Donald Trump selling Bibles sparks fury from Christians—"Blasphemous grift"
Former President Donald Trump's latest venture selling Bibles has sparked the fury of Christians.
Trump, who became the presumptive Republican nominee earlier in March, posted a video on his Truth Social platform on Tuesday urging his supporters to buy the "God Bless the USA Bible," inspired by country singer Lee Greenwood's patriotic ballad.
"Happy Holy Week! Let's Make America Pray Again. As we lead into Good Friday and Easter, I encourage you to get a copy of the God Bless the USA Bible," Trump wrote in the post, alongside a link to a website selling the book for $59.99. It came a day after Trump seemingly compared his legal plight to Jesus Christ's persecution.
And it comes as he faces mounting legal bills while fighting four criminal indictments and a series of civil charges while running to reclaim the White House. On Monday, a New York appeals court agreed to hold off on collecting the more than $454 million he owes following a civil fraud judgment if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.
But the move has sparked the ire of Christians.
In case anyone thought even Christians are welcome to criticize the idol.
lol
Totally normal.
Weird, it skips right from the 13th amendment to the 15th in this version. And I can't find the emoluments clause anywhere.
"The right to vote for Trump shall not be denied or abridged..."
Wait, is that right?
Yes, that’s right after “Thou shalt not judge thy neighbor for raw dogging porn stars behind your pregnant wife’s back”
Ah, yep, right above "Take back your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, we don't have any room."
The "King Trump Bible" it came to be known...
All things they've never read, or will ever read, after they purchase them.
So has never endorsed the Bible until he was selling one?
christians have loved what trump has done. but selling bibles is their limit? pathetic.
Some Christians, I'm sure. The Evangelicals that already loved him are currently trying to figure out how to shove a Trump Bible in their anus while describing it as "God's plan".
“I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holey and acceptable to God, place his word into thy rectum, which is your spiritual worship.”
-Romans 12:1 maybe
Christians isn't a monolithic entity, the way the headline pretends. There's liberal Christians and conservative Christians. Hell, there's an LGBTQ church down the street from here with a trans pastor and a church trauma support group.
i.e. Not all Christians love what Trump has done and not all Christians hate that he's selling bibles.
So called "liberal Christians" just enable the fascist ones.
ACAB.
How?
Because if it was all bad it would just be abandoned. It is like smoking tobacco vs consuming botulism. Each time you smoke a tiny bit of damage is done and a lot is pleasure is delivered every time you consume botulism you get very ill and risk dying. That's why people aren't consuming 20 capsules of botulism a day.
The liberal Christianity tried to offer a different route. A Christianity that doesn't depend on bigotry. A Christianity not supported by the texts or thoughts of the faith for the past 20 centuries because they are doing that they are offering cover for the the branches aligned with Christianity. They are holding out the possibility of reform. If they don't exist people would see Christianity for what it is, and not what in theory it could be.
The problem with your analogy is either the people of the religion need to view it as botulism or the vast majority of society needs to view those people as botulism.
The people of the religion are at best going to see it as tobacco. I hate tobacco; smoking isn't pleasurable, it just makes me feel sick. But there are people who love it. You and I may see their religion as devoid of anything good, but to them it's good. They are often born into it and want their religion with the negatives you and I see. It has nothing to do with liberal Christians.
And it is not liberal Christians that make it so we don't reach the threshold of the vast majority of society not tolerating the bad Christians. The bad Christians are a sizeable enough part of society on their own to guarantee that. And as a society, we're fairly geographically sorted. So even if they were only 5% of the population, they'd still often be surrounded by like-minded individuals and be able to wield political power. Plus, they're still people. Even the most evil people generally have some redeeming qualities.
People forcing them all into one box enable the fascist ones. Anytime someone says "that's fascism and not Christianity" they're met with screeches of "nO tRuE sCoTsMaN!"
I can back up my arguments with their holy texts as well as the Greek thought most of it was stolen from. At its core it is a fascist faith. Beginning with Plato's blueprint for a spiritual dictatorship ruled by mystics who don't have to explain themselves, to Jesus declaring that his path was the only way, to the City of God telling us that torture in this life was better than hell and thus justified.
None of that explains how Christians who say "Fascism is bad" are enabling fascists.
Do you know that an enabler doesn't have to be intentionally doing it?
Do you know for someone to be an enabler there should be some evidence/argument for it other than "you're speaking against the thing I'm accusing you of enabling"?
I spelled it out. Quite clearly. Don't waste my time.
I'm just relieved there is a limit
It's not a limit. It's manufactured outrage. If they supported him prior to now, 99% of them will support him until the end.
Well over 50% of Americans identify as Christian or Catholic. Trump did not receive 50% of the popular vote. Even if every person who voted for Trump identified as Christian, there is still a large percentage of Christians that did not.
Look, i can excuse the racism, having no clue what he's doing as a president, the rape allegations, he's super into minors, probably his own daughter, stealing and selling sensible documents, the nepotism, the lies, grifting his voters, swindling taxpayer money, not paying any fees ever, not paying for venues that he rents out, using his golf course to, again, steal taxpayer money, he might be a blatant russian asset, he's also way too much into dictators, he didn't furfill ANYof his campaign promises, selling beans from the oval office.
