Why did you get fired?

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I applied for a warehouse job and the interviewer loved me and my resume and said I was hired, I just had to fill out a basic literacy test. I was studying at university so it was a silly thing to ask but he said it's just a formality; they have to do it.

One question said "describe yourself in three sentences". I wrote something like "I am very punctual. I enjoy stacking boxes. I'm a self starter. I always do more than asked." Get it? It's four sentences but they asked for three. The fourth one being about doing more than asked. Funny right?? Yeah the interviewer called me back saying head office didn't find it funny and I was disqualified for failing the literacy test.

I figured I dodged a bullet because it must suck to work for a bunch of people without a sense of humour!

You failed the order following test.

That's exactly what happened. yea

Come on, that's objectively funny, and if someone was properly manager-brained they'd just think "Ah, squeeze some more outta that one". Lame behavior on every front

I think they wanted people who follow orders to the dot, not people who have a sense of humor. Sounds like a terrible place to work, but I still understand their reasoning.

Those people would have also fired you for failing the question because you weren't fired, you just weren't hired. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to have a sense of humor but they're basically saying you're illiterate because you can write 4 sentences instead of 3, instead of just being honest about the fact that they're gonna micromanage you and they can already see it won't work out because you don't follow stupid rules to the letter.

Maybe writing two sentences would have been more than asked, since it would have been more concise. Who knows. I'm sorry that happened to you.

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I refused to return to office.

I might be about to get fired for that one too lol

If return-to-office announced at an all-company at my work, I’m putting in my two weeks in the chat and on our all-company slack channel.

My place isn’t shitty enough to do that (I hope) but I’ve got a lil write-up in the works to copypaste immediately in the event they are. I’m curious as to if it would inspire anyone else to leave, too.

I hope you don’t have to go back to the office, but you’re exceptionally based if you refuse.

I shit all over the manager (figuratively) in front of everybody after one of their outbursts.

Full disclosure: This was at a fast food restaurant I applied for a job at with the intent of fucking with 2 of the shittiest managers I've ever witnessed after stopping for a burger one time. Did it on a whim and it was quite a bit of fun. 10/10, would recommend. Plus, I got paid to do it.

I'm so disappointed in the fact that you didn't literally shit over the manager. My disappointment is immesurable, and my day is ruined. (But the manager's dignity would've been ruined if you did shit over him/her.)

It was a her and I'm not into pooping on people. Still, I understand your disappointment, she was an asshole.

What does this mean, to figuratively shit all over someone? Like jumping on the counter and acting it out?

If you’re seriously asking, it means to show superiority.

I was serious, I’ve never heard it used in…that way is all.

So they said they are the better boss?

They got called out on all their bullshit, in front of the staff they were trying to take advantage of.

I told my boss that I was going to have to reduce my hours back to weekends only because college was starting back up again which meant I couldn't do week day shifts, so they put me down for two mid week shifts and didn't tell me about them, then they used that as an excuse to fire me.

I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like classic "constructive dismissal", which qualifies for unemployment in most states. Of course, you'd have to fight for it, which as a college student, would've probably been too expensive and time-consuming. Sorry about the shit boss.

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I’m in the UK and it was a dodgy cash in hand job at a chippy with no actual contract, so I didn’t really have any way to fight against it if I had wanted to keep the job anyway.

Even if I had a way to fight against it I was technically too young for the job and my car didn’t have the right insurance to do it because of that so I didn’t want any extra attention. I got through the college year and got decent grades though so it all worked out alright in the end.

Pretty sure they'd get rejected for unemployment (at least in my state) as you're required to have open availability in order to get it.

I had several bosses like that until my favorite boss of all time. We worked retail in a college town and so she expected this. Every semester she would sit us down and have us write out our availability for the new semester, and then she would give us all set schedules. It made everyone's lives so easy.

Managers like yours are just lazy and can't plan ahead, it's such an avoidable problem if you plan just the tiniest bit

Not actually fired, but I just resigned from a relatively high paying career position without something lined up.

I work in tech, and some parts of that market are very much in flux due to AI disruption. For this company it led to a shuffle and, in my opinion, a lot of people ending up in roles they shouldn't be in.

