If you're in the US, how are you preparing for the election and dealing with the stress?

compostgoblin@slrpnk.net to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 175 points –

I’ve already mailed in my ballot, and I volunteered to be a poll worker (though they haven’t gotten in touch). With a week (maybe two) to go before we get the result, I feel caught in a limbo. It feels more important to me to be copying my important documents and organizing go-bags to be ready for a crisis than it does to do anything at work. I also recognize that that is probably a reaction to stress and anxiety and isn’t helping me. That said, I’m part of many groups that the right-wing hates and is openly threatening, so feeling unsafe doesn’t feel unreasonable either.

How are you all holding up out there? And tips for me to deal with this better?

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You gotta get to the point where you worry about the things you can control, and let go of the things that you can’t.

This is the way.

This is actually a big message in the dharma of the Buddha.

I used to be much more into meditation and reading Buddhist literature. I reflect on that time in my life as being happier and more peaceful (I was also exercising a lot more then too). I’ve started going to a yoga class a few times a month, but I wish I had an easier time getting back into the rest of it.

But the fact that it's not easy is a good thing. The hard thing to do is usually the right thing to do. Dealing with the negative hardship is a positive experience in the end, and avoiding the negative hardship is worse than the hardship itself.

Every moment can be done in meditation. Making time would be great but if it doesn't happen you can still give presence into whatever moment you find yourself in.

Not Jesus? That ain’t my lord and savior! Round this one up bois

And classical Stoicism. (Not the "don't talk much" kind, but the roman philosopher kind.)

Letting go of things you can't control like death also was a big tenet of the Jedi order, which I guess isn't that surprising considering where Lucas was pulling sources from

If I could move stuff with my mind, I would convert to Jedism today.

Pretty sure I'd go full Sith. I'm not super big on hate, but if I could move things and influence people with my mind I'm under no illusions that I would use that power for good.

I don't know if I would trust myself with that power. I hope my worldview is correct because if I ever got it I would try to reshape the world into how I wish it could be. Probably not the best idea but honestly beating our currect system is a low bar so I'd give myself a good chance.

A combination of this and avoiding political news and discussion altogether (as much as I can anyway).

What's the point of reading, discussing and/or arguing when in the end the only thing that matters is your vote (and money/time if you're able and so inclined).

The news tries to rile you up, and all I really need to know is who won once the election happens, until then I'm avoiding it.

I have blocked every news and political centered community i see here; it helps with the stress and my mental health a lot. Particularly since I have particular views that compels me to ruffle feathers, get nasty comments and be ignored on every political community across the whole spectrum.

It’s easier to just don’t try to post until tempers cool down, if ever. If I don’t see news then I don’t have to reply and share, and probably lowers the stress a notch

But isn’t that like over half the communities? Is there anything left besides meme reposts?

Less than 10, after that I get the occasional reference but deep in the list

There would be far fewer anxiety disorders diagnosed if people did this.

there are more than a million less people alive in the United States today from a mismanaged federal global pandemic response because trump was in the big chair the last time, i'm sure the hundreds of millions effected by their loss, share your same karmic acceptance, that their lives were meaningless because they couldn't control who was making (or purposefully not making) the decisions their fates depended upon. all very zen.

Alcohol, cannabis, and limiting my exposure to news/politics. It's working wonders, TBH.

That actually sounds like you're not doing well at all.

This is what we do outside of election season as well. We, as a people, are not doing well... But at the same time, i think we're doing the best we can considering the state of things.

Our society is sick.

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Honestly, other than voting and trying to get those around me to actually give a shit, I'm not. Like in the past two elections, I'm having trouble grasping the fact that half of the (voting) country wants to elect a fascist. My mother told me over the phone that one of her neighbors is voting for Trump because "his wife is absolutely gorgeous". Like, how do you even respond to that, especially in any calm way?

Oh, and someone here reminded me: cannabis. Lots and lots of it.

