"Okay, sooooo...with no tax revenue or money, zero education, and no energy.......that's still a country somehow right? How does this work????"
Doesn't DoE like do nuclear shit?
They also inform the nation's energy policies, meaning taking responsibility for federally funded energy transportation and coordination.
Those Texas price gouging electrical bills, they become nationwide under desantis.
Yeah, if we could just go ahead and not let Texas and Florida export their freedumb that’d be great.
That and more. They have a mandate for nuclear nonproliferation, but it’s more accurate to think of them as America’s R&D lab. The National Labs are fucking incredible! They are so much more than the DoD’s innovation lab. They do a ton of research that isn’t possible for the private sector. They also own and make available equipment that is difficult for individuals to maintain for example: Fermilabs has a particular accelerator, Sandia has the Z machine and a MEMS foundry, and Oak Ridge has one of the most powerful supercomputers and several labs focusing on neutron and nuclear power. Fuck just look up the patents and Nobel Prizes for Lawrence Livermore, Argonne, and Los Alamos. Yes there is a ton of nuclear but they cover so much more. They’re amazing and a national treasure!
The DoE issues security clearances just like the DoD.
Yup. They oversee the nuclear weapon stockpile, as well as all the fissile materials- including weapons grade stuff- in the US.
Yes.
Feudalism. We already live in a system of neo digital feudalism where you own nothing. DeSatan master of the Dick Handle state is aiming to bridge our digital and analog feudal future faster than it is happening without him.
Feudalist societies still have taxes. Traditionally it was laborors offering part of they harvest to the owners of the land on which they worked, which actually now that I say that just sounds like corporate america is a feudalist society. Gross.
But anyway, without money there would basically be no federal government as there's no way to pay any of them (except for the corrupt ones, so all the law makers are still there). With literally 0 money, we'd be in a perpetual government shutdown, and basically the 50 states would start acting as independent nations under their own ruleset. Sure, they could still adhere to federal will, but with what justification? If someone commits a federal crime that's not explicitly criminalized state-level, who's getting paid to prosecute? What incentive is the US giving to states to remain on the same page with national law? They can't even take any incentives away as punishment because they wouldn't have been able to pay for any existing incentives to begin with.
Maybe he thinks that it’ll just work like an honesty box. That would level things out actually because it does act like an honesty box for the super rich already.
You went wrong right off the bat there in your comment with "he thinks". Obviously incorrect.
We all buy guns and ammo and go mad max. DOJ exists but if there are enough crimes, it won't be paid enough to handle them all. Also, people would just kill cops with ACAB mentality. They'll run out eventually.
Guaranteed he has no idea what the department of energy does.
DeSantis is a Harvard law school grad and Navy lawyer, he absolutely has an idea what all of those governmental entities do, this is just him and the GOP trying to normalize the fascistic accumulation of power, step one of becoming a dictatorship.
It's just a step by step to purge the government, then whatever else, of undesirables while making an effort to destroy our government one piece at a time. Fascistic Libertarian hellscape here we come! (Also this is nothing new from them, just more open fascism)
You can have an advanced degree and still be ignorant about totally relevant facts. It's actually easier if you're ignorant about those facts, because you're more likely to believe the things you say that don't make sense.
I think you've accurately listed a lot of correct information, especially about the well-known plan that the GOP has been pushing for decades, but we shouldn't assume that the guy has knowledge about slightly obscure topics. I mean really, how many Americans actually looked into what the Department of Energy does?
Former Texas Governor Rick Perry didn't know what it was during a Primary debate.
No idea what DoC does either, clearly. This is the problem with these people- no idea WTF they're talking about and nobody holds them to account for that.
Most people don’t and it makes me sad. Our National Labs are fucking treasures but so few people know how much of an impact they have on our technology and lives.
Yeah.. same exact thought when I read the article.
Yeah, so what does he want to do with nuclear material along with all of the research around the country? I don't think people know that Energy is responsible for our nuclear stockpile. Not Defense.
Naw he'll just make the military responsible for all the nuclear stuff. It's the standard GOP response.
Reaganomics was a horrendous failure for this country, and nearly 50 years later here we are with Republicans pushing those policies again on the American people.
What DeSatan is talking about is a continuation of Reagan's terrible "Starve the Beast" policies.
Starve the Beast is a plan by conservatives to reduce funding for various government departments and programs to a level below which those entities can function properly. Salaries and equipment cost money. Below a certain level, you can't do your job properly. And that's what Republicans have been pushing for a few decades now. Cut funding for programs, and then claim those same programs aren't doing their job properly, and use that as the excuse to kill off those programs altogether.
