Just FYI, Tildes is run by one (1) dude with a full time job and a family. From what I read, the guy refers to himself as the God of Tildes or something to that effect which I think tells you everything you need to know about how it's managed.
Don't expect it to ever reach the popularity or capacity of Lemmy or Reddit.
I read that this was stated entirely as a joke, and I read that 2 months ago in the middle of people looking for pathetic excuses to not stop using reddit.
I thought Lemmy would have stopped propagating it without a source.
I thought Lemmy would have stopped propagating it without a source.
You must not be familiar with people then.
Isn't Tildes the site responsible for the creation of Beehaw? As in a bunch of users had a disagreement with the admin and decided they would all leave Tildes and start their own place (with blackjack and hookers), eventually settling on Lemmy for the platform?
Their goal is not to be a Reddit alternative or to replace the fediverse. Maybe in the long run it will have a larger user base, but for now they want to remain on the smaller size. Which is fine, there is room for multiple websites. It’s a good thing everyone isn’t located in one source. Things can be across lemmy, mastodon, Kbin, tildes, squabbles, etc.
Being part of the fediverse is important to ever be able to challenge mega corporate social sites like Reddit, Twitter
Is it even part of the Fediverse?
It's not a federated platform.
The only federated Reddit alternatives are Lemmy and Kbin as far as I know. Would be cool if more implemented ActivityPub
I think it was a good alternative, but it not being federated nor able to create communities makes it a bit lame. I really liked it, but it's hard to find interesting use for it when it doesn't let you have the spaces or topics that you want to cover other than the already defined ones.
Yeah the lack of federation is a deal breaker for me. Nothing stopping it from going the way of reddit.
If you use a private website for your social media we just loop back to where we are right now in a few years. Even if it seems great now there will eventually be enshittification.
When someone asks me if I'm on facebook, I can say I'm on The Federation, has a nice ring to it
Good tip, sounds better than Fediverse to be honest.
It is a shame that this is now a reason on the table to avoid sites like this.
I don't care if a SM service is federated, switching to another isn't a big deal. I switched to Lemmy when I got annoyed at Reddit, and I just spent an hour or so shopping around for communities and was basically done with the move.
On Reddit, I would delete and recreate my account every year or two for privacy, and that was more effort than switching to Lemmy.
I'm sticking with Lemmy because it feels like Reddit but without a lot of the noise. The noise will come, and there's a decent chance I'll bail when it does, it just depends what kind of noise it is. I don't link my accounts with other federated services because of privacy reasons.
I'm actually thinking about building a lemmy alternative, and it will likely not be part of the fediverse. Maybe I'll build a bridge at some point, but I really don't see much value in ActivityPub. I'm more interested in decentralized services where the majority of content is stored and served by the device used to access the service (i.e. a handful of gateways to facilitate connections, and that's it). With that kind of setup, federation with other services isn't very important, since authentication can be separated from the service itself so you get the benefits of "one account everywhere" without actually needing services to communicate.
Regardless, Lemmy solves my need for aggregated news and community discussion that Reddit did, and until that changes, I don't plan on leaving.
Really hard to care about a niche social network like this if it isn’t federated, honestly. Far as I’m concerned it could go the exact same way as Hacker News or Reddit.
What happened to Hacker News? It doesn't appear to have changed, though I haven't used it in years. It was always a bit too techbro for me.
Same opinion I have of it, too techbro. Easier to avoid those circles on a federated site.
It’s literally the tech bro news site, though, by design. This criticism is ridiculous. YCombinator is the organization that funds so many Silicon Valley tech dreams.
It's not a criticism. It just wasn't to my taste.
Its still alive and well. Its generally less memey and focuses on a higher quality of discourse. Its a different environment that can still be fun but its definitely brainier. Nothing wrong with engaging intelligent people, it makes you smarter.
Any more info on what is meant by the Hacker News comment?
Some people (granted, I remember reading this on Reddit) consider Hacker News to be full of right wing chuds. I personally just found it to be pretty full of techbros and programmers who were weirdly up themselves the last few times I tried to use it. r/programmingcirclejerk was basically all Hacker News comments lol
I like Hacker News for discussion about bleeding edge tech, but that's about it. I don't contribute anymore because I don't see much point (plenty of high quality discussion by the time I get there).
There's certainly weird comments, but I understand where they're coming from and can usually tune out the stuff I dislike. Then again, I'm probably politically/philosophically closer to that group than I am to the people here (I consider myself a libertarian paternalist [i.e. the book nudge], so a little left of the US Libertarian Party). But I spend most of my time here because the topics are more varied and the discussion often feels more authentic.
I like HN for discovering new blogs, but the comments can be really weird and lots of people seemingly only read the headlines.
I wanna know about this Hacker News comment too. What do you mean?
Replacement to Lemmy if Lemmy ever paywall the API
That's the equivalence of saying if W3C added a pay wall to http. It can't be done.
Another great alternative to Reddit. It's also a non-profit.
One of the many lemmy-like federated sites; I wonder if it lets you sign in with accounts hosted on the lemmy instances since those sites are federated with tildes. Apple mail lets you sign in with both outlook and gmail, and as I understand it, certain apps for Mastodon let you view Lemmy posts (I use Ice Cubes which does) since most of its instances are fedded with us but with a lot less functionality since this site doesn’t let you repost like mastodon does and mastodon only lets you upvote things
Edit: Apparently it’s not federated. Guess there’s nothing stopping it from just being another Hivemind-That-Must-Not-Be-Named in training.
Cool! Don't care! Fuck Tildes. And I'm a longtime RIF user and Tildes alpha user. (And it's still in alpha, years later...) It's a weird ass place over there. Not too keen on their "private club" theme centered around the "God of Tildes" either.
While I prefer Lemmy more, I'm enjoying my time there.
Can you cite any examples of weird behavior centered around its admin? I don't read Tildes enough to have noticed it, I guess.
I’m also a Tildes alpha user, and while I don’t go there very often, I’m pretty surprised to see all this hate. Never had any issues with the site operator myself, nor have I heard about any issues. Can you elaborate?
I went and looked at tildes as a result of this, and it seems aggressively dead. Like, the fediverse is pretty dead and tildes makes it look positively thriving in comparison. Yeesh.
It's been invite-only for a long while, so they can manage the userbase easier. I imagine that, plus the lack of support for visual content makes it challenging for engagement.
I used to be on there. It's boring as fuck. Anything remotely fun is beneath them.
lack of support for visual content
That sounds amazing
What are you talking about, Lemmy is great and Matrix is absolutely thriving for things I care about.
Sure, Lemmy doesn't have 300M users or whatever Reddit has, but that doesn't mean it's dead, it just means it's small. Valuable discussion happens here, and it seems to be improving.
No shit you think it's fine, you're a techy linux weirdo. Good luck discussing like, musicals or tabletop roleplaying games or homemade moonshine or anything in that general vicinity of "niche" on here.
It's small enough to literally have zero posts of a variety of topics, and that number isn't improving. Get outside of your own circle every once in a while.
Well yeah, you are probably going though Reddit withdrawal. Comparing anything to Reddit and it'll seem dead.
techy linux weirdo
Get outside of your own circle every once in a while
Not a fan of your incendiary language and provacatory flaming attempts, but pretty on-brand for refugees who misses Reddit like an ex. I mean, Reddit is still around and I'm sure they'll take you back, just apologize and use the Official App™!
