After Abortion Ban, Texas Teen Birth Rate Rises

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After Abortion Ban, Texas Teen Birth Rate Rises
texasobserver.org

A 15-year decline in Texas teen birth rates slid to a stop—and converted into a modest increase in 2022, the year after the state Legislature implemented what was the nation’s strongest ban on abortion, according to new report from the University of Houston’s Institute for Research on Women, Gender & Sexuality.

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Welcome to the point, everyone. Just think of all the low-income suppressed-education workers this will generate.

slavery never died. it just put on a new suit.

we fought a war to end it the first time. i fail to see why we should be so polite now.

It didn’t even put on a new suit. It’s still legal as long as it’s a punishment.

64,000 and counting as of last month

1 more...

Holy shit no way

While it is obvious that it would happen, the demographics skew things a bit, since by far the increase was among Hispanic women, while white and black women still showed a decline. I say skewed because Texas has the 2nd or third highest per capita population of Hispanics, so to get a more accurate data point, you would want to know how the teen birth rate of hispanic women from other states was instead of the total of any race.

While it's a certainty that Texas laws have caused more unwanted teen births, it would be nice to have more accurate data points.

Do you think the abortion law might not have anything to do with the change in birth rate among Hispanic teens? I guess I’m not sure why breaking this out into racial demographics is adding anything to our understanding of the trend.

Examining why hispanic girls seem to be disproportionately affected by the law could be an interesting followon study.

I specified in my comment that I was sure it had something to do with it, but that doesn't change that it would still be on a downward trend if not for Hispanics, and since there's only a few states that the hispanic population is large enough to significantly change the data.

As intended, the point is to get white people to breed... I'm sadly not joking

While they would be delighted if that were to happen, in this case, it is poor people they want to breed no matter what color they are. They want all those impoverished babies born so they can:

  • Under-educate them

  • Force them into crappy jobs that will keep them poor while enriching their overlords

  • Convince them that the progressives who want to help them and improve their lives are really their enemies

  • Deceive them into voting for the very tyrants who are oppressing them

They don't really care what color skin the meat they feed into their machine is wearing.

Nah, they want them to all be black, but white is acceptable.

More blacks mean more people they can throw in jails to use as slave labor for their corporate overlords.

They want all the black people they can get.

I'm a native Texan and I've got to disabuse you of this notion. There's definitely an effort to monetize the state's bigoted legislature. But the end goal of these policies isn't a large black prison force any more than the work camps in Dachau were about having a large Gypsy/Jewish/Communist labor force.

The goal is to work these prisoners to death until there's nobody left to arrest.

We continue to have a rich legacy of forced sterilization nationally, particularly in state prisons.

But the prisons are for profit. There must be a steady stream of prisoners (that will be used as slave labor) or the prisons go out of business, and the prisons will do everything in their power to make sure that doesn't happen.

But the prisons are for profit.

Everything is for profit. The state is kickbacks stacked on top of kickbacks. They spend $3.5 billion/yr on ramshackle buildings with no AC and prohibition systems that barely function. They can't keep anyone on staff because even the guards are treated like chattel.

There must be a steady stream of prisoners (that will be used as slave labor) or the prisons go out of business

Prison populations have been falling since COVID but spending (and profits) have only increased.

If every prisoner in Texas vanished tomorrow, I guarantee the private contractors and facilities would still post record profits by year end.

Don't forget that under supported poverty stricken children often grow up to become under supported poverty stricken veterans and the enlistment rate has never been lower (unless something big has changed). Now who wants to go die for some freedom halfway across the globe!? AMERICA FUCK YEA!

If so, they are once again working against their own goals. I just googled and found this: https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/state-indicator/abortions-by-race/

Now that doesn't work too well on my phone, but all the states that aren't whitebread states, the abortion rate is higher among black people, which means an abortion ban is going to have black folks having less abortions than white folks. And that's before you factor in that white folks are more likely to be able to travel to obtain abortions.

I don't know whether you're right or not. It wouldn't surprise me, but I do feel like anyone smart enough to stack these dominos is smart enough to see where they'll fall, but this would be far from the first time the right has shocked me with their intellectual failures.