It is a self fulfilling prophecy all so big business and the ultra rich can pollute more, hide their real wealth from taxes, and make our children dumb enough that future generations willingly vote Republican.
as president i promise to dismantle the whole government
It's more that he wants to destroy the regulatory systems that prevent companies from doing anything they want. This is a big step for fascism. Hitler and Mussolini both deregulated the markets and privatized everything they could. Fascism is simply Capitalism run rampant. After that they usually invade another country and create a slave labor force, which is why he wants to "go to war with the cartels."
As president I promise there to be no president.
Finally, a president true to their word
So no federal taxes; education; or commerce regulation?
Because that's going to end well.
About as well as every other decision DeSantis has made, yes.
This is the problem with a party whose entire political platform is to prove that government doesn't work. It wants dysfunction.
So basically the plan is to restore the late 1800s and be ruled by corporate barons
I've seen over 200 PragerU videos and they literally believe that it was a better time back then, and would actively invite a lower quality of average life if it meant they could execute the gays/asians/blacks
Of course they do.
Suppressed minorities and women? White men ruling EVERYTHING?
It's like their wet dream.
They miss it
Rule as* corporate barons
"Folks, I'm just gonna show up at your door, burn your house down, and claim the land. There are too many regulations, and quite honestly, you don't deserve them." -The next guy to up the ante.
Thunderous applause from the gomers
"I like him because he says what he means, unlike other politicians" -too damn much of the voting population
So he'd make the USA into a non-functional country? Sounds about right.
It's right on-brand for the Republican platform.
I mean that's been their goal for decades. You see it plainly in their attempts on the Post Office and Social Security. They want to privatize everything. Strip the government for parts and sell it all to private corporations. No Department of Energy? Guess we'll have to just let the power companies manage our grid with no oversight. No Department of Education? Guess your only options for education are for profit private schools if you can afford to attend them. No IRS to collect those pesky and complicated income taxes? Guess we'll have to switch to collecting everything via sales tax. Oh what's that? Not enough money? Good thing we have this Social Security trust fund that's just been sitting here not being used for Wall St speculationcollecting dust.
Good luck with infrastructure when you stop collecting taxes. What a clown.
100% this filthy meatball is ogling social security
Taking care of the elderly, even inadeqiately, is "woke"
If I can't get my social security I'll substitute robbing banks to support my retirement.
You can't get enough out of banks these days to justify the risk. What you want to do is rob jewelery stores.
I love how even his childish simplistic plan was over thought. Why get rid of all of them when the IRS will single handedly kill the country if eliminated. That military budget that gets R's so hard goes bye bye.
IRS. From the party of law and order.
And with the others, if there was any doubt it should now be crystal clear this is the party of burn it all down.
And, fiscal responsibility!
Or as Dick Cheney once said: "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."
It hasn’t been the party of law and order for decades at this point.
Nixon showed the cracks, Reagan opened the floodgates, and the Twice-Impeached One showed how far they can push people.
And unlike Rick Perry, he remembered all of them...
Remember when forgetting an item on a list would get you kicked out of the running for president?
Or just making a weird excited sound at a rally.
Or a weird excited sound while driving an M1 Abrams tank?
So his job is to look so bad that trump seems reasonable?
But if it gets support, also yay?
Russia/China are clearly playing the games the UK and the USA have around the world back on them.
Democracy is a nuisance for the fascist RW
And that's partially why he's so far behind Trump: because he's exceptionally stupid and can't read the room.
Shhhh. Hes brilliant and should keep telling the general public what they plan to do to make their lives incredibly worse, lol.
desperate and stupid ideas from a desperate and stupid man
Lol. This guy
OP this article wasn't even relevant 2 months ago. This loser isn't even getting nominated.
Clearly going for the no-arithmetic vote.
So... the GOP base, then.
So would there be no federal taxes?
The aim is to starve out communities that rely on it, and sic the military on dissenters
Does not the military rely on it
Military is military, they get their own funding, and the aim is to have them be the functional government
Who's paying the military in this scenario?
The only taxes GOPS want to pay are the Military Tax and the Police Tax
Um, so his army is going to follow the "reddit mod" model and work for free?
Isnt this mostly going to be starving conservative comunities?