If you vote for someone because you think their wife is hot I don’t think you should be allowed to vote.

Reminds me of some French women who voted for Macron because he married a woman 25 years older than him (formerly his highschool literature teacher).

Oh, and someone here reminded me: cannabis. Lots and lots of it.

I shudder to think about how poorly I’d be handling things if I didn’t have cannabis lol

Until the election happens I'm going about my life as normal, because I'm not about to self destruct while she still has a chance. If she wins I'm going to celebrate that I can keep living as I am.

In the meantime, I'm also making my exit plans in case Trump wins. I'm an openly leftist, transgender, neurodivergent, latina immigrant and performance artist. I'm going to be in the first wave of people rounded up.

Is trump planning to round up artists?

He's openly talked of rounding up illegal immigrants, and changing the laws about what makes immigrants legal. If he acts on even half the threats he has made, a lot of people are in danger.

Yeah, I know. I asked about artists though.

Erm ackshually can you stop being concerned for your mortal safety? You made a minor error in your statement and I insist that you verify my counterargument is correct 🤓

What the hell are you talking about‽

I just wanted to know if trump has made some more stupid statements. I had just not heard of any attacks on artists and wanted to know more.

While I'm not a drag performer, I don't trust these troglodytes to be able to tell the difference between other kinds of performance art and drag. I also expect them to define any performance art created by a trans person as drag, and we've all seen how they treat any form of drag

I assume the reason they brought it up is because artists commonly publish their work and are therefore easier to find. If they decide to express themselves they then are far easier to find than others.

People outside of US have the right to worry about this election as well imo. It's one of many currently on-going battles of autocracy vs democracy and this election will heavily shape the battlefield.

I wish all of the luck to my American friends and really that's all non-americans can do so I'll just grab a joint and catch up on the new season of What We Do In The Shadows until this blows over.

People outside of US have the right to worry about this election as well imo

this is just american exceptionalism, i don't really care, nothing would really change, just more wars, rapes and destruction from the US empire

ah you're from .ml, feel free to ignore my comment entirely. Didn't want to ruin your day with non-extremist world views sorry.

I figured out who to vote for and mostly lost faith in the American people. I deeply understand that the system is broken but electing a fascist is not the way to fix it unless you want it completely broken. Honestly pretty depressed about the whole thing because prospects are grim and I have little hope for the future after the past 10 years.

I do think Harris will win, but the fact that it's this close is disconcerting.

Bottled water and prepping the generator. I fully expect the racist fucks out here to cause real problems, regardless of outcome. We already have daily parades of giant lifted trucks covered in Trump flags doing burnouts and screaming the n-word at people. In 2020 we had some protesting high school kids get attacked and beaten by adult Trump supporters, cops looked the other way. My town has a giant painting of a Nazi on its largest building, which is a Mason hall. I hate this place.

Damn, where do you live?

SoCal, maybe an hour away from San Diego. East County is a white supremacy hotspot. It's all rich white fucks who crow loudly about hating California but stay and make our lives miserable because red states are shit holes and they know it.

I wish we could just banish these people to their own continent like the British did with Australia. Why didn't we let them stay seceded?

Well, my folks and I will stay in that night. We're in a heavy Trump area, and I'm more concerned about if he loses than wins. I honestly never thought we'd have to deal with Trump after his horrible presidency, so I've been on high alert since he was confirmed their canidate. My mom has all of us renewing our passports as well.

I know this is dramatic, but I may actually stay home "sick" if Trump wins. To reconcile with the fact that people would vote this absolute embarrassment in again would make me so terribly disappointed in my countrymen. And this was the campaign I really put my money where my mouth is: I volunteered, donated (when I could) , even protested. It's not so much that I like Harris, but the future that Trump and his cohorts has painted has been horrific. I would need some time to "grieve" so to speak.