You're an idiot. Also a techy linux weirdo, so I'm not surprised. Did you know other people have hobbies that do not involve Linux, and would like to be able to discuss them without someone like you bending themselves into a pretzel over how the Fediverse has no room for filthy casuals who don't know what FOSS stands for. Gatekeep harder! This will surely save the fediverse from normies.
Relax man lol. It sounds like you've been through some shit on the Fediverse, but it has nothing to do with me. Project your anger elsewhere.
And I wish I'm a Linux techie so I can wipe my lonely tears away every night with cold hard cash.
Yes, the variety is certainly an issue. I do miss certain communities on Reddit.
It's not to the point where I'd recommend it to my wife (she's the opposite of a techy Linux weirdo), but it works for what I wanted Reddit for, which was tech news aggregation and a place to discuss games.
Maybe I'll get around to trying to start some of the other niche communities I miss.
That said, you would probably have luck discussing tabletop gaming on one of the gaming communities here. I personally don't play any (I've played one DND campaign and decided it wasn't for me, open to trying again though), but I have coworkers who do, so maybe that'll change.
That said, here are two that I really like here that I was surprised to find here that aren't Linux or tech related:
But relatively niche things like musicals aren't really a thing here, though I never felt much of a need to look for stuff like that. When I want to watch a play or musical, I generally look for expert reviews.
I do miss some subreddits for recommendations (especially "Buy it for Life" and related purchasing communities), but that's usually a read-only thing for me so I just check back on Reddit as needed.
40-something sysadmins love both bicycles and video games, so I'm really not surprised. All of those "read-only" bits aren't here and they aren't moving, and nobody's making them because the moderation tools are awful. Kbin doesn't even have an API.
When I want to watch a play or musical, I generally look for expert reviews.
I generally look for the opinions of like, actual human beings with no skin in the game. Reviewers gotta say what they need to say to pay their bills. Reddit was great for stuff like that, or the semi-official subreddits of specific obscure headphone companies, vinyl record swapping, local-town-community type subreddits... Stuff this place seems like it will literally never have. It's a shame.
Yup, I definitely used Reddit for the things you mentioned, except media like plays and movies (but strangely not games) where I still find value from professional critics.
And I'm not a 40-something sysadmin, I'm a 30-something software engineer (quite different), and I'm very much not interested in high end cycling gear (it's transportation and exercise for me, not status and social connection). That community has a good mixture of both. Basically, it's a mix of /r/bicycles, /r/cycling, and /r/bikecommuting, and is precisely what I wanted.
I do hope that mod tools get better. If I knew my way around the Reddit tools, I'd help build it, but I have very little idea if what's wanted or needed.
Tildes is elitist. They don't want the unwashed masses on their manicured lawn.
I think that's an strong statement and overreaction on your part, but to that point mass adoption isn't always a good thing.
I find that the content on Tildes are generally more respectful, thoughtful and higher quality. Much better signal to noise ratio. Lemmy does have quality stuff but there is also a lot more low quality / low effort content to wade through. Just look at the state of Showerthoughts / AskLemmy if you are looking for examples.
You just described elitism.
But is it though? By definition moderation and adminstration means a certain set of standard and rules to keep the community / site runs well. Tildes simply has their own set of standards that so far I think is working well.
Lemmy has mods too and there are plenty of powertripping drama. Does that make Lemmy elitist? Or less so simply because it allows shitposts and memes?
It's a bit too positive to encompass all that is elitism.
And the best part about Lemmy/Reddit is that I can look at that low effort content if I want (it's a fun time waster) and ignore it if I don't (I don't sub to any large communities).
With Tildes, there's fewer people so I have less to choose from.
And that's totally fine. I have both and use both on a daily basis.
I just find it strange that people shitting on Tildes despite that it's overall a healthy and well run community. We should really be glad that other communities are coming up, they are not mutually exclusive after all.
Absolutely! I just find Lemmy is more interesting to me than Tildes. I'm glad both exist, and I'm glad RIF supports both. Maybe I'll give it another shot at some point.
The real issue with Reddit is a lack of real competition. Ideally, there would be several similar services and people would pick and choose between them. That way, if one goes down or otherwise becomes less attractive, there's a backup to flock to that already has the capacity to take on those new users.
I'm glad RIF supports both
Does it? Last I heard, the dev had no intention of supporting Lemmy or Kbin any time soon.
I'm talking about Tildes and Reddit, though I'm not sure if they still have an option for supporting Reddit with the increased API costs.
Whenever I go over there it always feels like they just like to listen to themselves talk. :(
That's exactly how I feel about Twitter and Facebook, so I avoid all of that. Reddit was great because there wasn't really any benefit to getting "popular" on the platform, and Lemmy is scratching that itch for me as well.
I haven't actually looked at Tildes seriously because when I first heard about it years ago, it just didn't have much content and was invite only, so I bailed.
Lemmy is good enough for me, so I'm here. I could probably go through the effort of getting an account at Tildes and Lobsters, but that's effort I should be spending not being on SM, so I just don't bother. I go to SM to escape, and any barriers just remind me I should be doing something more productive.
Reddit was great because there wasn't really any benefit to getting "popular" on the platform
Strongly disagree. The whole Karma / award / Gold system combined with algorithms ensures a certain type of posts are favored, and comments / discourse of certain type gets upvotes and visibility. There is a pattern under the most popular Reddit posts and comments and it's not hard to see.
Lemmy has sort of a half-hearted voting system which I feel is actually beneficial to the experience and the fact there is no algorithm messing about is another big plus.
Sure, it favors types of posts, but not specific users. It still led to karma whoring having a certain value, but overall it seemed to have fewer of the problems of sites like Twitter and Facebook where followers matter. I'd rather have higher quality/popular content float to the top than popular contributors.
It certainly wasn't perfect and I never claimed it was, but it was way better (for me) than most other social networks because people seemed a lot more genuine, especially on smaller subs (e.g. anything under 1M subs or so, preferably 50-100k).
And yeah, so far Lemmy's solution seems to work well, and I guess we'll see if the continues as it grows.
I agree about smaller subs, those are gold.
Sadly tildes is invite only it seems.
From what I can recall, you aren't missing much. The power hungry admins are intense there.
It looks like they have their own "vibe" and rigorously enforce it in their own community. That's fine, it's their service after all. Feels a bit strange to turn away potential new users when people are looking for viable alternatives
I don't think Tildes is turning anyone away, not sure where that narrative comes from. Anyone can request an invite from the owner themselves.They are just not looking for explosive growth like some of the other services are.
In fact I think the invite system is an effective way to keep the boys away as the free-for-all signups are easier to game.
They aren't bashful anywhere
Sadly tildes is invite only it seems.
People parrot this as if getting a Tildes invite is like getting invited to join the Freemasons or something like that—it's not that hard to get an invite.
And for those who are just going to lurk, you don't even need to register to view everything.
But if you're trying to be a Reddit competitor getting an invite is sabotaging your mission. I've been on Reddit for 10+ years and I'm actively looking for a replacement, but I'm not going to search for someone that can send me an invite to a new social media site
ok, but Tildes isn't setting itself up as a Reddit competitor, like, its goal isn't to get people to move away from Reddit. It's just its own thing which happens to have some similarities to Reddit but with a bunch of differences too.