Yeah some deep red states would be absolutely fucked
Red states? Absolutely
Conservative communities? The only ones they consider are board meetings
As there were none before Jekyll Island it would be entirely possible to not have it again. But it's too late and your country will go bankrupt most likely by the end of this decade.
That was the formation of the Federal Reserve system. IRS was formed at the time of the Civil War.
Yes, but they started taxing our income after 1913.
He would be so assassinated, so quickly. The IRS does not fuck around. Neither does the Department of Education.
The irony of the background saying Restore Sanity
Do his idiot supporters really not realize that he can't just do that? I know they desperately want a totalitarian dictator, but come on...
Well, it’s a start. No money for federal judiciary, federal House, federal Senate, and eventually federal Presidency. And federal law enforcement, and federal military.
News from the Florida Man
Removing the IRS so the poor could stop paying taxes (just like the ultra rich) would be great. Also, fuck DeSantis.
Yeah and with no taxes the government would have no money and default within a month and the country would crumble within a year and be conquered by Russia of all places within two.
There are reasons we pay taxes. Taxes are not bad. Tax rules where the rich don't pay ARE bad
I agree that taxes are not bad, however getting the rich to actually pay taxes seems impossible for our government.
It's so weird seeing the IRS as one of the more prominent victims of partisan polarization, especially with a ridiculous enough promise even we libertarian-minded folk tend to react along the lines of "whoah that's pretty crazy to jump to, the budget is a system that needs adjusted with care even if - especially if - that's your goal". It's as if he's trying to cater specifically to really dumb business owners.
I fail to see how rah rah DoE/DoC even makes sense as a campaign promise.
Sure, just remove the department that manages the nations nukes, nbd.
Just have the nuclear weapons program under the department of housing and urban development.
Yep.. More evidence, not that we needed it, that he is a complete moron
Ding-a-lings say the darndest things.
Everyone should treat this guy's ideas about how to run a government about as seriously as they would on fashion tips from ronnie - those white go-go boots were sure fashion-forward, LOL.
I become more and more convinced that DeSantis is to make Trump palatable again.
How do you know a US president is lying?
His lips are moving.
Some are able to write as well. Not all, really 😅
How will the government get money? I mean no IRS means no taxes.. right? Wut
"Okay, sooooo...with no tax revenue or money, zero education, and no energy.......that's still a country somehow right? How does this work????"
Doesn't DoE like do nuclear shit?
They also inform the nation's energy policies, meaning taking responsibility for federally funded energy transportation and coordination.
Those Texas price gouging electrical bills, they become nationwide under desantis.
Yeah, if we could just go ahead and not let Texas and Florida export their freedumb that’d be great.
That and more. They have a mandate for nuclear nonproliferation, but it’s more accurate to think of them as America’s R&D lab. The National Labs are fucking incredible! They are so much more than the DoD’s innovation lab. They do a ton of research that isn’t possible for the private sector. They also own and make available equipment that is difficult for individuals to maintain for example: Fermilabs has a particular accelerator, Sandia has the Z machine and a MEMS foundry, and Oak Ridge has one of the most powerful supercomputers and several labs focusing on neutron and nuclear power. Fuck just look up the patents and Nobel Prizes for Lawrence Livermore, Argonne, and Los Alamos. Yes there is a ton of nuclear but they cover so much more. They’re amazing and a national treasure!
The DoE issues security clearances just like the DoD.
Yup. They oversee the nuclear weapon stockpile, as well as all the fissile materials- including weapons grade stuff- in the US.
Yes.
Feudalism. We already live in a system of neo digital feudalism where you own nothing. DeSatan master of the Dick Handle state is aiming to bridge our digital and analog feudal future faster than it is happening without him.
Feudalist societies still have taxes. Traditionally it was laborors offering part of they harvest to the owners of the land on which they worked, which actually now that I say that just sounds like corporate america is a feudalist society. Gross.
But anyway, without money there would basically be no federal government as there's no way to pay any of them (except for the corrupt ones, so all the law makers are still there). With literally 0 money, we'd be in a perpetual government shutdown, and basically the 50 states would start acting as independent nations under their own ruleset. Sure, they could still adhere to federal will, but with what justification? If someone commits a federal crime that's not explicitly criminalized state-level, who's getting paid to prosecute? What incentive is the US giving to states to remain on the same page with national law? They can't even take any incentives away as punishment because they wouldn't have been able to pay for any existing incentives to begin with.
Maybe he thinks that it’ll just work like an honesty box. That would level things out actually because it does act like an honesty box for the super rich already.