Election night, I plan to have good weed when it's all said and done, because good God. Even if Harris makes it, this whole thing had been exhausting. And it won't stop. If Harris makes it, we still have so much fucking work to do, and just thinking of that wears me out.

I've been writing postcards and letters to voters. It's a little too late to jump on the postcard wagon but letters can be written until 10/29. It's super easy, you're provided templates, instructions and addresses, you just need paper, envelopes and stamps.

https://votefwd.org/

I wrote a ton of both and it did wonders to distract me and give me something of purpose to do at the same time.

I'm pretty sure text banking and phone banking is still going on too.

Shit, man, I dunno. I already voted. I fly my blue-team flag in a red town. I hope that most of the people voting for him are just insensitive clods who aren't as personally hateful as the jokes they'll laugh at, or that they're somehow stupid enough to have been genuinely convinced that our creaky business-friendly center-left coalition is some sort of economy-dooming experiment in socialism. So yeah, I'm reduced to hoping that a large percentage of my fellow citizens are idiots and/or assholes, rather than actual fascists.

It's too close to know who will win, so things could turn out kinda okay if the Democrats pull it off. If Trump wins, maybe they don't manage the Senate and little of longstanding legislative harm gets passed. Sotomayor should be okay for the next four years, so for SCOTUS itself the damage is likely already done. Finally, I still mostly think that Trump will be content to line his pockets for four years and then pardon himself on the way out. He's too old to inspire any energy to repeal the 22nd amendment, and I don't see anyone behind him ready to slot in as an heir apparent, so maybe the less intensely awful republicans will reclaim some measure of control, or a gaggle of pretenders fragments their base and they can't really get organized to win nationally. A second Trump term is going to fucking suck, though, and a lot of innocent people are going to get hurt all across the world, many more than in a Harris administration, IMHO.

Shit's grim, and the Christian Nationalists see this as their time, possibly their last good chance in their current form, to really seize the reins of power.

They don't need to organize anymore they just need a pulse and an (R) next to their name to have a real chance of winning nationally at this point.

If Harris does win, the rest of the world would really like it if you invested in education America. Specifically a robust history curriculum. Especially around 1935-1945.

We all know about WWII. Even Germany is having trouble keeping the Nazis at bay though. I think it might be part of human nature for some of us to be literally evil. To properly resist this requires not only for the majority to be good, but for them to actively oppose evil in their personal lives. Most are unwilling to do this.

It feels like something in the genre of the paradox of tolerance, where the most empathetic and pacifistic people are the people best positioned to remove shitters from the gene pool responsibly

I've already resigned myself to the fact that a) my candidates of choice likely won't win, and b) the results will be contested with complaints, nit-picking, tantrums, and probably violence across at least several states, and a final decision won't be known for a few weeks.

I'm trying to avoid political topics and articles a bit more than usual. I also have a lot of things going on in my personal life (not necessarily bad things, but lots of responsibilities) that are keeping me busy right now.

I had also saved up a couple of TV shows that I've been wanting to watch, to fill in some of the little free time I have right now.

Edit: fixed a word.

As shameful as it may be, I’m reducing my stress by reminding myself that I, personally, will be fine regardless.

But I fear for many friends, loved ones, and strangers who may not fare as well.

This is where I'm at. I'm part of every majority group, but I can't feel comfortable because I know that anyone who's not is a potential target.

Planning my Amerexit. I don’t want to leave, we have a decent country, but if Trump wins this place is going to go to hell fast.

And it seems like Canada isn't far behind us either... Though maybe there will be a backlash up there once they see what Trump is doing down here.

I doubt it, Trudeau really has pissed off most Canadians and their Conservative Party is also corrupt as hell. It’ll be better than here for a bit but Canadians in general feel politically stuck and that might not end well. Similar issue in Germany.

Where are you planning to go?

Not the person you asked, but I'll give my answer: I don't know where I'd go, but I've been learning French for the last few years, in part, to increase my options.