But selling an old ass novel about my imaginary sky daddy? You crossed the line there buckaroo.
Limit? No, trigger.
Please pass the popcorn.
……but will vote for him anyway.
Because what else can they do?
Stop being religious ideally
Will somebody please think of the children!!?
Conservatives are only able to think of the fetuses. The children are doing just fine back at the meat processing plant.
no thank you i dont like thinking about children actually
Whatever, the death-cultists will still line up like "good christians" & vote for fascism.
America will never truly be free under the shadow of christofascist tyranny.
No, that’s not how this works. You carried the golden calf to term and gave birth to it. Own it you two faced hypocrites.
Christians are not a homogeneous blob of identity. As you may or may not have guessed, these are not the far-right Christians who believe Trump is the Second Coming of Christ. They are not responsible for what other people who identify as Christians have done or said, and they are entitled to change their minds about things they themselves have done or said.
They are fully entitled to speak out against the weaponisation of their religion and good luck to those who are courageous enough to do so.
It's just tribalism. Anyone who doesn't fit in gets grouped together (ie. a lot of these comments imply most religious people support Trump). Lemmy isn't immune to it.
No. I do not accept this any longer. There are not "good christians" and "bad christians". There are christians and not christians. And christians are bad. Always have been. If you identify as a christian then these are your people.
This is fash logic. Not interested.
No it isn't. The Christians are the fash, dumbass. They have killed and burned millions upon millions both with their religion, their dogma, and they're absolute rejection of logic and reason. They are the fascist. They're the ones that need to be eliminated, and that is a matter of self-defense.
Fascism is built on a structure that includes using religion and fear as the basis for its atrocities. I'm getting really sick of you people defending the fascists.
You are a hypocrite.
No, I'm right, and history proves it.
This comic was posted elsewhere, and not only is it historically accurate, but plenty of American evangelicals still believe this bullshit. I know people who lost business because they were left-handed.
And you call me the fascist. Fuck, you people never learn.
Yeah, seriously! These people! Is it even fair to call them that? I mean, if you think nuance is important and are slow to criticize a group of billions, you're basically subhuman trash!
/s, in case anyone thinks I'm also
an idiota shitty, reactionary authoritarian.Screaming "authoritarian!" does not change the fact that Abrahamic religions are evil, violent, and designed for nothing more than division and control. Your Reversi isnt working.
Keep up the good fight, yo. Nuance is the real enemy!
Using nuance to look the other way has brought us to the brink of Project 2025, a full state authoritarian government sponsored by Abrahamic religion. Pretending dangers arent real (because it's unfashionable) does not make you seem enlightened.
I assume if you ever encounter someone claiming people who support Trump aren't Christians you go on about "No True Scotsman" as well?
No. Why would I do that? I'm sure plenty of people supported Hitler's genocides who weren't Christians also.
Hey, Christians are the ones who got the Sunny D Orangutan into the oval office the first time. Anything that separates Mr. Cheeto Smegma from his base is a good thing in my book.
Cheeto smegma is something I don't ever want to read again.
Then you’d better vote, mister!
Then they'll use it to bludgeon the rest of us.
False prophet laundering false profits
Blasphemous Grift is my favorite band name since One Punch Manslaughter
This.
This is the fucking bridge that is too far? This is the straw that broke the camel's back? This is the hill you'll die on?
Fucking hell, I was raised Christians and I think that Jesus guy had some great ideas but I certainly don't identify as one now because fuck... Christians give Christ a bad name.
I'm glad more people are seeing through the grifter, but holy shit are these people dumb.
Right? It's not, say, cheating on his pregnant wife with a prostitute? I would have thought THAT would be the thing that destroys his support among Christians, but nah, they don't care.
But selling overpriced Bibles does upset them? Why? It's probably the least insane thing he has done yet.
That’s probably not an excessive price for a Bible. They are not made like regular books.
You can get bibles ranging from free to hundreds of dollars for huge family ones. They're very much made like every other book, they probably cost $3 to make.
The one in the pic above isn't even the kind that lay open easily - soft and floppy with super thin pages and gilded edges, which is what I always appreciated about a really good bible.
A good bible burns slowly and hot.
pray tell, what's different?
BIBLE SALES! Now the trade is not a complicated one. There are but two things to learn. One bein' where to find a wholesaler - the Word of God in bulk as it were. Two, how to recognize your customer. Who are you dealin' with? It's an exercise in psychology, so to speak.
Remember the part in the bible that describes what Jesus did, to the people who were trying to make money off God?
If it’s true then people were playing team sports the whole time. Sure it’s great that people might change their vote but they’re idiots anyway.
Christians are so virtuous that a very small minority is finally upset about this after the last 8 years of supporting a man and a party that is quite literally the antithesis of what the Bible says that Jesus taught. Yeah I'm sure they'll all turn over a new leaf now lol. Religion is a mental disorder and it's time to start treating it like what it is.
