Trump’s VP pick is a naked authoritarian

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I think you mean "Trump's VP pick is also a naked authoritarian."

I started reading up on him and apparently he said this:

I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful), or that he’s America’s Hitler.

That fact that he thinks Trump could be Hitler and is still prepared to get behind him for his own gain tells me all I need to know about the principles of the man.

My guess is that he's hoping that Trump will kick the bucket while in office and get a free pass without needing to campaign.

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Obligatory that's also what Hitler bloody did. I do not want to see either of these men in power.

He’ll probably shove Trump down the stairs first chance he gets.

So long as he says it's an official act, I don't see a problem with it.

The problem will then be that JD Vance is in the white house.

Trump may be scum that deserves a long fall down a short staircase, but Vance is exactly the sort of threat that we were worried about following Trump up. Mask off, smarter than Trump is, and capable of inheriting his fan base.

I wouldn't be surprised to know he said it like "America's Hitler" wasn't the bad thing it would be.

You're confused because you're reading "Trump could be Hitler" like its a bad thing and not JD Vance's wet dream.

Going from that to running mate means he's clearly a bootlicker and Trump's all about that. If Trump could fill both Pres and VP positions at once he would.

yeah given his past I view him more a sycophant than an authoritarian. I mean I would not be surprised if he liked to be dominated.

I guess for him comparing someone to Hitler is a compliment rather than a warning.

Right? And this is the guy Trump trusts more than anyone else...

He's a kiss ass. JD Vance has used every public speaking opportunity to suck Trump's dick very publicly.

A few years ago, he was shit talking Trump every chance he got.

Turns out, "never Trump" Republicans don't have a political future.

Super excited to see how "Trump is America's Hitler" does with those swing voters.

They're not paying attention to it now; I doubt they'll understand when their neighbors are being rounded up.

Well, given how much the country has been declining, this is high praise.

Interesting. It's possible that he rapes children just like trump does.

Even if he doesn't rape children like trump does, he still completely supports a child rapist.

Naked public dick-sucking? I'm starting to think these folks don't care about family values

I am surpised we can I hear what JD is saying while sucking Trump's dick.

Sike

With the size of Trump's dick. It is possible to understand JD.

He's an Ivy League educated social climber who hobnobbed with Peter Theil and lawmakers before he got famous writing a book where he cosplayed as a poor person so he could tell rich people exactly what they want to hear about poor people

From a quick glance at my résumé, you might think me an older, female version of Vance. I was born in Appalachia in the 1960s and grew up in the small city of Newark, Ohio. When I was 9, my parents divorced. My mom became a single mother of four, with only a high school education and little work experience. Life was tough; the five of us lived on $6,000 a year.

Like Vance, I attended Ohio State University on scholarship, working nights and weekends. I graduated at the top of my class and, again like Vance, attended Yale Law School on a financial-need scholarship. Today, I represent people who’ve been fired illegally from their jobs. And now that I’m running for Congress in Northeast Ohio, I speak often with folks who are trying hard but not making much money.

A self-described conservative, Vance largely concludes that his family and peers are trapped in poverty due to their own poor choices and negative attitudes. But I take great exception when he makes statements such as: “We spend our way into the poorhouse. We buy giant TVs and iPads. Our children wear nice clothes thanks to high-interest credit cards and payday loans. We purchase homes we don’t need, refinance them for more spending money, and declare bankruptcy. . . . Thrift is inimical to our being.”

Who is this “we” of whom he speaks? Vance’s statements don’t describe the family in which I grew up, and they don’t describe the families I meet who are struggling to make it in America today. I know that my family lived on $6,000 per year because as children, we sat down with pen and paper to help find a way for us to live on that amount. My mom couldn’t even qualify for a credit card, much less live on credit. She bought our clothes at discount stores.

Thrift was not inimical to our being; it was the very essence of our being.

With lines like “We choose not to work when we should be looking for jobs,” Vance’s sweeping stereotypes are shark bait for conservative policymakers. They feed into the mythology that the undeserving poor make bad choices and are to blame for their own poverty, so taxpayer money should not be wasted on programs to help lift people out of poverty. Now these inaccurate and dangerous generalizations have been made required college reading.

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I am fucking foaming at the mouth with this shit. Every study, every test, and nearly every fucking holy book shows and says, help the poor. It is worth your while. Their very own messiah was built off of helping the poor and going against norms. Its so incredibly asinine.

Their very own messiah was built off of helping the poor

Whoa! I don't think you're knowledgeable enough about Supply Side Jesus to make such scurrilous accusations. /s

This needs to be FRONT AND CENTER at the VP debate. Trump did this shit with his bullshit fake assistant crap, and this guy did it through this bullshit.

The fact that this guy hates thrift stores tells you all you need to know about him

I mean, in addition to worshipping Hitler

If you're from the Midwest and don't call it THE Ohio State University you've immediately lost my trust. And I didn't even go there.

As someone from Ohio (not near Columbus), I can't stand those assholes. I like the school, but their football fans are intolerable

Fair point. I wonder what the weather is like up there on those high horses

As a Columbus transplant we all hate them. Good university, massive pain in the ass to live near, worst part of town to try to do anything in, fucking football fans…

As an alumni of Ohio University who lives in Columbus my favorite thing to call them is OS-Who

I've lost count of the amount of times I've been asked, "you're from Ohio? Why aren't you an Ohio state fan?"