(The other reason I picked French is that I've also been considering getting a sailboat and becoming nomadic, and France owns a whole bunch of tropical islands.)

Depends how quickly things devolve. If things get bad too quickly, I may move to China for a bit. Yes, really. I know that’s a bit ironic. But I have family there, so getting residency is trivial for me. Day to day life is chill there, just don’t piss off the party. In America, I’d be considered a political enemy if the Republicans go full fascist, so ironically it would be safer for me.

I’d hate to lose American working opportunities, salaries, my house, my friends, and my family. But if things devolve really quick I don’t want to be here and that’s my fastest way out.

If there’s a fair bit of time to move, Japan, Spain, Netherlands, even Germany would all be decent picks for me.

My long term goal is honestly Japan - competent society, free and open, outstanding food, low pollution, safe for kids to be independent with good educational opportunities, few drug addicts, and high social respect.

We survived one term, this one will be worse, but if we stop being idiots and let them distract us with 1000 tiny controversies then we can solve anything.

He had nearly unlimited power last time and we did OK, though McCain helped and that corporate tax cut was brutal.

I think America has become politically lazy, sometimes you have to take a stand for your principles, and we've gotten used to expecting the idiots on TV to do that for us.

If he 'wins' and we put 10m people on Pennsylvania Avenue, I think we can make it clear that he serves us, not the other way around.

But we won't do that, we'll expect everyone else to instead...

Last time there were a lot more guardrails, though. It also wasn’t entirely clear if he was going to be a fascist either.

Honestly a reasonable person in 2016 could consider Trump to even be a moderate Republican (yes, really). Corrupt and lazy, sure, but I was expecting the American equivalent of someone like Rob Ford, not some insane idiot who is begging people in his party to literally rig the vote in his favor.

Come to California. We'll be the center of any resistance.

Thank you for fighting, unfortunately there are millions of morons who think Trump is amazing and I don’t feel having my family get caught up in dying for this bullshit.

I’m going to go drop off my ballot and sit back and wait for the results. There is nothing more I can do so there’s no sense in worrying about it. Focus on things you can actually change.

Doomscrolling, exercise, and looking up firing ranges near me. Been a few decades since last I went

I don't need to look up the closest firing range because it was recently all over the news when one of the members went up on a roof and tried to shoot this guy who was running for President.

Not the most recent would be shooter, the one before that.

Hell of a fall for the leaves, though.

What exercise plan, if any, are you following? I let my fitness slip pretty hard during COVID, and haven’t had good luck getting back into the groove with anything I’ve tried so far

Honestly, me too and I don't have much of a plan. I tried doing some pushups the other day and was shocked how much capacity I've lost. Following the wisdom that the hardest part of a run is lacing up your shoes, i'm just telling myself to do something every day. 3 sets of pushups. Squats during ad breaks. Walk to the store for a snack. That kind of thing A little bit of physical activity is a great distraction from the anxiety in my head

I've already voted. I don't have the ability to volunteer for anything, so I'm working on removing all the doomer posting and adding blocks on my feeds. No point in stressing about something I have no more ability to help with.

Ignoring it.

Bought a farm a few years back in northern Europe, it's beautiful, wife and kid moved, I'm communiting.

If shit hits the fan I'll be there, but some part of me has faith in my country, and even if the trash take over, I think we'll somehow survive.

Wife is thrilled to be out, kid is doing great. It's basically America but better, except without Amazon.

Besides, I survived the south, and I was a kid back then. I've seen their bigotry naked when they were strong and I was weak, i have no fear for them anymore. And if civil war does break out? I am an extraordinary engineer, particularly when it comes to military drones. Parry that with your crappy ar15 you filthy casual.

It helps knowing you literally can make a difference if you absolutely have to, so I recommend picking up a useful skill if you didn't during covid.

I left Canada when the politics started to mirror that of America's. Went to Europe, and while there are a lot of problems here as well (an increasing amount to boot), I'm happier overall.