A few things happened during that shuffle. First, I was overlooked for a promotion that otherwise seemed in the bag (to the point where others were equally confused). Ultimately the person who ended up as my boss really should not be where they are. They don't understand the business and started making other bad decisions without even consulting the team of experts on hand. In fact, they apologized to me for "starting off on the wrong foot", but the damage was largely done, and they kept making really bad calls anyway -- calls which put the team constantly at risk and kept things very inefficient.

And yes, of course they are good friends with the new CEO.

That exacerbated a lot of issues we already had with constantly juggling tasks and chronic understaffing. After that promotion snub, plus being one of the few really holding things together anyway, I realized that the stress of the position entirely outweighed the stress of finding another job. Obviously I also felt like upward mobility was no longer a thing. I was dreading work every morning. I started to get really bad anxiety. I wanted to find something else, but my mental state was such that I didn't have the drive to seek alternatives or interview while also working at this place. I asked to reduce my weekly workload for a while, and when it wasn't working too well, I asked to go on leave to try and combat the burnout. New boss was instantly waffling on approval, so I felt I had no other realistic option but resignation.

My wife and I are in a pretty secure financial position, and she's got her own job that is going well. It is the first time in my life I have resigned from a position without anything lined up, which admittedly does feel weird. Taking some time for better mental health, then to hone a few skills, then will be returning to market.

I had a panic attack at work and a coworker heard me cursing through tears.

In fairness, I'm sure hearing variations on "fuck damn ass piss shit fuck fuck" over and over was annoying.

Man, fuck that coworker. I'm sorry that happened to you.

How trash of a person must you be to

  1. see someone at work having an obvious panic attack and instead of helping, "giving them out" (if it can even be called that in this case) to your boss

  2. fire someone after the previous cunt told you about a coworkers panic attack

I hope both of them learn what it feels like to be human someday and they won't be able to sleep for it

Took too much unlimited PTO. All of it approved too. Idk.

The unwritten rule of unlimited PTO is like 2 weeks max but you're gonna get the side eye if you even take that much. It's just a scam because most people use less when it's 'unlimited' and because depending on local laws they may have to pay you out for it in the event of separation of employment if it's accrued.

I have a company that truly does mean unlimited PTO (with some rules of like okay come on don't take 2 months off in a row or something crazy regularly), but I admit that is not the norm

Sounds like you work for a unicorn!

Oh I do, and it's failing! Because of course it is! I expect them to be out of business within the year. (Currently job hunting and no matter what it's going to be a step backwards back into corpo America)

Sorry to hear that. The biggest downside of unlimited PTO is that you aren't owed any PTO. So if you quit or they go out of business, you don't get anything paid out like you normally would.

Tbf if they go out of business youre probably not seeing any of that anyway

You mind sharing what they do? It's a bummer they're failing, there need to be more companies that try new things like unlimited pto. I'd love to just go on a hike spontaneously without having to feel bad

I would have liked it to be written! I may have dodged a bullet.

Bug in the new point-of-sale software that the managers couldn't fix caused a small (under $200) sale to not process correctly. Was terminated for money mismanagement. Mgmt was so incompetent that they lost one of their best sellers, and ended up paying me unemployment through the lockdown because they couldn't defend the termination to the unemployment office.

I can't even begin to justify that even if you were the one to write the bug in the first place.

If it wasn't clear, we were the retail users of the software. I was the one making the sale and taking the payment.

I finally made a vague comment pushing back against my boss's fucking unhinged conspiracy theories and shitty beliefs after being forced to hear him spout it for nearly a year.

"Wow, Wayne. I thought you were against the government regulating what people should do with their bodies. Huh.. but okay."

He turned purple, didn't talk to me for the rest of the day, and never put me on the schedule after that.

Their entire business closed down a few months ago. I feel bad for were the ladies working there & my one co-worker. They were all part of the same church/religion, and they all basically cowered before Wayne. Wayne was an asshole who treated them all terribly. He was just mad that I didn't let him treat me the same way.

They also didn't want to give me more than 18 hours per week or raise my pay up from 12$ an hour for the highly specialized job I was doing.

Good riddance, Wayne.

Must... maintain.. illogical... cognitive dissonance... 🤯

"Rules for thee, but not for me!"

Oh man this the thing that pisses me off so much. It became so abundantly clear during covid. "Stay inside and maintain social distance everyone, while I have my cocktail party chortle chortle"

Worst part of this too is when they get COVID and its the most mild case ever, cementing their shitting attitude about it being a "cold at worst."

