it the reason why you can post in any imaginable writing system from ancient sumerian complaints in cuneiform ๐๐ ๐พ๐ข๐ to the goddamn seraphim o "ัะตัะฐัะธะผะธ ะผะฝะพะณะพ๊ฎาัะธััะธา" that was used exactly once in a single 15century manuscript.
its also the reason you can post emojis nearly anywhere.
Yeah, UTF-8 is great, but ASCII had a character that made a sound.
Glorious modern แแฎแแแแแแแแฅแแถ.
specclisbing?
spellcasting
This is loss
Oh, now I get it.
:.|:;
๐ฐ
๐๐ค
๐ค๐
Ancient Loss
I'm at a loss
Me too! I'm glad the image is in a lossless format though
This is very funny, but the image is a jpg :(
Weird, it shows as a png for me ๐ค
Shows as a png for me too.
Weird. Maybe my client downloads all images as jpegs
If you zoom in though, it's definitely an image
Can someone help me out here? I'm lost.
The circles have Roman numerals. A is 1, B is 2, C is 2 again and D is 1 plus a hidden Saddam Hussein.
ah, I see, a meme buried within a meme.
What a loss ๐
Well youโre in luck, because this is loss
Semi interesting story. Was driving my exwife around the city and noted how the color tint on one of the buildings as cool. It was a checkerboard pattern or something in different shades of blue/green. She couldnโt see it and said it was โglass coloredโ. She couldnโt really get how the glass was tinted a color.
Anyways printed out a handful of these and yep, she had partial color blindness. Thatโs how she found out.
Thatโs fascinating! Colorblindness in XX women is very rare! Is her father colorblind?
As I understand it the genes for our cones comes from the X chromosome. So for women to be colorblind, their mother has to have one faulty X chromosome and their father has to be colorblind, so the woman can inherit two faulty X chromosomes.
Whereas men just need to inherit one faulty X chromosome from their mother and the Y chromosome from their father.
(Sorry, Iโve always been fascinated by color blindness. I had a friend in college who was quite bemused by how many questions I had for him when I learned he was colorblind.)
This is true for only red and green loght detecting proteins (opsins) - the blue opsin gene is on chromosome 7.
The red and green detecting proteins have an interesting history in humans.
Fish, amphibians, lizards and birds have 4 different opsins: for red, green, yellow and blue colours. And the blue opsin sees up into the ultra-violet. Most animals can see waaaay more colours in the world than we (or any mammal) can. So what happened that makes mammal vision so poor?
It's thought that all mammals descend from one or a few species of nocturnal mammal that survived the catastrophe that wiped out the dinosaurs at the end of the Cretaceous. The colour detecting cells (the cones) need a lot of light compared to ones that see in black-and-white (the rods) and therefore nocturnal animals frequently lose cones in favour of the more sensitive rods for better night vision. The mammals that survived the Cretaceous extinction had also lost the green and yellow opsins while keeping red and blue - basically the two different ends of the light spectrum.
Consequently today most mammals still have only 2 opsins so your cat or dog is red-green colourblind.
Why do humans see green? Probably because our monkey forebears, who lived in trees and ate leaves, needed to distinguish red leaves and red fruit (visible to birds) from the green background.
But how did we bring back the green opsin? A whole section of the X chromosome (where the red opsin is coded) got duplicated in a dna copying mistake and then there were two genes for red opsins. As there are different alleles (versions), they could be selected for independently and so one red opsin drifted up the spectrum to be specific for green. So our green opsin is a completely different gene to the green opsin in fish, birds, etc. This kind of evolution happens a lot which is why, for example, there are many families of similar hormones like testosterone and estrogen. And steroids too.
Fascinating. Thanks for taking the time to type it out
Huh, neat! TIL
Why do humans see green? Probably because our monkey forebears, who lived in trees and ate leaves, needed to distinguish red leaves and red fruit (visible to birds) from the green background
We donโt evolve things cause we need it, evolution is driven by random mutations. Also we keep it if itโs better and helps us stay alive long enough to breed.
I mean, you're really just arguing the semantics of phrasing.
Developing the ability to see green through random mutation was potentially an evolutionary advantage that allowed them to become better adapted to survival. Which is what they meant by "needed."
We donโt evolve things cause we need it... Also we keep it if itโs better and helps us stay alive long enough to breed.
