When I was a kid my mother used to boil them. I would gag from the taste. Mushy vomit-balls of awful.
A few years ago I watched a Jamie Oliver video on how to cook them properly and now they're a staple with roasts and meat + 3 veg at our place. My wife, my oldest son and I fight over who gets the most.
That's why everybody hated brussels sprouts in the 80s, and everybody loves them today. They're just not the same vegetable.
I keep hearing I should try eating them. With this info, I guess I might as well
I'd recommend halving and roasting them, drizzled in a mix of olive oil, good quality vinegar, salt, pepper, and a tiny dash of honey. Just make sure to pre-heat the oven, and use a high temperature (220°C should be good).
Alternatively: dice bacon, render fat, reserve the meaty bits, use the fat to brown the seasoned halved sprouts on high fire. Then put the meaty bacon bits again with them. Then add grated Parmesan.
Bacon fat is cheating! Lol
All is fair in love and war, and a kitchen is a bit of both anyway! :P
I'm dutch and grew up in the 2000's, I still remember boiled brussel sprouts tasting super bitter and awful. Haven't really tried them since I cook my own meals though.
They also get more bitter the longer they're cooked. Even with the new variety, I suspect boiling Brussels sprouts might be off the table. Higher temps, or raw (shredded and put in a salad) may get you results you actually like.
Roasting at 230C (450F) for up to about 20 minutes should be good. You may be able to go as high as 260C (500F). If they look slightly burnt when they come out, that's good. The bitter flavors that develop from burning are related to sugars, so brussel sprouts are largely immune.
I didn't have brussel sprouts I liked until the 2010s, but now they're one of my favorites.
Having eaten them both back then and now, and had them both properly cooked and poorly cooked, this makes the most sense. I just eventually forgot that they used to taste less pleasant than they do now.
I've heard this, but I'd like to know what I've been eating over time. I never hated sprouts - I had them boiled (briefly!) as a kid in the 90s, when I guess this variety hadn't yet proliferated? I like sprouts more now but have always attributed this to cooking them differently - fried or roasted, but occasionally simmered in a curry.
I still hate 'em, lol.
My nan used to boil them and I loathed the smell and taste.
I had them for the first time last year since I was a kid and they were okay. I think they were sautéd in butter and some other stuff. Not as bad, but I still really dislike the smell and I could easily never eat them again xD
For me it's pop music. Still love rock & metal but I stopped being a pathetic elitist and began to enjoy music for what it was.
Now I'll listen to anything from Dua Lipa to Darkthrone.
Only thing that is annoying about pop music, radio stations here play the same 10 songs several times per day. Every day.
“Music” could be on this list for me.
I don’t know where you found anything different from radio stations playing a few songs over and over, between almost constant blather, but this is why I never liked music.
At one phase I started to like music as I could buy what I wanted, but it was turning into an expensive habit to have any choice. Then the industry changed format and obsoleted my library.
It was a revelation when we got good music streaming services (and I could afford them) and I listen to so much more music now, from many genres and eras. I love music.
….. well, we’ll see as services turn more hostile to their customers
I have come to like more pop music over time too. What I found though is that I don't tend to attach much to music unless it has something unique to it, so have found myself going for bands like Pixie Paris which is very poppy but still a bit different.
But he is the most recent one that isn't current, which seems to track for a lot of the fan base.
((Jo Martin - retcon))
William Hartnell
Patrick Troughton
Jon Pertwee
Tom Baker
Peter Davison
Colin Baker
Sylvester McCoy
Paul McCann
(John Hurt - excellent retcon)
Christopher Ecclestone
David Tennant
Matt Smith
Peter Capaldi
Jodie Whittacre
Ncuti Gatwa
He isn't.
::: spoiler spoiler
You're ignoring the 3 episodes where Tennant came back as the Doctor, between Whittaker and Gatwa. Not as a throwback or anything, but as a proper regeneration.
:::
And the metacrisis, oh wait, oh I see. You're right. I shall hang my head in shame.
Jelly baby ... ?