Nah. This dude literally had a "mysterious heart attack" during the pandemic and never connected the dots. He survived. Literally blamed it on people who were "vaccine shedding".

Him and his wife also lamented on how many friends of theirs had died during covid, but always found an excuse to blame literally anything else but the pandemic.

Guy went so far as to make fun of a man who came into the shop wearing a mask. The man's wife was battling cancer at home.

I once was working as an apartment maintenance guy for a property in Colorado. During the interview I made it clear that I wasn't looking to move into a high responsibility role immediately and that I wanted to spend some time familiarizing myself with some more specific types of repair before going into any sort of management track. The interviewer seemed to like that answer given my previous experience and resume and I was hired.

A few months later, I made a mistake because I was asked to take a tech from the local utility around to every single unit on the property. Originally the property manager told me I'd have three days to do the work, but I was pressured to do it faster so that the tech could make a flight to his next job. We were installing batteries in water meters, which required the unlocking and opening of water heater closets on resident balconies. The residents did not have a key to their closet and were not allowed access. The closets did not use doorknobs either. They were held shut by the deadbolt locks. That night a storm rolled in. The resident called the on call service complaining that the wind was blowing the door open, but the on-call tech told them to put something in front of the door to keep it shut and that we would be by in the morning to lock the deadbolt. They didn't do as they were asked and their pipes froze, causing a flood in the unit below them.

Later that day, I was asked to hand over my keys. As I was getting them detached from my personal keys, the property manager told me that she felt that she was "sold a bill of goods" that I hadn't lived up to and that she had hired me because i had looked like "management track material." I told her that in the interview with the maintenance manager I said that I wanted a learning experience and that I wasn't ready for management. I told them I had never lied to them and left the property.

A week later I had applied for and was interviewing for a new job at another property. My phone rang during the interview. I silenced it and apologized to the interviewer but carried on. After the interview I listened to the voicemail that my old boss had left. "When we offered you the job I had you mixed up with someone else. We hired the wrong person."

My phone rang during the interview. I silenced it and apologized to the interviewer but carried on. After the interview I listened to the voicemail that my old boss had left. "When we offered you the job I had you mixed up with someone else. We hired the wrong person."

They called you and said that because they were being blamed for something on their end and it was going to make them feel better to say you should never have been hired. They didn’t make a mistake, they’re just trying to make themselves feel better. You did fine and you got a good learning experience while you were at it!

Oh for sure. I no longer work in that industry and am much happier. I fix wheelchairs for a living now.

I started a job at a regional bank on a team that was responsible for integrating the data from newly acquired banks into their systems. The team was overworked and definitely needed more hands on deck, but they didn't have time to train anybody new on the process. Aside from that, the organization of the team was pretty poor.

When I started, they seemed unaware that I was supposed to be starting that day, so they didn't have a desk or anything ready for me. So that first day was a bit of a wash. The second day, they put me at a desk on the floor above the rest of my team. That was also the only time that I met the manager who hired me. It seemed like people mostly forgot about me because I didn't really get any work assigned until a couple weeks in.

They wanted me to make one of their mapping documents (which appeared to be a SQL statement copied into a Word document with every detail meticulously documented across twenty pages). I didn't have any idea where to start with it. The next day, they said that there is no way I could do that without training, so they took the assignment away. Over the next couple of months, I'd bring up that I didn't have anything to work on at every morning meeting. But other than that, I just spent my day editing Wikipedia articles.

Eventually they keyed in on the fact that they were paying me $90k per year to do nothing, so they fired me. They said it was probably their fault for hiring somebody without banking experience. I don't think banking experience would have helped.

Oh yeah, and the meeting where I was fired was also where I found out that the person firing me was my team lead.

The owner was an alcoholic. Her husband sent her to rehab. She came back hating men (both me and her husband). My wife worked for them at the time and we were getting a divorce. She fired me and kept my wife on the payroll

Refused to turn up to an unpaid yet compulsory training session while on my probation period. I think I dodged a bullet.

A decade ago working at a retail store. My manager told me in a private meeting that i was expendable and he would fire me for any excuse. It's not like i even did anything, it was just pure, spiteful power tripping. Later on i was bitching about what an asshole he is to some coworkers, and mimed him sucking the owner's dick. I think one of my coworkers was sleeping with him, and i guess she told him. He was crying when he fired me. I feel a little bad, but also fuck that guy.