Sounds like the perfect recipe to become like the next Google+ though
Yeah, but just asking for one is usually enough. It isn't difficult to get, just enough to totally prevent bots or massive multiple accounts.
Afaik you just email him and he will give you one it is not like they are overwhelmed with people.
Received an invite after a week.
It isn't bad of a turnaround time, really.
I have 5 invites I can give out, PM me if you're interested!
I would love one if they're still available
I would love one please if you still have some!
Can't seem to figure out how to PM you, so here you go, hope nobody steals it out from under you. :( I have 3 left to give after this one:
If you haven't received an invite to join Tildes yet, just email invites@tildes.net and ask. I received one 2 weeks after requesting.
I've honestly never heard of Tildes til this post. As far as I can tell since there's no API he's just scraping html which is not ideal, but still it's worth checking out. I love that developers are still determined to make 3rd party apps.
I wanted to check the code to see if hes actually mad enough to do it aaaand it's closed source
If you know some Java, you may try to look into it with Jadx. It's a Java decompiler with Android support, and can also export code an Android Studio project if you don't like the built-in code viewer. It's on GitHub.
That seems like a pretty bad platform to develop an app for then lol at least APIs try to maintain backwards-compatibility (and give you only the data you need in an easier format), I can't imagine that being sustainable long-term.
I wonder why he went over that over Lemmy.
Talklittle themself has said that it's actually because they were already working on a tildes app before the reddit API changed. Tildes was different enough from reddit that they felt comfortable investing the time. Then 3rd party apps got booted and everyone started moving over, and at that point it was easier to keep working on the same tildes app than to start anything new.
They are on the fediverse as well, so hopefully with time they may decide to make something for Lemmy as well
Huh thanks for the explanation I just replied someone else about not having a clue why dev decided to go that route haha.
Probably because when people were suggesting Reddit alternatives a TON of people showed interest in Tildes. Then, as far as I know, it never took off because it was invite only?
We have all of the larger Android Reddit app developers making Lemmy apps already. I'm pretty happy with Lemmy.
Yeah but I mean he should at least researched how good or active Tildes was?
Or is it more active than Lemmy?
I don't know how to create apps, but IMHO that seems to involve a lot of time and research, even if you have a full baked one for other service, so I wouldn't rush launching it into a "x" (no Elon shit) alternative?
Well I bet he has his reasons.
EDIT: Nevermind I got a repose with the context about his reasonings:
Was really keen on tildes for a moment when we were going through the exodus stage with Reddit. I wasn't keen on the closed invite system.
I get they want to keep their own community and that's fine, but it's a shame they wanted to limit their growth in a time when people were looking for alternatives
I got my account by reading the FAQ’s and emailing directly.
It seems more of a step to weed out low effort posters which I’m not mad at tbh.
And that's why it's dead. Because what constitutes "low effort" is a discussion to be had, but that place is just the owner's backyard where they kick out anything or anyone they don't like.
Probably limited to keep the infrastructure from getting overwhelmed. It is a one person show after all.
Does that website ban people for fucking cursing?
What the fuck man. Are you shitting me?
No. Fucking. Way.
I'm a long time RIF user myself and as much as it would be great to have a Lemmy version we have so much to choose from it literally doesn't matter at all. You can tweak Connect to basically work similar to RIF if you want.
Please don't hate on the dev or Tildes itself, it serves no purpose at all and we are better than that as a community.
I used rif for free for so many years I better have nothing to say other than "you go girl" or else I'd feel like a real butthole.
I’ve been using the app Surfboard through TestFlight, and it’s really nice!
Honestly just using it in a browser is pretty good too imo
Test flight is tagged with apple id. Anh idea how I can get that.
Edit: invite is on the hyperlink of the above comment.
Thank you! RIF was my go to for years and I'm a fan.
Isn't that the place with the admin with a god complex?
many such cases
Why of all the alternatives to reddit did the rif dev had to go with the shittyest one, i heard that the admins over there are even worse than they where back at reddit. I used riff almost since i started to interact with reddit and it was a beautifull app. Why didnt they go for a lemmy app? Why that horrible place of tildes...? I dont know but its probably safe to blame the beans.
Edit: Lots of Tildes lovers over here, arent yah?
Look if you like the platform then more power to yah but my criticisms come from the moderation of that platform, its very sketchy and ban happy from what i heard, and imho a platform is limited by their moderators, and the jannies in tildes are the type that make you go "reddit moment" .
the shittyest one
Eh, that crown is probably better worn by Squabbles.
I haven’t been to squabble since about a week after it opened. What happened to it?
What's wrong with Squabbles? The UI looks neat and that's about all I know
What’s wrong with Squabbles? The UI looks neat and that’s about all I know
Around the beginning of July (and again in the middle of July), there were a lot of posts on r/redditalternatives promoting Squabbles. I'm not saying it was bots, but they had the odor—all newish users with the same name pattern, something like two diceware words and a four-digit number. E.g., Intrepid-Pangolin-4842.
And the posts had this exaggerated positivity, kind of like that terminal handing out affirmations in Demolition Man.
Then when I tried to use the site and give it a fair shake, I found that it felt like maybe a dozen real people and the rest were ... I dunno, bots again? Lots of one-word or one-sentence replies that didn't seem on topic at all? Very "Markovian Parallax."
The site purports to be influenced by Twitter and Reddit, so maybe that's part of the Twitter influence coming through (re: the shorter replies). I never really used Twitter/X, so I'm not sure.
Also I think there's no NSFW, which seems to be a deal breaker for some.
Nah, Raddle deserves it for the blatant transphobia
Tildes is not a Reddit alternative, it's got its own thing going. talklittle has been a member there for quite some time and so it makes sense. It's not for everyone, but I appreciate it.
I'm curious, how would you characterize it's "thing"? I poked around a little and read a few comment threads. It looks like the social media version of npr lol. Very dry, matter of fact sorta vibe. I may have just picked some bad threads too
Uhh.. Sounds pretty good to me? No constant spam and repeat jokes. What are you looking for?
Maybe not the experience of comunicating to a teacher like im in elementary school or trying to get across to some jerryathic bureocrat? Im exagerating of course but what i mean its that how you describe it sounds sanitaced and restrictive, not fun in my opinion.
If Tildes is elementary school teacher, kbin/Lemmy is the elementary school class.
Both have a place, one has more noice, but also more content and the other less activity, though pretty worthwhile stuff for what it has.
Well, more power to ya for that. But i believe that the folks over at Tildes moderation are the school class trying to pass as a teacher, or more likelly some guy trying to build an echochamber for themselves with a bunch of yes men and that doesnt lead to worthwhile discussion and just to a circlejerk, and if you whant one of those then you are better off listening to relaxing dolphin sounds, asmr or reiki on your favorite media platform since those are more reasuring, make you feel more safe and relaxed and probably would help you sleep better.
Everyone is a mod there
I don't know what you've been talking about there since I can't agree with that experience but get off your high horse if you can with that stick up your ass.
Up yours then asshole. Being all rude just for defending wortless tildes. Why arent you there right now then? Seing as you love it so much than you cant take critisism of it without being rude and atacking me, and why havent you been banned from there if this is how you react to a discusion, by atacking those you are arguing with? Well then just get over it punk.
