Israeli missile has struck Iran, US officials say - BBC News
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An Israeli missile has hit Iran, two US officials have told the BBC's US partner CBS News.
Iranian state media is reporting that flights have been suspended over several cities, according to Associated Press.
Iran has been on high alert after Israel said it would respond to an Iranian attack against it on Saturday night
It would have been nice if this world wasn't run by fucking children.
literally every anarchist has been saying this for centuries.
whatever your politics, welcome to team 'at least some of the people in the room should be adults, we have nukes floating around ffs'
Nothing an old anarchist hates more than a new anarchist. They ruined anarchism, I tell you!
Epstein already proved that and allegedly a Mossad agent. How much blackmail does Bibi have on Biden?
Biden expressed his love for israel way before Netanyahu was a political candidate.
True dat... Biden, "I'm a Zionist," knows his place.
Israel is doing its part by killing them all.
Demented sociopathic children. Normal children would do a better job.
The world would be a lot better off of it was, actually.
Fuck Netanyahu.
If he starts WW3 he can get fucked... though we should try and grant asylum to all current residents of Palestine and Isreal.
You can rest well that russian cunt Putin has already warmed up the engine for WW3
Team Rocket powered nuclear bomb will do it together.
Prepare for trouble, make it double.
He is a bloodthirsty idiot of the worst kind
Oh FFS. This had better be an extremely limited response to Iran's response to Israel's bombing of an embassy. Here's hoping it's just the same type of symbolic attack that Iran made last weekend - all show and no intent. Just Israel refusing to let anyone else have the last word.
Anything more serious and things are about to become very messy and even more expensive. Although it would explain why Israel is suddenly arranging to get dozens of jets from the US in the last month or so. Lord knows they don't seem necessary if the only goal is to keep blowing up Palestinians.
Forgive what feels like a nitpick, but we should take a moment for wider historical scorn. WaPo at the end of March:
Biden owns the fuckup, but it comes after all the shit Israel put the administrations of Dubya, Obama, and Individual 1 through, and after all the atrocities upon the Great March of Return and the other surges of conflict. The planes could fill another allies’ order, the MIC could get their warbucks, and Joey could have kicked the can down the road, but here we are.
why the fuck do they have f-35s?
the Americans aren't even giving peripheral NATO countries f-35's, are they?
why the fuck are they getting f-35's?
even RPing as an american imperialist, I cannot think of a reason other than 'for the evulz'.
is it bad if I just link you an entire ass book?
ugh that makes sense.
is... is Donald trump the less apocalyptic option?
are you serious?
that's why I'm fucking shocked. all biden has to do is just fucking... well at this point he needs to glass the shit hole, but all he had to do last month was stop.
Yes, the US nuking Israel would definitely be less apocalyptic…
they aren't going to stop escalating until they literally can't. just cut to the end and minimize harm to the rest of us.
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I pick marijuana
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What do you mean by "peripheral" NATO countries? If you mean NATO countries other than the US, then I can inform you that some do have F-35 jets.
feel like youre missing the point here, maybe kind of on purpose.
You did ask a question that I attempted to answer... That does not entail in any way that I did not understand the other stuff you wrote nor that I dismissed it.
no? like I know France helped design the thing, so obviously they're getting them, but I know Poland and turkey dont have them yet, and I dont think they're going to soon.
the point is theyre not going to the people who serve amrrica's military interests.
Poland waiting has little to do with politics and more to do with when contracts were signed. They only signed in 2020.
Turkey is trying to develop their own 5th generation fighter after getting kicked out of the f35 program due to being a leaky sieve sending data to the Russians. That's on them.
By and large, the wait elsewhere is mostly to do with the bad reputation the program got before it was operational. Now that it's all in the past and it's proving to be an excellent fighter, contracts with allies are coming in faster than they can be produced. That's the price of waiting.
both kind of the point anf completely missing the point;
there are NATO countries, including those on the border of an ongoing war they expect to join pretty soon, who dont have them. why the fuck are the kapostanis getting them? so they can start world war 3 better?
That's a fair point, no need to apologize for keeping me accurate. I had read and forgotten that detail honestly, because in my head I lump the two deals together - the other one being the new $18 billion contract for F-15s that Biden's administration is seeking approval for currently. I think I mentally shorthand it to "arrangements for new jets going to Israel" but there is definitely detail involved as you point out.
Measured retaliation leads to measured retaliation leads to measured retaliation...
It's fucking hard but Isreal suffered minimally from Iran's bullshit aggression - Netanyahu could "be the bigger man" without losing any face.
Real leaders - real manly men - real strong people of any stripe - those are the people who have the strength to forgive and compromise.
Israel bombed their embassy first, full stop. What are you on about? Iran had a right to defend itself.