Why do humans see green? Probably because our monkey forebears, who lived in trees and ate leaves, needed to distinguish red leaves and red fruit (visible to birds) from the green background.
I feel like OP covered that.
Thatโs interesting!! I donโt know! We went to the eye doctor and they confirmed (she didnโt totally believe me). She wasnโt in contact with her father and I donโt know if she ever discussed it with her mom or sister.
Another possibility is that she's XY, but the Y never activated, so she developed female but with a single "faulty" X chromosome.
I don't remember my biology classes well enough to say, but wouldn't that also mean that potentially neither of her parents were colorblind, since the Y would've come from her father while the faulty X would've come from her mother? And, if she were XY in this scenario, wouldn't that mean that she'd pass that trait along to her kids as well?
if she were XY in this scenario, wouldn't that mean that she'd pass that trait along to her kids as well?
I could be wrong, but I donโt believe XY females (Swyer syndrome) produce eggs and thus cannot bear their own children.
But a colorblind XX woman who can bear children would give birth to colorblind sons and, if the father of the child is also colorblind, colorblind daughters.
It runs in her family which is how they found out she's XY, but generally they don't do karyotype testing if there's nothing obviously wrong, so there could be a lot of women who are XY and never find out.
For fucks sake
Oh. Oh God damnit.
Huh. Guess I've got some vision loss.
So this is either something vulgar which I (a person experiencing colorblindness) cannot see, or, there are no shapes in those bubbles at all. I think it's the latter since I can't see shapes in either bubble.
Context: dude made an autobiographical comic more serious in tone than his usual work, and the Internet has been mocking him for it ever since.
None of which makes sense without the context of what a enormous jackass Buckley had famously been in online spaces for YEARS. It's not just that loss was a weirdly serious addition to a silly comic, it's that it perfectly encapsulated the kind of sanctimonious self-important attitude Buckley espoused and instantly turned his shitty online persona into a joke.
I don't know if it is genuinely possible to still appreciate loss the way it was without all of the enormity of that context.
I think Cyanide and Happiness did a good job encapsulating your point and why everyone clowned on it at the time.
And as the image title implies, Tim actually said this.
This is just one example of the kind of shitbag Buckley was notorious for being
Holy shit
I knew the dude was a cunt but fucking wow
Never seen this one before. Thank you so very much.
I used to feel this way but ultimately, what happened was tragic, even if it happened years prior. He expressed it publicly and some folks probably felt โseenโ at the time. Thatโs a good thing. Talking about/hearing stories of trauma and loss and grief can be very empowering for folks who have experienced their own.
Like donโt get me wrong: yes he was (is?) all those things you described. No he was not a model messenger for this story. But that was a serious loss and I think at some point folks need to recognize that weโre all human and maybe we shouldnโt attack someone working through the loss of their child. Even if we feel they donโt deserve to express themselves that way.
Maybe Iโm missing elements of the story but I guess Iโve just never been able to square why it needed to be this ruthlessly mocked. Itโs been like 15 years.
Man, at this point some sociology student could probably write a dissertation just on the cultural context of this comic alone. Both the stuff you're talking about regarding de-stigmatizing talking about trauma (and miscarriage in particular), and the way the comic itself has been meme-ified and distilled down to representations as abstract as ".:|:;"
I'd watch a 1-2 hour yt essay on this
Same
Better call HBomberGuy
I see your point and don't entirely disagree, I'll just its hard to feel bad about somebody suffering the consequences of their own actions (not the miscarriage obviously, but the reaction to it).
You don't really get to complain about feeling alone when you're the one that burned all the bridges that lead to your house, imo.
Maybe so but Iโd still help them.
_โ10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and the remaining 80 percent can be moved in either direction.โ_ -Susan Sontag
Thank you for being part of the merciful 10%.
Iโd say that is too generous of praise but thank you. I try to be part of the merciful 10% for sure. Never heard of this before but I really like it
It isn't overly generous, you yourself said it, "...I'd still help them."
I'm glad you like the quote, thank you again for living it :)
Even after that, I don't see the connection.
The lines mimic the positions of the people in the panels.
Wow, OK...
I'm with you, but granted we are in Lemmy Shitpost.
It is one of those so stupid it's funny memes.
Wow people have a million things to say about this.
It's really surprising that something so obscure became a meme. What's the first instance of the comic being represented with line segments like that? How did they come to be recognizable?