You do realize a lot of Christians/Catholics don't support Trump, right? Lots of Democratic leaders are Catholic, like Biden and Pelosi.
So only normal greed based capitalists? Wow, good for them! Jesus said to share ALL of your money with the poor and specifically said to pay taxes according to the Bible. Supposedly the Bible is the literal word of God. If you're a "Christian" and you're not at least a socialist if not a full blown Communist then you're a fraud.
OK... I was just explaining why some Christians don't like Trump selling bibles. I'm not sure why your being so toxic.
When you don't like the truth so you just say it's toxic.
Fucking hell, dude.
Not upset enough to miss out on a deal like that, though!
Oh, NOW they noticed his grifting.
If his last bible episode didn’t end his Christian support, I doubt this will either.
This whole grift is specifically set up to allow churches to donate money to him without breaking the law.
Yup. Churches can’t donate to politicians directly, but they can buy comically overpriced bibles in bulk. We can’t donate $60k to a political campaign, but we can buy 1000 bibles and claim it’s for replacing the books in the church pews.
Or the time he held the bible upside down talking about it for 10 min while cops tear gassed protesters
It was a last Bible episode
How in the name of holy fucking shit can anybody want this guy as their president? What the fuck is wrong with people!
They didn’t give a shit last week when he compared himself to Jesus. They won’t care about this.
Remember the uproar when the Beatles compared themselves to Jesus?
What he should start selling is little golden statues of himself. That'd be pretty biblical lol
There's already a prototype, and not a whiff of irony.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/27/golden-trump-statue-mexico-cpac
I don't believe it, other than a handful. If there's a study I might be interested, some random people on social media... eh.
A sample size of a few dozen people complaining online while thousands quietly purchase said bibles. Absolutely not buying into "the fury of Christians" either.
The people in the article don’t even sound like they were trump supporters to begin with.
Anecdotally, I've seen a little more backlash to this than other issues. Until kow they've kinda bee willfully ignoring that he's evil because he hasn't been overt that he's using people's faith as a tool.
But directly trying to sell expensive Bibles to the faithful so they'll pay for his rape penalty is pretty galling no matter how you look at it.
They'll still vote for him.
But angry
I hope it really ruins their day
But I'm still voting for him
/s, I wish
Their handlers (pastors, Fox News, OANN, etc) have made them genuinely terrified that everyone outside their echo-chamber are "baby-murdering, child-grooming, liberal perverts that want to force you to swear allegiance to the Beast of the End Times". Any attempt to validate those claims is not just treason, but literal religious heresy. I'm sure you don't need to be told, but I'll say it anyway: I am not exaggerating.
Even quoting their own scripture at them (because it absolutely disagrees with almost everything they stand for) is immediately disregarded... because remember: not doing as your told is the work of Satan, and "even the devil can quote scripture."
There is no redemption for people like that (see: Matthew 23:13).
I find it amusing that given they are such good Christians they couldn't have just written their own translation and depend instead of the public domain King James Bible.
Combination of church and state
Yeah sure. Maybe the Christians that didn't already love him.
In a late stage capitalist system it's a national security issue to have a president in such a severe amount of debt. It should be a requirement to be personally debt free to be president.
I don't know if debt should be a factor. Being a criminal should though
This amount of debt absolutely must be a factor. It puts someone at so much more risk for being coerced or bribed.
I understand your point. But if risks were to be considered, then there are other factors I think are more pressing (such as age, private companies, stock trade etc). The risk of doing something can't be a factor. Having done something should
Sure, I'm not saying debt should be the only factor.
I think that's a very narrow view. Of course risks matter and should be considered when choosing a candidate. In fact, if a candidate has not yet been president before, all you can do is to assess what they might do once they are.
Oh absolutely, so should having been impeached twice.
Don’t worry, no Americans need to buy these. Putin will buy all of them —off the books of course. In an unrelated incident, there were reports of a large fire on DJT’s Mar a Lago property next week.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Trump, who became the presumptive Republican nominee earlier in March, posted a video on his Truth Social platform on Tuesday urging his supporters to buy the "God Bless the USA Bible," inspired by country singer Lee Greenwood's patriotic ballad.
As we lead into Good Friday and Easter, I encourage you to get a copy of the God Bless the USA Bible," Trump wrote in the post, alongside a link to a website selling the book for $59.99.
Today, much like Jesus overturning the moneychangers' tables, Christians are sick of seeing MAGA's false prophets twist our loving faith for an agenda of hatred and selfishness.
He has completely trashed our political party & now he's trying to ruin our faith community for his own ends," Heath Mayo, a conservative lawyer, wrote on X, formerly Twitter.
As well as a King James Version translation, it includes copies of the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance, as well as a handwritten chorus of "God Bless the USA" by Greenwood.
He has also sold digital trading cards that portrayed him in cartoon-like images as a number of characters, including as a superhero, astronaut and NASCAR driver.
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Good lemming!
Fuck the lot of em
How many of you have watched this John KJV Bible by Alexander Scourby