MediaMatters: "Here's evidence Musk is an antisemite."
Elon: "I'm suing you for speaking freely!"
Is it really thermonuclear if it can easily be dismissed with a couple of screenshots? And he is trying to allege fraud. This is the flimsiest crybaby tantrum he has had yet.
Right? The media matters article screenshots clearly prove it’s allegations. Unless he tries the angle that they were photoshopped (and obviously he needs proof for it) this gets dismissed immediately.
Hoping it doesn’t cost media matters anything or that they can recoup any fees they may incur from this. Nice to have real reporting with proof to back it up like they showed.
Maybe he meant thermonuclear in the sense that it is mutually assured destruction because, as most trigger happy lawsuit threats tend to forget, a lawsuit means discovery. So a lot more dirt about Xitter and Musk would have to become public record.
It's not even mutually-assured, though. It's a kamikaze attack doomed to miss.
This is a funny way to spell 'frivolous' when describing a lawsuit
Musk throws thermonuclear tantrum
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I wouldn't put it past him to eat grandiose for breakfast even if it's some bacon and eggs wrapped in edible gold and glass full of his own magnificent piss.
Barratry should still be illegal
Well I just learned a new word. Also wikipedia says it is in some places.
Interesting. Essentially, the act of supporting a barrister. Clever.
This dumb fuck is about to be proven to be a bigot in a US court of law, isn't he? Discovery & the inevitable counter-suit is going to be 🍿🍿🍿🍿
Legally defined as a bigot is almost as good as one alex jone's lackies legally being a puppet
“Above everything, including profit, X works to protect the public’s right to free speech. But for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable,” he added.
It’s important to note that one of Musk’s lawyers, not Musk himself, made this statement. That’s because lawyers are immune to levels of irony that would be lethal to an ordinary human.
Yup. Freedom isn't force, we can all just choose to not look at that shit even if it's allowed to exist in a dark corner
as he has clearly abandoned his handlers, his outward communication gets worse and worse. hes like a stroke victim that refuses assistance, and is declining.
Sounds like every maga republican. Strange they share the same ethos.
"We must allow all free speech!"
"OK so I can choose to take my ads somewhere else"
"Wait no not like that"
Musk, the richest man in the world, said today that he will be 'holding his breath until everyone is nice to him'. The statement came as advertisers grew concerned about being associated with blatant antisemitism. A statement released by Apple claims that Musk is 'acting up for attention and needs a timeout and possibly a nap.' Musk responded with a post to X, formerly a semi-legitimate social media platform, that 'Apple is a big meanie who is in bed with the Jews. '
"Above everything, including profit, X works to protect the public’s right to free speech. But for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable,” he added.
Good to know you believe in free speech. Elmo. So you won't mind if companies exercise that right by choosing not to advertise on your racist, apartheid-loving network.
But for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable,” he added._
And the freedom to say "that's objectionable" and choose not to be associated with it.
Elon wants people to have the freedom to hear and see shit that makes them sick, but doesn't want them to have the freedom to leave it's presence.
Elon's a pretty twisted little shit, isn't he?
That's not freedom of speech, that's freedom of association. Different freedoms. Your point remakns though, I'm not arguing, just pointing that out.
Freedom of speech is connected to freedom of association, which also includes the freedom to not speak and to not associate (ie. halting advertising)
Also doesn't freedom of speech not apply to companies
Pretty sure it only applies to the government
Why do we keep giving this guy a platform? Do we really care that much about twitter and his stupid shenanigans
Actually we need to keep publicizing his ridiculousness so those that worship him might finally realize he’s not some genius ™. I had a friend recently tell me that Musk was probably the smartest person on the planet right now. I had to explain - as gently as possible so as not to offend those who think others are the snowflakes - that Musk is the very definition of starting on third base and thinking you hit a triple. My buddy gets plenty of propaganda telling him how great Musk is, there needs to be plenty of balance.
NOTE: Before you tell me, yes, I know that brainwashed people don’t just change their mind, and it probably won’t make a difference. But we shouldn’t let these lines of thought go unchallenged.
In this case, I feel it's important to push donations to Media Matters.
It isn't fair or right that the rich can just sue what they see as opposition into oblivion. I hope in this case that Media Matters or others sue/counter sue Elon and make his life extra miserable.
We as in Lemmy users probably don't care about Twitter at all. But there are 100s of Millions of active Twitter users, so it's no surprise this is in the news.
