I wish humans could get firmware upgrades

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-bug fix: anxiety has been reduced by 50% -bug fix: memory has been buffed by 50% -bug fix: removed reoccurring memories of past failures

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You can, it's called therapy.

Which, like every mental health treatment, only works for a subset of people.

Most of my friends who have tried therapy just leave after a session or two and claim their problems have gone away, dodge further sessions and never actually gave it a real try. Then a week later they will go through the same issues again. It sucks to see them this way.. I've tried to help them to go to therapy consistently but very few actually do.

You can't solve 20 years worth of emotional issues in a few sessions.. it takes years of therapy to actually get better. Not to mention societal stigma against going to therapy makes it even harder.

Years of therapy cost a LOT of money though, not everyone can afford that.

As the pizza hoe mentioned, it's very country dependent. Where I live, therapists are, like other medical specialists, paid from taxes, so free at the point of use (not all of them, they need some licenses etc.). Or you can pay for them out of pocket if you want.

I agree but this is very location dependent. I live in India and an hour of therapy session costs around 15$(average bill if two people eat at a normal restaurant to put things into perspective).

If you can't afford that, don't worry as many not for profit organisations exist which will help you with free therapy. But this comes at the cost of therapists who themselves are paid like shit. But none of this applies to my friends because their job is ready to pay(your boss can't find out you go to therapy btw) in case they want therapy but they still are hesitant. It's more to do with how people will perceive you if they hear you're going to therapy.

Woah, that's awesome. I live in Italy and my therapist asked for €80/hour. I eventually had to choose between daily expenses, university fees and therapy, and the latter was, unfortunately, the one I decided to cut.

Yeah, but when therapy costs $100-$200 per session and is not always covered by health insurance (in the US at least) what else are you going to do? In most places in the US it’s also very very very hard to get in to see an actual Psychologist, and nigh on impossible to get in to a Psychiatrist, so most people are stuck with LSCWs who are not competent at all, and often times make matters worse. Mental healthcare in the US is an absolute joke.

https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage/mental-health-substance-abuse-coverage/

Boom, look what government regulation of healthcare can do.

That is only if you get healthcare through the ACA healthcare marketplace. Those plans cost upward of $400 a month. While private healthcare plans do sometimes cover mental healthcare, you then have to find a mental healthcare provider that accepts your health insurance. They are not required to accept all healthcare plans and that can mean you have to drive 1+ hours away for mental health appointments. Under my insurance the closest psychiatrist that takes me healthcare is two hours away, and they have an eight month wait list. That was the one I got to actually call me back to find that out. The other ones 2+ hours away never even bothered to call me back.

I got tried to get on the wait list for the local healthcare group that has a few psychologists on staff last October. They told me it would be two months before someone reached out to me to set up an actual appointment. It is now August 2023 and I’ve still never been contacted.

No, ACA compliant plans are the standard, including employer-sponsored plans.

Every ACA compliant plan has the same list of minimum coverages, including the above.

Every state-run plan under Medicare and Medicaid are also ACA compliant.

If you've chosen a non-compliant plan, or opted to skip your state's healthcare exchange, or are unlucky enough to live in a state where Republicans have tried to fuck you over by not expanding Medicaid under the ACA, I'm sorry.

None of those things, though, affect the mental healthcare provider shortage in this country, though. If you're still waiting for an appointment, perhaps you should call back and check for open slots regularly?

Many people can get the same results by talking to a plastic duck or doing nothing at all. It works for some people, the rest of us consider it a pseudoscience at best.

Edit: That comes off harsh, I'm not taking shots at anyone who it works for or who helps others with it.

Then don't think about it as a science, but as getting help from someone trained to help you. As an example, do you need firefighters to be scientists to get help from them when your house is burning?

Kind of yeah, air currents are basically fluid dynamics.

I have gone through some trauma therapy that has helped where no talk therapy has been able to. There are lots of studies showing the effectiveness too. Look up EMDR or brain spotting.

I really just have to push back on the "doing nothing at all" or "talking to a rubber duck" piece because I'd been trying that for years and trauma flashbacks don't seem just go away on their own.

