I know it's .ml where such things happen but ffs! This guy needs to fucking chill 🤦
worldnews at .ml is a dumpster fire. First community I had to completely scrub from my instance because it was just so toxic from top to bottom.
Edit: Also, will share my last comment there before I self-banned and purged that cesspit from my instance. This is in reply to someone making a fat joke about Kim Jong Un:
Good 'ol ambiguous Rule 1 lol
What you didn't realize is that Kim Jong II is actually the mod
Margaret Cho played the absolute hell out of that role 😆
I tried to give that instance the benefit of the doubt at first, but I just block all lemmy.ml communities when I see them now. There's just too much user and ideology overlap with lemmygrad and hexbear. The worldnews sub was especially bad though. Disinformation & insults everywhere, but they're never removed despite reports, because they're part of their side & agenda. It's basically lemmygrad in disguise.
I don't block them, but I use non-ml communities in preference to ml-based communities. I don't think that I'm currently subscribed to any ml-based communities.
You too, huh!
Fucking mods, this is Reddit all over again.
And fuck off whoever that tells me again to set up my own instance. What I want is popular instance admins and mods to pull out the stick out of their asses, because free speech instances that get defederated at the speed of light are of no use.
And there's no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.
/rant
And fuck off whoever that tells me again to set up my own instance. What I want is popular instance admins and mods to
Seriously though you're making demands that other people work for free in a manner that will benefit you.
Way I see it, either take some of the free lunch that's on offer or make your own.
And there's no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.
..except all of them. At least for Android.
Here's the one's I've used with seamless multiaccount functionality: Liftoff (RIP), Jerboa, Thunder, Connect, Boost, and Voyager
Sync too, but I only used it briefly because fuck ads.
Yeah... no. Jerboa has no seamless multiaccount. You can have multiple accounts in Jerboa, but you have to switch from one to another.
I want a client that can be logged on to multiple accounts at once and display a unified feed of all of them. Technically complex, but not impossible.
I was indeed told about Liftoff before, but doesn't seem to work with instances such as lemm.ee
I want a client that can be logged on to multiple accounts at once and display a unified feed of all of them.
...why would you want that? Sounds like there'd be a lot of overlap and confusion..
I want a client that can be logged on to multiple accounts at once and display a unified feed of all of them.
If I had to guess, it's that someone wants to keep content that Account 1 deals with separate from content that Account 2 deals with without needing to manually flip back and forth.
Like, someone may not want to associate their identity on !cs_career_questions@programming.dev with their identity on !femdom@lemmynsfw.com, in much the same way that in real life, they (presumably) wouldn't have videos of the latter playing in their office when talking with people about the former.
Yeah, I get the separation thing. That's why I don't get wanting to combine them top Lol.
If I had a clean account that I might sometimes use at work, the LAST thing I'd want would be for it to seamlessly combine with my porn alt or whatever lol
Well, yeah, but I was thinking less about "browsing the Threadiverse in the office", and more "person is at home and wanting all the content at once". Like, the concern is less people who are physically present and more that one wants to keep online relationships separate.
I mean, I dunno. I can understand the idea, at any rate. I've posted (pretty tame) AI-generated pornography when aiming to highlight that Stable Diffusion's regional prompting feature could be used to generate porn, and remember thinking "eh, it might be a good idea to stick this on a separate account", but didn't ultimately care enough. But I can definitely see someone wanting to separate spheres of of their online life. I mean, to greater or lesser extent, people act differently with their parents, their coworkers, their kids, their spouse, etc. It'd be a little odd if things were different online.
It would be the closest to bypass defederation client-side.
Sounds like there'd be a lot of overlap and confusion..
Not if the client was properly designed. Content ovelap/duplication could be handled by prioritizing one instance over others, and if two accounts have acces to the same instance, there could be a prompt letting you to choose the account to post from or also an option to prioritize accounts.
It's complex but doable.
free speech instances that get defederated at the speed of light are of no use.
I use lemmy.today. The instance policy there is to try to avoid any defederation, and thus far, it has an empty blocklist.
Now, that doesn't mean that there won't also be instances that will defederate with your favorite instance. But, you know, people aren't required to listen. You can only speak to people who want to hear what you want to say. I think that that's probably really the only reasonable way for things to work. I mean, even user-level user blocking and choosing what communities to view is a form of filtering content.
This is the comment and of course toothy banned me for 3 days too.
Just like they did for "sinophobia" when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦
That's like that meme post from a few years ago where it's like (paraphrased):
Person 1: "I can't stand homophobes"
Person 2: How dare you insult Christians like that.
Person 1: I never said "Christians". You jumped on that grenade all by yourself.
Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦
Just love the thing where they twist any criticism of the Chinese state into perceived hate for Chinese people, but are so apprehensive when Israel tries to do the same. It's reprehensible.
Besides which it's a qualitative judgment so unless they did a full on Content Analysis grid on your ass, I'd probably not know what they meant, unless you were doing something really obvious like calling the Chinese "inscrutible".
I still kind of enjoy the novelty of seeing mods censor people for this arcane stuff. I wouldn't want to be on that instance but I quite like visiting it.
I believe it was in reference to a comment about Mao and Stalin
Treating Asian culture or people as a particular stereotype.
Criticizing China in any way.
Ahhh now that adds up
Yeah that's some petty bullshit.
Side note but I really appreciate the mod log feature.
Yeah, me too. It's a great feature!
If only we could see mod names in the modlog..
You can in a link from your profile tab in Voyager, that's were I got the dark mode screenshot from 🙂
Oh, that's cool. But it would be cooler if it was visible in the instances' modlog aswell
I was also banned from worldnews@lemmy.ml and had comments removed for "Re-enforcing neo-liberal cultural hegemony" and "Believes in objectivity in media lmao".
My offense? Saying that a report sourced solely from an eye-witness account via Al-Jazeera regarding another massacre of civilians and aid workers in Gaza needed to be corroborated by further evidence before we regard it as hard fact. The irony is I'm very much pro-Palestinan.
According to the mods, however, that apparently means I have to throw all media literacy out of the window and blindly accept any anti-Israel claims without question.
That community is wild, but the discussion over Gaza over there is fucking crazy. Al Jazeera is one of their more credible sources, you can find articles from websites nobody every heard of, small blogs that state IDF soldiers are eating babies. And that is no exaggeration, that was the last thing I read before I left that community...
Exactly what prompted me to comment, since the blog that sourced Al-Jazeera also added certain details that didn't seem based on anything like actual evidence. Although I admit it wasn't anything near as extreme as the IDF canibalizing babies.
If we must call out pro-Israel propaganda that makes outrageous, unsubstantiated claims like that, we must do the same for pro-Palestinian propaganda, regardless of how we personally feel about the conflict.
I start almost every comment I make on those instances with
I know this will net me a ban
to play a bit of reverse psychology with the mods there, who don't touch my comments when the denizens there inevitablely say
Oh yeah you think you're so smart well we don't ban opposing opinions unlike some places
And the mods there have their hands tied because banning me would prove their own guys wrong.
It's worked pretty well so far.
This….. is fucking brilliant.
There's such a polarization and paranoia that any comment that's not 100% unwavering support is considered an attack.
