, the more radicalized they become

Why isn't the interviewer calling out his bullshit to his face? This is how you get the lowest common denominator to believe this garbage.

Because CNN got shifted towards the right for a while. I know there's been leadership change at CNN relatively recently, but I don't know if that leadership is making any changes on that front, or if any attempted changes are having an effect.

He’s pushing it further to the right, as Can be expected from a billionaire.

It's the bullshit myth of "impartiality" that most journalists buy into.

They think they need to just "let the candidate speak for themselves" unless it's a left leaning candidate, and then they either;

A, Ignore the candidate completely,
B, Tear into the candidate on made up metrics like "electability" despite how popular the candidate actually is.

More has been written on this subject, but this is a good one.

It’s cuz the people who own media companies love republican policies and candidates no matter how “left-leaning” they allow their outlets to present as. An actual left-wing news station would tear desantis apart but they don’t exist because of media concentration.

Because he's not a journalist, he's a content creator. He gets paid for views, not for accurate reporting

They’re tying to attract some of FOX’s disaffected viewership.

If you listened to the whole video they talk about not providing life savings care to the child, which is not murder. There are a ton of babies who don't do well after birth and are not expected to survive long. This happens for a lot of different reasons. Withdraw of care, or moving to comfort care, is a well defined and common occurrence across the medical field. People die all the time and you can artificially preserve things like the heartbeat and breathing with machines, but you have to decide if that's what is best for the patient. It's not murder, it's not "post term abortion" either.

I just find the term incredibly stupid and hilarious 😅 Republicans always says the dumbest shit.

Think about it for a second;

"Post birth" means you are born. Right? Once you are born, you cant be aborted anymore... it changes the whole meaning. If you are born, breathe on your own and someone kills you, its murder. Not "post-birth abortion" lmao. Abortion is the end of a pregnancy. No pregnancy, no abortion.

Republicans can spin and twist this off as "abortion" as much as they want, they aren't doing a good job convincing the average Joe that abortion is wrong. Which is their goal... and everybody knows abortion is a relatively mild medicine procedure that does not involve killing anybody so why still using these stupid ass term?

It's a tactful way to get ignorant people to vote against their own interest. I don't think DeSantis is dumb, I think he's power hungry.

Just imagine how brain dead you need to be to believe this shit. And now remember that they vote.

they aren't doing a good job convincing the average Joe that abortion is wrong.

everybody knows abortion is a relatively mild medicine procedure that does not involve killing anybody so why still using these stupid ass term?

Listen, I used to be like you. I used to be confident that most people were smarter than shit like the idea of “post birth abortion.” You know what shattered that faith? The election in 2016. While it might be true that the majority of people aren’t that dumb, it doesn’t matter; it only takes *just enough *knuckleheads that eat up the shit like DeSantis is spreading to fuck us all.

There are enough people that will believe “post birth abortions” are happening - just like there were enough that believed (and STILL believe!) the election was stolen - simply because DeSantis said so, to be a considerable threat to our democracy.

The saying “never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers” is more apropos than ever these days.

Because it did work. It worked well enough that January 6th happened, and the 2016 election. It worked well enough that Florida consistently looks like Florida and votes like Florida, generation after generation.

It's an oxymoron. You can't abort a pregnancy that ended in birth. I'm sure he's trying to imply murder, but it's just stupidity spilling out of his mouth.

Conservatives have always been the most hated people, and for good reason. Their philosophies have long been used to justify crusades, genocide, racism, nationalism, and outrages of all kinds. Most of all, their attitude has always been "anyone who disagrees with me is a terrorist/rabid dog and needs to be put down for the good of humanity."

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Gotta let them know the US system performs post-birth abortions all the time and that DeSantis endorses it.

Wild animals are most dangerous when cornered and in their death throes.

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My only question is if he's stupid enough to actually believe it.

It’s just as dumb as believing in “partial birth” abortions which…I mean…come on. If only these people had the capacity to think about it for two seconds.

What in the world is a "partial birth" abortion?

The idea is it’s a late-term abortion where the baby is partially born and then killed. These abortions have been officially illegal since 2003. In general, only a tiny percentage of abortions are performed later than 24 weeks, and it’s almost always because of something terrible. Here’s a good article about it: https://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin

They really think that happens? In late term abortions right now the fetus is terminated before any delivery/extraction occurs. Crazy what they believe happens and equally crazy they don't bother to do actual research on what really happens.

It was huge propaganda point in my church when I was being raised Catholic. They told us the babies are either vacuumed out in pieces or they're pulled out and then their head is crushed with forceps. This is the kind of disgusting BS they make up to justify forcing their beliefs on other people. They teach it to naive children like it's a fact.

And of course they never mentioned that late term abortions are only ever performed to save the mother's life. They intentionally make it sound as if doctors just like killing babies and the mother is a debaucherous asshole. Cruel fucking liars.

Imagine going through that as a mother who WANTS to have a baby and then being treated as a murderer. It's straight up evil.