If we as Lemmy users didn’t care, it wouldn’t be posted and upvoted.
It's sitting at 2 points as the time of writing this. Not very popular
It may only show as two points on your instance. On mine it’s at 34 ups and 2 downs.
Sorry, I'm still learning how Lemmy works! Lol
Well, he owns and operates his own platform, where he's making it terribly easy for fascists to fasc. His space vehicles and communications satellites are being depended on by major world powers. He's got the largest electric vehicle charging infrastructure in the western hemisphere, if not the world.
Like it or not, his shenanigans affect us all.
We are forced to care because Twitter and the twit running it have political influence. I sure would like for that to cease to be the case, but until it is we don't have the luxury of ignoring it.
Because as someone with an obscene amount of money, power and influence he needs to be scrutinised and his every word and action examined.
It is pretty entertaining...
Some say Orson Wells Citizen Kane is the best movie ever made. We love to see the mighty fall.
I don't know that many people say that because of the story though. It created many of the cinematography methods we still use today. Before it, movies were generally just recreating stage plays in front of a camera. Every scene a stationary shot framing the whole room. No real transitions. For Citizen Kane they tore apart the roof and floor to allow for a camera to get moving shots zooming into a scene and angles not often used before. It changed the way people thought of movies and what they could be. People do love watching the slow decline of the powerful, but that movie is considered one of the best movies for other reasons.
Citizen Kane is recognized for many different reasons, and that's one. But, in essence, the story is the film. Wells masterpiece was the result of a feud he had with William Randolph Hearst, so he brought him down on film. Wells also had the strange habit of divorcing wives and killing them off in one of his movies.
"Has our company ever made bad business decisions? Well, we once bought advertising from Twitter. Don't do that. In the calm, rational, well-weighed opinion of our company, Musk is a massive crybaby and dealing with him is such a fucking fucking headache." - overheard in a business seminar, 2024
Never huff your own hype.
i bet he sits in his car smelling his own farts
I’m sure all those big companies are really worried.
But her boss (Elon) last night endorsed the pernicious antisemitic conspiracy theory that Jewish people are supporting “hordes of minorities” who are “flooding” into the country to replace white people.
Ouch.
I think that is called "Immigration" but the nuance might be lost to some people.
It Also how genetic diversity works. Which the nuance might also be lost to some people. But this is how complex organism cycle out traits they don't use anymore and adapt to traits they do need. We call this Evolution.
But to say some population could control this process is laughable. I would think global warming would be our sign, we don't have nature under control to that degree.
And for sure, not by people who are bouncing around the idea of population replacement as a real theory.
supporting free speech by suing people for speech in the attempt to limit speech. I'm not saying media shouldn't be held accountable but in the age of PR bullshit do words mean things anymore?
Believing there are limits to free speech is not a crazy thing but just say what you mean. Media watchdog said things you don't like so you're suing them.
he wishes he had actual nukes.. that's the one thing in this world he really, really wants..
That's why he's been making rockets, so that when he gets his hands on warheads, he already has a launch vehicle.
something I hadn't considered until right now is what if spaceX gets a contract for replacement ICBM launch vehicles or for a new whole weapon. Seeing what he does with Tesla and the owners lack of real ownership could be a warning sign
I really want to see him fall on his face suing people who choose to not do business at the nazi bar, then try to sue the ADL for pointing out he runs the nazi bar. Please, please, let him spend whatever he has left on this....
Ok can we agree to stop talking about MuskyBoy?
Who's upvoting this shit?
i think it's pretty funny to see this guy destroy everything he comes into contact with. we already have agreed that this guy is an idiot, so we can just circlejerk until this all goes away.
The word you're looking for is schadenfreude
What if I'm not actually ashamed to enjoy it?
I'm not sure it applies when the guy is the sole source of all his problems
thermonuclear lawsuit
Downvoted, ignored, bad journalism. This is frivolous
This is a win for the status quo bloods and crips.
To me, there is a lot to bash Musk on, but the twitter files confirmed and should have enlightened many of the problems we currently have with politicians/media/corporations being in bed with each other.
This seems similar to the Russiagate stories pushed by legacy media.
Smearing opposition of the status quo, then once the population believes the lies, the truth starts to comes out years later by MSM journalists.
I make mistakes and I am willing to learn, so please if anyone can articulate and explain in detail?