Pertwee was my first doctor. I've always grown to like them all.
Sitting quietly.
I used to require constant distraction from my thoughts. I would keep my local NPR station on in the background, just to have something to distract me from the running monologue and dialogues in my head.
I had to do a lot of psychological/spiritual work, but at this point I can say that sitting quietly is extremely rewarding and comfortable.
Olives
Have you tried Castelventrano olives? With the pit 🤌
Those are great, and there's a green olive imported(?) by Mina which is exceptional.
Girls
I too come to enjoy girls.
Country music. I thought it was all Morgan Wallen, Tim McGraw, pop garbage. I’ve recently got into classic style honky tonk shit. I’m seeing Charley Crockett next week. I also like a band called The Reeves Brothers.
Same! I came from an urban Latino environment. Country sounded like vomit to me. Then, I met some country dude with roots in Appalachia. He introduced me to authentic country music. That shit hits hard.
If anyone is looking to give country a try, my favorite artists are as follows:
The Steeldrivers/Chris Stapleton
The Dead South
Alan Jackson (kind of bro-country sound, but great lyrics)
The Avett Brothers
I would classify The Dead South as bluegrass! Also, bluegrass is a great answer to OP
Alan Jackson, Chris Stapleton, and Jamey Johnson are a few of the mainstream country artists that I still like.
Old country music has been replaced by the genre folk, with a lot of crossover with modern day blues and americana.
Not a country fan, but we've been listening to a lot of old stuff, Bakersfield Beat on Sirius, Texas country, and alt. I like Hayes Carll. My son digs Charley Crockett. I haven't listened to it yet. How do you feel about Orville Peck? I initially thought it was goofy but now can't get Daytona sand out if my head.
Sturgill Simpson is S tier
Check out red dirt country music, it’s the descendant of outlaw country.
Spinach.
From my childhood, I remember vile black slimy stuff from a can, cooked into something that reminded me of LaBrea tar pits.
As an adult, I find fresh spinach tasty. I even like cooked spinach, where you take the pan off the burner and fold it into hot food until it wilts a little. It turns out to all be in how it’s preserved and prepared.
Put them on a tray, spray with olive oil, sprinkle some salt, bake in oven. Spinach chips! Mmmmm
Rain, when I was younger I used to dislike it. Rainy days are now my fave type of day!
Teas in general. They went from "eeew" to occasionally wanting some.
This is likely related to fruit juices going down in my list, from "must. have." to "...okay".
If you can get your tea local instead of from a grocery store the flavours can be really good.
Yup - I've been planting some things (like peppermint), drying others (like orange peels), and the taste is another level than store-bought stuff.
Metal music. It used to sound like random noise made by kids, but I've learned to appreciate it musically.
But I'm over the age in which I can take comfort in this music to express my anger and depression.
Beer
And now that some good varieties are available…NA beers
Hop water is super refreshing, we’re living in a renaissance y’all.
My Chemical Romance. I had barely heard any of their music when I was younger but hated what I heard. Now I own the black parade on vinyl. They're not my favorite band or anything, but they're actually pretty fun, as it turns out.
They definitely grew on me as I stopped being a pretentious loser that hated things just because they were popular
Mushrooms (as food), tea, classical music, colder weather, and it follows- long sleeved shirts, the feeling of flossed teeth, reading books, co-existing with spiders
Drinking water instead of flavored drinks.
As a former picky eater, lots of foods. Most notably sushi (used to dislike all fish), and bell peppers that moved from disgusting to delicious.
Lots of music. As most kids do (or used to before streaming was a thing) I was locked in a limited set of genres, but I've come to appreciate songs I'd have never considered back then.
I think that's standard with food. When you first encounter it, the body's normal reaction is "WTF is this?! It's going to kill me!!", then the second time it's more like "Hmmm I don't know about this, but it didn't kil me last time". Then eventually you learn to like the food.