Are you saying that abortion has kept the black populating artificially low? And that black Americans could have represented a much larger portion of the electorate?

I posted the website so you can draw your own conclusions, but I don't believe abortion rates are high enough to draw that conclusion. I'm not even sure what the ratio is nationality. Many big states don't report by race. In any event the numbers are probably not big enough to suggest they would be a "much larger portion."

And because conservatives think they'll become obedient housewives instead of feminists.

If thats the intention its skyrocketing the latino birth rates

Give it a generation and Hispanics will be considered white. It'll happen just as it happened to the Irish and Italians and Eastern Europeans.

Oh man, what a backfire.

I’d bet that in aggregate, white women are far more advantaged for traveling and affording an out-of-state abortion than Latina women.

End result is more Latinx babies and less white babies. Conservatives brought about the majority-minority they tried to prevent, thanks to their own hubris.

No doubt they’ll use that to their advantage though. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

No no no, it's all religion, ooh say can't you see?

Sounds like you're joking, but your correct as well. After all, indoctrination is how religion grows. Why do you think religions are anti-abortion and anti-contraception? There may have been a time when religion was useful, but has long since passed. We need to stop giving religion a voice.

Yet people who think like this are the same who try to turn Atheism into a religion, Scientism over Science.... It's poison

In another decade or so there will be articles about how Texas lacks educated workers and companies can't entice enough educated people to fill jobs. And every politician will scratch their hate filled little heads trying to figure out why. Many will come to some horribly moronic conclusion that there isn't enough Jesus or to much social media but none will look back at this and get a clue.

you just have to get far enough away to not get burned while you watch the crash.

Nah. It's still pretty de facto segregated here. There are plenty of insulated suburban school districts that pump out business majors studying in no longer diverse University of Texas. Those kids also have the resources to go "visit a relative" out of state should the need to remedy a small inconvenience arise.

For the really hard stuff like engineers, we've got those sweet sweet H1-B visas.

I know my opintion may be very controversial. But I think abortions are decisions where life quality of the mother is weighted against the life of the possible child. Hence I am contra abortions exempt from this would be medically necessary abortions where not mothers life quality but life itself is concerned. ( as in my philosophy life should outweigh life quality ) But when you forbid abortions and you force births. Now you have alot of mothers and children with shitty life quality, that you have enforced. There should be soemthing to give life quality back. And that should be the norm. You force people to take a hit on life quality, give em something in return.

The problem is who decides? I am anti abortion so I didn't have any. That's it. I'm not telling anyone else what to do. You are saying some bureaucrat somewhere gets to make that call, instead of the pregnant person. Why? Her beliefs don't matter to you, they don't count? She has to follow your beliefs?

Now imagne we would use this logic on taxation.

Just because you don't have something, doesn't mean the goverment shouldn't be able to regulate it. And if a goverment in a democracy is the direct result of people's votes. Why shoudnt people be able to vote on it.

Taxation is not something growing in my body, it's money I contribute to the society I live in, a social cost in money.

This is much closer to the government deciding that you must donate a kidney to someone, because you had sex. Or mandating abortion, if the majority voted that everyone with two children must abort if they fall pregnant again? I don't agree that my own body is something others can vote to control, that's not at all like tax.

Resources for Texans seeking access to healthcare:

https://aidaccess.org/en/

https://teafund.org/

https://wrrap.org/about-wrrap/

https://abortionfunds.org/

If you need help getting an abortion, go to these sites:

https://www.plancpills.org/

https://aidaccess.org/

These sites offer access to abortion pills, even in Texas. Please be safe and be aware of clinics (e.g. Crisis Pregnancy Centers) that give out dangerous misinformation on abortions and pregnancy.