The irony of a communist banning someone over "McCarthyism" when what the banned user said was not even close to McCarthyism, making the mod action itself McCarthyism.
They've become the very thing they hate!
Everything I don't like is McCarthyism
I don't like gourd veggies. Is that McCarthyism too?
This engine is McCarthyism.
Oh is this the new "Gaslighting"?
You were suppose to destroy the Sith, not join them
Usually I hop in these threads ready to tell people why they deserve to be banned, but dang. There is nothing wrong, ethically or factually, in what you said.
One of their mods banned me for pointing out that Chiang Kai-Shek genocided the communists in China before the Long March. Sometimes they hurt themselves in their confusion.
It's just a job for them, at the end of the day.
Not saying he should have been banned, but factually it was wrong, the FRG was mostly staffed by "former" Nazis. A lot of Germans saw it that way, see Baader-Meinhof.
Also it's disingenuous to call one of the biggest arms manufacturers who supplied arms to some of the worst regimes, Israel, Sudan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Russia "pacifist".
Sure would be nice if your instance would allow you to rebut op with your view of the situation rather than scrub their comment and ban them. Lemmy needs more content to grow and over active jannies don’t help on that front.
Frankly everything these days is a matter of option. You aren't going to get anywhere by trying to force an issue. A mod should simply let the community correct any factual errors so they are not getting involved.
To be fair discussing politics online was a disaster on day one
see Baader-Meinhof
Yep the whole thing was, in retrospect, the second wave of denazification. Less so about the actual ideology, but deeper attitudes underpinning it. Things like the Jubelperser incident are completely unthinkable nowadays. The attitude by far isn't dead yet as you can see e.g. when it comes to the reaction to Extinction Rebellion but it's quite a ways from its former harshness and unquestioned acceptance.
And just for the record: The RAF's methods were never in any way popular. A cultish splinter group of a splinter group with very problematic internal dynamics not taking long to be more occupied with employing terrorism to free its members from prison than with any political struggle. Lots of issues with the urban guerilla in general, CCK Philosophy has an essay about it.
Reducing the whole 68 movement in Germany to the RAF would be doing it a great disservice.
And just for the record: The RAF’s methods were never in any way popular.
I have to say that it's kind of annoying that the Red Army Faction shares an acronym with the Royal Air Force. Every time I see the thing, I do a momentary double-take.
They themselves couldn't even get the name straight, in German publications they used Rote Armee Fraktion, in English Red Army Faction. The distinction between fraction and faction is the exact same in German and English (fraction is a mere part of a unified whole, while a faction disagrees with the rest of the whole, to put it simply).
Admitted to supporting and arming Neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalist groups like the Azov battalion in Ukraine to overthrow it’s former pro-Russia govt, 2. Ukraine now has a pro-US, nazi-glorifying government with ultranationalism, anti-semitism, neo-nazi pogroms, and attacks on LGBT groups.
Dessalines is in the "we need the Soviet Union back and Stalin is awesome" camp. He was using a picture of Stalin as his profile picture for a while.
Like complaining about attacks on LGBT people while supporting Russia and the USSR seems just the most hypocritical thing I can think of. Does he not know Stalin mandated a 5 year minimum forced labor sentence in Siberia for being gay and Russia today is only mildly better for LGBT people.
Frankly, I think that complaining that a government headed by a Jewish guy is anti-semitic is even more bonkers.
That being said, I'm sure that dessalines didn't originate that himself -- that's apparently big in Russia's propaganda.
Lavrov, Russia's foreign minister, rather infamously had a quote shortly after the start of the invasion, when asked about the whole "how anti-Semitic can Ukrainians be if they chose to elect a Jewish president" thing:
Lavrov was asked about Russia's claim that it had invaded Ukraine to "denazify" the country, which has a democratically-elected Jewish president.
"So when they say 'How can Nazification exist if we're Jewish?' In my opinion, Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it doesn't mean absolutely anything," he told the station in Russian, referring to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's religion, according to the Associated Press. "For some time we have heard from the Jewish people that the biggest antisemites were Jewish."
Nazi and fascist have different meanings in Russia. They mean people working against the interests of Russia, it originates from the USSR. For example the gay community was labeled fascist during the soviet occupation here.
I think that complaining that a government headed by a Jewish guy is anti-semitic is even more bonkers.
* frantically points to Israel *
You know there crazy when they think the left is the far right
TBF the Azov Battalion is a real neo nazi us funded (through Ukraine support) group... So... Not entirely wrong?
Sure. You can find ideologically opposite militias fighting for Ukraine too, though. Zelensky is in charge and he's obviously not a Nazi. He's a Jewish guy who really wants to save Ukraine as it is and is completely willing to go full Western-progressive to do it. Singling Azov out without the context is basically a propaganda technique.
Also, Russia is acting a bit like Nazis from the very highest levels, except a shittier more openly corrupt version.
Yeah I don't disagree that the overall claim by Russia is bullshit, that doesn't take away from the fact they do exist and are outwardly nazi.
Oh, yea, the Ukrain military has a bit of a nazi problem but the time to deal with that is not when you are being invaded. Also the nazi talking point is mostly a red herring anyways since the nazi problem in Russia is magnitudes worse and isn't limited to their military.
So it's technically not wrong but tankies don't really have a problem with nazies, otherwise they wouldn't be defending Russia, they are anti USA and will side with anything that's even close to that side with no regards to any other belief. I'm not a fan of the US either but I'm not going to blindly support anything against it either.
You can ask your own instance admin if they're willing to defederate
All of the .ml instances are absolutely Russian psyops and you can’t change my mind
(I jest… mostly…)
I'm convinced they're US psyops to make communists look like idiots. I don't agree with most of communism, but I can respect people with different views. But the tankies on Lemmy are doing such a hard double dutch rudder on China and Russia they can't be real. Nobody is that stupid, right? And then I remember how many people are going to vote for trump. Yes, the world really is this stupid all around. Idiots are taking over. The stupid people are breeding. Nationalists that feel it's their duty to populate the homeland.
Tankies on lemmy are absolutely that stupid. I argue with them all the time. And like OP, I get posts removed and banned often. Across several accounts.
Across several accounts
I choose to believe those tankies are doing the same, and it's just one tankie you're arguing with. In fact all tankies arguments on Lemmy are just at argument between you and other said tankie dude on new accounts.
Damn, that dude types FAST! Reads super fast too, although his reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired 😄
ChatGPTankie
Yes, the world really is this stupid all around.
Well, that's the glass-is-half-empty view.
Another way to look at it is that from an evolutionary timeline standpoint, we're a bunch of hairless ground apes quite recently spending most of our time living in caves in groups of maybe150 at most. We've been, in an evolutionary blink of an eye, propelled rapidly into a horribly-different and rather-confusing environment, and still trying to get by on our cave-dwelling adaptations. And in that context, perhaps we're doing quite well.
It has been observed that if the last 50,000 years of man’s existence were divided into lifetimes of approximately sixty-two years each, there have been about 800 such lifetimes. Of these 800, fully 650 were spent in caves. Only during the last seventy lifetimes has it been possible to communicate effectively from one lifetime to another—as writing made it possible to do. Only during the last six lifetimes did masses of men ever see a printed word. Only during the last four has it been possible to measure time with any precision. Only in the last two has anyone anywhere used an electric motor. And the overwhelming majority of all the material goods we use in daily life today have been developed within the present, the 800th, lifetime.