Meanwhile, many allergies are not actually caused by the thing you reacted to, but to something else. Your body just associates the bad effect with something that else alongisde it. For example, a seafood allergy can develop after eating bad seafood - but it doesn't happen until after. The time you eat bad seafood will be largely uneventful, maybe you have a bit of a dodgy poo, but then the next time you eat seafood you will have a bad allergic reaction. Your body detected the harmful substance that came with the bad seafood, then associates the harm with all seafood, such that all seafood is then rejected.
In the case of bell peppers there's also the fact that children are more sensitive to bitter flavours, and there's some bitterness on peppers. Specially commercially grown, since when you grow them home they end sweeter.
Joe Biden
For me, it was Trump.
I used to hate him, but after he lost the presidency, I realised how empty my life was without him.
From 2016 to 2020, every morning I would wake up with a smile on my face while I read the latest, dumbest shit I've ever heard. Each day was progressively more unhinged than the day before.
He was the perfect receptacle of my endless rage. Sure, he was the source of the rage in the first place, but the combination of infuriation and bewilderment was cathartic.
Olives
Same here. For me, it might be familiarity. My family pretty much never had olives so the few occasions I saw them were just not appealing. However my ex’s family had them more frequently so I learned to like them with more frequent exposure (and maturing tastes)
When I was a child, they reminded me of grapes, but tasted salty... which is why I hated them
Bell peppers. I used to HATE these things, now I do eat them whenever I get the chance.
Don't cancel me. Cryptocurrencies. Banks suck and now I understand the appeal in getting the hell away from them.
While I agree with that, I dislike how environmentally unfriendly most are - especially Bitcoin.
Is not a cure-all by any means, they have their own problems
Did you know that a bank is specifically forbidden from taking money from a checking or savings accounts to satisfy a payment owed without your express authorization if you also have a loan/credit card through the same bank?
Did you also know that CUs are exempted from that consumer protection regulation? That's right and many of them exercise their ability, I learned this the hard way, when MF'in NFCU ripped a 300$ payment out of my account that was 2 or 3 weeks late on an unsecured loan (it wasnt even a couple months) and screwed over my ability to make my rent that month.
They also have the DUMBEST online account security practices. "We can't have you set your own username for "security" so you'll have to wait for us to mail you a letter with a user ID on it, oh and to log in for the first time you'll have to wait another week for us to also mail you a new account pin"
CUs might be a tad better than banks, but they are NO savior.
Sparkling water.
I mean going through life many foods. tomato and avocado. never disliked pickle but went from meh to almost a must have.
Naps.
Eggs. I did not like them at all (except as an ingredient in pancakes) for a quarter of a century.
Now I do like myself a hard boiled egg with a pinch of salt for breakfast
Salt is ok, but try a pinch of MSG.
Cooked mushrooms. As a kid, I viscerally hated the smell of mushrooms, to the point it would make me gag whenever we had them for supper. The aversion gradually lessened over time. Then when I moved out and started cooking on my own, I suddenly found them delicious! To the point that I now like to add them to almost any savory meal.
Coke. COVID fucked my taste up. Clearly Coke made COVID.
Spicy food. I think my sense of taste has gotten dull as I got older so now I like that extra kick.
Olives. I still don't like them straight out of the jar, but if you dump a jar of them into a nice olive oil marinade for a week, that's an amazing thing, and you can save the marinade and add more olives as you go. Then they're heaven.
Sausages, but they have to be good quality ones. Cheap ones can get in the fucking bin.
Chicken
Baseball
Jomboy only
I used to dislike the taste of licorice. I used to eat the sweet bits from those licorice cubes my dad had when I was a kid and then throw away the licorice parts.
Don't know when that changed, but I was on the way home with my old man (I may have been late teens/early 20's?) and I was quite hungry. All he had in the car at the time was licorice and it was one of the most delicious things I ever had.
He sometimes playfully complains that he remembered a time when us kids never liked licorice or pepper and now we eat him out of a house.
Brussels Sprouts.
When I was a kid my mother used to boil them. I would gag from the taste. Mushy vomit-balls of awful.