You went wrong right off the bat there in your comment with "he thinks". Obviously incorrect.
We all buy guns and ammo and go mad max. DOJ exists but if there are enough crimes, it won't be paid enough to handle them all. Also, people would just kill cops with ACAB mentality. They'll run out eventually.
Guaranteed he has no idea what the department of energy does.
DeSantis is a Harvard law school grad and Navy lawyer, he absolutely has an idea what all of those governmental entities do, this is just him and the GOP trying to normalize the fascistic accumulation of power, step one of becoming a dictatorship.
Also this is the GOP's plan to do exactly that:
Project 2025
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/conservatives-aim-to-restructure-u-s-government-and-replace-it-with-trumps-vision
It's just a step by step to purge the government, then whatever else, of undesirables while making an effort to destroy our government one piece at a time. Fascistic Libertarian hellscape here we come! (Also this is nothing new from them, just more open fascism)
You can have an advanced degree and still be ignorant about totally relevant facts. It's actually easier if you're ignorant about those facts, because you're more likely to believe the things you say that don't make sense.
I think you've accurately listed a lot of correct information, especially about the well-known plan that the GOP has been pushing for decades, but we shouldn't assume that the guy has knowledge about slightly obscure topics. I mean really, how many Americans actually looked into what the Department of Energy does?
Former Texas Governor Rick Perry didn't know what it was during a Primary debate.
No idea what DoC does either, clearly. This is the problem with these people- no idea WTF they're talking about and nobody holds them to account for that.
Most people don’t and it makes me sad. Our National Labs are fucking treasures but so few people know how much of an impact they have on our technology and lives.
Yeah.. same exact thought when I read the article.
Yeah, so what does he want to do with nuclear material along with all of the research around the country? I don't think people know that Energy is responsible for our nuclear stockpile. Not Defense.
Naw he'll just make the military responsible for all the nuclear stuff. It's the standard GOP response.
Reaganomics was a horrendous failure for this country, and nearly 50 years later here we are with Republicans pushing those policies again on the American people.
What DeSatan is talking about is a continuation of Reagan's terrible "Starve the Beast" policies.
Starve the Beast is a plan by conservatives to reduce funding for various government departments and programs to a level below which those entities can function properly. Salaries and equipment cost money. Below a certain level, you can't do your job properly. And that's what Republicans have been pushing for a few decades now. Cut funding for programs, and then claim those same programs aren't doing their job properly, and use that as the excuse to kill off those programs altogether.
It is a self fulfilling prophecy all so big business and the ultra rich can pollute more, hide their real wealth from taxes, and make our children dumb enough that future generations willingly vote Republican.
as president i promise to dismantle the whole government
It's more that he wants to destroy the regulatory systems that prevent companies from doing anything they want. This is a big step for fascism. Hitler and Mussolini both deregulated the markets and privatized everything they could. Fascism is simply Capitalism run rampant. After that they usually invade another country and create a slave labor force, which is why he wants to "go to war with the cartels."
As president I promise there to be no president.
Finally, a president true to their word
So no federal taxes; education; or commerce regulation?
Because that's going to end well.
About as well as every other decision DeSantis has made, yes.
This is the problem with a party whose entire political platform is to prove that government doesn't work. It wants dysfunction.
So basically the plan is to restore the late 1800s and be ruled by corporate barons
I've seen over 200 PragerU videos and they literally believe that it was a better time back then, and would actively invite a lower quality of average life if it meant they could execute the gays/asians/blacks
Of course they do.
Suppressed minorities and women? White men ruling EVERYTHING?
It's like their wet dream.
They miss it
Rule as* corporate barons
"Folks, I'm just gonna show up at your door, burn your house down, and claim the land. There are too many regulations, and quite honestly, you don't deserve them." -The next guy to up the ante.
Thunderous applause from the gomers
"I like him because he says what he means, unlike other politicians" -too damn much of the voting population
So he'd make the USA into a non-functional country? Sounds about right.
It's right on-brand for the Republican platform.
I mean that's been their goal for decades. You see it plainly in their attempts on the Post Office and Social Security. They want to privatize everything. Strip the government for parts and sell it all to private corporations. No Department of Energy? Guess we'll have to just let the power companies manage our grid with no oversight. No Department of Education? Guess your only options for education are for profit private schools if you can afford to attend them. No IRS to collect those pesky and complicated income taxes? Guess we'll have to switch to collecting everything via sales tax. Oh what's that? Not enough money? Good thing we have this Social Security trust fund that's just been sitting here
not being used for Wall St speculationcollecting dust.Good luck with infrastructure when you stop collecting taxes. What a clown.
