America's Smartest Man Finds Something Interesting

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Is he telling us he considers himself low T? Because it looks like he's believing something he saw on 4chan.

Heโ€™s so dense he doesnโ€™t realize heโ€™s the low T person being described, not the alpha male.

He claims he's autistic and has a breeding fetish so doubtless he thinks he's twice as capable of sorting out truthiness.

"High T alpha males" oh good, they invented a new gender again and it sucks.

I'm a high T male, which is why I started balding at 20 and my balls are the size of grapes

Balding is not related to testosterone, but rather Dihydrogentestosterone (commonly referred to as DHT). Although high testosterone levels often mean high DHT levels as well, it is possible to have high DHT whilst still having low testosterone levels.

The amount of androgen receptors in your scalp is also relevant, some people are just unlucky and have lots of androgen receptors in that area and start balding at a young age despite average DHT levels

All the "high T alpha males" I've ever met are also the least critical thinkers I've ever met.

And none of them have ever backed it up with a blood test

>be me >high T alpha male born to breed and lead >go to doc to confirm I am the most alpha of all >doc says your T levels are through the roof >fuck yeah it is I am a total chad >doc is like nah bruh you got the big C >mfw I only have 6 weeks to live

Yeah I tend to think that anyone who identifies as high t alpha male is actually just the opposite.

They are usually the ones seeking admiration and approval. Meanwhile the free thinkers are just doing our days and caring for our tribes. No approval needed.

"Pele who can't defend themselves physically"

Like Elon, who pulled out of a fight he tried to start with Zuck because he'd get his ass kicked?

I'm still hoping this happens and leads to a WWE style outcome.

Elon has a heart attack on the ring and falls on top of Zuck pinning and smothering him. Zuck is forced to tap and Elon is stretchered out the ring

Heโ€™s posting 4chan screenshots now?

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

We post greentexts and laugh, he posts this and says "interesting observation".

He retweeted it from a page. Be noted those are both very right wing and very gatekeepy about autism (if they're really autistic and not just some weirdo claiming to be such).

As an aneurotypical person, which, according to elon musk, makes me immune to propaganda and means that all my decisions are selfless, i can say that he is a liar who tries to make himself above other people and cares more about his public image than his kids

as someone with autism do NOT let us control everything. You'd get 27,000 cats and a ton of trains without any issues being solved.

I think a ton of trains would actually solve a lot of issues

cats too tbh

Ironically may result in the resurgence of the bee population due to cats murdering the bird population

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A government of autists would come up with optimized solutions to many problems. The issue is that most people are resistant to actually fixing things, so everyone would just get mad.

optimised solutions often create negative secondary effects in other systems - itโ€™s not (always) that people are resistant to fixing things, itโ€™s that when people get attached to an โ€œoptimised solutionโ€ and it comes into contact with the real world, itโ€™s often difficult for them to take valid criticisms that arenโ€™t about the system

It's almost always for a selfish reason though. For instance, health insurance in the U.S. could easily go away if the government combined all of the funding for public healthcare systems. It won't happen because of the for profit healthcare industry.

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Alpha males ain't shit. I'm a Neutrino male. Highest penetration power ๐Ÿ˜ค

Can't even feel anything though. Can you penetrate any harder my guy?

As a beta, I can only penetrate a few millimeters but I can do a lot of damage if swallowed.

The post is starting out with the wrong assumptions so naturally itโ€™s conclusions are wrong, top tier shitpost.

In the old days weโ€™d use this kind of pseudoscience for mischief (you know, trolling), now itโ€™s disinformation spread by useful idiots to upend their democracies.

In the old old days, this was referred to as "religion" and was used to keep "those people" in their "place"...

This is not real, right? RIGHT?

I have some bad yet unsurprising news.

Edit: screenshot for anyone who doesn't have an alt front-end set up.

For anyone that doesn't want to give more to xitter, musk did indeed xerox it.

I checked on Sqawker but it does unfortunately still require an account. I had a dead one from an old project though so it works for me.

I posted this on Mastodon. In case you believe"alpha males" are smart, there is a bodybuilders forum that argued for page after page about how many days there are in a week.

https://youtu.be/eECjjLNAOd4?si=Lf-fcuVnT4IWzKNB

I remember this thread once a year and I love reading it every time

One of the best things Jon Bois has done and heโ€™s done a lot of great stuff

dude we've seen you in swimwear. you look like a barrel on a stick. you can't act like you're prime specimen anymore. fucking troglodyte.

Autist here.

We have a long history opposing societal, including gender, norms. And have deep connections with the early lgbt movements. Many people on the spectrum identify as queer.

Its not a secret that Elon believes he is on the spectrum, and we know he has at least one queer child. We also know that people who are stuck in the closest often channel this through self hate and hate of others who express.