Around 2008, basically all the Texans who screwed up US politics saw their gravy train ending and ran north to exploit Alberta's new oil.

I'm sorry, but it's like apologizing for locusts.

A particularly insidious strain of Christianity trained me to resign myself to a premature death when I was still a teenager. Hasn't happened yet, and I'm in no hurry, because I care deeply for others. While I hate religion very much, it did instill in me very little fear of death.. I'm afraid for the fate of humanity so much more than my own.

Head down just trying to do my hobbies, my job and some fun stuff like a virtual Bob Ross painting session tonight.

There's really nothing I can do besides voting and having others vote.

Writing my reps just gets me form responses.

The only country I can flee to is Ukraine since I was born there and uh...

if trump steals the white house again i'll be going to buy more security cameras and guns before they add an "acceptable voting history" requirement on those purchases

I've literally been registered as "independent" since his first win because I could see the bloodlust even then. I'd rather not have myself on a registered "enemies list"... :(

Not great... I'm not a US citizen yet so voting isn't possible. Only thing I could do is vote with my feet... so I moved out of Texas for good earlier this year. I think my current location is as safe as it gets in regards to avoiding political violence (since I'm not exactly in a group that the right isn't threatening) so there's that

Other than that? Nothing... If the worst happens I'll just hole-up in the building and ask my boss for permission to work from home

I feel you on voting with your feet. I left beet-red Indiana for a Democratic-leaning swing state a few years ago. And yet, once you get outside the city by just a few minutes, it’s Trump signs everywhere. Doesn’t feel very reassuring.

It’s cliche to talk about moving to Canada after a US election, but I have started to collect my passport and papers and look at multiple countries for ease of entry, in case shit hits the fan.

If you don't have a valuable skill/trade or family to sponsor you, moving to another country is not typically an option for most people. Also probably the worst time to move to Canada as there is a growing anti immigrant sentiment.

Fortunately, I have advanced degrees and an internationally recognized professional certification, and my partner is a doctor. I don’t imagine emigrating would be easy by any stretch, but I think we’d have better odds than if we didn’t have those credentials.

Good point on Canada. I’ve also been looking at Panama or Costa Rica. Europe may be an option (I work in clean energy and remember Macron’s outreach to climate scientists after Trump withdrew from the Paris Agreement), but may be harder.

I'm going to be in Hawaii for Election day. I already voted. Nothing more I can do personally. Gotta focus on the controllables in life. Going to try n enjoy paradise and tune it out as much as I can.

Compartmentalization. I only focus on what I can control. I read local news and mostly ignore national stuff because it is beyond my ability to affect change.

"Loosen your shoes
Don't listen to news
That keeps you up at night."

  • Chris Smither

https://youtu.be/djzR7594I1U

You just get an upvote for Chris Smither. Leave the Light On, Time Stands Still, his cover of Visions of Johanna, plus a dozen others... all brilliant.

I used to be worried about having to idle on a hill while driving a manual transmission vehicle. Like backsweat.

But I got used to it. Time and practice. You start to see all the subtle motions and patterns; you start to know what you didn't know you didn't know.

Now it is just a basic part of the driving experience. It's a road condition, like weather. Voting, especially in federal elections and especially the general one every four years for president, is not the only or even the main course of politics.

Same story with parallel parking--which would be, I dunno: primary voting in this metaphor. Where the promise of a better way gets crammed between two other poorly parked cars and you always end up a few inches too far from the curb.

Simply ignore the media. Nearly all of them are owned my synclar entertainment and are designed to keep you mad and engaged for more money.

Cut off the corporation news helped me considerably with my mental health. Also cutting out fascist pro Trump people in my life helped a lot.

Remember the media is designed for keep you mad sad and fucked up so they get more and more views and clicks. Do not engage, and your life will be considerably better.

There is really nothing you can do about it besides wait and see. Just surround yourself self with things/people you love. Ignore political anything sense it's nothing really going to change anything doom scrolling it.