Dude... Check out your own tone. I get you don't like it and while you didn't personally attack me you're just incredibly rude and no one but those that all ready think like you can agree with your comment.
Dude... you started it with the horse and the stick. Now i cant take you seriously.
You're surely entitled to your opinion but I've been a Tildes user for a short while and have found the place to be lovely. Everyone seems very courteous and respectful, maybe to an extra degree. I've read some posts there that have said only a small number of people have been banned, around the order of a few every time membership opens up. You've and others on this thread have heard differently, though. This is just my one anecdotal experience.
Well if it works for you then thats good news i guess. But there is an anecdote of some very reddit moment a dev had over ther. I cant find the source but it was posted on r/save3rdpartyapps and in r/redditalternatives about a meltdown some dev had over some banned user, check out my profile if you whana read it. You are free to write me off as just making stuff up since i dont have the source.
You hear? I've popped in and out from time to time and haven't noticed such. As it's text and discussion first, it's definitely different vibe though and probably is moderated in that direction too.
I was looking for a story of someone that sayed they got banned by some developer of that platform just because they (the banned person) provided a dumb response, litterally "Adios", to the dev on some meaningless argument that the dev wasnt even involved in in the beggining but involved midly critisicicing the platform or something like that. And whent they posted the story on reddit, the dev (aledgedly but more likelly than not) started using varius accounts calling them a liar and spamming in that particular post, and in the devs main reddit or tildes account they provided evidence that the banned individual was saying racial slurs and things like that, but the banned proved that that wasnt its account, it was someomelses username, and also the fact that that particular dev whent as far as to throw such a fit going as far as to try to disprove the claims of the banned person over such a small and obscure post that i cant even find anymore definetly raises some red flags to me at least. Like i said i cant find it anymore, it was posted on r/save3rdpartyapps and reposted on several subs. And recently i heard that the main dev calls themselves " The god of tildes" so thats another red flag that puts me of that place besides the invite only bs.
Wow. That was a lot of hearsay without any sources.
Ive told you i cant find it anymore. Dont believe if you dont whant to.
I'm going to keep this in the back of my mind going forward. With a grain of salt though since I haven't seen this with my own eyes.
But also from the first step I realized it was just privately owned and moderated platform and with that in mind I'm just putting in what I'm willing to loose. It's not mine, even in the sense that a subreddit community could've been presented to be "mine".
On a sidenote, I'm not feeling too good about kbin/Lemmy ATM. Since there are so many instances I'm seeing many reposts, maybe even back-to-back and I can't but my finger on the moderation standards that are set here (not that I've seen anything vile but just... Idunno it's hard to follow since there are so many admins and I don't know where to look).
Same here with the lemmy thing. But after being a some time on the internet, repost are something i kinda just have to accept as part of online comunities, since whe humans like to repeat shit we like and share it with other humans. Its chaotic, unsanitised, and if you look at it on the bigger picture, extremelly boring and repetitive. And it is true that mass reposting is a tactic used by bad actors to push their agenda in online comunities, and imo it just means that such bad actors have already arived to lemmy, which was just a matter of time if not that they already whhere here. Imo the spam of bs like identity politics and virtue signaling of it its proof of it if anything, and the popular tab of all the instances is starting to look an awful lot like r/all in its worst days with a lot off spam from american politics "communities" (more like circlejerks). And there are more reasons to distrust the fediverse like the cold shoulder hostility between some instances, beehaw, most of the userbase are exredditors and outcasts (but not the good kind), its creators are some edgy tankie larpin kids that couldnt get past their SOVIET MOTHERLAND COMRADE GREAT LEAP FOWARD face and activelly keep pushing it and banning whoever that doesnt play into their larping. But there are lots of reasons to love it, mailny that there is genuine free speech in here and its hard to shit all over it, since if you get banned you cam make another account on another instance and you get really good arguments with people that like to argue instead of just fight, not all of the ofcourse but most. I myself havent been banned from any comunity and if you check out my comment history youll know that im not the most agreable felha in here and like to play devils advocate a lot. Just dont 100% trust what you see on the internet and be aware that there is a bias and jannies are not your friends nor are they here to better the comunity, they are in it for the power fantasy.
He was already working on a Tildes app before Reddit banned 3rd party apps. I expect a Lemmy one will eventually be in the works as well
Heres hopeing
First-mover advantage.
The market is about to be flooded with Lemmy apps, many of which will be based on former reddit apps. And like it or not, most of these apps do ultimately exist to make money.
I feel like TalkLittle had already committed himself to making a Tildes app before it became apparent that the Tildes admins were a bit heavy-handed. I'd have to imagine that if that was known about earlier on, he may have gone with another platform.
I seem to recall him mentioning considering developing a Squabbles app, but I don't remember if I'm confusing TalkLittle with another dev on that one.
Now that you said so talklittle said in the goodbye post of rif that maybe work on a similar platform would beggin. I dont think its happening since nobody can just churn out apps left and right, but it shouldnt be super hard to mod rif into a fediverse app but i dont know since im more of a begginer in app design.
Yeah, I doubt we'll see it happen. Which is a shame, because I would love a fully RIF-cloned Lemmy app. I'd gladly pay for Lemmy Is Fun Golden Platinum all over again if he'd make it lol
Good to hear he's still at it. Wouldn't have blamed him if he took a break from everything after the last few months.
Still not had an invite to check out Tildes so not seen it, but wish him well.
This is great! The road is finally rising with all the alternatives and as a Tildes user, i'm excited to install this, and maybe improve my engagement there.
I haven't stopped using reddit. But starting to use lemmy more on a daily basis as my page starts to show contents that I am interested in. Reddit will be also used along with it until it's demise. Not planning again to move to a centralised system for reddit like experience. Lemmy is the place I am going to settle. I will encourage people to be here. Those other places like squabbles, tildes, discuit etc can go down anytime. There will be atleast some people here in lemmy, atleast the hardcore ones who support alternatives like lemmy. Because it is not in the control of one person or centralised authority.
Reddit will be also used along with it until it’s demise
If people keep using it, it won't die. That's how websites that like work. Stop using reddit.
@narwal— why does Narwal still work to navigate Reddit while the other 3rd party apps don’t?
Narwhal is a Reddit browsing app that will adapt to the new pricing structure by making its users pay for the app. The subscription will cost between $4 and $7, its developer said.
I'm confused about why RIF still works on Reddit. I thought Reddit killed 3rd party apps.
I think if you are not logged in, the app scrapes Reddit instead of using API calls.
Does it? I deleted the app on the day and figured it'd just die. Also curious.
What app are all you former RIF users using here on Lemmy? I'm trying Connect and it's pretty good but I'm wondering if there is something better out there.
Just FYI, Tildes is run by one (1) dude with a full time job and a family. From what I read, the guy refers to himself as the God of Tildes or something to that effect which I think tells you everything you need to know about how it's managed.
Don't expect it to ever reach the popularity or capacity of Lemmy or Reddit.
I read that this was stated entirely as a joke, and I read that 2 months ago in the middle of people looking for pathetic excuses to not stop using reddit.
I thought Lemmy would have stopped propagating it without a source.
You must not be familiar with people then.
Isn't Tildes the site responsible for the creation of Beehaw? As in a bunch of users had a disagreement with the admin and decided they would all leave Tildes and start their own place (with blackjack and hookers), eventually settling on Lemmy for the platform?