Bibi, who has never shown a modicum of restraint when there’s potential for bloodshed, isn’t going to change course until the US forces him to by withholding funding. Considering how Zionist Biden and 2/3 of Congress are, that ain’t happening, so buckle up for some real shit “leadership,” Jack.
Was that first? The embassy bombing was certainly before Iran's counter attack but if you're searching for justification then it's not like Iran and Isreal were buddies before this. Iran has repeatedly funded Hezbollah launching rockets into Isreal and funded the Houthi rebels attacking shipping.
My point was that constantly retaliating is an unhealthy cycle and your take away was that "But actually it's okay if it's in retaliation." Wut.
And Bibi funded Hamas, his (now realized) end-goal being to destabilize the region and provide cover for further Israeli violence and land grabs from the indigenous people.
I agree with you on tit-for-tat bringing about undesirable results, but you lost me on “Iran’s bullshit aggression.” Israel is 6mo+ in all-out genocidal warfare on innocent Palestinian civilians, and still maintains this stems from their “right to defend themselves.” Iran on the other hand exercised immense restraint, coordinated with western powers, and executed a highly telegraphed counter-offensive focused exclusively on military targets in Israel as an overly nice way to say “please don’t bomb our stuff.” In this way I think Iran’s counter-attack was in fact beyond justified. Unless you meant it was bullshit in that it was entirely orchestrated, but I doubt that was your intent.
Netenyahu, being the absolute child that he is, had to strike again anyway. This is in fact unjustified and unprovoked, but to use your own terminology it appears Iran will be the “bigger man” and doesn’t plan on further hostile action. Again highly coordinated with the west, in order to walk on eggshells around the unhinged Israeli government.
The fact of the matter is this: Bibi is a far-right war mongering zealot who needs to be deposed immediately. The US is despicable for providing him cover the way they have. Despite who’s in charge in Israel, they at least offer their citizens basic social safety nets like universal healthcare and paid family leave. America doesn’t have these things, yet it can afford to send Israel 10s of billions to continue murdering brown children?! Israel are warmongers, and America is shameful for backing them.
Bombing consulates and embassies is a nazi move.
"Iran's aggression"
Another day another banger from sh.itjust.works
Iran was aggressive in their retaliation - how the fuck else would you describe launching rockets into another country?
Whether that retaliation was justified is separate from the fact that it was aggressive.
It killed 0 unlike the Israeli attack. Pls zip it back up after you are done.
Au contraire, it was defense and very mild at that. If Israel can kill 40,000+ people because "wE hAvE a rIgHt tO dEfEnD oUrSeLvEs" Iran absolutely can volley some missiles in response to Zionist actions
Neither is justified.
No, it is extremely justified to respond to an attack on an embassy
It's also extremely justified to respond to someone launching missiles at you. Are you really that much of an idiot that you can't see how this ends or are you just arguing in bad faith?
No? If you start the aggression and get a response can you actually fault the other party????
Yea so about half a century ago Iran started some aggression against Isreal, or maybe Isreal's existence was an aggressive move against Iran?
I don't know, which one was at fault originally?
Not sure about Iran but it certainly was aggressive to Palestinians
That's just a quid pro quo kickback between the corporatocracy.
"We'll channel more tax payer money through your military industrial complex if you let us continue with our nationalist ethnostate genocide... We may even start another gulf war and channel trillion$ more"
It's certainly not 300 drones and rockets.
Can we fucking not
we? yes.
biden, evangelicals, and "Israelis"? no. no they physically must do the worst most destructive shit.
We're still trying to paint Biden as worse for Gaza than Trump huh? Like it or not, those are the two choices, so if you shit on Biden enough, you're practically handing Gaza to Israel on a fake gold Trump-branded platter. Regarding Gaza, Trump literally said Israel should, and I quote, "finish the problem".
who said worse?
dead is dead. there is no difference on this issue, the same as they probably like French fries about the same.
fuck Joe burden for not stepping aside and giving us a real shot at stopping fascism. i will not be voting for anyone with a d by their name ever again.
this is a post about world war three though, and biden's making that one happen. I genuinely would have called trump for this, but biden's nailing it.
So, are they going back to opposing the invasion of Rafah, then?
You know, seeing as how Israel just got concessions for promising not to do a thing, then immediately went and did the thing regardless.
Or does Biden just have a humilation fetish? Which fine, no kink-shaming here but maybe keep it in the bedroom.
I have to admit, the phrase 'lifestyle democrat' has a nice ring to it...
The US was aware of the Israeli attack plans, according to CNN. If the US is shooting down Iranian missiles, why don't they shoot down Israeli missiles as well? Nothing good will happen from any sort of missile exchange in that region.
*American missiles
Lol
This guy hegemons 💪
wild how Iran launched missiles at Israel and then was struck by Israeli missiles... the Israeli missiles weren't launched, though. They just sprang into existence above Iran
Iran ATTACKS israel!