If you want to give money to some pro-choice charities, try here:

https://fundtexaschoice.org/ - The Dallas-based nonprofit Fund Texas Choice assists Texas residents with lodging and transportation expenses to abortion clinics in and out of state. It also provides information on organizations that can help with funding the procedure.

https://www.laslibres.org/ - Las Libres is a Mexican feminist organization that supports women seeking abortions and control of their own bodies; this now includes those who contact them from the United States.

https://teafund.org - Texas Equal Access Fund provides funding to low-income people in the north, east, and Panhandle regions of Texas who can’t afford an abortion. It also offers emotional support through a confidential text line, support group, and virtual clinic companion program.

https://janesdueprocess.org - Jane’s Due Process helps young Texans navigate parental-consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. It offers Texas teens and young people free legal support, one-on-one case management, and a text line for those needing information on birth control and family-planning services without parental involvement.

https://www.lilithfund.org - The Lilith Fund, an Austin-based nonprofit, provides direct financial assistance to Texans in central and southern regions of the state who need an abortion. It also offers an emotional-support hotline

https://www.theafiyacenter.org - The Afiya Center, or TAC for short, is a reproductive-justice organization in North Texas that provides refuge, education, and other resources to Black women. The center has its own “economic enrichment campaign” focused on funding projects for women of color living with HIV/AIDS (and those at risk). It also supports programs that are providing abortion access in the state.

https://thebridgecollective.org - The Bridge Collective serves central Texans by offering transportation to abortion clinics for people within 100 miles of Austin. It also provides free reproductive-health resource kits to those who are within 30 miles of Austin. The kits include Plan B, pregnancy tests, condoms, and information on sexual and reproductive health.

https://avowtexas.org - Avow (which was previously NARAL Pro-Choice Texas) fights for abortion rights through community building, education, and political advocacy. The Avow Foundation funds research, public education, organizing, and more to educate Texans on the importance of abortion access.

Also: 20 Organizations Fighting the Texas Abortion Ban

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Texans don't need migrants! They are fucking a whole new working class! Their cousins son who is also your brother and father will be a common relationship term...cousbrodad!

Who's that? Oh that's my Cousbrodad! I don't know my mom, the country of Texas grew me in a concentration camp.... I sweep Main from Eleventh to Mr.Luther King parkway. That's my job!

Y'all focusing on them hoping to pump out "poor, uneducated wage slaves" or whatever, but there's a much bigger reason why conservatives want those children to be born.

With foster care conditions being so absolutely abhorrent in its current state, it's very easy for a child to get "lost in the system". Add in the trauma of being a child in that situation, and it is a recipe for disaster. These adults.. want those vulnerable kids.

The party who insist they are doing what they do to """protect the children""".

There's a business in that. And there are folks who want those unwanted children.

That is because REPUBLICANS FUCK KIDS AND THEY FUCK THEM A LOT

And they do it because they think it makes them immortal. They fear death. That dark abyss. Their deeds laid bare, their sins punished.

Today's neglected and unwanted children are tomorrow's prisoners? 🤔

Prisoners, soldiers... The options are endless!

I've heard they yearn for the mines.

well the boys do. Once the brothels are full of young unwanted girls they'll wage a war on prostitution or witches again too. Isnt history fun.

No.

They're future sexual abuse victims.

"Losing" children at the border after separating them from their parents is a very clear indicator of this, as well.

Sorry, I'm pro-choice and left leaning but I think this is a little far fetched.

Sure ok there are folks who want unwanted children but they're an infinitesimal minority. I don't think highly of GOP voters but they're not quite that diabolical.

I'm not talking about the voters. I'm talking about the politicians and people behind the scenes at the top who help to make these policies.

Pretty sure republicans got in trouble in poland recently for trying to adopt large groups of white kids.

Republicans represent rich rural fiefdoms and immigrant labor is a major part of that that can't be overlooked.

Why do you think they've rolled back child labor laws recently? This is their last ditch political response to immigrant labor.

unfortunately the ensuing chaos that happens about 10-20 years down the line after these boom events is what eventually sobers them up as the bodies pile up and the children are killed by industries, the state, crime or chaos.

Sorry mate, this honestly sounds like a bit of a crazy rant. Can you link me something about the push kids?

which part?