Their goal is not to be a Reddit alternative or to replace the fediverse. Maybe in the long run it will have a larger user base, but for now they want to remain on the smaller size. Which is fine, there is room for multiple websites. It’s a good thing everyone isn’t located in one source. Things can be across lemmy, mastodon, Kbin, tildes, squabbles, etc.
Being part of the fediverse is important to ever be able to challenge mega corporate social sites like Reddit, Twitter
Is it even part of the Fediverse?
It's not a federated platform.
The only federated Reddit alternatives are Lemmy and Kbin as far as I know. Would be cool if more implemented ActivityPub
Wtf is tildes?
Another reddit alternative https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/145om2g/a_little_about_tildes/
Looks ok but I don't think its federated
I think it was a good alternative, but it not being federated nor able to create communities makes it a bit lame. I really liked it, but it's hard to find interesting use for it when it doesn't let you have the spaces or topics that you want to cover other than the already defined ones.
Yeah the lack of federation is a deal breaker for me. Nothing stopping it from going the way of reddit.
If you use a private website for your social media we just loop back to where we are right now in a few years. Even if it seems great now there will eventually be enshittification.
When someone asks me if I'm on facebook, I can say I'm on The Federation, has a nice ring to it
Good tip, sounds better than Fediverse to be honest.
It is a shame that this is now a reason on the table to avoid sites like this.
I don't care if a SM service is federated, switching to another isn't a big deal. I switched to Lemmy when I got annoyed at Reddit, and I just spent an hour or so shopping around for communities and was basically done with the move.
On Reddit, I would delete and recreate my account every year or two for privacy, and that was more effort than switching to Lemmy.
I'm sticking with Lemmy because it feels like Reddit but without a lot of the noise. The noise will come, and there's a decent chance I'll bail when it does, it just depends what kind of noise it is. I don't link my accounts with other federated services because of privacy reasons.
I'm actually thinking about building a lemmy alternative, and it will likely not be part of the fediverse. Maybe I'll build a bridge at some point, but I really don't see much value in ActivityPub. I'm more interested in decentralized services where the majority of content is stored and served by the device used to access the service (i.e. a handful of gateways to facilitate connections, and that's it). With that kind of setup, federation with other services isn't very important, since authentication can be separated from the service itself so you get the benefits of "one account everywhere" without actually needing services to communicate.
Regardless, Lemmy solves my need for aggregated news and community discussion that Reddit did, and until that changes, I don't plan on leaving.
Really hard to care about a niche social network like this if it isn’t federated, honestly. Far as I’m concerned it could go the exact same way as Hacker News or Reddit.
What happened to Hacker News? It doesn't appear to have changed, though I haven't used it in years. It was always a bit too techbro for me.
Same opinion I have of it, too techbro. Easier to avoid those circles on a federated site.
It’s literally the tech bro news site, though, by design. This criticism is ridiculous. YCombinator is the organization that funds so many Silicon Valley tech dreams.
It's not a criticism. It just wasn't to my taste.
Its still alive and well. Its generally less memey and focuses on a higher quality of discourse. Its a different environment that can still be fun but its definitely brainier. Nothing wrong with engaging intelligent people, it makes you smarter.
Any more info on what is meant by the Hacker News comment?
Some people (granted, I remember reading this on Reddit) consider Hacker News to be full of right wing chuds. I personally just found it to be pretty full of techbros and programmers who were weirdly up themselves the last few times I tried to use it. r/programmingcirclejerk was basically all Hacker News comments lol
I like Hacker News for discussion about bleeding edge tech, but that's about it. I don't contribute anymore because I don't see much point (plenty of high quality discussion by the time I get there).
There's certainly weird comments, but I understand where they're coming from and can usually tune out the stuff I dislike. Then again, I'm probably politically/philosophically closer to that group than I am to the people here (I consider myself a libertarian paternalist [i.e. the book nudge], so a little left of the US Libertarian Party). But I spend most of my time here because the topics are more varied and the discussion often feels more authentic.
I like HN for discovering new blogs, but the comments can be really weird and lots of people seemingly only read the headlines.
I wanna know about this Hacker News comment too. What do you mean?
Replacement to Lemmy if Lemmy ever paywall the API
That's the equivalence of saying if W3C added a pay wall to http. It can't be done.
I mean, Google's trying their hardest...
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Another great alternative to Reddit. It's also a non-profit.
One of the many lemmy-like federated sites; I wonder if it lets you sign in with accounts hosted on the lemmy instances since those sites are federated with tildes. Apple mail lets you sign in with both outlook and gmail, and as I understand it, certain apps for Mastodon let you view Lemmy posts (I use Ice Cubes which does) since most of its instances are fedded with us but with a lot less functionality since this site doesn’t let you repost like mastodon does and mastodon only lets you upvote things
Edit: Apparently it’s not federated. Guess there’s nothing stopping it from just being another Hivemind-That-Must-Not-Be-Named in training.
Cool! Don't care! Fuck Tildes. And I'm a longtime RIF user and Tildes alpha user. (And it's still in alpha, years later...) It's a weird ass place over there. Not too keen on their "private club" theme centered around the "God of Tildes" either.
While I prefer Lemmy more, I'm enjoying my time there.
Can you cite any examples of weird behavior centered around its admin? I don't read Tildes enough to have noticed it, I guess.
I’m also a Tildes alpha user, and while I don’t go there very often, I’m pretty surprised to see all this hate. Never had any issues with the site operator myself, nor have I heard about any issues. Can you elaborate?
I went and looked at tildes as a result of this, and it seems aggressively dead. Like, the fediverse is pretty dead and tildes makes it look positively thriving in comparison. Yeesh.
It's been invite-only for a long while, so they can manage the userbase easier. I imagine that, plus the lack of support for visual content makes it challenging for engagement.
I used to be on there. It's boring as fuck. Anything remotely fun is beneath them.
That sounds amazing
What are you talking about, Lemmy is great and Matrix is absolutely thriving for things I care about.
Sure, Lemmy doesn't have 300M users or whatever Reddit has, but that doesn't mean it's dead, it just means it's small. Valuable discussion happens here, and it seems to be improving.
No shit you think it's fine, you're a techy linux weirdo. Good luck discussing like, musicals or tabletop roleplaying games or homemade moonshine or anything in that general vicinity of "niche" on here.
It's small enough to literally have zero posts of a variety of topics, and that number isn't improving. Get outside of your own circle every once in a while.
Well yeah, you are probably going though Reddit withdrawal. Comparing anything to Reddit and it'll seem dead.
Not a fan of your incendiary language and provacatory flaming attempts, but pretty on-brand for refugees who misses Reddit like an ex. I mean, Reddit is still around and I'm sure they'll take you back, just apologize and use the Official App™!
You're an idiot. Also a techy linux weirdo, so I'm not surprised. Did you know other people have hobbies that do not involve Linux, and would like to be able to discuss them without someone like you bending themselves into a pretzel over how the Fediverse has no room for filthy casuals who don't know what FOSS stands for. Gatekeep harder! This will surely save the fediverse from normies.
Relax man lol. It sounds like you've been through some shit on the Fediverse, but it has nothing to do with me. Project your anger elsewhere.
And I wish I'm a Linux techie so I can wipe my lonely tears away every night with cold hard cash.