-- Future Shock, Alvin Toffler, 1970
You're right that they aren't real communists, that's a mask they wear to spread Kremlin and CCP propaganda.
The idea that they're run by the US government is ridiculous, they're full of hateful anti-Western content.
Yeah, its the stark advocating of minority rights/protection on one hand and the intense jerking off of dictators with the other that breaks my brain with Tankies
I dont know anybody on .ml, lemmygrad or hexbear who supports russia, i really dont know where the lib world people got that strawman from.
Babe, wake up; a new .ml wrongthink euphemism dropped
Oh, I got banished from a whole instance on Mastadon for saying that the Apple Safari team looks at every bug request (and they do):
Little fucking Napoleons will ruin social media, not matter what platform.
You sure it wasn't because the admins harbor deep resentment toward both Dutch people and guys named James and you just had the bad fortune to exemplify everything they hate?
First off, …HEY! 🧐
Secondly, this isn’t “Goldmember”. Should I arbitrarily hate other countries for shits and giggles? …And who says I’m even Dutch? Maybe I’m like Kirk and I only work in The Netherlands.
Thirdly, they seem to love to hate on Apple there. I had the comeuppance to suggest Jen Simmons and the Safari team actually read the bug submissions (and she’s recently been on numerous videos, podcasts, and in posts on Mastadon saying so) and pushed back on their emoji-malarky.
On some instances, opinions other than the admins need not apply. Hopefully you’re not suggesting as much, even with the digs at the Dutch (who aren’t that bad, but like many, many other countries, aren’t all good either).
this isn’t “Goldmember”. Should I arbitrarily hate other countries for shits and giggles?
Absolutely not, I didn't mean to imply approval, merely to make fun of bad mods by ascribing bigotry to them 😉
And who says I’m even Dutch? Maybe I’m like Kirk and I only work in The Netherlands
True, but anyone unreasonable enough to be bigoted towards the Dutch probably don't care about such distinctions 🤷
they seem to love to hate on Apple there
That's the only thing they're right about, though. They shouldn't have banned you for your comment, especially not if it's true, but Apple DOES suck in nearly every way possible 🤷
On some instances, opinions other than the admins need not apply.
Yeah, I've noticed lol
Hopefully you’re not suggesting as much, even with the digs at the Dutch
For the record, I'm a big fan of the Dutch in general 😄
Belgians I can take or leave, though..except on second thought they make some truly wonderful beer so they can stay 😁😉
If I only hate the Dutch that means all people I hate must be Dutch. Simple as.
All cool on many things, except one:
they seem to love to hate on Apple there
That's the only thing they're right about, though. They shouldn't have banned you for your comment, especially not if it's true, but Apple DOES suck in nearly every way possible 🤷
To which, all I can say is:
Which instance? We should maintain a list of these instances to ensure we don't lose our data due to idiots like them.
Being a moderator is the only amount of power these people will ever have, and they like it, and will absolutely abuse it.
It's not just pettiness. They're pushing manipulation.
You guys are getting notifications? I just notice the lack of upvotes after a while posting into the void.
Some of the mods will cite the reason for take-down, which is genuinely nice and appreciated and something I forgot even existed after too much time on Reddit.
Interesting. Reddit does prompt you to give a removal message, or did at one time.
.ml tends to slap "rule 1" on everything, which says don't be a bigot, even if that's obviously not what the comment was about.
.ml tends to slap "rule 1" on everything, which says don't be a bigot, even if that's obviously not what the comment was about.
[emphasis mine]
Sure about that? From what I’ve seen, anything said in disagreement with the predominant opinion over there (and on hexbear, especially on hexbear) is deemed “bigotry”. They don’t appear to be interested in ingratiating anyone to the cause.
... That's exactly what I said. Or, at least, what I tried to say.
Some of it is actual bigotry, because this is still the internet, but if they just want to shut someone up it's also "rule 1".
Okay, gotcha, I was looking at it from their point of view, which is that everything to them is bigotry, not realizing that that’s what you were saying in the first place. The bad, it is mine.
4. 1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
Nope, it's still rule 1 on .ml specifically. Or are you accusing me of bigotry out of the blue? That would be ironic in this context.
I’m simply quoting lemmy.ml's rule 1 in its entirety. I wrote "4" in error.
which says don’t be a bigot, even if that’s obviously not what the comment was about.
Maybe. But I also see a lot of 4chan-esque double speak and "Free Speech" concern trolling that's all the fuck over Reddit constantly without ever getting any kind of take down.
Reddit admins have automated so much of their policy that you're posting in a minefield. You don't know what arcane caveat you're going to trip over that'll get you suspended or banned. But you still find yourself hip deep in the most virulent bigoted, war-mongering, and overtly vile comment threads, because older heads know how to tip toe around the trigger words.
Yeah, both can be true. There's no way they're close checking every comment on the instance, looking at the rate of mod actions versus traffic.
Head over to lemmy.ml and scroll to the mod log link at the bottom if you want to see for yourself. A lot of it is just slightly different views on the same socialist stuff. Like the time I said Dengism was just thinly-veiled capitalism, and got banned.
Head over to lemmy.ml and scroll to the mod log link at the bottom if you want to see for yourself.
Its a low-pop, low-activity community. If you're genuinely worried about the evil online leftists, I'd be far more scared of Hexbear than lemmy.ml.
It's literally one of, if not the, original community, and it's the one maintained by Lemmy's developers. It's probably smaller than .world, but dwarfs my instance.
If you try to post again and get a certain error you're banned from the community, then you can check that community's server's mod log (if it's public)
It just silently goes through, but nobody else can see it. I only know it happened because of the modlog. Weirdly enough they got me the first time for mild criticism of Israel, which I did not expect to be an issue on there.
Might be silent removal of posts instead of ban
Nope, it was a two-week ban in the .ml mod log, both times.
I should look at the source code a bit, see how bans are supposed to work. It could be a federation issue of some kind if I'm supposed to be notified.
I was banned for "Rule 4" which, by digging through their rules (which weren't as easy to find as I expected it to be) I learnt that it was "Illegal content". I literally never posted a comment, post or had ANY kind of interaction on lemmy before. THIS would be my first comment.
I had a post made up of almost exclusively links to news sources (to back up a previous claim) removed due to being "uncivil"
Something similar happened to me with a community on hexbear. Never posted but I already had a ban. The mods must have seen a comment or something on a different community on the instance. Some of the mods there are just as think skinned as on ml.
The rules are generally on the sidebar of the community or instance (depending on if you want to know the rules of the community or instance).
Just block the community/instance and move on
checks lemmyverse.net
There also appears to be a world news community on lemmy.world, if that's more people's speed.
No, even though they don't like the instance, they are required to post in it for whatever reason and then cry when they predictably get modded.
Makes sense!
It's funny to me that they don't admit what they said but want sympathy apparently.