Iranian Generals DIED when STRUCK by missile in Consulate!
Importantly, Iran's missiles did not strike Israel, they were shot down in flight.
The same way that a lot of Hollywood dicks were sucked. By Nancy Reagan
Irresponsible decision from Israel, the initial exchange seemed justified with no reason to escalate things.
It wasn't justified by israel the first time either. Anyone with iq above room temperature knows Israel is doing all of this for a reason .
To drag the US into an Afghanistan-style quagmire conflict with Iran, something American evangelicals and far-right military gumbas have been chomping at the bit for since the Carter Administration?
John Bolton literally has made this his life's mission and has been working non-stop for it
We don't want to go to war in the middle east. You are 100 percent right that some conservatives have been after that forever. Luckily I hope that as a nation we have grown past policing the world and being involved by sending troops. We can't handle another war right now.
Conservatives? Who is president right now?
Did you read the comment I responded to?
Yeah far right evangelicals. Aka Joe Biden.
You can't fire 300 drones and ballistic missiles at a country and not expect a response back. It was so over the top they had to respond. The response is so mild I think we can all step back now
don't worry i'm sure the us and uk will come out as forcefully against this as they did against iran right?
Listen, Israel has a right to exist, and part of Israeli's existence is firing missiles at its neighbors, so maybe back off and stop being anti-Semitic about this why dontcha?
This is too subtle for the internet, or at least I hope it is
don't worry im gay so i roll advantage on sarcasm checks
Yeah most likely. The reaction to Iran's strike was to underline that it was against military targets and that they wouldn't assist Israel in striking back.
So as long as they don't help Iran hit back against Israel, then yeah the reaction will be the same.
Welp...
I hope Kate Winslet has sex with me before I die
I wish the EU would grow a backbone and tell the US to stop stoking fires in our backyard
Germany and Italy are also big on giving aid to Israel so Idk if the EU is going to be able to help either.
Germany pretty much makes it illegal to even say anything negative about Israel
It is not illegal. You will only get publicly humiliated, have your house raided on bullshit reasons and if you get any government funding for anything you did, you can say bye bye to that. Especially if you are jewish and dissenting to the zionist agenda. Jews are disproportionaly targeted by these measures. Because nothing protects Jews form antisemitism, like targeting Jews that "stepped out of line" in the eyes of the pro zionist government.
I don't have the link handy but I read that Jews make up about 1% of the population of Germany and have been the accused in about 30% of the cases of antisemitism, lol.
I don't disagree with you there. Labeling people as antisemetic and a Nazi has been used as a weapon for a long time to target anyone that went against the Zionist agenda.
Germany is also the second-largest provider of aid to Palestinians since 1948 and was the largest provider of food last year.
Did Fallout release at the perfect time?
" I don't want to set the world on fire, oh fuck it, yes I do." - Netanyahu
1997?
This is 53 years early according to the lore. Not sure if we can make it that long.
I think you mean 70 years late? That was definitely the 50s in the show.
No, the Great War in the Fallout universe happened in 2077. The 50s revival was just the fashion at that time.
Just like the 50s were a time when technological advances were spreading rapidly, the Great War happened during the time of technological breakthroughs like personal assistant robots and fusion power.
Ok, that does explain some things. But it seemed to me like the technology is all kind of slow and bulky. The mech suits, and the doc was able to outrun those turrets. I thought that was because it was the 50s when the war happened, but I guess not?
This is important, pinning it for now.
Let's keep the discussion here and not post it 14 more times.
You heard it folks, 13 more times is ok!
:P
Lmao inverse whataboutism
Iran reporting that it was countered and "no damage", but also not seeing a lot of reporting that Israel also struck more areas in Syria... wonderful
These posts always focus on how USA are the bad guys for support Israel, but I wonder how popular this war is in Israel. Do the Israeli people support what Netanyahu is doing?
They support the Genocide of Palesitnians, but attacking Iran had a majority opposition. Because Iran can shoot back.
IDI are vocal in their criticism of Netanyahu, but their statistical methods tend to hold up. They answer your question pretty succinctly:
And also:
Wait.
So, in response to the 300 weapon systems that US/Israel roughly blocked all of. (1 casualty from defensive shrapnel)
In turn Israel launched 1 missile, and it hit?
Ooof.
Israel, the US, the UK, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel didn't do it on their own.
Based on US and EU reports, Israel intercepted very few of them. The US alone claimed more than half, and the EU+Jordan was another roughly 25%
ive been saying it for a long time, but you make a choice every day: do you want the possibility of world peace, or do you want to draw 'protocols of the elders of zion' fanfic on your maps.
and I guess they're just hungry for fanfic.