Anecdotally, every bar fight I've almost been in has been with ohio state fans. One was when Marcus mariotta got hurt in the championship game and the bar I was at erupted in cheers and I called them out for being dick heads. The other was when a guy in an Ohio state shirt approached me and told me I needed to, "get my bitch on a leash" referring to my wife.

I actually enjoy watching them play football, their fans just fucking suck so bad

I accidentally wore a wolverines starter jacket around Columbus for a week one winter while I was on a business trip. Couldn't figure out why the waiters were all so curt with me until one of the locals made a comment on the job site.

In retrospect it's a miracle I didn't get accosted by a season ticket holder.

I’m not from the states, why is the “The” important?

Many states have multiple universities named after them, so you can have university of Pennsylvania and Pennsylvania state university.

Ohio state used to be " the ohio mechanical and agricultural school" when they were founded. They changed their name to "the Ohio state university" when they became a university. They were competing with "Ohio university" to be the main big state school, so the tried to emphasize it with "the" prounced with the long e (thee). It's become a bit of a meme since then. No one really cares but it's a funny thing for them to embrace and everyone else to make fun of.

That’s pretty funny, I never thought there’d be multiple universities using the state’s name!

What if I don’t call it that because it’s THE most annoying part of one of my favorite cities and it’s really fun to piss them off.

Sincerely, A graduate of AN Ohio state university

TLDR: He is pro-January 6th insurrection, pro-Project 2025, wants to overthrow the current government, basically as Trumptard as they get.

Pro-P2025 is an understatement. My man practically wrote the damned thing. People write him off as a simple grifter and climber, but this man's hate is pure.

He's the guy who, when asked about abortion ban exceptions for rape and increase, said "Two wrongs don't make a right."

From the NYT : "Shortly after J.D. Vance’s selection was announced, his hometown, Middletown, Ohio, was pounded by a strong storm with hail the size of golf balls that cleared parks and splash pads as people fled for cover. "

God:

WTF people. How many signs do you fucking need.

pegs little Jimmy betwixt the eyes with a golf ball sized peice of hail

God could end this any time she wants in a thousand different ways.

Looks at climate change.

I think she already chose the method.

Gestures wildly at everything

I think she chose every method at once

God had the opportunity to end this in the funniest way possible back when Trump got COVID. Our mistake is in assuming Trump is the Pharaoh and not the Plague.

There is no God. For fucks sake imagine believing in ghosts in the 21st century.

Imagine being such a neckbeard that you can't handle a joke about the same people you're shitting on. Go outside.

Wait shit, Middletown had a natural disaster. Wait, fuck that motherfucker is from Middletown‽ Here I thought I was just being a generalist to my state by saying that Appalachians didn’t get shit compared to queer folk here, but I spent enough time in Middletown to say for a fact that his book is whiny bs

Is he responsible for the shooting? He once told a friend that Trump was America's Hitler

I can't believe we have a fucking candidate whose name's "JD." It's like he's the kid brother on some 90s sitcom. Blergh.

Though in 30 years we'll have all the Braydens and Jaydens and Haydens getting elected.

Well, I, for one, appreciate that he's wearing clothes every time I've seen his picture.

An Ivy League Man who become Very Wealthy thanks to Hollywood and Entertainment is EXACTLY the type of Working Class individual who will help DRAIN THE SWAMP! KEEP HOLLYWOOD OUT OF DC!

At least Trump isn't going through the facade of 'draining the swamp' again. He's letting the swamp rats in through the front door.

It's a quirky pretentious thing that they take pride in. It's not Ohio State University. It's THE Ohio State University

So, the GOP is running with two white men again? We'll, color me surprised...

If I was him I would have gone with a woman or a minority to kind of hide the racism and sexism. That was until a month ago. Why hide it now?

I think the idea with Vance is to display a youthful side in contrast to Trump, especially since age has been a topic in the campaign on both sides. But it's just tiresome to watch the same ol' white men being worshipped at the polls.

Trump wants a loyal guy.

Except he was a never Trumper back in 2016. It's going to be fun to play back those quotes.

Also, I wonder if you need to pick out your own noose if you're going to be Trump's VP.

Except he was a never Trumper back in 2016. It’s going to be fun to play back those quotes.

I'm years past thinking anyone voting R cares about (or maybe even perceives) hypocrisy in the slightest if it comes from someone with R next to their name.

He doesn't have the tiniest shred of decency like Pence did and will be riding Trump's dick the whole way, so very unlikely he'll have to worry about the noose...from Trump's supporters, anyway.

Vance is a Muppet. When Pence finally said no, Vance will say yes.

I thought JFK Jr. was coming back from the dead to be the VP.

When I read JD Vance, it reminds me of:

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Ah, he chose the most MAGA of the frontrunners, huh? Unsurprising.

Man who called Trump "Hitler" excited to accept nomination to become Goebbels.

What's a, "naked authoritarian"?

I'm going withe obvious. He's a nudist. I'm also assuming it's a he, because well... Trump.