Time for an alternate community
What is lemmy.ml and lemmygrad? I'm just a casual using Voyager
Instances operated by pro-Russian or pro-BRIC individuals/groups that have no interest in dissenting opinion and often spill out into the rest of the fediverse posting anti-western propaganda.
Basically, it's flat Earth theory but for geopolitics. They believe the exact opposite of what everyone else does so they can have a tight-knit community devoted to being smugly superior to the sheeple.
That's a good way of putting it
Hexbear falls under this umbrella, right?
Absolutely. Hexbear seems like the most insular and loud one of all. Lemmy.ml can be fairly normal sometimes, actually, just because it's the OG site and gets a lot of general traffic.
They defederated ages ago.
Does this break the rules of the fediverse?
What rules?
The rules are what each instance operator makes them (outside of breaking laws). It’s up to the other instance operators to defederate from instances that they don’t want direct sharing with for whatever reasons. So if lemmygrad wants to be anti-west, make anti-western posts, comment on current events and insinuate or blame the West for whatever, post trolling comments or fake news, that’s what will happen.
Even breaking laws could fare fine if they're unimportant enough. A child porn instance would have cops breaking down the server room door, but I'm pretty sure there's already piracy-friendly instances, and a shoplifting one can't be far behind.
A child porn instance would have cops breaking down the server room door
Burggit.moe does synthetic child porn, stuff like loli/shota material. That's First Amendment-protected in the US (and is apparently legal in the Netherlands, where the server says that it lives), but is illegal in a number of countries in the EU.
piracy-friendly instances
lemmy.dbzer0.com was created specifically to do piracy stuff, and is one of the major Threadiverse instances. And db0 himself has contributed a fair bit of software to improving Threadiverse infrastructure:
A drawn loli seems like a victimless crime to me too, TBH. I find it personally gross, but I mind my own business.
Interested to see if this starts shit.
even BRICS are bad now?
I don't believe lemmy.ml's are pro russian, at least not in that way.
It's not as bad as Lemmygrad but most news threads about Russia/China/Ukraine are a total shitshow over there.
Instances operated by pro-Russian or pro-BRIC individuals/groups
"Everyone I Don't Like is Hitler An Evil Foreigner"
They're something to add to your block list.
How to block? And I'm still a bit confused about instances. How do I know which I joined?
You're on lemmy.world
You can go to https://lemmy.world/settings click the blocks tab up top, and then add instances to block in there, in the box marked "Block instance".
I think lemmy.world has already defederated lemmygrad and hexbear, so you should just need to add lemmy.ml
Thank you!
Thanks. I wanted to create a Lemmy account and this one seemed like the the most generic default one, huge user base, ran by the Lemmy devs, all right surely it's the safest, most non-controversial choice.
Then I see stuff like this.
I just had one removed from news as well. I don't even remember what I said though so I somehow doubt it was something that crazy
Found it in the modlog, not posting it here, but you suggested someone killing themselves was a good thing... Yeah, that's going to get removed.
Feel free to type in my name, I already got a ban.
Sorry I got a little to hot about Russia out producing the USA in artillery shells this far into the Ukraine war. I feel like we spent trillions on defense, there should be production lines just waiting to go for every type of ammunition.
For those on Lemmy who wish to access this post through their home instance
Do this :
Settings >> Blocks >> Block instance : ~lemmy.ml~
There's a few niche communities there
ideally, when we subscribe to a community but we block the instance, the behavior of the software should be that we would see said community ... but in fact, I really don't know what Lemmy software does in those cases.
It isn't. His reaction of banning me for saying something factual that he doesn't like might qualify as an extremely mild version, though 😄
Nothing your said was wrong and wtf is McCarthyism even?
McCarthyism was the Second Red Scare philosophy of "everything to the left of hunting the homeless for sport is communism and communism is the most dangerous thing in the history of the world" taught by senator Joe McCarthy and other closet fascists.
It was used as an excuse to hunt down and blacklist anyone they didn't like, whether they were left wing, Jewish, worked in Hollywood or, sweet merciful Anglo Saxon God more than one of the above.
The irony of him invoking that while unfairly punishing me for not following the local groupthink isn't lost on me, though I'm sure it is on him 😄
It's what tankies use to rile fear of political opposition in their groups.
The ironic part is that is exactly how McCarthyism was used back in the cold war.
Their ideals are as outdated as their ability to reason.
Jesus fucking Christ, are we getting the power-trip mods?
Hey if the want to keep their community tiny that's their prerogative lol
yeah,yeah nuke .world i agree (finnaly someone speaking out of being tortured by shit moderators being able to be anonymous as automod)
I want to remind everyone in here that Lemmy is self-hosted and federated. If you want to make your post visible on their server or community, you have to abide by the rules they set even if they or their enforcement may seem arbitrary or stupid. It's their server/community you want to put your stuff on and they do not have a duty to accept it. Lemmy allows you to block those communities or instances or even to create or host your own.
Ah yes the freeze peach argument
No, I'm not appealing to that. Fuck nazis. (I don't actually see how my comment could be interpreted as that since my comment was in response to users complaining about having their content removed from other instances or communities, which if anything would make them the free speechers (I'm not saying that they are))
Lemmy, in contrast to centralized platforms doesn't force you to be restricted to the rulings of a single group of people under threat of being barred from using the entire platform.
My point is, when you are talking on another instance, you are a guest there and it is completely expected for them to kick you out if you don't abide by their house rules or if they don't want you there anymore for whatever reason. While it doesn't mean they shouldn't be criticized for it, the impression I got from the comments on this post is that they think it is some kind attack to a basic human right to remove their comments from a foreign instance and that admins should allow all content your instance allows.
The same can be said about the reactions people from other instances display towards news of some instance defederating from the instance they are on.
Enjoy your "naunced" freeze peach argument
I have no opinion about the particular circumstances of ops ban or anyone else's interaction with lemmy.ml, but posting through a ban just never looks good
A whole comment section posting bans looks... worse. It looks worse.
What do you mean by posting through a ban?
posting through a ban just never looks good
It's not like I'm evading the ban by posting there with another account or anything.
Just letting off steam about idiots in a community meant for, amongst other things, exactly that 🤷
Did you want me to leave Lemmy entirely for 3 days just because one idiot tankie called my common sense reply McCarthyism?
I don't mean ban evasion, I mean posting about it on another instance
It just looks a lot like posting about a break up. Usually you get only half the story and the other person is made out to be crazy
Well in this case it's clearly the whole story and the other person clearly IS a deranged tankie, so there's that 🤷
🤷
I'm still undecided as to who is more irritating to deal with... the tankies over in .ml or the liberals over here.
It's a tough competition for sure lol. I'd say that the tankies edge it, but woe betide anyone criticizing Biden for anything on .world.
"I don't think that knowingly supplying the bombs used to commit genocide is great"
"Oh yeah? Well, TRUMP!"
You said that germanys Nazi problem doesn’t have to do with west Germany never denazifying and that west Germany was a perfect country because of how pacifist it is and how they remember the holocaust.