100% this filthy meatball is ogling social security
Taking care of the elderly, even inadeqiately, is "woke"
If I can't get my social security I'll substitute robbing banks to support my retirement.
You can't get enough out of banks these days to justify the risk. What you want to do is rob jewelery stores.
I love how even his childish simplistic plan was over thought. Why get rid of all of them when the IRS will single handedly kill the country if eliminated. That military budget that gets R's so hard goes bye bye.
IRS. From the party of law and order.
And with the others, if there was any doubt it should now be crystal clear this is the party of burn it all down.
And, fiscal responsibility!
Or as Dick Cheney once said: "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."
It hasn’t been the party of law and order for decades at this point.
Nixon showed the cracks, Reagan opened the floodgates, and the Twice-Impeached One showed how far they can push people.
And unlike Rick Perry, he remembered all of them...
https://youtu.be/MyMosJdIfdo
Remember when forgetting an item on a list would get you kicked out of the running for president?
Or just making a weird excited sound at a rally.
Or a weird excited sound while driving an M1 Abrams tank?
So his job is to look so bad that trump seems reasonable?
But if it gets support, also yay?
Russia/China are clearly playing the games the UK and the USA have around the world back on them.
Democracy is a nuisance for the fascist RW
And that's partially why he's so far behind Trump: because he's exceptionally stupid and can't read the room.
Shhhh. Hes brilliant and should keep telling the general public what they plan to do to make their lives incredibly worse, lol.
desperate and stupid ideas from a desperate and stupid man
Lol. This guy
OP this article wasn't even relevant 2 months ago. This loser isn't even getting nominated.
Clearly going for the no-arithmetic vote.
So... the GOP base, then.
So would there be no federal taxes?
The aim is to starve out communities that rely on it, and sic the military on dissenters
Does not the military rely on it
Military is military, they get their own funding, and the aim is to have them be the functional government
Who's paying the military in this scenario?
The only taxes GOPS want to pay are the Military Tax and the Police Tax
Um, so his army is going to follow the "reddit mod" model and work for free?
Isnt this mostly going to be starving conservative comunities?
Yeah some deep red states would be absolutely fucked
Red states? Absolutely Conservative communities? The only ones they consider are board meetings
As there were none before Jekyll Island it would be entirely possible to not have it again. But it's too late and your country will go bankrupt most likely by the end of this decade.
That was the formation of the Federal Reserve system. IRS was formed at the time of the Civil War.
Yes, but they started taxing our income after 1913.
He would be so assassinated, so quickly. The IRS does not fuck around. Neither does the Department of Education.
The irony of the background saying Restore Sanity
Do his idiot supporters really not realize that he can't just do that? I know they desperately want a totalitarian dictator, but come on...
Well, it’s a start. No money for federal judiciary, federal House, federal Senate, and eventually federal Presidency. And federal law enforcement, and federal military. News from the Florida Man
Removing the IRS so the poor could stop paying taxes (just like the ultra rich) would be great. Also, fuck DeSantis.
Yeah and with no taxes the government would have no money and default within a month and the country would crumble within a year and be conquered by Russia of all places within two.
There are reasons we pay taxes. Taxes are not bad. Tax rules where the rich don't pay ARE bad
I agree that taxes are not bad, however getting the rich to actually pay taxes seems impossible for our government.
It's so weird seeing the IRS as one of the more prominent victims of partisan polarization, especially with a ridiculous enough promise even we libertarian-minded folk tend to react along the lines of "whoah that's pretty crazy to jump to, the budget is a system that needs adjusted with care even if - especially if - that's your goal". It's as if he's trying to cater specifically to really dumb business owners.
I fail to see how rah rah DoE/DoC even makes sense as a campaign promise.
Sure, just remove the department that manages the nations nukes, nbd.
Just have the nuclear weapons program under the department of housing and urban development.
Yep.. More evidence, not that we needed it, that he is a complete moron
Ding-a-lings say the darndest things.
Everyone should treat this guy's ideas about how to run a government about as seriously as they would on fashion tips from ronnie - those white go-go boots were sure fashion-forward, LOL.
I become more and more convinced that DeSantis is to make Trump palatable again.
How do you know a US president is lying?
His lips are moving.
Some are able to write as well. Not all, really 😅
How will the government get money? I mean no IRS means no taxes.. right? Wut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_-04\_frVkcY