Yes, the variety is certainly an issue. I do miss certain communities on Reddit.
It's not to the point where I'd recommend it to my wife (she's the opposite of a techy Linux weirdo), but it works for what I wanted Reddit for, which was tech news aggregation and a place to discuss games.
Maybe I'll get around to trying to start some of the other niche communities I miss.
That said, you would probably have luck discussing tabletop gaming on one of the gaming communities here. I personally don't play any (I've played one DND campaign and decided it wasn't for me, open to trying again though), but I have coworkers who do, so maybe that'll change.
That said, here are two that I really like here that I was surprised to find here that aren't Linux or tech related:
But relatively niche things like musicals aren't really a thing here, though I never felt much of a need to look for stuff like that. When I want to watch a play or musical, I generally look for expert reviews.
I do miss some subreddits for recommendations (especially "Buy it for Life" and related purchasing communities), but that's usually a read-only thing for me so I just check back on Reddit as needed.
40-something sysadmins love both bicycles and video games, so I'm really not surprised. All of those "read-only" bits aren't here and they aren't moving, and nobody's making them because the moderation tools are awful. Kbin doesn't even have an API.
I generally look for the opinions of like, actual human beings with no skin in the game. Reviewers gotta say what they need to say to pay their bills. Reddit was great for stuff like that, or the semi-official subreddits of specific obscure headphone companies, vinyl record swapping, local-town-community type subreddits... Stuff this place seems like it will literally never have. It's a shame.
Yup, I definitely used Reddit for the things you mentioned, except media like plays and movies (but strangely not games) where I still find value from professional critics.
And I'm not a 40-something sysadmin, I'm a 30-something software engineer (quite different), and I'm very much not interested in high end cycling gear (it's transportation and exercise for me, not status and social connection). That community has a good mixture of both. Basically, it's a mix of /r/bicycles, /r/cycling, and /r/bikecommuting, and is precisely what I wanted.
I do hope that mod tools get better. If I knew my way around the Reddit tools, I'd help build it, but I have very little idea if what's wanted or needed.
Tildes is elitist. They don't want the unwashed masses on their manicured lawn.
I think that's an strong statement and overreaction on your part, but to that point mass adoption isn't always a good thing.
I find that the content on Tildes are generally more respectful, thoughtful and higher quality. Much better signal to noise ratio. Lemmy does have quality stuff but there is also a lot more low quality / low effort content to wade through. Just look at the state of Showerthoughts / AskLemmy if you are looking for examples.
You just described elitism.
But is it though? By definition moderation and adminstration means a certain set of standard and rules to keep the community / site runs well. Tildes simply has their own set of standards that so far I think is working well.
Lemmy has mods too and there are plenty of powertripping drama. Does that make Lemmy elitist? Or less so simply because it allows shitposts and memes?
It's a bit too positive to encompass all that is elitism.
And the best part about Lemmy/Reddit is that I can look at that low effort content if I want (it's a fun time waster) and ignore it if I don't (I don't sub to any large communities).
With Tildes, there's fewer people so I have less to choose from.
And that's totally fine. I have both and use both on a daily basis.
I just find it strange that people shitting on Tildes despite that it's overall a healthy and well run community. We should really be glad that other communities are coming up, they are not mutually exclusive after all.
Absolutely! I just find Lemmy is more interesting to me than Tildes. I'm glad both exist, and I'm glad RIF supports both. Maybe I'll give it another shot at some point.
The real issue with Reddit is a lack of real competition. Ideally, there would be several similar services and people would pick and choose between them. That way, if one goes down or otherwise becomes less attractive, there's a backup to flock to that already has the capacity to take on those new users.
Does it? Last I heard, the dev had no intention of supporting Lemmy or Kbin any time soon.
I'm talking about Tildes and Reddit, though I'm not sure if they still have an option for supporting Reddit with the increased API costs.
Whenever I go over there it always feels like they just like to listen to themselves talk. :(
That's exactly how I feel about Twitter and Facebook, so I avoid all of that. Reddit was great because there wasn't really any benefit to getting "popular" on the platform, and Lemmy is scratching that itch for me as well.
I haven't actually looked at Tildes seriously because when I first heard about it years ago, it just didn't have much content and was invite only, so I bailed.
Lemmy is good enough for me, so I'm here. I could probably go through the effort of getting an account at Tildes and Lobsters, but that's effort I should be spending not being on SM, so I just don't bother. I go to SM to escape, and any barriers just remind me I should be doing something more productive.
Strongly disagree. The whole Karma / award / Gold system combined with algorithms ensures a certain type of posts are favored, and comments / discourse of certain type gets upvotes and visibility. There is a pattern under the most popular Reddit posts and comments and it's not hard to see.
Lemmy has sort of a half-hearted voting system which I feel is actually beneficial to the experience and the fact there is no algorithm messing about is another big plus.
Sure, it favors types of posts, but not specific users. It still led to karma whoring having a certain value, but overall it seemed to have fewer of the problems of sites like Twitter and Facebook where followers matter. I'd rather have higher quality/popular content float to the top than popular contributors.
It certainly wasn't perfect and I never claimed it was, but it was way better (for me) than most other social networks because people seemed a lot more genuine, especially on smaller subs (e.g. anything under 1M subs or so, preferably 50-100k).
And yeah, so far Lemmy's solution seems to work well, and I guess we'll see if the continues as it grows.
I agree about smaller subs, those are gold.
Sadly tildes is invite only it seems.
From what I can recall, you aren't missing much. The power hungry admins are intense there.
It looks like they have their own "vibe" and rigorously enforce it in their own community. That's fine, it's their service after all. Feels a bit strange to turn away potential new users when people are looking for viable alternatives
I don't think Tildes is turning anyone away, not sure where that narrative comes from. Anyone can request an invite from the owner themselves.They are just not looking for explosive growth like some of the other services are.
In fact I think the invite system is an effective way to keep the boys away as the free-for-all signups are easier to game.
They aren't bashful anywhere
People parrot this as if getting a Tildes invite is like getting invited to join the Freemasons or something like that—it's not that hard to get an invite.
And for those who are just going to lurk, you don't even need to register to view everything.
But if you're trying to be a Reddit competitor getting an invite is sabotaging your mission. I've been on Reddit for 10+ years and I'm actively looking for a replacement, but I'm not going to search for someone that can send me an invite to a new social media site
ok, but Tildes isn't setting itself up as a Reddit competitor, like, its goal isn't to get people to move away from Reddit. It's just its own thing which happens to have some similarities to Reddit but with a bunch of differences too.
Sounds like the perfect recipe to become like the next Google+ though
Yeah, but just asking for one is usually enough. It isn't difficult to get, just enough to totally prevent bots or massive multiple accounts.
Afaik you just email him and he will give you one it is not like they are overwhelmed with people.
Received an invite after a week.
It isn't bad of a turnaround time, really.
I have 5 invites I can give out, PM me if you're interested!
I would love one if they're still available
I would love one please if you still have some!
Can't seem to figure out how to PM you, so here you go, hope nobody steals it out from under you. :( I have 3 left to give after this one:
https://tildes.net/register?code=Z9QW4-K3YGR-3W26B
Thank you!
I'd love an invite if you're down to give em!
