All power to the users. And I do mean ALL. Complete control over cellular modems for one. Control over every little bit of hardware in the consumers hands.
That includes warranty promises, that includes schematics, source code for firmware, everything. For all current, past and future devices.
Fuck locked bootloaders.
Yes, even if you try to use the controls we have left, you will discover that they always clip out one little obscure but critical detail that means you can't actually use your device your way.
Example, starting ADB at boot in tcpip 5555 mode when your bootloader is locked
means you can’t actually use your device your way.
Then don't use the device.
(I myself can wait longer than many of their shareholders.)
I don't have the luxury of buying another.
I want legislative actions to make this illegal.
What do you need this device for?
Remotely operated wireless camera
You know something is wrong when Google is one of the most consumer friendly companies.
I respect the sentiment, but most users neither know nor care about that. They want to take their new device out of it's box, power it on, log in to whatever accounts they have, and carry on with their day.
The number of people who actually care about that is very small.
It doesn't matter if they care about this. They are too dumb to do anything about it anyway. They still can get to take advantage of this. Most notable would be that stuff like "bank apps only through play/apple store" would be much harder to pull of.
You're not wrong, but users should then be held accountable if they fuck up their device. For example, if you decide to force companies to allow unlocking of bootloaders, and the user decides to flash something that they shouldn't, and the device bricks, whose fault is it?
Then they can just get it repaired, at a shop that has the flasher to re-flash the device. Cuz it's open source
And pay a shop to do it? Do you realistically think the average person is gonna be willing to do that? I think it's more likely they'll complain to the phone company about their bricked phone.
I also don't know enough, but is a bricked phone "fixable"? If it is, the person could do it themselves. But that's just one example. Other examples include installing unsafe OSes because social media said so. I don't think the average person is tech savvy enough to give them this kind of freedom.
This may be symptomatic of the issue being addressed. Would we be more willing to get the phone repaired if we felt more ownership of it? My hands are tied if the device was designed without repeatability in mind and the manufacturer has no intention of volunteering assistance - so I must complain. In our current system, we don't have many options to choose from. I look forward to your thoughts.
Also I believe 'bricked' is a result of it becoming inoperable. Our devices aren't easily repaired so they will become 'bricked' SOONER than if designed to run unlocked boot systems and OS's. Feeling more ownership of your device may lead you to be more careful with it and only entrust it with reputable technicians.
This very much depends. Are there technical ways to restore this? Something like a jumper to make the flash storage writable. This would be possible with access to the firmware source code. So yeah, they can fix it themselves. Who is responsible? If the device is bricked after this: the company.
Build locked up products? Die.
Build in fuses? Better make those chips accessible by providing the plans to build them, otherwise refund your customers and die. Now everyone can build them, this won't be a monopoly and everyone wins.
But that's terrorism!
I am aware of this narrative. I don't agree.
So you're saying you side with the terrrists!
"I'm on my side."
The users already have a lot of control; many just don't use it.
Can any of you live without Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube for one calendar month? 25 years ago, millions of Americans did, and their lives were hardly the poorer for it. 25 years before that it was over 150 million Americans, including the 12 who walked the Moon.
I've been living without the first two for years now. I could live without youtube if I really needed to, though I do watch a lot of stuff about farming that is really helpful. Most of my youtube watching is educational with a slight smattering of games and entertainment and a tiny bit of news.
The kind of control we are talking about are different. You look at the law, in which I have only little trust, while I look at the ability to manipulate the hardware.
So no, they do not have control over the hardware, they just don't care that much. They do care if they are inconvenienced in any way, say by a service that disallows some parts that were previously offered. They don't understand and don't care, but they do win from some more control over their stuff.
I already live without any of the services you mentioned, I suspect most of Lemmy do. Well, not without YouTube (for me), I guess, but that gets more and more replaced by stuff like peertube.
Millions of Americans would still only occasionally visit those things if they had more options to plan their recreational time. Those options are mostly limited by less free time available while also having less money available. In that regard, and mostly limited to that regard, was then better than now.
Let me tell you about the Nordic model
Repubtard: HEY THAT'S SOCIALISM!!!
Except Scandinavians have more freedom, and better free market than USA.
Repubtard: BUT IT'S SOCIALISM!!!
Ehrm, they also have better freedom of speech.
Repubtard: WHAT? ARE YOU A FUCKING COMMIE?
Actually they also rank way higher on democracy.
Repubtard: WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
I don't, but wouldn't it be nice if everybody had healthcare, free education and social security so you didn't have to fear to starve if you got ill and lost yopur job?
Repubtard: HEY THAT'S SOCIALISM!!!
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Ugh, my elderly neighbor was going on about how Harris was going to take away this and that, most of which I’d never heard her say or even read about her plans doing, and I said, “where did you hear that? It was Fox News wasn’t it?” He replied with, “well, what news do you watch?” I said, “it sure isn’t Fox where they lie constantly. Harris hasn’t said any of that crap … you need to get your news from multiple sources.”
We’d be a heck of a lot better off if the news agencies were held accountable for telling lies and making up stories. Yeah, I know it’s a fine line but it’s one I’m willing to walk at this point.
Yes, other countries have that, it's called responsible journalism.
You can't just parrot some source, and claim it's reporting. You need to check your sources.
When they help spread lies, they are part of the problem.
What is your elderly neighbor's view on Republican policies for the elderly compared to the Democrats; and does Fox care more about their elderly viewers half as much as their younger viewers—i.e. the ones who justify more money from advertisers?
In 30 years, Trump will be as cited by Republicans as much as Reagan is today—i.e. rarely if ever—probably less—Reagan at least won twice and in one election he won 49 states—as did Nixon in 1972—and back then, Nixon was about the same age as Harris is now.
Did your elderly neighbour support Ross Perot back in 1992?
a Texan speaks:
Ross Perot [Independent] 1992 Campaign Ad "Snapshot - :60"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naHdnyogJjA
1:02
I wonder if a typical Republican could point out Sweden on a map.
Regulations only exist because Capitalism would consume itself without guardrails.
I wonder if it's consuming itself a bit right now.
Late stage capiyalims, Baybee!
That's why they do regulatory capture to prevent that from happening. It all starts with money being equal to influence. This can temporarily be reset after a big crash of the system but sooner or later they start again.