Harris says US will ‘under no circumstances’ permit forced relocation of Palestinians

Exactly what I just said. The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt, and after 2011 they won and briefly held 42% of parliament seats and the presidency, but luckily they were forced out of government soon after.

Hamas' biggest villain's are from Egypt, the Egyptian people are more responsible for Hamas' actions than Palestine, so I think it's honestly very sad for Palestine to be trapped in a situation where there are enemies on all sides adding fuel to the fire.

Your talking about countries that with unstable economy, can be easily have riots or someone can easily fund and ISIS like group to have a civil war?

Most of the Arab countries have taken people during war with expectations they can go back, but then they couldn't because Isreal refuse to snd stole land.

Blaming Arab countries at this time without any historical or recent understanding is an attempt to shift the blame and conversation to something not important.

People are dying, kids are dying, US government send weapons to Isreal, and then bluntly lying to people. Lets keep the conversation focus...

Dude those same civilian facilities are proven to store artillery. Once a site is being used for war purposes, don't be surprised that it's being destroyed - in a war.

Everybody is criticizing Israel for bombing UN facilities, while no one critisizes Hamas for storing ammunition in said facilities. That's just hypocrisy.

"murder does not justify more murder"

The murder which is happening is by a war. If you don't know that, you're living under a rock. And what I said, is that this war is justified. So yes, this is exactly what you said, you just deny it. War = murder. "Murder isn't justified" -> "war isn't justified". Very simple logic.

Source?

Early zionism is literally just buying land from arabs in Palestine and growing jewish population in said areas. Idk where you got that info from, of alegged stealing of houses, but that just isn't true. Maybe you speak of the 48 war? Which is much later, and is after a full blown war, which everyone acknowledges that there were refugees from said war, and that jews inhabited abandoned arab houses after they left the country. It's like Syrian immigrants going back to Syria after years of being immigrants and demanding the current people who live where their house used to be (or whatever stands in that place) to give that house back to them. That just isn't how war or the world works.

What a lazy way to dismiss any kind of stakes to discussing history and the consequences of it.

You're welcome. ;)

Here is a great copypasta on all this:

DNA studies have determined that ALL biological Jews of the various subdivisions--Ashkenazim, Mizrahim and Sephardim--are related to one another. ALL biological Jews have also been determined to have genetic roots in the Southern Levant and are related to the Canaanites.

Archaeology has repeatedly confirmed that the Jewish peoples originated in the Southern Levant thousands of years prior to Arabs leaving the Arabian Peninsula. Archaeology has also repeatedly confirmed that the presence of Arabs and the Arabic language in the Middle East and North Africa everywhere outside of the Arabian Peninsula, including the Southern Levant where Israel is situated, is the result of past imperialist colonialist expansions and forced assimilations.

Historic records repeatedly emphasize not only the Indigenous presence of Jews in the Southern Levant, but the fact that there remained a number of them in the Southern Levant to meet every outside group which came into the region, including Arabs. Even Arabic and Ottoman Empire historical records confirm that Jews were in the Southern Levant before them.

Case in point, the historic and linguistic origins of the name, "Jew." European languages call Jews "Jude," "Jew," etc, because they are shortened derivations from "Judean." A "Judean" is a native of "Judea" which was one the historic Jewish nations in the Southern Levant which predates Arabs arriving in the Southern Levant. Even the terms that Arabic speakers use for Jews, "Yahud" and "Yahudi," testify that Jews are the Indigenous population of the Southern Levant. As there is no "J" sound in Hebrew, the actual name of "Judea" was "Yahuda." A "Yahud" or "Yahudi" is a native of the historical Southern Levantine nation of "Yahuda." Descendants of Egyptian Mizrahim Jews, frequently get called "Yahud" by Arabs in the US despite not publicly wearing any outward signs because they recognize the phenotype.

Rome--an imperialist colonialist power not indigenous to the Southern Levant--erasing the linkages between Jews--ie Judeans--and their homeland--Judea--by renaming it Syria Palaestina after the Bar Kochba Revolt to punish the Jews--ie Judeans. Then, the British Empire--an imperialist colonialist power not indigenous to the Southern Levant--renamed the region, Palestine.

Also reference the historical documentation of the Ottoman Empire--a Middle Eastern Imperialist colonialist power--which records that they shipped European converts to Islam from the Balkans, Russia and Ukraine to the Southern Levant as colonialists where they ended up assimilated into Arabic language and culture. It ignores the historical records, genealogies, genetic tests and even surnames which indicates that Palestinian Arabs' families came from various parts of the Middle East and North Africa. This can be seen with such surnames as "al Masri" and "al Misr" which indicates that their families were from Egypt. It can be seen in surnames such as "al Tikrit" and "al Mosul" which indicate that those families came from the cities of Tikrit and Mosul in Iraq. It also can be seen in the surname "al Hind" which indicates that those families came from the India-Pakistan-Bangladesh region. It can be seen in clan names which have been documented to have originated on the Arabian Peninsula in what is now Saudi Arabia, such as "Erakat" and "Harbi." And this email ignores the historical records which documents that a minority of the founding population of today's Palestinian Arabs were Indigenous Jews, Indigenous Christians, Indigenous Druze and the descendants of Roman and European Crusader colonists whom were forcibly converted to Islam and forcibly assimilated into Arabic language and culture by past imperialist colonialism.