The original comic was rather popular at the time, and as a result, it became an early meme before mass-scale meme culture had really taken off besides doge memes and "I can haz cheeseburger." So it quickly entered the cultural zeitgeist of the early internet because the kinds of people into memes and gamer culture at the time would've been about the size of the terminally online crowd today.
| || || |_
I think I'm all good
.:|:;
Welp I just lost The Game. Thanks.
Youโre loss
For those who want to see what at least protonopia might see:
And for those color blind people that might want a shifted perspective:
I remain baffled by this. But since I can barely differentiate red and green in optimal lighting conditions, it does not come as a surprise.
So still very visible
Hmm, did it look different from original? Wonder if I messed up and uploaded the wrong thing..
I can't see the left ones and the top right is a bit hard for me to see. The bottom right for me is more legible in my first picture.
They absolutely look different from the original.
Colors seem to have shifted a bit. And they symbols are harder to see. But for me I can still see all of them.
I want to hate this, but it's actually a clever bit. Take my upvote.
Hahah colourblidness for the win! No loss for me!
Finally! One that's not a joke!
Me when I find out I'm loosing my vision
Did it use to be tight?
I hope op stubs his toe after stepping on a Lego.
it took me a minute
Oh my god.. 0_0
I can only see the last, I take the L and leave
The first one says 215 though
I read ctrl,alt,del in like 2007 or so. Why is this suddenly popular again?!
It isn't suddenly popular again. Loss memes have been continuously popular the whole time.
It must be me than. I hadn t seen it in ages before coming to lemmy.
How would I know if I can see all the...? Oh. Well played.
๐ก
I see all the circles in the circles
8=======D~~~~~~
I could truly only make out D, and I still already knew.
Edit: lol, what are you people down voting for? The fact that I'm actually color blind or the fact that I recognized an incredibly overused meme with only one of the 4 panels?
๐ฅ โโ ๐ ๐
๐ ๐ โ ๐ฃ ๐
What is this wizardry?
๐๐๐ the wonders of unicode / utf-8
it the reason why you can post in any imaginable writing system from ancient sumerian complaints in cuneiform ๐๐ ๐พ๐ข๐ to the goddamn seraphim o "ัะตัะฐัะธะผะธ ะผะฝะพะณะพ๊ฎาัะธััะธา" that was used exactly once in a single 15century manuscript.
its also the reason you can post emojis nearly anywhere.
Yeah, UTF-8 is great, but ASCII had a character that made a sound.
BEL is alive and well in unicode: https://unicodeplus.com/U+0007
We need an emoji that says "bruh" then.
I'm intrigued. Do elaborate.
Likely talking about the bell character .
๐
I tried to click that ๐
I tried to click that despite reading that you tried to click that and eye rolled at your self
The first 127 or 255 characters of UTF-8 are just ASCII if I'm not mistaken, for backwards compatibility with ASCII-based systems
How dare you write the name of a man who sells inferior copper!
I love that we have so much type of o-s. These are all different characters:
oะพฮฟึ ๐๐๐๐พ๐ธ
Similar to how it had every Japanese village name, including some which never existed
๐บ
๐บ
you dont need the Rosetta stone for this one
I love how no one has given a precise answer to this question:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Hieroglyphs_(Unicode_block)
Unicode.
Glorious modern แแฎแแแแแแแแฅแแถ.
specclisbing?
spellcasting
This is loss
Oh, now I get it.
:.|:;๐ฐ
๐๐ค
๐ค๐
Ancient Loss
I'm at a loss
Me too! I'm glad the image is in a lossless format though
This is very funny, but the image is a jpg :(
Weird, it shows as a png for me ๐ค
Shows as a png for me too.
Weird. Maybe my client downloads all images as jpegs
If you zoom in though, it's definitely an image
Can someone help me out here? I'm lost.
The circles have Roman numerals. A is 1, B is 2, C is 2 again and D is 1 plus a hidden Saddam Hussein.
ah, I see, a meme buried within a meme.
What a loss ๐
Well youโre in luck, because this is loss
Semi interesting story. Was driving my exwife around the city and noted how the color tint on one of the buildings as cool. It was a checkerboard pattern or something in different shades of blue/green. She couldnโt see it and said it was โglass coloredโ. She couldnโt really get how the glass was tinted a color.
Anyways printed out a handful of these and yep, she had partial color blindness. Thatโs how she found out.