Brainspotting has been lifechanging for me. Took me decades to find it though.

So it works for you and that's okay. That's why I made the edit.

I still somewhat take issue with that characterization though. It doesn't just "work for me and that's okay," it works period. It has been clinically shown to work for other people too. I only say this because spreading misinformation about it being "pseudoscience" and ineffective only serves to continue some people's pain and never find an effective treatment for them, and I believe that's potentially dangerous.

Buddy, I'm not telling you it doesn't work for you. But you have no problem whatsoever dictating to me that it works for me which it absolutely does not in any way. It's a waste of my time and energy that yields nothing of value at all.

You might want to do some of that introspection on this issue you seem to have. Or talk to your therapist about it if it works for you.

Buddy, I'm not telling you it will work for you. I'm talking about on the whole we have scientific evidence to prove that it is effective. I'm literally only responding to your claim that "therapy is pseudoscience." No need to get so defensive.

I know the evidence says that therapy works in general, but yeah, it’s difficult to believe. And to be honest, I’d rather take a pill than talk to a therapist, all else being equal.

Well, I can only advise to at least try it.

And keep trying until you find the right therapist/therapy that works for you. There is huge variation in quality and effectiveness.

Not only quality but different therapists belong to different "branches" and every branch has its strengths and weaknesses when dealing with specific problems. A good therapist should recommend going to someone of different branch if they feel it would be better for you.

Patch Notes v2.0:

  • Fixed a bug where you would freak out for no reason. Anxiety levels now reduced by 50% - enjoy a smoother, calmer and more stable experience!

  • Upgraded memory capacity by 50%. Say goodbye to forgetting where you put your keys or that one relative who changed your diaper once. You're welcome!

  • Removed those pesky 'Remember that time you embarrassed yourself in front of everyone?' pop ups. Time to move on, folks! No more cringe-filled flashbacks from now on.

Stay tuned for more updates on the Human OS and also a huge thanks to our contributors.

Damn it, when are they going to add the 'sex drive is now equal to partner's' feature?!

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Bug fix: your tongue and cheeks no longer get bit by your own teeth while eating

-bug fix: enable vitamin c generation ability -bug fix: enable tooth enamel regeneration

-Empathy attribute improved by 50% -bug fix: some players' Empathy attribute was below baseline; these players have had their Empathy attribute reset to baseline.

Absolutely, one of the best ones yet. Thank you.

You're welcome. I'm saving that one in case I ever stumble upon a genie or something. Honestly, If there was such a thing as God, there's no way he could be worse at his job than I would be.

patch out the bug that causes eyelashes to have a chance to fall into the eye

  • bug fix: you can now go to a room without forgetting the reason you went there
  • bug fix: you can now produce your own vitamin C again

Oh yeah! finally fixed that anxie- Segmentation fault (core dumped)

No you don't. You want to learn how to properly run your hardware.

  • anxiety serves a purpose, forces your fight or flight response, develops survival instinct

  • memory is not meant to be heidetic as not everything is vital information; you want to remember what you had for lunch when you were 3 years old, on a tuesday, mid january?

  • failures are more important than successes; failure teaches you what does not work.

Run your hardware better. Have some therapy, try to sleep more/better and go for a daily walk.

Remembering every day of your life is not eidetic memory but Hyperthymesia. Anxiety serves a purpose if there's a danger. If it's prolonged and the danger is some thought inside your head no it doesn't.

Remembering every day of your life is not eidetic memory but Hyperthymesia.

New word of the day. Thank you.

Anxiety serves a purpose if there's a danger. If it's prolonged and the danger is some thought inside your head no it doesn't.

Learn how to manage your hardware better. Get some therapy.

Been fighting anxiety since 1996 with therapy and drugs. So far, she won.

Don't quit.

Sincerely hope you can resolve that issue.

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What do you think vaccines and gene therapy are? :P

I think they should call them bugfixes.

What's their marketing doing?

Genius. I love it for so many reasons, not least of all is the knowledge that "bug" also pertains to sickness, and "fix" can mean a dose of drugs. Calling a vaccine a "bug fix" is perfectly on the nose. 🤣

Cursed Monkey Paw:

Wish Granted. You get regular firmware updates, just like HP printers do.