I once was fired for being a top performer but being a contractor. Me and another guy were doing 45% of all the IT help desk work for a top American insurance company. Then one day th company that employed us had their contract terminated. This means that we were asked to leave. In the exit interview I asked if it was performance based, because I felt we did most of the work, they complemented my performance and even noticed that I was the best at making coffee but they had to start making better financial choices and we were welcome to apply for full time work with the company.

Funny how it worked out because the next job was the one that really put me into the career position.

So I have to say that sometimes bad things happen when it's not your fault but it can be a blessing in disguise. You might be opening a door to something better.

Feel like I'm about to end up in the same position myself. Luckily I can back myself as I really wouldn't like to be an employee at this place I'm contracting for.

First job I wasn't experienced enough (kitchen porter at a busy restaurant).

Next and last one my coworker was going to sue the boss for sexual assault and part of the crew including her were planning on suing for laboral exploitation (false contracts, unpaid hours, etc). The boss heard about it and fired us and threatened to sue us for bullshit (for staying after closing drinking, it was a pub so is something normal and some coworkers that were there but didn't want to sue didn't have any problem).

Technically, I was laid off and not fired, but here's what happened: I intended to take five weeks of unpaid COVID leave in 2020 so that I could handle childcare until my wife's Summer break started, but they laid me off two weeks in. I guess I just made myself an easy target. Fortunately, a previous employer hired me back within a few weeks, fully remote.

I was fired for "fraternisation in the workplace". Teenage me was caught snogging the boss's daughter, no less, in the stock area by said boss. Cue "get your hands off my daughter" (he didn't know we were dating) and a meeting later that day being told much more calmly I was being let go for fraternisation. I said it was unfair because he kissed his wife in front of us the previous week, and he said "not that way," and he had a point, but it was still obviously unfair.

Anyway, we started deliberately dating in secret instead of her just not really telling him, and when she rang me she always called me Samantha, which I then used to find exciting (Freud eat your heart out).

I'm convinced that she found it exciting to be disobeying her dad, and would complain to me about her dad saying something like "he's just trying to take advantage of you" and we would reassure each other that I wasn't but she would be much keener those days, it felt like.

When you're a teenager and you find a magic button that gets you nice things, you don't hold back on pressing the button, so if she got a bit unenthusiastic about meeting up, I'd just ring her at home knowing full well that her dad would shout at me if he answered and her mum would quietly also refuse to put me through but tell her to stop me from ringing because it might upset her dad. She'd argue with her parents and get revenge by seeing me and behaving in a manner she new her parents to find improper.

It was really fun while it lasted, but in the end I felt like I shouldn't have to provoke her dad to get with her and stopped doing it. We drifted apart, I don't know whether her heart wasn't in it when she wasn't cross with her dad or I just started worrying about that too much, but I'm pretty sure her dad had been my unintentional wing man all those months. I really think it's properly messed up.

She later dated a guy who I think really was trying to take advantage of her. Also messed up.

Anyway, I got a job at the big chain version of his store and of course she and her friends started shopping there, which resulted in more arguments with her dad.

I guess the moral of the story is make sure you're on good terms with your teenage daughter or she might just go against everything you said just to spite you.

My best firing was from a job I got hired for at 16. Seasonal help for Victoria’s Secret in a local mall. This seems like a random detail, but makes the firing even funnier to me: VS (at least, this one) was bisected into the lingerie half of the store and the perfume/cosmetics half of the store. I was hired to work the perfume counter.

It was their holiday hiring push, so myself and a half dozen other women or so came in for a full day of group training—like get there ass early for hours of dumb safety/theft videos, paperwork, mock customer interactions & sales transactions on the POS, etc.

We finish all this up, and the trainer is congratulating us for being done as one of the managers is arriving for her shift. The trainer encourages us to introduce ourselves to the manager and each other & releases us for the day. I wasn’t shy, and was the first one to shake manager’s hand. She makes small talk and asks what scheduling preferences I had submitted. In response, I mentioned something about classes and she asks what college I go to.