Get informed, vote, try to change things in your small circles and just live your life and cut out the things/people who actively are trying to enrage and anger you.

There's no stress. There is zero that I can do about any of it other than vote. And where I'm at my vote really doesn't mean anything. I'm still going to vote, but my state isn't going to even come close to turning red.

If he wins I need to make an ernest attempt to find a quiet far away place to get the fuck out.

We're honestly just kind of stuck in the track we're in. With the current state of affairs we need billionaires who are okay with being taxed to send sufficient amounts of money into campaigns and fight off corporate entities on our behalf to no benefit of their own. Back in the Nixon and Reagan days we had a chance to have voices heard and run protests and stamp out some of the corruption but we're well past that now.

We need to put laws in place to stop the propaganda engines into wrest power from the oligarchs. But even the left doesn't truly want all that to happen.

Stay busy. Get your to-do list done. Take overtime shifts. Spend the angsty energy so it doesn’t turn inward and render your gut into sieve.

I’ve made my peace with either result. If Harris wins, I’ll assume it’ll be relative status quo and a continuation of the last four years, a slow-motion decline. If Trump wins, our deaths are assured and everything falls to shit that much sooner. There may be some personal benefits and opportunities I can try to take advantage of before we all die, but none of it will really matter in the end. My personal romantic life is in such a shitty spot right now that I honestly don’t really care anymore.

I think this is the key right here. The election is important, but most of us have far more immediate concerns.

I'm just going to do what I've always done in all the other elections I've partaken in.

I'm going to mark my choices, I'm gonna submit the ballot, I'm going to resume life as normal. Then when election day comes, I'm just going to go to sleep. I don't want to be up to see the polls.

If Harris wins, then great, because that just means that we're not going to have another nightmare circus for 4 more years.

If Trump somehow wins, then I will mute myself from the world almost like I did for the 4 years we had with him. It was just a blur.

... That said, I’m part of many groups that the right-wing hates and is openly threatening, so feeling unsafe doesn’t feel unreasonable either.

i'm at the intersection of several groups that right wingers hate and all of them are fodder for this election when it comes to immigration; lgbt rights; the social safety net; and neuro divergence visibility. the goal is to make you feel unsafe and, to be clear, you should ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings in this country if you're any kind of minority.

How are you all holding up out there? And tips for me to deal with this better?

i'm doing okay because i've seen this playbook used multiple times since the 1980's starting with biden and now with trump. minorities have always been excellent political fodder used to invigorate voting bases for as long as elections have existed and; up until recently; it had only been used for scapegoating. starting in the 2012 election, it was used for liberal virtue signaling and now the harris campaigned has REALLY perfected it as a cudgel to attack both the left and the right. they use it against the right to show how regressive the republicans are and they use it against the left to paint them as selfish/stupid for throwing minorities under the bus.

i was scared too the first time i heard biden's anti-gay tirade in 1988 and then when clinton did anti-gay marriage in 1996 it started to dawn on me that it was a political ploy. they trot us out like show horses when they think it'll help their cause. so i think that the best tip i can give you is to read up on the history of the last 40 or so years worth of elections to help you get a broader perspective of our political system so that you can manage that fear you're carrying around inside you and also to see how the only thing that's different about it this time around is the STAGGERING amounts of difficult to trace campaign donations (thanks citizens united) and all the fuckery it's enabled.

Daydreaming about getting out of here and moving to like laos and farming or some shit

You don't want that.

You are correct, I probably would not enjoy it as much as I tell myself I will. Especially with how climate change is going to affect that country and with the risk of buried explosives killing me, but its a nice thought. Laos is a very beautiful country that I wouldn't mind spending a long time in and the history is rich. The work that would be required of me wouldn't be easy but it could be freeing. I imagine I romanticize the "simple" life as often as I do because it is essentially out of my reach.