Thatโs fascinating! Colorblindness in XX women is very rare! Is her father colorblind?
As I understand it the genes for our cones comes from the X chromosome. So for women to be colorblind, their mother has to have one faulty X chromosome and their father has to be colorblind, so the woman can inherit two faulty X chromosomes.
Whereas men just need to inherit one faulty X chromosome from their mother and the Y chromosome from their father.
(Sorry, Iโve always been fascinated by color blindness. I had a friend in college who was quite bemused by how many questions I had for him when I learned he was colorblind.)
This is true for only red and green loght detecting proteins (opsins) - the blue opsin gene is on chromosome 7.
The red and green detecting proteins have an interesting history in humans.
Fish, amphibians, lizards and birds have 4 different opsins: for red, green, yellow and blue colours. And the blue opsin sees up into the ultra-violet. Most animals can see waaaay more colours in the world than we (or any mammal) can. So what happened that makes mammal vision so poor?
It's thought that all mammals descend from one or a few species of nocturnal mammal that survived the catastrophe that wiped out the dinosaurs at the end of the Cretaceous. The colour detecting cells (the cones) need a lot of light compared to ones that see in black-and-white (the rods) and therefore nocturnal animals frequently lose cones in favour of the more sensitive rods for better night vision. The mammals that survived the Cretaceous extinction had also lost the green and yellow opsins while keeping red and blue - basically the two different ends of the light spectrum.
Consequently today most mammals still have only 2 opsins so your cat or dog is red-green colourblind.
Why do humans see green? Probably because our monkey forebears, who lived in trees and ate leaves, needed to distinguish red leaves and red fruit (visible to birds) from the green background.
But how did we bring back the green opsin? A whole section of the X chromosome (where the red opsin is coded) got duplicated in a dna copying mistake and then there were two genes for red opsins. As there are different alleles (versions), they could be selected for independently and so one red opsin drifted up the spectrum to be specific for green. So our green opsin is a completely different gene to the green opsin in fish, birds, etc. This kind of evolution happens a lot which is why, for example, there are many families of similar hormones like testosterone and estrogen. And steroids too.
Fascinating. Thanks for taking the time to type it out
Huh, neat! TIL
We donโt evolve things cause we need it, evolution is driven by random mutations. Also we keep it if itโs better and helps us stay alive long enough to breed.
I mean, you're really just arguing the semantics of phrasing.
Developing the ability to see green through random mutation was potentially an evolutionary advantage that allowed them to become better adapted to survival. Which is what they meant by "needed."
I feel like OP covered that.
Thatโs interesting!! I donโt know! We went to the eye doctor and they confirmed (she didnโt totally believe me). She wasnโt in contact with her father and I donโt know if she ever discussed it with her mom or sister.
Another possibility is that she's XY, but the Y never activated, so she developed female but with a single "faulty" X chromosome.
I don't remember my biology classes well enough to say, but wouldn't that also mean that potentially neither of her parents were colorblind, since the Y would've come from her father while the faulty X would've come from her mother? And, if she were XY in this scenario, wouldn't that mean that she'd pass that trait along to her kids as well?
I could be wrong, but I donโt believe XY females (Swyer syndrome) produce eggs and thus cannot bear their own children.
But a colorblind XX woman who can bear children would give birth to colorblind sons and, if the father of the child is also colorblind, colorblind daughters.
There's at least one case study where an XY female got pregnant and had children.
It runs in her family which is how they found out she's XY, but generally they don't do karyotype testing if there's nothing obviously wrong, so there could be a lot of women who are XY and never find out.
For fucks sake
Oh. Oh God damnit.
Huh. Guess I've got some vision loss.
So this is either something vulgar which I (a person experiencing colorblindness) cannot see, or, there are no shapes in those bubbles at all. I think it's the latter since I can't see shapes in either bubble.
EDIT:
Oh it's that
i iI Ii I_
thing, which I never understood
https://cad-comic.com/comic/loss/
Context: dude made an autobiographical comic more serious in tone than his usual work, and the Internet has been mocking him for it ever since.
None of which makes sense without the context of what a enormous jackass Buckley had famously been in online spaces for YEARS. It's not just that loss was a weirdly serious addition to a silly comic, it's that it perfectly encapsulated the kind of sanctimonious self-important attitude Buckley espoused and instantly turned his shitty online persona into a joke.