Why all the baseless hate against Musk, while we already know enough about how he treats his workers to be against him. No need to be hostile or to lie when talking about him.
Why all the baseless hate against Musk
Well, you managed one of many reasons yourself...
we already know enough about how he treats his workers to be against him.
Yes, but this article seems to be a smear of MSM.
Due to not siding with Israel and instead talking of ceasefire or peace, same with Ukraine/Russia.
Looking at the talk he had with Lex Fridman.
"Not siding with Israel" is much different than using the largest social media account in the world to post Nazi-baiting comments and imply that Jewish people are ruining America. Most of what Elon is actually saying about Jewish people is entirely unrelated to the current conflict in the middle East.
but the twitter files confirmed
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I know, right? I can't believe someone is still unironically citing the twitter files, as if they did anything but prove that musk and his acolytes were just creating drama
Do you think the same of leaks done by journalists of how our military functions?
Your comment does not help, you should have tried to use sentences to help educate me or to state your thinking process.
The twitter files were a bunch of nothing.
The releases were cherry picked and still didn't show anything wrong.
SHOCKED that you're in here tongue-punching his balloon knot
Go back to rumble dude
Did you not read all of my response.
Consistency is required when looking at the problems we have.
This is happenong to Musk, but the same happens to people on the left.
Smears happen without proof, just for going against the status quo.
This seems to be a smear for not siding with Israel, and calling for peace.
Your response does not help make your point, it does the opposite.
I am not sure what you are trying to get across.
Reminds me of Trump derangement syndrome.
Again, we have enough to bash Musk as is, no need to lie or make up things.
What do you mean without proof? Did you see the post the Musk said “is absolute truth”. Even Musk is not denying that that happened.
Trump derangement syndrome is where a person believes that Trump can do no wrong, is exceptionally strong and intelligent, and has been anointed by god to save the world from liberal vermin. It is rampant on twitter and among musk fanatics.
Gods, season 1 Sansa was such a snarky bitch. Crazy she went from that to the Lady of Winterfell.
Tbh, If someone cut my dad's head off and forced me to marry the murder I'd be snarky too
She was snarky well before that happened.
I thought early Sansa was quite timid.
Except this shot is before that. She says this line to Septa Mordane in season 1 episode 6.
Elon: "100% free speech, always!"
MediaMatters: "Here's evidence Musk is an antisemite."
Elon: "I'm suing you for speaking freely!"
Is it really thermonuclear if it can easily be dismissed with a couple of screenshots? And he is trying to allege fraud. This is the flimsiest crybaby tantrum he has had yet.
Right? The media matters article screenshots clearly prove it’s allegations. Unless he tries the angle that they were photoshopped (and obviously he needs proof for it) this gets dismissed immediately.
Hoping it doesn’t cost media matters anything or that they can recoup any fees they may incur from this. Nice to have real reporting with proof to back it up like they showed.
Maybe he meant thermonuclear in the sense that it is mutually assured destruction because, as most trigger happy lawsuit threats tend to forget, a lawsuit means discovery. So a lot more dirt about Xitter and Musk would have to become public record.
It's not even mutually-assured, though. It's a kamikaze attack doomed to miss.
This is a funny way to spell 'frivolous' when describing a lawsuit
Musk throws thermonuclear tantrum
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I wouldn't put it past him to eat grandiose for breakfast even if it's some bacon and eggs wrapped in edible gold and glass full of his own magnificent piss.
Barratry should still be illegal
Well I just learned a new word. Also wikipedia says it is in some places.
Interesting. Essentially, the act of supporting a barrister. Clever.
This dumb fuck is about to be proven to be a bigot in a US court of law, isn't he? Discovery & the inevitable counter-suit is going to be 🍿🍿🍿🍿
Donate to Media Matters here.
Legally defined as a bigot is almost as good as one alex jone's lackies legally being a puppet
It’s important to note that one of Musk’s lawyers, not Musk himself, made this statement. That’s because lawyers are immune to levels of irony that would be lethal to an ordinary human.
Yup. Freedom isn't force, we can all just choose to not look at that shit even if it's allowed to exist in a dark corner
as he has clearly abandoned his handlers, his outward communication gets worse and worse. hes like a stroke victim that refuses assistance, and is declining.
Sounds like every maga republican. Strange they share the same ethos.
"We must allow all free speech!"