Indigenous Jews were illegally ethnic cleansed from what is now Palestinian Authority controlled territory and eastern Jerusalem during Jordan's illegal invasion and illegal occupation despite the Indigenous Jews being there for centuries before Arabs left the Arabian Peninsula. It ignores the fact that Jordan illegally replaced the Indigenous Jews there with its Arab citizens whom its rulers decided to exile. It ignores the fact that Egypt during it's illegal invasion and illegal occupation of Gaza treated Gaza like an open air prison by exiling its prisoners there.

Hamas and the Palestinian Authority violate human rights, the women's rights, the LGBTQ rights and the religous rights of their citizens. They do not allow elections. Villages like that of US Representative Rashida Harbi Tlaib's grandmother aren't allowed to choose their own village leaders, the Palestinian Authority chooses them. And what they call "Israeli occupation" isn't occupying their territories. It is controlling border regions to keep weapons away from them and terrorists out of Israeli territory. Otherwise, Israel lets Hamas and the Palestinian Authority control their own territories.

Historical documentation records that Jews from all of the major divisions of the Jewish peoples--Ashkenazim, Sephardim and Mizrahim--had ties with the Jews whom never left the Southern Levant. Ties which included intermarriage and moving there to join their Southern Levantine relatives centuries before modern Israel was refounded. It ignores the historic documentation which records that the British Empire--which is not indigenous to the Southern Levant--in addition to allowing Arabs to illegally immigrate to the "Territory of Palestine" where they weren't indigenous also actively tried to prevent Jews from joining their Indigenous relatives in the Territory despite the international mandate which recognized the Territory as the Jewish homeland and required the British to facilitate Jewish resettlement there as the returning Indigenous population, not Arabs. Thus, it is the Palestinian Arabs whom are in the Southern Levant as the result of imperialist colonialism, not Jews. Jews are there as the result of the Zionist Indigenous rights movement despite imperialist colonialism.

Human rights are afforded to its citizens by Israel. Israel protects religious rights, women's rights and LGBTQ rights. By way of contrast, this email ignores the fact that all of the Arab powers surrounding Israel, including the Palestinian Authority and Hamas in Gaza, persecutes LGBTQ and non-Muslims which has resulted in refugees seeking asylum in Israel. It ignores the violations of women's rights in the Arab powers surrounding Israel. And it ignores the Apartheid ethnic cleansing of JIMENA (Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa), such as my Egyptian Jewish ancestors, from Arab nations and from the parts of Gaza and from the parts of Palestinian Authority controlled territories which Indigenous Jews once lived in for centuries before Arabs left the Arabian Peninsula.

Over half of Israel's Jewish population consists of JIMENA whose families were forcibly, and in some cases genocidally, expelled from Muslim countries. It ignores the Apartheid restrictions which non-Muslims have to live under in Arab nations.

You can't ignore the genocide that Assad's Syria committed against a Palestinian Arab refugee camp. It ignores the Apartheid restrictions which Arab nations place on Palestinian Arab refugees in their countries which deny them paths to citizenship, the rights to movement within the countries, the rights to certain educational training and the rights to work in certain careers. It also ignores the fact that Israel allows Arab--Christian and Muslim--citizens to live where they choose, worship as they choose as long as they respect the rights of others, be educated as they choose, work in the careers of their choice, serve in the military and serve in the government.

There is a history of the Arab world's wars with Israel. It was the Arab nations whom forced Palestinian Arabs to leave the region and become refugees after the Arab powers attacked Israel. Israel assimilated the JIMENA whom were expelled from Muslim countries--whom incidentally outnumbered the Palestinian Arabs whom became refugees. The Arab nations whom forced Palestinian Arabs to flee and become refugees have refused to assimilate those refugees and actively persecutes them.

The long history of Palestinian Arabs committing acts of violence against Jews which predates the re-founding of modern Israel and continues until today. Hajj Amin al Husseini, a former Jerusalem Mufti, incited violent attacks on Jews during the 1920s and 1930s. And during WW2, he joined the Nazis, talked the Nazis into killing European Jews instead of deporting them to what is now Israel, became the Nazi's Arab world propagandist and led an all Bosnian SS Einsatzgruppen unit which rounded up and mass shot Eastern European Jews. And this instructor's email ignores the genocidal statement of intent against Jews worldwide in Hamas's founding charter.

Your words could be perceived to be incitement against Israel and Jews by mischaracterizing the Zionist Indigenous rights movement of Jews as colonialism and imperialism when all of the evidence supports the Jews as being the Indigenous population of the region, not the Palestinian Arabs. By mischaracterizing the Palestinian Arabs as the indigenous population of the region when all of the evidence supports that they are there as the result of past imperialist colonialism, this instructor's email creates the false impression that Jews are the colonialist aggressors in the region as the result of imperialism against whom an indigenous population is resisting. When in reality, it is the Jews whom are the Indigenous population whom is resisting the aggression of colonialist Palestinian Arabs in the region as the result of multiple instances of imperialist colonialism.

I still don't see the point here, "mind the border" means that they're the ones who wanna change the existing borders and take over Israel. You mean the people themselves want to take over Israel? If so I agree, I'm pretty sure that's what Gazans want as well. But again that just doesn't sound like propaganda to me, and sounds like the truth.

And come on, of course Israel wants to expel all Gazans. They're the literal worst neighbours to a country ever. But just like Hamas expressed their desire to kill all jews (desire and intent...) in Israel and take over, making an islamic jihadist state, they and Israel both can't do that. They both hate each other, the difference is which one actually follows through the atrocities. Meanwhile, Hamas is winning in the "getting what they want" battle, given that Israel isn't going to kick Gazans out for good.

Blaming Israel for wanting to expel them is ignoring the fact that Hamas wants to murder Israel. It's the biggest double standard.