Can't seem to figure out how to PM you, so here you go, hope nobody steals it out from under you. :( I have 2 left to give after this one:
https://tildes.net/register?code=JA1RL-X1029-9JFGO
I would be happy to receive an invite :)
Sorry! I only had five to give out! If it lets me have more I'll swing back and shoot one over to you!
I’d love an invite too if I’m not too late!
Can't seem to figure out how to PM you, so here you go, hope nobody steals it out from under you. :( This is the last one I can generate!
https://tildes.net/register?code=2955R-TG03J-536UZ
I too, would appreciate an invite if you have one more available! Thank you!
Can't seem to figure out how to PM you, so here you go, hope nobody steals it out from under you. :( I have 1 left to give after this one:
https://tildes.net/register?code=4XCO2-CFDUW-WD1L6
If you haven't received an invite to join Tildes yet, just email invites@tildes.net and ask. I received one 2 weeks after requesting.
I've honestly never heard of Tildes til this post. As far as I can tell since there's no API he's just scraping html which is not ideal, but still it's worth checking out. I love that developers are still determined to make 3rd party apps.
I wanted to check the code to see if hes actually mad enough to do it aaaand it's closed source
If you know some Java, you may try to look into it with Jadx. It's a Java decompiler with Android support, and can also export code an Android Studio project if you don't like the built-in code viewer. It's on GitHub.
That seems like a pretty bad platform to develop an app for then lol at least APIs try to maintain backwards-compatibility (and give you only the data you need in an easier format), I can't imagine that being sustainable long-term.
I wonder why he went over that over Lemmy.
Talklittle themself has said that it's actually because they were already working on a tildes app before the reddit API changed. Tildes was different enough from reddit that they felt comfortable investing the time. Then 3rd party apps got booted and everyone started moving over, and at that point it was easier to keep working on the same tildes app than to start anything new.
They are on the fediverse as well, so hopefully with time they may decide to make something for Lemmy as well
Huh thanks for the explanation I just replied someone else about not having a clue why dev decided to go that route haha.
Probably because when people were suggesting Reddit alternatives a TON of people showed interest in Tildes. Then, as far as I know, it never took off because it was invite only?
We have all of the larger Android Reddit app developers making Lemmy apps already. I'm pretty happy with Lemmy.
Yeah but I mean he should at least researched how good or active Tildes was?
Or is it more active than Lemmy?
I don't know how to create apps, but IMHO that seems to involve a lot of time and research, even if you have a full baked one for other service, so I wouldn't rush launching it into a "x" (no Elon shit) alternative?
Well I bet he has his reasons.
EDIT: Nevermind I got a repose with the context about his reasonings:
https://lemm.ee/comment/1648650
Was really keen on tildes for a moment when we were going through the exodus stage with Reddit. I wasn't keen on the closed invite system.
I get they want to keep their own community and that's fine, but it's a shame they wanted to limit their growth in a time when people were looking for alternatives
I got my account by reading the FAQ’s and emailing directly.
It seems more of a step to weed out low effort posters which I’m not mad at tbh.
And that's why it's dead. Because what constitutes "low effort" is a discussion to be had, but that place is just the owner's backyard where they kick out anything or anyone they don't like.
Probably limited to keep the infrastructure from getting overwhelmed. It is a one person show after all.
Does that website ban people for fucking cursing?
What the fuck man. Are you shitting me?
No. Fucking. Way.
I'm a long time RIF user myself and as much as it would be great to have a Lemmy version we have so much to choose from it literally doesn't matter at all. You can tweak Connect to basically work similar to RIF if you want.
Please don't hate on the dev or Tildes itself, it serves no purpose at all and we are better than that as a community.
I used rif for free for so many years I better have nothing to say other than "you go girl" or else I'd feel like a real butthole.
Is there an ios app too
IOS app is in the making. RIF dev said it should be out in October.
https://tildes.net/\~tildes/18s2/three\_cheers\_for\_tildes\_android\_version\_is\_open\_for\_alpha\_testing\_on\_the\_google\_play\_store
I’ve been using the app Surfboard through TestFlight, and it’s really nice!
Honestly just using it in a browser is pretty good too imo
Test flight is tagged with apple id. Anh idea how I can get that.
Edit: invite is on the hyperlink of the above comment.
Thank you! RIF was my go to for years and I'm a fan.
Isn't that the place with the admin with a god complex?
many such cases
Why of all the alternatives to reddit did the rif dev had to go with the shittyest one, i heard that the admins over there are even worse than they where back at reddit. I used riff almost since i started to interact with reddit and it was a beautifull app. Why didnt they go for a lemmy app? Why that horrible place of tildes...? I dont know but its probably safe to blame the beans.
Edit: Lots of Tildes lovers over here, arent yah? Look if you like the platform then more power to yah but my criticisms come from the moderation of that platform, its very sketchy and ban happy from what i heard, and imho a platform is limited by their moderators, and the jannies in tildes are the type that make you go "reddit moment" .
Eh, that crown is probably better worn by Squabbles.
I haven’t been to squabble since about a week after it opened. What happened to it?
What's wrong with Squabbles? The UI looks neat and that's about all I know
Around the beginning of July (and again in the middle of July), there were a lot of posts on r/redditalternatives promoting Squabbles. I'm not saying it was bots, but they had the odor—all newish users with the same name pattern, something like two diceware words and a four-digit number. E.g., Intrepid-Pangolin-4842.
And the posts had this exaggerated positivity, kind of like that terminal handing out affirmations in Demolition Man.
Then when I tried to use the site and give it a fair shake, I found that it felt like maybe a dozen real people and the rest were ... I dunno, bots again? Lots of one-word or one-sentence replies that didn't seem on topic at all? Very "Markovian Parallax."
The site purports to be influenced by Twitter and Reddit, so maybe that's part of the Twitter influence coming through (re: the shorter replies). I never really used Twitter/X, so I'm not sure.
Also I think there's no NSFW, which seems to be a deal breaker for some.
Nah, Raddle deserves it for the blatant transphobia
Tildes is not a Reddit alternative, it's got its own thing going. talklittle has been a member there for quite some time and so it makes sense. It's not for everyone, but I appreciate it.
I'm curious, how would you characterize it's "thing"? I poked around a little and read a few comment threads. It looks like the social media version of npr lol. Very dry, matter of fact sorta vibe. I may have just picked some bad threads too
Uhh.. Sounds pretty good to me? No constant spam and repeat jokes. What are you looking for?
Maybe not the experience of comunicating to a teacher like im in elementary school or trying to get across to some jerryathic bureocrat? Im exagerating of course but what i mean its that how you describe it sounds sanitaced and restrictive, not fun in my opinion.
If Tildes is elementary school teacher, kbin/Lemmy is the elementary school class.
Both have a place, one has more noice, but also more content and the other less activity, though pretty worthwhile stuff for what it has.
Well, more power to ya for that. But i believe that the folks over at Tildes moderation are the school class trying to pass as a teacher, or more likelly some guy trying to build an echochamber for themselves with a bunch of yes men and that doesnt lead to worthwhile discussion and just to a circlejerk, and if you whant one of those then you are better off listening to relaxing dolphin sounds, asmr or reiki on your favorite media platform since those are more reasuring, make you feel more safe and relaxed and probably would help you sleep better.
Everyone is a mod there
I don't know what you've been talking about there since I can't agree with that experience but get off your high horse if you can with that stick up your ass.