"OK so I can choose to take my ads somewhere else"
"Wait no not like that"
Musk, the richest man in the world, said today that he will be 'holding his breath until everyone is nice to him'. The statement came as advertisers grew concerned about being associated with blatant antisemitism. A statement released by Apple claims that Musk is 'acting up for attention and needs a timeout and possibly a nap.' Musk responded with a post to X, formerly a semi-legitimate social media platform, that 'Apple is a big meanie who is in bed with the Jews. '
"Above everything, including profit, X works to protect the public’s right to free speech. But for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable,” he added.
Good to know you believe in free speech. Elmo. So you won't mind if companies exercise that right by choosing not to advertise on your racist, apartheid-loving network.
And the freedom to say "that's objectionable" and choose not to be associated with it.
Elon wants people to have the freedom to hear and see shit that makes them sick, but doesn't want them to have the freedom to leave it's presence.
Elon's a pretty twisted little shit, isn't he?
That's not freedom of speech, that's freedom of association. Different freedoms. Your point remakns though, I'm not arguing, just pointing that out.
Freedom of speech is connected to freedom of association, which also includes the freedom to not speak and to not associate (ie. halting advertising)
Also doesn't freedom of speech not apply to companies
Pretty sure it only applies to the government
Why do we keep giving this guy a platform? Do we really care that much about twitter and his stupid shenanigans
Actually we need to keep publicizing his ridiculousness so those that worship him might finally realize he’s not some genius ™. I had a friend recently tell me that Musk was probably the smartest person on the planet right now. I had to explain - as gently as possible so as not to offend those who think others are the snowflakes - that Musk is the very definition of starting on third base and thinking you hit a triple. My buddy gets plenty of propaganda telling him how great Musk is, there needs to be plenty of balance.
NOTE: Before you tell me, yes, I know that brainwashed people don’t just change their mind, and it probably won’t make a difference. But we shouldn’t let these lines of thought go unchallenged.
In this case, I feel it's important to push donations to Media Matters.
It isn't fair or right that the rich can just sue what they see as opposition into oblivion. I hope in this case that Media Matters or others sue/counter sue Elon and make his life extra miserable.
We as in Lemmy users probably don't care about Twitter at all. But there are 100s of Millions of active Twitter users, so it's no surprise this is in the news.
If we as Lemmy users didn’t care, it wouldn’t be posted and upvoted.
It's sitting at 2 points as the time of writing this. Not very popular
It may only show as two points on your instance. On mine it’s at 34 ups and 2 downs.
Sorry, I'm still learning how Lemmy works! Lol
Well, he owns and operates his own platform, where he's making it terribly easy for fascists to fasc. His space vehicles and communications satellites are being depended on by major world powers. He's got the largest electric vehicle charging infrastructure in the western hemisphere, if not the world.
Like it or not, his shenanigans affect us all.
We are forced to care because Twitter and the twit running it have political influence. I sure would like for that to cease to be the case, but until it is we don't have the luxury of ignoring it.
Because as someone with an obscene amount of money, power and influence he needs to be scrutinised and his every word and action examined.
It is pretty entertaining...
Some say Orson Wells Citizen Kane is the best movie ever made. We love to see the mighty fall.
I don't know that many people say that because of the story though. It created many of the cinematography methods we still use today. Before it, movies were generally just recreating stage plays in front of a camera. Every scene a stationary shot framing the whole room. No real transitions. For Citizen Kane they tore apart the roof and floor to allow for a camera to get moving shots zooming into a scene and angles not often used before. It changed the way people thought of movies and what they could be. People do love watching the slow decline of the powerful, but that movie is considered one of the best movies for other reasons.
Citizen Kane is recognized for many different reasons, and that's one. But, in essence, the story is the film. Wells masterpiece was the result of a feud he had with William Randolph Hearst, so he brought him down on film. Wells also had the strange habit of divorcing wives and killing them off in one of his movies.
Never huff your own hype.
i bet he sits in his car smelling his own farts
I’m sure all those big companies are really worried.
Ouch.
I think that is called "Immigration" but the nuance might be lost to some people.
It Also how genetic diversity works. Which the nuance might also be lost to some people. But this is how complex organism cycle out traits they don't use anymore and adapt to traits they do need. We call this Evolution.
But to say some population could control this process is laughable. I would think global warming would be our sign, we don't have nature under control to that degree.
And for sure, not by people who are bouncing around the idea of population replacement as a real theory.