A few years ago I watched a Jamie Oliver video on how to cook them properly and now they're a staple with roasts and meat + 3 veg at our place. My wife, my oldest son and I fight over who gets the most.
This might not be on account of your mother's cooking, Jamie Oliver, or your evolving taste buds. Rather, Dutch scientists managed to breed tasty brussels sprouts back in the 90s, and the tasty version has since become the standard.
That's why everybody hated brussels sprouts in the 80s, and everybody loves them today. They're just not the same vegetable.
I keep hearing I should try eating them. With this info, I guess I might as well
I'd recommend halving and roasting them, drizzled in a mix of olive oil, good quality vinegar, salt, pepper, and a tiny dash of honey. Just make sure to pre-heat the oven, and use a high temperature (220°C should be good).
Alternatively: dice bacon, render fat, reserve the meaty bits, use the fat to brown the seasoned halved sprouts on high fire. Then put the meaty bacon bits again with them. Then add grated Parmesan.
Bacon fat is cheating! Lol
All is fair in love and war, and a kitchen is a bit of both anyway! :P
I'm dutch and grew up in the 2000's, I still remember boiled brussel sprouts tasting super bitter and awful. Haven't really tried them since I cook my own meals though.
They also get more bitter the longer they're cooked. Even with the new variety, I suspect boiling Brussels sprouts might be off the table. Higher temps, or raw (shredded and put in a salad) may get you results you actually like.
Roasting at 230C (450F) for up to about 20 minutes should be good. You may be able to go as high as 260C (500F). If they look slightly burnt when they come out, that's good. The bitter flavors that develop from burning are related to sugars, so brussel sprouts are largely immune.
I didn't have brussel sprouts I liked until the 2010s, but now they're one of my favorites.
Having eaten them both back then and now, and had them both properly cooked and poorly cooked, this makes the most sense. I just eventually forgot that they used to taste less pleasant than they do now.
I've heard this, but I'd like to know what I've been eating over time. I never hated sprouts - I had them boiled (briefly!) as a kid in the 90s, when I guess this variety hadn't yet proliferated? I like sprouts more now but have always attributed this to cooking them differently - fried or roasted, but occasionally simmered in a curry.
I still hate 'em, lol.
My nan used to boil them and I loathed the smell and taste.
I had them for the first time last year since I was a kid and they were okay. I think they were sautéd in butter and some other stuff. Not as bad, but I still really dislike the smell and I could easily never eat them again xD
https://invidious.incogniweb.net/watch?v=lBX10drV6A0
was it this one?
For me it's pop music. Still love rock & metal but I stopped being a pathetic elitist and began to enjoy music for what it was.
Now I'll listen to anything from Dua Lipa to Darkthrone.
Only thing that is annoying about pop music, radio stations here play the same 10 songs several times per day. Every day.
“Music” could be on this list for me.
I don’t know where you found anything different from radio stations playing a few songs over and over, between almost constant blather, but this is why I never liked music.
At one phase I started to like music as I could buy what I wanted, but it was turning into an expensive habit to have any choice. Then the industry changed format and obsoleted my library.
It was a revelation when we got good music streaming services (and I could afford them) and I listen to so much more music now, from many genres and eras. I love music.
….. well, we’ll see as services turn more hostile to their customers
I have come to like more pop music over time too. What I found though is that I don't tend to attach much to music unless it has something unique to it, so have found myself going for bands like Pixie Paris which is very poppy but still a bit different.
Aah, so still being a bit elitist ;)
Shh!
Matt Smith as the Doctor
The best doctor is always the last doctor.
Weird, because Tennant wasn't the last doctor ...
But he is the most recent one that isn't current, which seems to track for a lot of the fan base.
((Jo Martin - retcon))
William Hartnell
Patrick Troughton
Jon Pertwee
Tom Baker
Peter Davison
Colin Baker
Sylvester McCoy
Paul McCann
(John Hurt - excellent retcon)
Christopher Ecclestone
David Tennant
Matt Smith
Peter Capaldi
Jodie Whittacre
Ncuti Gatwa
He isn't.