I don't know if it is genuinely possible to still appreciate loss the way it was without all of the enormity of that context.
I think Cyanide and Happiness did a good job encapsulating your point and why everyone clowned on it at the time.
https://explosm.net/comics/dave-tim-actually-said-this
And as the image title implies, Tim actually said this.
This is just one example of the kind of shitbag Buckley was notorious for being
Holy shit
I knew the dude was a cunt but fucking wow
Never seen this one before. Thank you so very much.
I used to feel this way but ultimately, what happened was tragic, even if it happened years prior. He expressed it publicly and some folks probably felt โseenโ at the time. Thatโs a good thing. Talking about/hearing stories of trauma and loss and grief can be very empowering for folks who have experienced their own.
Like donโt get me wrong: yes he was (is?) all those things you described. No he was not a model messenger for this story. But that was a serious loss and I think at some point folks need to recognize that weโre all human and maybe we shouldnโt attack someone working through the loss of their child. Even if we feel they donโt deserve to express themselves that way.
Maybe Iโm missing elements of the story but I guess Iโve just never been able to square why it needed to be this ruthlessly mocked. Itโs been like 15 years.
Man, at this point some sociology student could probably write a dissertation just on the cultural context of this comic alone. Both the stuff you're talking about regarding de-stigmatizing talking about trauma (and miscarriage in particular), and the way the comic itself has been meme-ified and distilled down to representations as abstract as "
.:|:;"I'd watch a 1-2 hour yt essay on this
Same
Better call HBomberGuy
I see your point and don't entirely disagree, I'll just its hard to feel bad about somebody suffering the consequences of their own actions (not the miscarriage obviously, but the reaction to it).
You don't really get to complain about feeling alone when you're the one that burned all the bridges that lead to your house, imo.
Maybe so but Iโd still help them.
Thank you for being part of the merciful 10%.
Iโd say that is too generous of praise but thank you. I try to be part of the merciful 10% for sure. Never heard of this before but I really like it
It isn't overly generous, you yourself said it, "...I'd still help them."
I'm glad you like the quote, thank you again for living it :)
Even after that, I don't see the connection.
The lines mimic the positions of the people in the panels.
Wow, OK...
I'm with you, but granted we are in Lemmy Shitpost.
It is one of those so stupid it's funny memes.
Wow people have a million things to say about this.
It's really surprising that something so obscure became a meme. What's the first instance of the comic being represented with line segments like that? How did they come to be recognizable?
The original comic was rather popular at the time, and as a result, it became an early meme before mass-scale meme culture had really taken off besides doge memes and "I can haz cheeseburger." So it quickly entered the cultural zeitgeist of the early internet because the kinds of people into memes and gamer culture at the time would've been about the size of the terminally online crowd today.
| || || |_
I think I'm all good
.:|:;Welp I just lost The Game. Thanks.
Youโre loss
For those who want to see what at least protonopia might see:
And for those color blind people that might want a shifted perspective:
I remain baffled by this. But since I can barely differentiate red and green in optimal lighting conditions, it does not come as a surprise.
So still very visible
Hmm, did it look different from original? Wonder if I messed up and uploaded the wrong thing..
I can't see the left ones and the top right is a bit hard for me to see. The bottom right for me is more legible in my first picture.
They absolutely look different from the original.
Colors seem to have shifted a bit. And they symbols are harder to see. But for me I can still see all of them.
I want to hate this, but it's actually a clever bit. Take my upvote.
Hahah colourblidness for the win! No loss for me!
Finally! One that's not a joke!
Me when I find out I'm loosing my vision
Did it use to be tight?
I hope op stubs his toe after stepping on a Lego.
it took me a minute
Oh my god.. 0_0
I can only see the last, I take the L and leave
The first one says 215 though
I read ctrl,alt,del in like 2007 or so. Why is this suddenly popular again?!
It isn't suddenly popular again. Loss memes have been continuously popular the whole time.
It must be me than. I hadn t seen it in ages before coming to lemmy.
Congratulations on not being terminally online!
Jokes on you i can only see the 4th panel
Shirt I want to buy.
How would I know if I can see all the...? Oh. Well played.
๐ก
I see all the circles in the circles
8=======D~~~~~~
I could truly only make out D, and I still already knew.
Edit: lol, what are you people down voting for? The fact that I'm actually color blind or the fact that I recognized an incredibly overused meme with only one of the 4 panels?