You posted a screenshot earlier, but here’s the text of your removed comment, split up into the part you quoted and your comment itself for people who have trouble reading the screenshot:
West Germany was never denazified data that ends before the BIRTH of the majority of Germans
Look, I'm not saying that Germany doesn't have a problem with an increase in far right politics and violence in recent years, but to claim that they never stopped being a Nazi country is some ahistorical tankie edgelord bullshit. Until recently, Germany has been a near-pacifist country almost pathologically careful to "Nie wiederholen, nie vergessen" (never repeat, never forget) and pretending otherwise doesn't accomplish anything except expose your very shallow and underdeveloped understanding of the world.
For people who don’t know 20th century European history, that’s like saying that American racism isn’t related to how half assed reconstruction was except over a shorter timeframe.
The comment you quoted has zero issues, and just paints you as a crazy fucking psycho.
What makes me seem like a crazy fucking psycho there?
I mean most of the Nazi middle leadership just became NATO/Western Germany leadership. But they said they're sorry so it was OK.
worldnews at .ml is a dumpster fire. First community I had to completely scrub from my instance because it was just so toxic from top to bottom.
Edit: Also, will share my last comment there before I self-banned and purged that cesspit from my instance. This is in reply to someone making a fat joke about Kim Jong Un:
Good 'ol ambiguous Rule 1 lol
What you didn't realize is that Kim Jong II is actually the mod
Margaret Cho played the absolute hell out of that role 😆
I tried to give that instance the benefit of the doubt at first, but I just block all lemmy.ml communities when I see them now. There's just too much user and ideology overlap with lemmygrad and hexbear. The worldnews sub was especially bad though. Disinformation & insults everywhere, but they're never removed despite reports, because they're part of their side & agenda. It's basically lemmygrad in disguise.
I don't block them, but I use non-ml communities in preference to ml-based communities. I don't think that I'm currently subscribed to any ml-based communities.
You too, huh!
Fucking mods, this is Reddit all over again.
And fuck off whoever that tells me again to set up my own instance. What I want is popular instance admins and mods to pull out the stick out of their asses, because free speech instances that get defederated at the speed of light are of no use.
And there's no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.
/rant
Seriously though you're making demands that other people work for free in a manner that will benefit you.
Way I see it, either take some of the free lunch that's on offer or make your own.
..except all of them. At least for Android.
Here's the one's I've used with seamless multiaccount functionality: Liftoff (RIP), Jerboa, Thunder, Connect, Boost, and Voyager
Sync too, but I only used it briefly because fuck ads.
Yeah... no. Jerboa has no seamless multiaccount. You can have multiple accounts in Jerboa, but you have to switch from one to another.
I want a client that can be logged on to multiple accounts at once and display a unified feed of all of them. Technically complex, but not impossible.
I was indeed told about Liftoff before, but doesn't seem to work with instances such as lemm.ee
...why would you want that? Sounds like there'd be a lot of overlap and confusion..
If I had to guess, it's that someone wants to keep content that Account 1 deals with separate from content that Account 2 deals with without needing to manually flip back and forth.
Like, someone may not want to associate their identity on !cs_career_questions@programming.dev with their identity on !femdom@lemmynsfw.com, in much the same way that in real life, they (presumably) wouldn't have videos of the latter playing in their office when talking with people about the former.
Yeah, I get the separation thing. That's why I don't get wanting to combine them top Lol.
If I had a clean account that I might sometimes use at work, the LAST thing I'd want would be for it to seamlessly combine with my porn alt or whatever lol
Well, yeah, but I was thinking less about "browsing the Threadiverse in the office", and more "person is at home and wanting all the content at once". Like, the concern is less people who are physically present and more that one wants to keep online relationships separate.
I mean, I dunno. I can understand the idea, at any rate. I've posted (pretty tame) AI-generated pornography when aiming to highlight that Stable Diffusion's regional prompting feature could be used to generate porn, and remember thinking "eh, it might be a good idea to stick this on a separate account", but didn't ultimately care enough. But I can definitely see someone wanting to separate spheres of of their online life. I mean, to greater or lesser extent, people act differently with their parents, their coworkers, their kids, their spouse, etc. It'd be a little odd if things were different online.
It would be the closest to bypass defederation client-side.
Not if the client was properly designed. Content ovelap/duplication could be handled by prioritizing one instance over others, and if two accounts have acces to the same instance, there could be a prompt letting you to choose the account to post from or also an option to prioritize accounts.
It's complex but doable.
I use lemmy.today. The instance policy there is to try to avoid any defederation, and thus far, it has an empty blocklist.
Now, that doesn't mean that there won't also be instances that will defederate with your favorite instance. But, you know, people aren't required to listen. You can only speak to people who want to hear what you want to say. I think that that's probably really the only reasonable way for things to work. I mean, even user-level user blocking and choosing what communities to view is a form of filtering content.
This is the comment and of course toothy banned me for 3 days too.
Just like they did for "sinophobia" when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦
That's like that meme post from a few years ago where it's like (paraphrased):
Person 1: "I can't stand homophobes"
Person 2: How dare you insult Christians like that.
Person 1: I never said "Christians". You jumped on that grenade all by yourself.
Just love the thing where they twist any criticism of the Chinese state into perceived hate for Chinese people, but are so apprehensive when Israel tries to do the same. It's reprehensible.
I got banned for “orientalism”, whatever that is
Orientalism is this stuff.
Idk I personally enjoy seeing terms I learned in grad school being thrown around in a mod log.
Paradigm shifts keep the brain nimble.
This is the comment in question, for what it’s worth
I can't see the whole comment.
Besides which it's a qualitative judgment so unless they did a full on Content Analysis grid on your ass, I'd probably not know what they meant, unless you were doing something really obvious like calling the Chinese "inscrutible".
I still kind of enjoy the novelty of seeing mods censor people for this arcane stuff. I wouldn't want to be on that instance but I quite like visiting it.
I believe it was in reference to a comment about Mao and Stalin
Treating Asian culture or people as a particular stereotype.
Criticizing China in any way.
Ahhh now that adds up
Yeah that's some petty bullshit.
Side note but I really appreciate the mod log feature.
Yeah, me too. It's a great feature!
If only we could see mod names in the modlog..
You can in a link from your profile tab in Voyager, that's were I got the dark mode screenshot from 🙂
Oh, that's cool. But it would be cooler if it was visible in the instances' modlog aswell
I was also banned from worldnews@lemmy.ml and had comments removed for "Re-enforcing neo-liberal cultural hegemony" and "Believes in objectivity in media lmao".
My offense? Saying that a report sourced solely from an eye-witness account via Al-Jazeera regarding another massacre of civilians and aid workers in Gaza needed to be corroborated by further evidence before we regard it as hard fact. The irony is I'm very much pro-Palestinan.
According to the mods, however, that apparently means I have to throw all media literacy out of the window and blindly accept any anti-Israel claims without question.
That community is wild, but the discussion over Gaza over there is fucking crazy. Al Jazeera is one of their more credible sources, you can find articles from websites nobody every heard of, small blogs that state IDF soldiers are eating babies. And that is no exaggeration, that was the last thing I read before I left that community...
Exactly what prompted me to comment, since the blog that sourced Al-Jazeera also added certain details that didn't seem based on anything like actual evidence. Although I admit it wasn't anything near as extreme as the IDF canibalizing babies.