I mean, to be fair, it's definitely more dumb than that. Both are mind-cripplingly stupid, but "post-birth abortion" is a literal impossibility.

The republicans have been brainwashing their base to believe Democrats and Liberals are Satan's minions, just pure evil. They'll believe anything that fits that narrative. Remember the guy that shot up a pizza place because the right wing fronted a conspiracy theory that Hillary was running a pedophile ring in the basement.

Pedophile ring in the basement of the pizza place, which literally had no basement.

I can't help but think of Peewee's Big Adventure any time this topic comes up.

How stupid of a journalist/interviewer you have to be not to call out that bullshit and not relent until this fucker corrects his words on camera.

Absolutely not. These people know exactly what they're doing. Except Donnie Cheeto of course, who genuinely has no idea of what is true and what is false. That's why he comes across as so "authentic" to the morons.

Yeah this guy is a Yale/Harvard grad. He’s not stupid, but he knows what stupid people will believe and he knows how to say it convincingly

What kind of stupidity does it take to hear "post-birth abortion," and not immediately question it? We're doomed, because half of the voting population in this country can be convinced of literally anything if it's said by the right person, and it hurts the right people.

It takes generations of crippling education that removed critical thinking from a generation. Instead of thinking "post birth" abortion = actual murder and instead go "abortion" = murder "post birth abortion" double murder! It's like when you ask a Christian about sharia and they decry it yet when asked if Christianity should be involved in politics or shape politics and they go "of course!" Being wholely ignorant of the fact abrahamic law (Mosiac law) and sharia are most similar than dissimilar.

By their own logic, "post-birth abortion" should be seen as no worse than regular abortion because they claim regular abortion is murder. Not that I expect them to ever be logically consistent.

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Someone should remind Floridians they live in a post birth abortion state since they allow the death penalty.

There is no such thing as a liberal or conservative state. Dumbass doesn’t even know that fact.

Vote for a Florida politician and you get a bag of shit with some cocaine on it.

Go ahead and test the waters for a third time and watch your kids future vanish. What’s left of it anyway.

Capital Punishment is just a fancy word for extremely late-term post-birth abortions.

So red states do it all the time, Ronnie.

Lol he also said he's against the military providing abortions.

They’re actually paying people to go and get abortions with American tax dollars as part of the military.

This dude's going to make sure the military doesn't kill anyone, I guess.

And it's fucking false too. Even before the repeal of RvW, federal funding could not be used for abortion unless it was a risk of life to the mother, or due to rape/incest. That's it. That's how it was 10 years ago, that's how it is today. Tricare legally cannot cover abortions except for those circumstances.

Now, the military is currently allowing those of us unfortunate enough to be stationed in Florida or Texas or Missouri or Alabama or insert-red-state here, to go on non-chargeable leave and a portion of travel related expenses are covered. Not the procedure itself.

And fascist pricks like Tuberville and DeSantis are doing their best to claw just that much back. Because the cruelty is the point.

They sure do. It's call murder. And it's happening with guns. DeSanctimonious is anti-gun! Get 'em!!

baseless claim

I wish they’d just out and out say “lies”.

He should have been post birth aborted. I guess it could still happen, huh?

Meanwhile, it’s Republikkkan states and legislatures that perform post birth abortions through inaction on school mass shootings.

Their states broadly have the most crime, and yet they continue to pursue ineffective solutions like executing people without being 100% certain of guilt.

It’s all about imagery for Republicans, not honesty or reality. Waiting for the introduction of phrases like “mutilation abortion”, “satanic abortion”, and “puppy killing abortion” when talking about liberal states.

In all my life on this earth, I have never EVER met a liberal that advocated for the killing of puppies nor babies.

I would be really curious to know where they get these ideas from? Where are all these liberals secretly supporting the killings of cute things?

The politicians and pundits make it up to garner attention and their base eats it up.

The fact that conservatives refer to gender affirmation treatment as "chopping off children's genitals" no matter how many times they're corrected indicates that conservatives know they're lying and don't care.

This is just a clever man, framing an issue with a scary term used to terrify an ignorant voter base. Why is everyone so surprised as if this was some new thing?

DeSantis knows exactly what he’s doing here. He and his cronies are experts at manipulating the Cletuses.

Maybe "post-birth abortion" is the term we should be using to make the GOP finally address school shootings.

Every school shooting is a Republican success. They know how young people vote.

The logical follow up to pro-life is anti-gun and pro-feeding-everyone, but those somehow never make the GOP list.

That MF KNOWS EXACTLY what he is doing and is trying to get free media time while pushing out dangerous claims. He also knows hes loosing and when he looses he is completely done for.

When I was a kid my family used to joke about a post birth abortion. It’s amazing to see someone so desperate that they actually are using the idea to win votes

He wants to ban Post-Birth abortions. I assume that mean he wants to defund the police.

Usually those are carried out by some useless asshole who takes a gun to school but he's probably OK with that.