::: spoiler spoiler You're ignoring the 3 episodes where Tennant came back as the Doctor, between Whittaker and Gatwa. Not as a throwback or anything, but as a proper regeneration. :::
And the metacrisis, oh wait, oh I see. You're right. I shall hang my head in shame.
Jelly baby ... ?
Pertwee was my first doctor. I've always grown to like them all.
Sitting quietly.
I used to require constant distraction from my thoughts. I would keep my local NPR station on in the background, just to have something to distract me from the running monologue and dialogues in my head.
I had to do a lot of psychological/spiritual work, but at this point I can say that sitting quietly is extremely rewarding and comfortable.
Olives
Have you tried Castelventrano olives? With the pit 🤌
Those are great, and there's a green olive imported(?) by Mina which is exceptional.
Girls
I too come to enjoy girls.
Country music. I thought it was all Morgan Wallen, Tim McGraw, pop garbage. I’ve recently got into classic style honky tonk shit. I’m seeing Charley Crockett next week. I also like a band called The Reeves Brothers.
Same! I came from an urban Latino environment. Country sounded like vomit to me. Then, I met some country dude with roots in Appalachia. He introduced me to authentic country music. That shit hits hard.
If anyone is looking to give country a try, my favorite artists are as follows:
I would classify The Dead South as bluegrass! Also, bluegrass is a great answer to OP
Alan Jackson, Chris Stapleton, and Jamey Johnson are a few of the mainstream country artists that I still like.
Old country music has been replaced by the genre folk, with a lot of crossover with modern day blues and americana.
Not a country fan, but we've been listening to a lot of old stuff, Bakersfield Beat on Sirius, Texas country, and alt. I like Hayes Carll. My son digs Charley Crockett. I haven't listened to it yet. How do you feel about Orville Peck? I initially thought it was goofy but now can't get Daytona sand out if my head.
Sturgill Simpson is S tier
Check out red dirt country music, it’s the descendant of outlaw country.
Spinach.
From my childhood, I remember vile black slimy stuff from a can, cooked into something that reminded me of LaBrea tar pits.
As an adult, I find fresh spinach tasty. I even like cooked spinach, where you take the pan off the burner and fold it into hot food until it wilts a little. It turns out to all be in how it’s preserved and prepared.
Put them on a tray, spray with olive oil, sprinkle some salt, bake in oven. Spinach chips! Mmmmm
Rain, when I was younger I used to dislike it. Rainy days are now my fave type of day!
Teas in general. They went from "eeew" to occasionally wanting some.
This is likely related to fruit juices going down in my list, from "must. have." to "...okay".
If you can get your tea local instead of from a grocery store the flavours can be really good.
Yup - I've been planting some things (like peppermint), drying others (like orange peels), and the taste is another level than store-bought stuff.
Metal music. It used to sound like random noise made by kids, but I've learned to appreciate it musically.
But I'm over the age in which I can take comfort in this music to express my anger and depression.
Beer And now that some good varieties are available…NA beers Hop water is super refreshing, we’re living in a renaissance y’all.
My Chemical Romance. I had barely heard any of their music when I was younger but hated what I heard. Now I own the black parade on vinyl. They're not my favorite band or anything, but they're actually pretty fun, as it turns out.
They definitely grew on me as I stopped being a pretentious loser that hated things just because they were popular
Mushrooms (as food), tea, classical music, colder weather, and it follows- long sleeved shirts, the feeling of flossed teeth, reading books, co-existing with spiders
Drinking water instead of flavored drinks.
As a former picky eater, lots of foods. Most notably sushi (used to dislike all fish), and bell peppers that moved from disgusting to delicious.
Lots of music. As most kids do (or used to before streaming was a thing) I was locked in a limited set of genres, but I've come to appreciate songs I'd have never considered back then.
I think that's standard with food. When you first encounter it, the body's normal reaction is "WTF is this?! It's going to kill me!!", then the second time it's more like "Hmmm I don't know about this, but it didn't kil me last time". Then eventually you learn to like the food.