Now that is interesting. โ€œHigh T Malesโ€ on the other hands are a total joke.

A democracy that is only democratic for the strongest, is not a democracy at all.

TLDR; "weak people have to conform to social consensus otherwise they get hurt I guess?"

I, on the other hand, am a big, strong, high T alpha male, that isn't worried about what anyone thinks! I am a free thinker, and I know my opinions are correct because I instantly based this entire opinion on a subjective, anecdotal view of the world that I then extrapolated meaning out of, the best evidence! /s

Yeah, this is a really weird flex. They're taking work from the author of The Mass Psychology of Fascism, which in a general sense can be used to compare Nazism to the current MAGA movement, but saying that those susceptible to it are... Beta males?

If these mental gymnastics were any more complex they would have won gold in France last week.

Adventures in bad sociology, fascism, and gender/neurological chauvinism with our favorite billionaire.

I guess they forgot that people like Martin Luther King Jr. got shot and killed for speaking out against these so called "high T, alpha males."

Being proud of using intimidation tactics is fucking weird and pathetic. Blaming it on garbage pseudo science lowers the bar into degeneracy. THEN turning it into victim blaming...."you're too weak to have anything worthwhile to contribute" is just... wow.

Evolutionary psychology was an interesting hypothesis, but it will never recover from these dipshits utilizing it as the loudest dog whistle in history...used to justify sexism and bigotry. I wish they'd all get in elons rocket and be the first people to land on the sun.

Powerful does not mean the same thing as โ€œhigh T alpha maleโ€.

Studies show that higher testosterone is associated with increased desire for fair competition and fair outcomes.

Anyone who puts a bullet into someone who challenges them is not a high status male. Power is not the same thing as status here.

What an interesting part of my comment to nitpick.

Either you have an issue with the terminology..in which case take the terminology issues to Elon. I sure as fuck didn't invent the terms.

Or you buy into whatever garbage comes out his mouth. In which case don't talk to me.

I'm yet another Autistic person chiming in here to say that Elon is an ass clown

I've met plenty of neurotypicals who defied group think, so this isn't even close to right

You folks know what's up though, you don't need me to tell you anything here. Love you guys, sorry we have a jackass amongst our population, you know how it is

Iโ€™ve met plenty of neurotypicals who defied group think, so this isnโ€™t even close to right

Well, maybe those neurotypicals had a lot of T cells.

Nah man they evolved into a new class of existence, they went from high T to super U cells

Ironic that only a source of "trust me bro, this is how the NPCs work" is all that's needed for Musk to be like: "Derp my filter says it's true! This must be true because it's on 4chan, no sources or further thoughts needed..."

"Well, back to my compound, security guards, and lobbyists that protect me from the majority!"

Musk is a cunt whether he's on the spectrum or not.

He doesn't even know if he's on the spectrum because, at least as far as we know, he hasn't been evaluated. He just decided he has autism because he thinks it lets him get away with doing atrocious shit. As if autism made you an asshole.

Funny thing about that, I once did some investigation on the page he reposted it from, and they seem to be very against self-diagnosis, and put a great emphasis on the suffering of autistic people.

I hope someone simply linked a wiki definition of the word oligarchy, because that would literally be what this is. One in-group that practices democracy amongst themselves but excludes the rest from political power.

"Critical thinking skills only count if they're MY critical thinking skills" do they not see the irony?

There is a baseline assumption that "logical thinking" means everyone reaches the same conclusions.

It largely depends on what lense you parse your logic through, if its the lense of accumulating wealth and power you will almost always reach the same conclusion, the same if you use dialectical Materialism you will almost always reach yhe same conclusion. In the first instance you wont be able to understand how others can't see the truths that are burning into your retinas, while in the latter truth you will understand exactly why they avoid the rubric of logic which brings makes their lifestyle unable to accept they are everythig wrong with the world and dragging us int a greenhouse heat death in the pursuit of profit.

the same if you use dialectical Materialism you will almost always reach yhe same conclusion

Material and historical conditions vary widely. Dialectical Materialism exists to synthesize solutions to a variety of contradictions. Stalin, Mao, and Tito reached some very different conclusions, despite growing up during the same international conflagration. Subsequent leftist revolutionaries - from Che to Chavez, had their own takes on the best path forward. A lot of leftist infighting can be attributed to these differences in baseline material condition.

A relatively wealthy leftist living in the imperial core is going to have this sense of living in a post-scarcity world with a relatively liberal social order, while a Philippian labor organizer is going to be struggling just to survive while the state's brutal police forces actively hunt them. Chinese communists and Vietnamese communists have a very acrimonious history together and are easily pitted against one another by European industrialists. And coalition building between northern Indian communist farmers and the Kashmiri neighbors who they are in economic competition with is extremely difficult.