If we must call out pro-Israel propaganda that makes outrageous, unsubstantiated claims like that, we must do the same for pro-Palestinian propaganda, regardless of how we personally feel about the conflict.
I start almost every comment I make on those instances with
to play a bit of reverse psychology with the mods there, who don't touch my comments when the denizens there inevitablely say
And the mods there have their hands tied because banning me would prove their own guys wrong.
It's worked pretty well so far.
This….. is fucking brilliant.
There's such a polarization and paranoia that any comment that's not 100% unwavering support is considered an attack.
The irony of a communist banning someone over "McCarthyism" when what the banned user said was not even close to McCarthyism, making the mod action itself McCarthyism.
They've become the very thing they hate!
Everything I don't like is McCarthyism
I don't like gourd veggies. Is that McCarthyism too?
This engine is McCarthyism.
Oh is this the new "Gaslighting"?
You were suppose to destroy the Sith, not join them
Usually I hop in these threads ready to tell people why they deserve to be banned, but dang. There is nothing wrong, ethically or factually, in what you said.
One of their mods banned me for pointing out that Chiang Kai-Shek genocided the communists in China before the Long March. Sometimes they hurt themselves in their confusion.
It's just a job for them, at the end of the day.
Not saying he should have been banned, but factually it was wrong, the FRG was mostly staffed by "former" Nazis. A lot of Germans saw it that way, see Baader-Meinhof.
Also it's disingenuous to call one of the biggest arms manufacturers who supplied arms to some of the worst regimes, Israel, Sudan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Russia "pacifist".
Sure would be nice if your instance would allow you to rebut op with your view of the situation rather than scrub their comment and ban them. Lemmy needs more content to grow and over active jannies don’t help on that front.
Frankly everything these days is a matter of option. You aren't going to get anywhere by trying to force an issue. A mod should simply let the community correct any factual errors so they are not getting involved.
To be fair discussing politics online was a disaster on day one
Yep the whole thing was, in retrospect, the second wave of denazification. Less so about the actual ideology, but deeper attitudes underpinning it. Things like the Jubelperser incident are completely unthinkable nowadays. The attitude by far isn't dead yet as you can see e.g. when it comes to the reaction to Extinction Rebellion but it's quite a ways from its former harshness and unquestioned acceptance.
And just for the record: The RAF's methods were never in any way popular. A cultish splinter group of a splinter group with very problematic internal dynamics not taking long to be more occupied with employing terrorism to free its members from prison than with any political struggle. Lots of issues with the urban guerilla in general, CCK Philosophy has an essay about it.
Reducing the whole 68 movement in Germany to the RAF would be doing it a great disservice.
I have to say that it's kind of annoying that the Red Army Faction shares an acronym with the Royal Air Force. Every time I see the thing, I do a momentary double-take.
They themselves couldn't even get the name straight, in German publications they used Rote Armee Fraktion, in English Red Army Faction. The distinction between fraction and faction is the exact same in German and English (fraction is a mere part of a unified whole, while a faction disagrees with the rest of the whole, to put it simply).
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
CCK Philosophy has an essay about it
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
I have had my comment removed and/or banned from the ml worldnews for "misinformation" for debunking Russian propaganda with sources.
Why do we allow these instances?
Who is "we"?
The lemmy devs run lemmy.ml. They're kind of...out there, politically.
The lead dev, dessalines, has material like:
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html
Dessalines is in the "we need the Soviet Union back and Stalin is awesome" camp. He was using a picture of Stalin as his profile picture for a while.
Like complaining about attacks on LGBT people while supporting Russia and the USSR seems just the most hypocritical thing I can think of. Does he not know Stalin mandated a 5 year minimum forced labor sentence in Siberia for being gay and Russia today is only mildly better for LGBT people.
Frankly, I think that complaining that a government headed by a Jewish guy is anti-semitic is even more bonkers.
That being said, I'm sure that dessalines didn't originate that himself -- that's apparently big in Russia's propaganda.
Lavrov, Russia's foreign minister, rather infamously had a quote shortly after the start of the invasion, when asked about the whole "how anti-Semitic can Ukrainians be if they chose to elect a Jewish president" thing:
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/02/1095926607/lavrov-israel-zelenskyy-hitler
Nazi and fascist have different meanings in Russia. They mean people working against the interests of Russia, it originates from the USSR. For example the gay community was labeled fascist during the soviet occupation here.
* frantically points to Israel *
You know there crazy when they think the left is the far right
TBF the Azov Battalion is a real neo nazi us funded (through Ukraine support) group... So... Not entirely wrong?
Sure. You can find ideologically opposite militias fighting for Ukraine too, though. Zelensky is in charge and he's obviously not a Nazi. He's a Jewish guy who really wants to save Ukraine as it is and is completely willing to go full Western-progressive to do it. Singling Azov out without the context is basically a propaganda technique.
Also, Russia is acting a bit like Nazis from the very highest levels, except a shittier more openly corrupt version.
Yeah I don't disagree that the overall claim by Russia is bullshit, that doesn't take away from the fact they do exist and are outwardly nazi.
Oh, yea, the Ukrain military has a bit of a nazi problem but the time to deal with that is not when you are being invaded. Also the nazi talking point is mostly a red herring anyways since the nazi problem in Russia is magnitudes worse and isn't limited to their military.
So it's technically not wrong but tankies don't really have a problem with nazies, otherwise they wouldn't be defending Russia, they are anti USA and will side with anything that's even close to that side with no regards to any other belief. I'm not a fan of the US either but I'm not going to blindly support anything against it either.
You can ask your own instance admin if they're willing to defederate
All of the .ml instances are absolutely Russian psyops and you can’t change my mind
(I jest… mostly…)
I'm convinced they're US psyops to make communists look like idiots. I don't agree with most of communism, but I can respect people with different views. But the tankies on Lemmy are doing such a hard double dutch rudder on China and Russia they can't be real. Nobody is that stupid, right? And then I remember how many people are going to vote for trump. Yes, the world really is this stupid all around. Idiots are taking over. The stupid people are breeding. Nationalists that feel it's their duty to populate the homeland.
Tankies on lemmy are absolutely that stupid. I argue with them all the time. And like OP, I get posts removed and banned often. Across several accounts.
I choose to believe those tankies are doing the same, and it's just one tankie you're arguing with. In fact all tankies arguments on Lemmy are just at argument between you and other said tankie dude on new accounts.
Damn, that dude types FAST! Reads super fast too, although his reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired 😄
ChatGPTankie
Well, that's the glass-is-half-empty view.
Another way to look at it is that from an evolutionary timeline standpoint, we're a bunch of hairless ground apes quite recently spending most of our time living in caves in groups of maybe 150 at most. We've been, in an evolutionary blink of an eye, propelled rapidly into a horribly-different and rather-confusing environment, and still trying to get by on our cave-dwelling adaptations. And in that context, perhaps we're doing quite well.
-- Future Shock, Alvin Toffler, 1970
You're right that they aren't real communists, that's a mask they wear to spread Kremlin and CCP propaganda.
The idea that they're run by the US government is ridiculous, they're full of hateful anti-Western content.
Yeah, its the stark advocating of minority rights/protection on one hand and the intense jerking off of dictators with the other that breaks my brain with Tankies
I dont know anybody on .ml, lemmygrad or hexbear who supports russia, i really dont know where the lib world people got that strawman from.