When I laugh and correct her with the name of my high school, her face changes and she asks my age. “Oh, uhhh you can’t work here.” I am confused and tell her that I listed my correct information on the application. “Yeah, sorry, someone made a mistake. We only hire 18+ employees.”

To work the perfume counter. In a panties store. Meanwhile, 2023 me likes to periodically glance at Target’s growing sex toy selection (that is presumably stocked/rung up/at least VIEWED by minor employees) because it still feels novel. Victoria still had to mail me a check for training hours and can go fuck herself 😂

I have a bad case of Resting Bitch Face and I got fired from my barista job at Starbucks for not smiling enough and because I apparently "always looked like I wasn't enjoying myself" while at work.

My "default" settings face just looks serious, sorry, I can't help it.

I was fired from Shopko for the same thing after being promised I was hired as permanent rather than seasonal. Of course, it didn't seem to be a problem until after the holiday rush. Clowns.

The head of the chemistry dept didnt like me and my boss got sick of being told that it was illegal to have the hazardous waste on site more than a year and that the hazardous waste company should probably be sent out to deal with it so they compiled a list of things about me that annoyed them (nitpicking) until they were satisfied that they could fire me without consequence.

I got unemployment and wanted to leave for another job anyway so the joke is on them.

I got fired for not arranging the tshirts at Spencer's. No one told me they were moving me from poster to t-shirt duty.

company was a start up and they didn't find any funds for 2023. the option was, work for free / "stocks" or be fired.

at least i'm getting unemployment.

One of the many jobs I had in the past involved such gross violations of health and safety codes that my own immediate boss threatened to write me up on the first day because I was "going too slow" and actually following safety procedures. He demonstrated the "correct" way to do the job (blatantly skipping the safety procedures that I had just learned in training all the while) and said I needed to reconsider my priorities or quit.

I quit.

The job was at a hospital. I was working with contact hazard and breathing hazard critical care patients. agony-4horsemen

This guy should be reported and fired, that's really fucked up.

I was a young, ignorant, and vulnerable college 20something at the time and by the time I knew my rights a lot of windows of (provable) rules violations getting punished had come and gone.

I've experienced exactly this situation as well. I didn't quit, though, I just kept being a nuisance by being the only sensible person until they made up a reason to fire me

Company went through my email and saw that I was applying for a job at a different place. Fair enough I guess, dumb move on my part to use company email. I did get the other job though, so it worked out.

And I quote “I’m going to do you a favor. You’re just too smart. I’m letting you go.” This was like the 3rd day.

I needed a job, any job, so I took a position below my experience level at the time. I wasn’t very happy about it. Like I said, I needed the job.

"I'm doing you a favor" - The person not at all doing you a favor

Being "let go" looks not so great to future emplorers as well. What the fuck kinda favor did he think that is??

In high school I worked in a call center doing telemarket research. They would monitor phone calls and your typing and grade you on if you entered stuff verbatim. I'd get in trouble a lot for using contractions when the person didn't and small stuff like that. I'm sure there was some reason for needing to be precise but it was never explained. Oh well. I put up with it because it paid well 15 bucks an hour when minimum wage was 6 something and hours were 6 to 10 so people could work it as a second job.

Anyway it was senior year and I had a lot going on. Internship from 6am to 10am. School from 11am to 3pm then work 6pm to 10pm. Well I ended up getting some really nasty flu or something in February and my internship gave me the week I was sick off and the week after since we worked with primates and I may have been contagious. Work didn't believe me but I literally had no voice and could only whisper, no way was I talking on the phone for 4 hours a night. But I begged and pleaded and they let me come back a few weeks later.

Well a week or two after getting better my grandfather ended up passing away. I just needed my Friday and Saturday shifts off at work and internship to drive up for the funeral. My internship gave me the week off anyways. The bosses at work called me in and told me they didn't believe me thought I'd been lying about everything the past few months and told me to shape up or ship out. I chose to ship out.

They ended up calling me a week later and asking me to come but I'd had enough.

The latest supervisor was a devout catholic with literally 12 children, and he found out that the time off I'd taken was to get a vasectomy.

I could have pushed the issue and very likely could have kept my job but... we kept getting fewer contracts, there was drama between C-level people, and Mr. Catholic was the 3rd boss in 8 months. I had a new job two days later, working for a place that isn't so obviously circling the drain.

You have to steal company equipment or sexually assult a colleague to get fired here. I've done neither of those things.