Up yours then asshole. Being all rude just for defending wortless tildes. Why arent you there right now then? Seing as you love it so much than you cant take critisism of it without being rude and atacking me, and why havent you been banned from there if this is how you react to a discusion, by atacking those you are arguing with? Well then just get over it punk.
Dude... Check out your own tone. I get you don't like it and while you didn't personally attack me you're just incredibly rude and no one but those that all ready think like you can agree with your comment.
Dude... you started it with the horse and the stick. Now i cant take you seriously.
Sure thing, that's one way to deflect.
That is a spot on description
You're surely entitled to your opinion but I've been a Tildes user for a short while and have found the place to be lovely. Everyone seems very courteous and respectful, maybe to an extra degree. I've read some posts there that have said only a small number of people have been banned, around the order of a few every time membership opens up. You've and others on this thread have heard differently, though. This is just my one anecdotal experience.
Well if it works for you then thats good news i guess. But there is an anecdote of some very reddit moment a dev had over ther. I cant find the source but it was posted on r/save3rdpartyapps and in r/redditalternatives about a meltdown some dev had over some banned user, check out my profile if you whana read it. You are free to write me off as just making stuff up since i dont have the source.
You hear? I've popped in and out from time to time and haven't noticed such. As it's text and discussion first, it's definitely different vibe though and probably is moderated in that direction too.
I was looking for a story of someone that sayed they got banned by some developer of that platform just because they (the banned person) provided a dumb response, litterally "Adios", to the dev on some meaningless argument that the dev wasnt even involved in in the beggining but involved midly critisicicing the platform or something like that. And whent they posted the story on reddit, the dev (aledgedly but more likelly than not) started using varius accounts calling them a liar and spamming in that particular post, and in the devs main reddit or tildes account they provided evidence that the banned individual was saying racial slurs and things like that, but the banned proved that that wasnt its account, it was someomelses username, and also the fact that that particular dev whent as far as to throw such a fit going as far as to try to disprove the claims of the banned person over such a small and obscure post that i cant even find anymore definetly raises some red flags to me at least. Like i said i cant find it anymore, it was posted on r/save3rdpartyapps and reposted on several subs. And recently i heard that the main dev calls themselves " The god of tildes" so thats another red flag that puts me of that place besides the invite only bs.
Wow. That was a lot of hearsay without any sources.
Ive told you i cant find it anymore. Dont believe if you dont whant to.
I'm going to keep this in the back of my mind going forward. With a grain of salt though since I haven't seen this with my own eyes.
But also from the first step I realized it was just privately owned and moderated platform and with that in mind I'm just putting in what I'm willing to loose. It's not mine, even in the sense that a subreddit community could've been presented to be "mine".
On a sidenote, I'm not feeling too good about kbin/Lemmy ATM. Since there are so many instances I'm seeing many reposts, maybe even back-to-back and I can't but my finger on the moderation standards that are set here (not that I've seen anything vile but just... Idunno it's hard to follow since there are so many admins and I don't know where to look).
Same here with the lemmy thing. But after being a some time on the internet, repost are something i kinda just have to accept as part of online comunities, since whe humans like to repeat shit we like and share it with other humans. Its chaotic, unsanitised, and if you look at it on the bigger picture, extremelly boring and repetitive. And it is true that mass reposting is a tactic used by bad actors to push their agenda in online comunities, and imo it just means that such bad actors have already arived to lemmy, which was just a matter of time if not that they already whhere here. Imo the spam of bs like identity politics and virtue signaling of it its proof of it if anything, and the popular tab of all the instances is starting to look an awful lot like r/all in its worst days with a lot off spam from american politics "communities" (more like circlejerks). And there are more reasons to distrust the fediverse like the cold shoulder hostility between some instances, beehaw, most of the userbase are exredditors and outcasts (but not the good kind), its creators are some edgy tankie larpin kids that couldnt get past their SOVIET MOTHERLAND COMRADE GREAT LEAP FOWARD face and activelly keep pushing it and banning whoever that doesnt play into their larping. But there are lots of reasons to love it, mailny that there is genuine free speech in here and its hard to shit all over it, since if you get banned you cam make another account on another instance and you get really good arguments with people that like to argue instead of just fight, not all of the ofcourse but most. I myself havent been banned from any comunity and if you check out my comment history youll know that im not the most agreable felha in here and like to play devils advocate a lot. Just dont 100% trust what you see on the internet and be aware that there is a bias and jannies are not your friends nor are they here to better the comunity, they are in it for the power fantasy.
He was already working on a Tildes app before Reddit banned 3rd party apps. I expect a Lemmy one will eventually be in the works as well
Heres hopeing
First-mover advantage.
The market is about to be flooded with Lemmy apps, many of which will be based on former reddit apps. And like it or not, most of these apps do ultimately exist to make money.
I feel like TalkLittle had already committed himself to making a Tildes app before it became apparent that the Tildes admins were a bit heavy-handed. I'd have to imagine that if that was known about earlier on, he may have gone with another platform.
I seem to recall him mentioning considering developing a Squabbles app, but I don't remember if I'm confusing TalkLittle with another dev on that one.
Now that you said so talklittle said in the goodbye post of rif that maybe work on a similar platform would beggin. I dont think its happening since nobody can just churn out apps left and right, but it shouldnt be super hard to mod rif into a fediverse app but i dont know since im more of a begginer in app design.
Yeah, I doubt we'll see it happen. Which is a shame, because I would love a fully RIF-cloned Lemmy app. I'd gladly pay for Lemmy Is Fun Golden Platinum all over again if he'd make it lol
Good to hear he's still at it. Wouldn't have blamed him if he took a break from everything after the last few months.
Still not had an invite to check out Tildes so not seen it, but wish him well.
This is great! The road is finally rising with all the alternatives and as a Tildes user, i'm excited to install this, and maybe improve my engagement there.
I haven't stopped using reddit. But starting to use lemmy more on a daily basis as my page starts to show contents that I am interested in. Reddit will be also used along with it until it's demise. Not planning again to move to a centralised system for reddit like experience. Lemmy is the place I am going to settle. I will encourage people to be here. Those other places like squabbles, tildes, discuit etc can go down anytime. There will be atleast some people here in lemmy, atleast the hardcore ones who support alternatives like lemmy. Because it is not in the control of one person or centralised authority.
If people keep using it, it won't die. That's how websites that like work. Stop using reddit.
@narwal— why does Narwal still work to navigate Reddit while the other 3rd party apps don’t?
Narwhal is a Reddit browsing app that will adapt to the new pricing structure by making its users pay for the app. The subscription will cost between $4 and $7, its developer said.
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/feature/Reddit-pricing-API-charge-explained
Thanks.
If you were trying to do a mention, it broke
Lemmy get used to this new app…?
Lol invite only.
No thanks.
You don't really have much choice in the matter if you haven't been invited 😄
Imagine watching reddit becoming so fucked up and going to a platform that's even more controlling and centralized 🙄
I'm confused about why RIF still works on Reddit. I thought Reddit killed 3rd party apps.
I think if you are not logged in, the app scrapes Reddit instead of using API calls.
Does it? I deleted the app on the day and figured it'd just die. Also curious.
What app are all you former RIF users using here on Lemmy? I'm trying Connect and it's pretty good but I'm wondering if there is something better out there.
I'm on Liftoff
Edit: Now I'm on Sync