Doubt. More than likely just useful idiots.
But they’re not useful at all. Even to the cause. They just make the whole agenda seem mindless and smug.
Babe, wake up; a new .ml wrongthink euphemism dropped
Oh, I got banished from a whole instance on Mastadon for saying that the Apple Safari team looks at every bug request (and they do):
Little fucking Napoleons will ruin social media, not matter what platform.
You sure it wasn't because the admins harbor deep resentment toward both Dutch people and guys named James and you just had the bad fortune to exemplify everything they hate?
First off, …HEY! 🧐
Secondly, this isn’t “Goldmember”. Should I arbitrarily hate other countries for shits and giggles? …And who says I’m even Dutch? Maybe I’m like Kirk and I only work in The Netherlands.
Thirdly, they seem to love to hate on Apple there. I had the comeuppance to suggest Jen Simmons and the Safari team actually read the bug submissions (and she’s recently been on numerous videos, podcasts, and in posts on Mastadon saying so) and pushed back on their emoji-malarky.
On some instances, opinions other than the admins need not apply. Hopefully you’re not suggesting as much, even with the digs at the Dutch (who aren’t that bad, but like many, many other countries, aren’t all good either).
Absolutely not, I didn't mean to imply approval, merely to make fun of bad mods by ascribing bigotry to them 😉
True, but anyone unreasonable enough to be bigoted towards the Dutch probably don't care about such distinctions 🤷
That's the only thing they're right about, though. They shouldn't have banned you for your comment, especially not if it's true, but Apple DOES suck in nearly every way possible 🤷
Yeah, I've noticed lol
For the record, I'm a big fan of the Dutch in general 😄
Belgians I can take or leave, though..except on second thought they make some truly wonderful beer so they can stay 😁😉
If I only hate the Dutch that means all people I hate must be Dutch. Simple as.
All cool on many things, except one:
To which, all I can say is:
Which instance? We should maintain a list of these instances to ensure we don't lose our data due to idiots like them.
@dialup.cafe
https://mastodon.online/@HollandJim/112236465237857213
What was your original comment?
Clearly I’m a bastard.
Being a moderator is the only amount of power these people will ever have, and they like it, and will absolutely abuse it.
It's not just pettiness. They're pushing manipulation.
You guys are getting notifications? I just notice the lack of upvotes after a while posting into the void.
Some of the mods will cite the reason for take-down, which is genuinely nice and appreciated and something I forgot even existed after too much time on Reddit.
Interesting. Reddit does prompt you to give a removal message, or did at one time.
.ml tends to slap "rule 1" on everything, which says don't be a bigot, even if that's obviously not what the comment was about.
[emphasis mine]
Sure about that? From what I’ve seen, anything said in disagreement with the predominant opinion over there (and on hexbear, especially on hexbear) is deemed “bigotry”. They don’t appear to be interested in ingratiating anyone to the cause.
... That's exactly what I said. Or, at least, what I tried to say.
Some of it is actual bigotry, because this is still the internet, but if they just want to shut someone up it's also "rule 1".
Okay, gotcha, I was looking at it from their point of view, which is that everything to them is bigotry, not realizing that that’s what you were saying in the first place. The bad, it is mine.
Nope, it's still rule 1 on .ml specifically. Or are you accusing me of bigotry out of the blue? That would be ironic in this context.
I’m simply quoting lemmy.ml's rule 1 in its entirety. I wrote "4" in error.
Maybe. But I also see a lot of 4chan-esque double speak and "Free Speech" concern trolling that's all the fuck over Reddit constantly without ever getting any kind of take down.
Reddit admins have automated so much of their policy that you're posting in a minefield. You don't know what arcane caveat you're going to trip over that'll get you suspended or banned. But you still find yourself hip deep in the most virulent bigoted, war-mongering, and overtly vile comment threads, because older heads know how to tip toe around the trigger words.
Yeah, both can be true. There's no way they're close checking every comment on the instance, looking at the rate of mod actions versus traffic.
Head over to lemmy.ml and scroll to the mod log link at the bottom if you want to see for yourself. A lot of it is just slightly different views on the same socialist stuff. Like the time I said Dengism was just thinly-veiled capitalism, and got banned.
Its a low-pop, low-activity community. If you're genuinely worried about the evil online leftists, I'd be far more scared of Hexbear than lemmy.ml.
It's literally one of, if not the, original community, and it's the one maintained by Lemmy's developers. It's probably smaller than .world, but dwarfs my instance.
If you try to post again and get a certain error you're banned from the community, then you can check that community's server's mod log (if it's public)
It just silently goes through, but nobody else can see it. I only know it happened because of the modlog. Weirdly enough they got me the first time for mild criticism of Israel, which I did not expect to be an issue on there.
Might be silent removal of posts instead of ban
Nope, it was a two-week ban in the .ml mod log, both times.
I should look at the source code a bit, see how bans are supposed to work. It could be a federation issue of some kind if I'm supposed to be notified.
I was banned for "Rule 4" which, by digging through their rules (which weren't as easy to find as I expected it to be) I learnt that it was "Illegal content". I literally never posted a comment, post or had ANY kind of interaction on lemmy before. THIS would be my first comment.
I had a post made up of almost exclusively links to news sources (to back up a previous claim) removed due to being "uncivil"
Something similar happened to me with a community on hexbear. Never posted but I already had a ban. The mods must have seen a comment or something on a different community on the instance. Some of the mods there are just as think skinned as on ml.
The rules are generally on the sidebar of the community or instance (depending on if you want to know the rules of the community or instance).
Just block the community/instance and move on
checks lemmyverse.net
There also appears to be a world news community on lemmy.world, if that's more people's speed.
!world@lemmy.world
No, even though they don't like the instance, they are required to post in it for whatever reason and then cry when they predictably get modded.
Makes sense!
It's funny to me that they don't admit what they said but want sympathy apparently.
Time for an alternate community
What is lemmy.ml and lemmygrad? I'm just a casual using Voyager
Instances operated by pro-Russian or pro-BRIC individuals/groups that have no interest in dissenting opinion and often spill out into the rest of the fediverse posting anti-western propaganda.
Basically, it's flat Earth theory but for geopolitics. They believe the exact opposite of what everyone else does so they can have a tight-knit community devoted to being smugly superior to the sheeple.
That's a good way of putting it
Hexbear falls under this umbrella, right?
Absolutely. Hexbear seems like the most insular and loud one of all. Lemmy.ml can be fairly normal sometimes, actually, just because it's the OG site and gets a lot of general traffic.
They defederated ages ago.
Does this break the rules of the fediverse?
What rules?
The rules are what each instance operator makes them (outside of breaking laws). It’s up to the other instance operators to defederate from instances that they don’t want direct sharing with for whatever reasons. So if lemmygrad wants to be anti-west, make anti-western posts, comment on current events and insinuate or blame the West for whatever, post trolling comments or fake news, that’s what will happen.
Even breaking laws could fare fine if they're unimportant enough. A child porn instance would have cops breaking down the server room door, but I'm pretty sure there's already piracy-friendly instances, and a shoplifting one can't be far behind.