Meanwhile, many allergies are not actually caused by the thing you reacted to, but to something else. Your body just associates the bad effect with something that else alongisde it. For example, a seafood allergy can develop after eating bad seafood - but it doesn't happen until after. The time you eat bad seafood will be largely uneventful, maybe you have a bit of a dodgy poo, but then the next time you eat seafood you will have a bad allergic reaction. Your body detected the harmful substance that came with the bad seafood, then associates the harm with all seafood, such that all seafood is then rejected.
In the case of bell peppers there's also the fact that children are more sensitive to bitter flavours, and there's some bitterness on peppers. Specially commercially grown, since when you grow them home they end sweeter.
Joe Biden
For me, it was Trump.
I used to hate him, but after he lost the presidency, I realised how empty my life was without him.
From 2016 to 2020, every morning I would wake up with a smile on my face while I read the latest, dumbest shit I've ever heard. Each day was progressively more unhinged than the day before.
He was the perfect receptacle of my endless rage. Sure, he was the source of the rage in the first place, but the combination of infuriation and bewilderment was cathartic.
Olives
Same here. For me, it might be familiarity. My family pretty much never had olives so the few occasions I saw them were just not appealing. However my ex’s family had them more frequently so I learned to like them with more frequent exposure (and maturing tastes)
When I was a child, they reminded me of grapes, but tasted salty... which is why I hated them
Bell peppers. I used to HATE these things, now I do eat them whenever I get the chance.
Don't cancel me. Cryptocurrencies. Banks suck and now I understand the appeal in getting the hell away from them.
While I agree with that, I dislike how environmentally unfriendly most are - especially Bitcoin.
Take your pick of the environmentally friendly coins
Use a credit union.
Is not a cure-all by any means, they have their own problems
Did you know that a bank is specifically forbidden from taking money from a checking or savings accounts to satisfy a payment owed without your express authorization if you also have a loan/credit card through the same bank?
Did you also know that CUs are exempted from that consumer protection regulation? That's right and many of them exercise their ability, I learned this the hard way, when MF'in NFCU ripped a 300$ payment out of my account that was 2 or 3 weeks late on an unsecured loan (it wasnt even a couple months) and screwed over my ability to make my rent that month.
They also have the DUMBEST online account security practices. "We can't have you set your own username for "security" so you'll have to wait for us to mail you a letter with a user ID on it, oh and to log in for the first time you'll have to wait another week for us to also mail you a new account pin"
CUs might be a tad better than banks, but they are NO savior.
Sparkling water.
I mean going through life many foods. tomato and avocado. never disliked pickle but went from meh to almost a must have.
Naps.
Eggs. I did not like them at all (except as an ingredient in pancakes) for a quarter of a century. Now I do like myself a hard boiled egg with a pinch of salt for breakfast
Salt is ok, but try a pinch of MSG.
Cooked mushrooms. As a kid, I viscerally hated the smell of mushrooms, to the point it would make me gag whenever we had them for supper. The aversion gradually lessened over time. Then when I moved out and started cooking on my own, I suddenly found them delicious! To the point that I now like to add them to almost any savory meal.
Coke. COVID fucked my taste up. Clearly Coke made COVID.
Spicy food. I think my sense of taste has gotten dull as I got older so now I like that extra kick.
Olives. I still don't like them straight out of the jar, but if you dump a jar of them into a nice olive oil marinade for a week, that's an amazing thing, and you can save the marinade and add more olives as you go. Then they're heaven.
Sausages, but they have to be good quality ones. Cheap ones can get in the fucking bin.
Chicken
Baseball
Jomboy only
I used to dislike the taste of licorice. I used to eat the sweet bits from those licorice cubes my dad had when I was a kid and then throw away the licorice parts.
Don't know when that changed, but I was on the way home with my old man (I may have been late teens/early 20's?) and I was quite hungry. All he had in the car at the time was licorice and it was one of the most delicious things I ever had.
He sometimes playfully complains that he remembered a time when us kids never liked licorice or pepper and now we eat him out of a house.