I used to work for the government. I don't think they'd fire you even if you did sexually assault a colleague that seems pretty much standard operation for them.

I left because it was god-awful boring.

Panera overnight baker. I got hired as a warm body to stop them from having to fly someone in and put them up in a hotel. I did not have any relevant qualifications. My training was rushed and done by someone who wasn’t qualified to train me. Then when I was doing the job too slowly, they decided it was cheaper to bring someone in than to keep paying me overtime. I almost cried. I’d never made more than $10 an hour prior to that job, so I thought I was making good money. I wasn’t. Panera and their overpriced shit can eat my whole ass.

Panera, at least around where I am, used to allow employees to take away discarded/unused/expired bread for personal use. But that was too nice to the poors so that ended eventually. porky-scared

A lot of that is about the bread wall. You can buy the full miches, among other things, off the bread wall behind the counters. I guess they’ve found that having all that fresh bread out front increases sales (kind of like how groceries stores out fresh flowers out front and then having the produce section be right near the front door), but a lot of the big ones sell really inconsistently. Not many people are doing grocery shopping at Panera, you know? Some days the bread wall empties. Other days, it’s half full at the end of the day with bread that’s only a couple days away from being moldy or so hard it’s not edible. So they mark up the bread that’s most likely to remain on the shelf anyway and it becomes tax deductible when they donate it to a local charity. They get their pretty bread wall that sells out two days a week and they get to write off their losses.

But if they don’t donate the bread, it’s not deductible. And if you let employees take enough extra bread, they stop buying as much on their lunch breaks and you start getting empty bags arriving at local soup kitchens, which is a bad look and can jeopardize the arrangement.

Tfw you're too poor to buy food and too rich to get it for free 😔

I work at a chain bakery and it's the same. Every day there's so many sweet + savoury goods left over and they just get thrown away. It used to be allowed that you could just take them home but that got banned for...no particular reason. The managers at the place I work are really nice but I guess they're sticklers for the rules as they don't ignore it-which I don't blame as apparently the loss prevention team already installed a secret camera in there (they came in overnight!) because people kept messing up the tills and they think people are stealing money. Plus I guess if they don't get enough food waste they get suspicious. It's a load of shit...

I almost got fired for enacting a plan to share our limited parking spots during covid. Fucking idiots couldn’t see the forest for the trees.

For my first job I worked at a rural gas station pumping gas. It was a full service gas station which was rare in my area. I mean, it still is, but it was back then too. Anyway, I was only 15 at the time, which was technically underage, but I was paid under the table anyway. My sister worked as a cashier at that gas station and was the one who got me the job. I mostly worked when she did, though I would work with other cashiers on occasion. My sister ended up getting another job and basically ghosted the gas station. The owner basically fired me because of this, he didn't want any other family members working for him. I don't think he ever liked me to begin with, so I think it was just an excuse to get rid of me. He was in the process of selling the store anyway, which happened not long after I got fired, so I would've lost the job anyway.

I got fired from my role at the orange juice factory.

I couldn't concentrate.

Failure to show up. I got a job out of the city that would put me up for the summer and straight up forgot to tell my boss. Should have paid me better if you didn't want me to leave shrug-outta-hecks

I'm sorry, that is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.

I've always managed to leave my career jobs before shit hit the fan, but I did get asked to not come back to one of my college tutoring gigs because I told the kid's dad I didn't like the IP phones he had installed on campus.

Help desk for a tech company (hourly, not salary). They wanted me to be on the on call rotation for systems I wasn’t qualified to oversee, and not pay me extra during the on call shifts. It was at that moment I stopped giving a fuck about that job and productivity and project completion both dropped off. Was justifiably fired a few months later.

Never ever work for a company for free.

Because the owner had lent fruit to his sons failed smoothie business that was several hundred thousands in debt.

I got hired the next day in his wifes business. Doing the exact same thing. Missed a month of pay. Dumb pig

I just got fired mainly because of shortage of work but also because of concentration disorders and not ending errors in my work due to my depression/ptsd... Feels weird...

End of April this year, literally asked another teams manager if they needed help but I didn’t want to handle users if they could help it. They took it the wrong way (???) and their manager brought in my manager and I was termed for being “unprofessional”. Almost 6 years with this org. New job is so much better with a pay bump on top of it.