Burggit.moe does synthetic child porn, stuff like loli/shota material. That's First Amendment-protected in the US (and is apparently legal in the Netherlands, where the server says that it lives), but is illegal in a number of countries in the EU.
lemmy.dbzer0.com was created specifically to do piracy stuff, and is one of the major Threadiverse instances. And db0 himself has contributed a fair bit of software to improving Threadiverse infrastructure:
https://github.com/Fediseer/fediseer
https://github.com/db0/fedi-safety
A drawn loli seems like a victimless crime to me too, TBH. I find it personally gross, but I mind my own business.
Interested to see if this starts shit.
even BRICS are bad now?
I don't believe lemmy.ml's are pro russian, at least not in that way.
It's not as bad as Lemmygrad but most news threads about Russia/China/Ukraine are a total shitshow over there.
"Everyone I Don't Like is
HitlerAn Evil Foreigner"They're something to add to your block list.
How to block? And I'm still a bit confused about instances. How do I know which I joined?
You're on lemmy.world
You can go to https://lemmy.world/settings click the blocks tab up top, and then add instances to block in there, in the box marked "Block instance".
I think lemmy.world has already defederated lemmygrad and hexbear, so you should just need to add lemmy.ml
Thank you!
Thanks. I wanted to create a Lemmy account and this one seemed like the the most generic default one, huge user base, ran by the Lemmy devs, all right surely it's the safest, most non-controversial choice.
Then I see stuff like this.
I just had one removed from news as well. I don't even remember what I said though so I somehow doubt it was something that crazy
Found it in the modlog, not posting it here, but you suggested someone killing themselves was a good thing... Yeah, that's going to get removed.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=144966
From this post:
https://lemmy.world/comment/9274535
Rule 1 - Be civil
More like "Rule 1 - Selective Enforcement"
They give tankie talking points a lot more leeway.
What does lemmy.ml have to do with this !news@lemmy.world comment that got removed?
I was referring to the .world mods too. Lemmy.ml is just more blatant about it.
Lemmy is so fucking bad ass. You get to see exactly why they banned you. I think you can type in anyone's username to see tbe bans.
https://lemmy.world/modlog
Feel free to type in my name, I already got a ban.
Sorry I got a little to hot about Russia out producing the USA in artillery shells this far into the Ukraine war. I feel like we spent trillions on defense, there should be production lines just waiting to go for every type of ammunition.
Capitalists will lynch us the moment it is profitable to do so, why are we putting our safety and national security in thier hands?
I hate when they don't even say what comment was removed, you just have to search for it through your post history and hit edit to view the original.
That's where the modlog comes in very handy! It's even available right on your profile tab in Voyager 😁
I wanted to do this one for a while now.
https://lemmyverse.link/lemmy.world/post/14142948
For those on Lemmy who wish to access this post through their home instance
Do this :
Settings >> Blocks >> Block instance : ~lemmy.ml~
There's a few niche communities there
ideally, when we subscribe to a community but we block the instance, the behavior of the software should be that we would see said community ... but in fact, I really don't know what Lemmy software does in those cases.
I mean, what was your comment, mate?
This one: https://lemmy.world/comment/9266324
How is that McCarthyism?
It isn't. His reaction of banning me for saying something factual that he doesn't like might qualify as an extremely mild version, though 😄
Nothing your said was wrong and wtf is McCarthyism even?
McCarthyism was the Second Red Scare philosophy of "everything to the left of hunting the homeless for sport is communism and communism is the most dangerous thing in the history of the world" taught by senator Joe McCarthy and other closet fascists.
It was used as an excuse to hunt down and blacklist anyone they didn't like, whether they were left wing, Jewish, worked in Hollywood or, sweet merciful Anglo Saxon God more than one of the above.
The irony of him invoking that while unfairly punishing me for not following the local groupthink isn't lost on me, though I'm sure it is on him 😄
It's what tankies use to rile fear of political opposition in their groups.
The ironic part is that is exactly how McCarthyism was used back in the cold war.
Their ideals are as outdated as their ability to reason.
Jesus fucking Christ, are we getting the power-trip mods?
Hey if the want to keep their community tiny that's their prerogative lol
yeah,yeah nuke .world i agree (finnaly someone speaking out of being tortured by shit moderators being able to be anonymous as automod)
I want to remind everyone in here that Lemmy is self-hosted and federated. If you want to make your post visible on their server or community, you have to abide by the rules they set even if they or their enforcement may seem arbitrary or stupid. It's their server/community you want to put your stuff on and they do not have a duty to accept it. Lemmy allows you to block those communities or instances or even to create or host your own.
Ah yes the freeze peach argument
No, I'm not appealing to that. Fuck nazis. (I don't actually see how my comment could be interpreted as that since my comment was in response to users complaining about having their content removed from other instances or communities, which if anything would make them the free speechers (I'm not saying that they are))
Lemmy, in contrast to centralized platforms doesn't force you to be restricted to the rulings of a single group of people under threat of being barred from using the entire platform.
My point is, when you are talking on another instance, you are a guest there and it is completely expected for them to kick you out if you don't abide by their house rules or if they don't want you there anymore for whatever reason. While it doesn't mean they shouldn't be criticized for it, the impression I got from the comments on this post is that they think it is some kind attack to a basic human right to remove their comments from a foreign instance and that admins should allow all content your instance allows.
The same can be said about the reactions people from other instances display towards news of some instance defederating from the instance they are on.
Enjoy your "naunced" freeze peach argument
I have no opinion about the particular circumstances of ops ban or anyone else's interaction with lemmy.ml, but posting through a ban just never looks good
A whole comment section posting bans looks... worse. It looks worse.
What do you mean by posting through a ban?
It's not like I'm evading the ban by posting there with another account or anything.
Just letting off steam about idiots in a community meant for, amongst other things, exactly that 🤷
Did you want me to leave Lemmy entirely for 3 days just because one idiot tankie called my common sense reply McCarthyism?
I don't mean ban evasion, I mean posting about it on another instance
It just looks a lot like posting about a break up. Usually you get only half the story and the other person is made out to be crazy
Well in this case it's clearly the whole story and the other person clearly IS a deranged tankie, so there's that 🤷
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I'm still undecided as to who is more irritating to deal with... the tankies over in .ml or the liberals over here.
It's a tough competition for sure lol. I'd say that the tankies edge it, but woe betide anyone criticizing Biden for anything on .world.
"I don't think that knowingly supplying the bombs used to commit genocide is great"
"Oh yeah? Well, TRUMP!"
You said that germanys Nazi problem doesn’t have to do with west Germany never denazifying and that west Germany was a perfect country because of how pacifist it is and how they remember the holocaust.
You posted a screenshot earlier, but here’s the text of your removed comment, split up into the part you quoted and your comment itself for people who have trouble reading the screenshot:
For people who don’t know 20th century European history, that’s like saying that American racism isn’t related to how half assed reconstruction was except over a shorter timeframe.
The comment you quoted has zero issues, and just paints you as a crazy fucking psycho.
What makes me seem like a crazy fucking psycho there?
I mean most of the Nazi middle leadership just became NATO/Western Germany leadership. But they said they're sorry so it was OK.