I'd be careful about considering Israel's defense as a complete success, or at least an easy one. According to Israeli sources cited in this article, achieving that result cost Israel as much as $1-1.3 billion USD, and I can't find out if that includes the price of interception by other countries - a lot of the heavy lifting was done by the USA after all. Given that they say that's the cost for Israel specifically, I don't think it does but I can't find sources. Regardless, it's a big bill for an attack that everyone knew was coming days in advance and gives a sense of the economics involved in an open war several times more intense.
It’s also incredibly significant for future missile attack that all their radars turned on and all those intercept assets are revealed and clocked and analyzed. Assuming a video going around portrays what it claims, Hezbollah even zeroed in and missiled an Iron Dome launcher site during the attack.
Counterbattery in general is fucking hard. If the proxy can pull that shit off, you had better expect the state actor to take even greater advantage.
Iran also gave notice of their attacks.
it's a complete success compared to Iran's defensive measures
How so? I'm honestly asking if you have a source. As of the most recent updates, Iran is reporting no damage, no threats, and has lifted the restrictions on flights in their airspace. There were explosions heard, but the source is unknown and Iran has said air defenses shot down 3 drones.
In response? What response? Did you forget israel assasinating top generals in an embassy
History is starting on April 13 lmao.
Pray tell me why they targeted these specific generals.
Cause Idf are nazis
Sounds like drones as well according to BBC.
Drones we most likely for targeting and damage assessment
Who would win; tens of billions of dollars worth of US-built air defence systems, or whatever surplus scrap the Chinese or Russians have flogged to Iran recently
The US just gave approval for more Genocide, another assault on millions of starving refugees that are mostly children, only for Israel to break their one concession in mere hours... Luckily no casualties are reported, hopefully this doesn't escalate.
All is going according to plan:
For those curious: it's just an analysis by the Brookings think tank. It has nothing to do with the official position of US agencies.
And for bonus points, it's basically just a list of every possible approach, starting with diplomatic approaches at the top:
It's "all going to plan" in the same way "guessing all 52 cards in the deck until one of them is right" is a magic trick
Actually given your comment, it's more like someone else listing all the cards until it's right, and then just saying "tada" when they say the right one
I just provided a link that shows sometimes those guesses have merit. But continue to dismiss those trying to provide background information. I’m sure it won’t lead us like it did in Iraq or to WW3.
Edit: Let’s look at the careers of the signees of this foreign policy document:
So, this paper isn’t just for fun. These people are CIA, ambassadors, advisors and served in administrations. This is the shit that gets things done in Washington. To dismiss it is negligent.
I, too, enjoy reading only half a comment.
The issue isn't "providing background context," it's presenting an advisory document of all the possible approaches to a diplomatic scenario as being some sort of conspiracy, rather than the result of some people literally just doing the job they are paid to do.
By just linking an enormous document and presenting it as if it were some massive revelation, you're basically just relying on people not bothering to read the document and accepting the inference that the document actually just says only the thing that has happened.
Yeah, sure. War is spontaneous, and not planned at all. It’s not a revelation or conspiracy, it’s years of groundwork and planning. I displayed that war with Iran has been in the works for at least a decade. You- it’s a conspiracy.
You're (intentionally?) misunderstanding literally every sentence of my comment
If all of this is true, my statement still stands. Practically every decision America makes towards Iran has been planned and contemplated.
So. A plan. Just like I stated in my original comment.
Ftfy
No shit they consider decisions before making them lmfao
No, these people are former CIA, ambassadors, etc that have pivoted to a think tank, which is common. There is a revolving door just like in any ecosystem of industries/entities that overlap. Also, the document addresses multiple strategies.
former CIA. lol 😂 Revolving door! Your words.
I never said this attack is in the document. I’m only showing that the Warhawks in and out of think tanks in the government have been contemplating and planning for a war with Iran.
The military and think tanks plan for everything. But no, they have no plans for Iran. Just lots of former government officials earning 3 figure salaries for funsies.
Yes, every professional field has adjacent areas of operation. Geneticists aren't going to work in astrophysics and truck drivers aren't suddenly going to child education conferences. That's what the revolving door refers to. Shocking, I know.
Point?
Because you make the revolving door sound like a nefarious scheme and I'm telling you it's the most common thing for professionals in similar fields to intermingle.
Where?
Do other professionals in similar fields overthrow sovereign governments and stage coups?
Dear ChatGPT: give me the token cringe emo teen politics take. I need to feel some pain today. Please daddy. Jfc.
For those curious: the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) was a think tank in D.C. that provided the blueprint for the war in Iraq.
William Spaniel released his analysis of the situation and next steps. He puts out some decent analysis.
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Give all parties involved nuclear weapons. See how warlike the Israelis are when all of their targets have nukes.
It disappoints me that others don’t understand this comment. Only one nation has ever used a nuclear weapon in war.