While you can always talk about the straight hyper-moral correct positions, they don't always lend themselves to the physical labor involved in building local movements or the historical biases native to your region.

One big take away of dialectical materialism is that outcomes aren't clear and conclusions aren't certain. You always need to try things, anticipate failure, and move forward from there. You can't trap yourself in rigid ideology or you'll find that ideology used against you as soon as capitalist leadership can adopt that rhetoric.

This is the Overton Window, the window of acceptable topics for public discourse, and it's unrelated to testosterone (I know, surprising /s).

A misaligned Overton Window (like a slow response to an impending disaster) is hard to counteract because the experts dealing with the topic may lose their credibility by trying to push against the window.

But I have heard the theory that the evolutionary reason for autism may be to counteract this effect. A small amount of genuine vocal concern could encourage others to speak out and break the tension surrounding the topic.

This vocal concern is not however gonna come from the evershifting lies of the X and 4chan echo chambers.

People who work together can't really do democracy. The only true democracy is the one where a small number of people order everyone around without the input of most people. Because that's what democracy means.

I'm autistic and I've never heard the term 'aneurotypical' before...

Neurotypical exists. Neurodivergent is the more "leftist" or scientific term for what they mean.

Guess "divergent" is to edgy for today's people.

Or they just don't want to be reminded of a terrible movie.

Neurotypical is a more broad term, and covers things like ADHD, bipolar, DID, etc.

So what i'm taking from his word salad is that combat abilities may possibly be a hidden asd perk.

I mean, we do tend to be biters...

Another use for the Killer T cells, other than fighting cancer?

With how much he whines about this shit I guarantee he takes tes and feels insecure about it

The funny part is that the conservatives are the ones who are, by nature, authoritarian followers.

That's like asking the tallest dwarf to reach the top shelf

Why is nobody finding the โ€œAutist Autocracyโ€ interesting as well?!

This is obviously highly suspicious, but

The amount of people parroting just whatever is currently in without critically questioning it (or even being open to question it) (looking at you, fascists (maga) and tankies (pro-putin /pro-hamas)) is too high

I don't know what makes a person lose interest in politics and just parrot whatever the others parrot, but I'm highly suspicious that T is it. I think that part is just a lie in Elon's interest to spread.

BTW I just assumed that T is testosterone

tankies (pro-putin /pro-hamas)

Man, one of these is absolutely not like the other.

That's exactly what I mean!

Hamas has literaly made it their goal to textbook-definition genocide all Israelis.

Anyone critically thinking about this for even just 10 seconds would realize that Hamas is just as bad if not worse than Nettanyahu

But no, parroting the current political trend of "poor suppressed Hamas was forced to kill all those civillians"

Tell me, why do you support Hamas and not the UN special rapporteur for Palestine?

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-palestine

Or any other organization not advocating for terrorism or at least not advocating for genocide?

It's because that's what everyone else does, not because you think that's what's right to do

At least I hope you didn't make a conscious decision to support a terror organization wanting to genocide an entire Nation

>Isreali flag

>"Maybe the fascist propaganda has a point!"

Checks out.

Exactly what I mean

You see my flag and automatically discard my opinion, because that's the trendy thing to do

Listening to what I have to say and thinking critically? No m

I thought critically about the issue and came to the conclusion that genocide and apartheid are bad and that fascism is wrong. Not my fault if enough other people reach the same conclusion for it to be trendy.

no, you did not think critically about this Issue.

Because this Issue never was about genocide or apartheid or fascism. You thought about something entirely else.

You thought that "he has a Flag I don't like, so I will discard his opinion on any matter"

Hardly critical or even smart thinking, is it?

It's kind of impressive how many wrong things you just said.

First, it is valid to disregard someone's opinions based on their other political views. If you had a swastika in your username, should I ignore that and listen earnestly to everything you say? Of course not.

Second, this is about fascism because the quoted text in OP is fascist propaganda. What they're describing is the idea of the ubermensch, of certain people being inherently superior and genetically predisposed to rule over others.

Third, you're not a mind reader. You're incorrectly assuming that you know my thought process. I did not think, "This person has an Israeli flag, therefore they must be wrong," I thought, "This person is telling people to look for a point in what is very clearly fascist propaganda, hey, look at that, they also have a fascist flag in their username, I guess it makes sense that they'd do that."

So no, I didn't write off your opinion because of your support of a fascist regime, though if I had it would've been valid. I simply thought critically about two different behaviors you did and noticed that they both display sympathy towards fascism, which I found interesting.

"Noooooo it's not critical thinking unless you agree with meeee!"

This fuckin guy.

Israel is an apartheid state engaging in genocide.