Sorry, I meant the polish kids

Apparently its a little crazier than I remember, Matt Shea was a washington state politician, the orphans are ukranian:

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/ukrainian-orphans-with-matt-shea-in-poland-get-a-polish-legal-guardian/

Sure ok. Clearly that's the work of a lone nutter rather than "republicans".

Sure but I don't think he's an atypical "lone nutter" in eastern washington. He believes a lot of things regular republicans believe and is just acting on them more than most.

foster care conditions being so absolutely abhorrent in its current state

Does this apply to infants?

Isn't that exactly what they wanted? This is a success story for them and a reason to press on.

Yup. More broke mothers, leading to more broke children to throw into the military/prison systems, for the mega rich to exploit via wars and legalized slavery. Capitalism is a blood-god, and it always requires more blood.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Khorne: "Hol' up. Don't put that slavery shit on me. I just want blood, slaughter, and great honor on a battlefield turned into a sea of viscera from the fallen, not suffering."

Kids having kids is EXACTLY what Jesus would have wanted!

He probably wouldn't have a problem. Mary was 12-14 years old according to some sources and 15-16 in others when she was pregnant.

Mary was 12-14 years old according to some sources

There is absolutely zero actual archeological evidence of Mary existing, much less records that might match her age at the time of her son's birth.

She could have been 14 or 40 (or an entirely fictitious amalgamation of folk legends).

These "estimates" inevitable come from cranks whose guesstimates are plus or minus a decade and freaks who want to justify their desire to knock up teenagers.

I find it hard to believe there's no evidence, I mean, the Romans ruled half the world and were meticulous and methodical in their record keeping. I find it difficult to imagine they have no historical records of Iesus Nazaretum.

the Romans ruled half the world and were meticulous and methodical in their record keeping

Which is why a high profile trial of a famous Rabbi initiated by another famous Rabbi that involved the governor pardoning a known mass murderer to appease a mob just... not making the histories... would be bizarre.

Of course, this is also two millennia in hindsight and on the eve of a nasty uprising of Jewish dissidents at Masada.

It isn't unreasonable to believe the histories of this period were deliberately purged or suppressed, and only survived as oral tradition, for the next two centuries.

And let me guess - they also declined the federal Medicaid expansion and probably don’t have great social services to start with, right?

Hey Texas, I know that you're _anti-abortion_ pro-life and all but if you don't want your state's teens getting pregnant you should provide adequate birth control measures...for free! Or would that displease Sky Daddy?

The fact that they didn't do that is undeniable proof that it was always about controlling women.

But it's okay because they're creating more little wage slaves just like supply side Jesus intended.

More legal slaves for the moneyed and political class!

well hopefully we start see some dna tests resulting in criminal charges.

https://www.prb.org/resources/new-study-claims-abortion-is-behind-decrease-in-crime/

Excat opposite of this,

(January 2000) Abortion is a divisive and emotional issue. Add racial overtones and the implication that public officials do not deserve all the credit for reductions in crime during the 1990s, and combustion is inevitable. Informed debate is not. Stanford Law School professor John J. Donohue III and University of Chicago economist Steven D. Levitt ignited a debate last August when they released a study on the relationship between abortion and crime. Their findings suggest that legal abortions have prevented the births of many would-be criminals. The absence of these people, according to their research, is behind at least half of the dramatic drop in crime rates seen between 1991 and 1997.

i mean, that basically could be boiled down to

"people that cant support children are more likely to chose not to have them, leading to fewer impoverished children, teens, and young adults", and when phrased that way, i think noone would be surprised.

Remember how the cons were gaslighting about how no rights are really going to be taken away? They were just Deeply Concerned (TM) about how Roe had created rights, not that women actually had those rights.

Because they had so many issues with Roe because of "judicial activism" and for no other reason.

Yeah....

Of course they'll just waive that off.

The devil is just testing them with the numbers, just like the story about some guy in the desert being tested too.

Just more thoughts and prayers and everything will be alright~

It's an 0.4% increase, well within the range of random fluctuations. My takeaway is that the abortion ban did not cause a significant increase in the teen birth rate.

If even one teenager gave birth when they didn't want to, that is too many.