🎯
To racist, far right, and qanon adjacent morons it's "the great replacement".
supporting free speech by suing people for speech in the attempt to limit speech. I'm not saying media shouldn't be held accountable but in the age of PR bullshit do words mean things anymore?
Believing there are limits to free speech is not a crazy thing but just say what you mean. Media watchdog said things you don't like so you're suing them.
he wishes he had actual nukes.. that's the one thing in this world he really, really wants..
That's why he's been making rockets, so that when he gets his hands on warheads, he already has a launch vehicle.
something I hadn't considered until right now is what if spaceX gets a contract for replacement ICBM launch vehicles or for a new whole weapon. Seeing what he does with Tesla and the owners lack of real ownership could be a warning sign
I really want to see him fall on his face suing people who choose to not do business at the nazi bar, then try to sue the ADL for pointing out he runs the nazi bar. Please, please, let him spend whatever he has left on this....
Ok can we agree to stop talking about MuskyBoy?
Who's upvoting this shit?
i think it's pretty funny to see this guy destroy everything he comes into contact with. we already have agreed that this guy is an idiot, so we can just circlejerk until this all goes away.
The word you're looking for is schadenfreude
What if I'm not actually ashamed to enjoy it?
I'm not sure it applies when the guy is the sole source of all his problems
Downvoted, ignored, bad journalism. This is frivolous
This is a win for the status quo bloods and crips.
To me, there is a lot to bash Musk on, but the twitter files confirmed and should have enlightened many of the problems we currently have with politicians/media/corporations being in bed with each other.
This seems similar to the Russiagate stories pushed by legacy media.
Smearing opposition of the status quo, then once the population believes the lies, the truth starts to comes out years later by MSM journalists.
I make mistakes and I am willing to learn, so please if anyone can articulate and explain in detail?
Why all the baseless hate against Musk, while we already know enough about how he treats his workers to be against him. No need to be hostile or to lie when talking about him.
Well, you managed one of many reasons yourself...
Yes, but this article seems to be a smear of MSM.
Due to not siding with Israel and instead talking of ceasefire or peace, same with Ukraine/Russia.
Looking at the talk he had with Lex Fridman.
"Not siding with Israel" is much different than using the largest social media account in the world to post Nazi-baiting comments and imply that Jewish people are ruining America. Most of what Elon is actually saying about Jewish people is entirely unrelated to the current conflict in the middle East.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I know, right? I can't believe someone is still unironically citing the twitter files, as if they did anything but prove that musk and his acolytes were just creating drama
Do you think the same of leaks done by journalists of how our military functions?
Your comment does not help, you should have tried to use sentences to help educate me or to state your thinking process.
The twitter files were a bunch of nothing.
The releases were cherry picked and still didn't show anything wrong.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/14/tech/twitter-files-content-moderation/index.html
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/05/twitter-admits-in-court-filing-elon-musk-is-simply-wrong-about-government-interference-at-twitter/
Then there's the literal Nazi content that musk is allowing.
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/11/17/as-elon-musk-endorses-bigoted-nonsense-advertisers-find-their-ads-on-nazi-content/
Thank you for the links and the reply!
Why is it anyone’s job to educate you?
SHOCKED that you're in here tongue-punching his balloon knot
Go back to rumble dude
Did you not read all of my response.
Consistency is required when looking at the problems we have.
This is happenong to Musk, but the same happens to people on the left.
Smears happen without proof, just for going against the status quo.
This seems to be a smear for not siding with Israel, and calling for peace.
Your response does not help make your point, it does the opposite.
I am not sure what you are trying to get across.
Reminds me of Trump derangement syndrome.
Again, we have enough to bash Musk as is, no need to lie or make up things.
What do you mean without proof? Did you see the post the Musk said “is absolute truth”. Even Musk is not denying that that happened.
Trump derangement syndrome is where a person believes that Trump can do no wrong, is exceptionally strong and intelligent, and has been anointed by god to save the world from liberal vermin. It is rampant on twitter and among musk fanatics.
That's a lot of hurrr durr.
Not sure what your point is.
Good luck!
I read these threads for the butthurt responses from the muskovites. They never disappoint.
I won't kink shame you, you do you!
Have a great day!
Ok , this is the Musk strategy:
When in trouble?: throw shit at the wall and see what sticks, it distracts the people from the main issue.
The main issue now is his endoresement of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White\_genocide\_conspiracy\_theory