I'd give my left nut for the allergy update.

Particular human has too many nuts. Removed left nut and replaced with nut allergy.

Statistically speaking the average human has less than one nut.

Isn't this technically a vaccine? I suppose that's more like Avast for your body

It's more of a malware definitions update for the antivirus your body already ships with.

-new bug: Due to forgetting of past failure, there is now reoccurring failures.

No thanks, seen too many bad updates to want to let myself get bricked by a bad update.

Is that how I ended up with crippling depression and anxiety?

That's another way of saying "bricked".

Seriously, I hope yours is just a joke, but if it's not, kudos for the self irony.

Humans have them. But they are like Linux drivers and upgrades. You have to look for them as invest a lot of. Tike to actually improve.

This is the meditation update that you're looking for

Sure, but you always download the latest bugs.

-known issue: audio skips every 10s

Reading books, studying, learning new things, is our way to update our firmware to make new things, or give us new tools to fight anxiety or depression.

Also, to improve your math skills, you have to do maths often, and the brain will get better at it.

The brain is like a muscle that you can train to become stronger at things that hurt you or better at things that you need.

What if the pain is so bad i can't remember or study things? I think i could use a proper firmware update to fix that.

Fixed a bug where the human would sometimes procrastinate too much, saying "It's a problem of my future self".

Can I get a perceived attractiveness buff plz

Also, combined sex and waste organs; awful idea.

Human babies need a buff, they're functionally useless for far too long. Other mammals can stand immediately.

Way too many incompatible preference traits. Cheese being delicious but also requiring to enslave another being for manufacturing, with a 50/50 chance it makes your asshole explode. Way too chaotic.

Human babies need a buff, they're functionally useless for far too long.

Capitalism now wants to extract value from babies??

I'm not talking about exploiting them (and even if we could the value would be infinitesimally small). From a gameplay perspective it's just boring. Everything is out of your control. Even if you get a shit start you can't reroll, you have to deal with it for literally YEARS.

Not to mention the sound they make is so aggravating that older male players want to kill them to be quiet. It's a good thing one of the beta updates made babies heads produce a chemical which dulls aggression in males and heightens protective traits in females.

You actually have to work on yourself to get those upgrades. Takes a bit of effort but can be done.

Sadly they don't teach people anything about how to handle their emotions in school, so people never even attempt to get some skills in that area.

If you don't know how to master your emotions, you will never become a jedi.

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I'd be Windows. Constantly rebooting every five minutes

BSOD

McConnell?

That was just an inconvenient update that happened at the wrong time. Like when your laptop decides to update during a critical PowerPoint presentation at a business meeting.

we only get firmware corruption as we age

You can. I go on a 2 week Mahasi vipassana silent meditation retreat each year and each time the release notes make it worth the time and effort. Also like running defrag on a disk that has been defragged regurlarly, it runs smoother each time, making the whole experience much more pleasurable.

Release notes last retreat:

  • Fixed approval seeking issue due to lack of approval by clueless dad during teenage years
  • Reduced day dreaming by 10% by recognizing mechanisms that lead to day dreaming
  • Optimized routines for dealing with tough situations
  • Increased mindfulness by eliminating several mechanisms that lead to mindlesness
  • Discovered access to high concentration states that likely will lead to more discoveries
  • Fixed loneliness issue due to missed update
  • Fixed part of a (self and others) judgement issue. More work on this issue needed.

The above is a pretty accurate representation of the results I got.

No, you actually say you want to solve your problems without any work from your part, sorry no can do.

Even for a firmware update somebody has to code and work in the background, only the update process itself it's simpler (if you don't consider the work involved in creating the update mechanism and infrastructure itself).

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essentially that is what mythology has been for humanity. Too bad now we just let advertising borrow the techniques without education the population how it works.

It sure would be great to not do any of the work yourself, huh?

It sure would be great if doing the work actually lead to change for everyone.

For many it does not.

I was saying it would be great to not have to do any of the work. Firmware is generally created by a group of developers. I mean we’re all mostly nerds here though, so maybe the wrong crowd to even say such a thing.