Texas plane, 300 migrants land in Rockford; 8 buses in route to Chicago drop off migrants in suburbs

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Texas plane, 300 migrants land in Rockford; 8 buses in route to Chicago drop off migrants in suburbs
abc7chicago.com

ROCKFORD, Ill. (WLS) -- Eight migrant buses were in route to Chicago Sunday morning after a plane from Texas carrying over 300 asylum seekers landed in Rockford overnight.

The migrants were flown from Texas to Illinois in a jumbo jet, landing at Rockford International Airport, Rockford ABC affiliate WTVO reported.

The migrant crisis Chicago has been grappling with has once again made its way to the suburbs.

After the plane landed, the passengers were reportedly immediately put on buses heading to Chicago's landing zone near West Polk Street and South Desplaines Street.

The City of Chicago issued a statement Sunday afternoon, saying that city officials had been notified by Rockford of the plane's arrival. Eight buses from Rockford have dropped off migrants in multiple suburbs on the way to Chicago, but they have not yet reached Chicago, city officials said.

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Seems Texas migrant policy really is the homeless episode of South Park. Thankfully Chicago thought to actually do something useful when they were informed they were coming, and didn't just send the buses to Denver.

That's also how small conservative towns and churches in Texas handle their homeless. They put them on busses and send them to the larger cities in Texas.

Which wasn't this literally just debated as human trafficking violations with DeSantis and Florida (or maybe TX idek anymore)..

Yeah, one one hand, I don't get how this isn't straight-up human trafficking. On the other hand, I have a feeling Chicago and New York and all those other places are helping these people in a much more compassionate manner than they would have been handled in Texas, so there's at least that. I don't know what a good answer is to the whole situation, but at the moment, asylum seekers are getting better help than if they were thrown in Texas border cages.

It's such a catch-22

If you're homeless and not receiving any housing assistance anywhere. Then, the warmer climate of Texas would be preferable for Winter. But we see how it's going so...

A little bit of human trafficking just to rile your base is never a bad thing, eh?

Maybe we need actual immigration handling? Like great big loads to judges and social welfare agents. Get all immigrants processed, setup with housing, and a supportive community within a short period of time.

Do the same for Americans. Throw in a UBI, health care, and life skill coaching.

But then who will work for poverty wages picking fruits

Maybe we shouldn't do that.

But then useful idiots will complain prices will go up.

They never consider that profits may go down.

Maybe we should point that out.

Every time a company is mentioned, print the profits and layoffs over the year?

Cause the profits cant decrease, they have to increase exponentially forever and ever.

Why isn't this considered kidnapping?

Because it's being done by politicians, who are apparently above the law.

It is pretty sick to play around with real human lives like this.

yeah, they should all stay in Texas, right

Or maybe we should give these people a choice in where they go?

This is just throwing them around like a football.

When you put it that way, we should be applauding how much they're helping the immigrants get out of Texas.

Texas does have a more developed system for handling asylum seekers, so yeah.

Does it? Seems like they system boils down to:

Put them in cages Ship them to another city/state Kill them Use them as cheap disposable labor

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When are we going to start seeing criminal prosecution for these antics? They are coercing these immigrants onto a bus and giving them no idea where they'll wind up- seems like a textbook case of kidnapping. Maybe start slapping some of the politicians with felonies and this will stop.

Hey since the border officials in those other states aren't doing their jobs, we should stop paying them and give their money to their victims

I was thinking, this is so obviously a stunt by Abbott to get the blue states to bitch about immigration. Why don’t these blue state reps say, hey, we get it. It’s a financial burden to house immigrants. Why don’t we all lighten the load and skim $1b off the defense budget?

Why won’t they?

Well…I guess it’s because theyre all neoliberal fuckwits that love that defense budget like it’s 2001.

And I don’t think this is because border officials aren’t doing their jobs. Their jobs isn’t to bash and deter, but wrangle once someone new comes in. Americans love paperwork.

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Can we stop pretending that Texas is still a state please?

What does this even mean?

To combat this we’ll need to live in reality. This has a “not my president” tinge to it.

It means they get to be a state when they fucking act like it. America should secede from them. Enough is enough.

I don't think the answer is secession, tbh.

The answer isn’t secession, it’s dismissal.

Can you stop spouting misinformation claiming it isn't?

Why are refugees and illegal immigrants a state responsibility?

Shouldn't it be handled federally? Why is there no department for handling this sort of thing instead of Texas having supreme decision making in their fates?

Why is there no department for handling this sort of thing instead of Texas having supreme decision making in their fates?

The federal government gives a lot of money to Texas for exactly this. The federal government basically goes “eh, it’s not worth it for us to try to do, since the state will be able to respond more agilely than the feds. So we’ll give them the money we would spend, and let them figure it out.”

The issue is that Greg Abbott is a greedy little man child who wants m̶̡̢̢̻̝͓̩̗̜̰͙̣͔͚̯̮̮̭͍̒͂̃̉̂́̏͒̇͐́͜͜͝ͅǫ̵̨̡̡̧̥̭̻̣̗͈̳͖͚͚̩͍̹̝̗̰̜̜͙͇͐͐̍́́̽͆͗̇͗̔̚̚͝͝͠r̷̨̦̭͔̲̖̠͍͓̞̺̗̺̼͉̓̿̊̌̈́͆̎̃̄̍͂͜͜ͅȩ̵̡̢̫̳͎͕͙̻͙͈̩͕̰̳͚͚̝͍̲̠̟̫͖̮̖̞͉̾̑͆͆͜ money.

The federal government doesn't have the rights to run said programs I would assume. A good example is FEMA. When a hurricane comes in FEMA cannot just go into a state and start doing what is needed, it violates the states rights. So FEMA has to follow the orders of the state and drop supplies and aid wherever directed by the state. A good example of this falling apart was when FEMA shipped aid to Puerto Rico after hurricane Maria I think it was. There was not a good system of distribution set up and FEMA had no rights to take over in said actions. So a lot of water and other supplies quite literally got piled up on the side of runways and left there for months and months while the people needed it.

This is a problem no one actually wants to fix, all political sides and their corporate owners benefit from a massive influx of migrants illegal or otherwise. The only people paying the price is the working class, which the ruling class has no problems shitting all over.

"Illegal" immigrants depress wages, especially when you strip them of rights.

Those illegals are going to come here and take all the jobs we didn't want to do!

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Yeah, but when I sneak a bunch of illegal immigrants into the country it's "hUmAn TrAfFiCkInG¡".

Could anyone with academic or professionally relevant expertise explain how this is legal? I’m confused on what grounds and how a state could interfere with immigration, which is a federal issue, much less interstate transportation (another federal purview) actions regarding it.

Is the Biden administration just not enforcing the federal jurisdiction and allowing it by ignoring them violating the constitution? Or is it there're no laws around this even though the constitution doesn’t allow states to do this? Whatever the reason, I’m utterly confused about why it is being tolerated.

Nice to see that Texas and Florida are competing for the worst state.

Republicans: there's never any money to help people, but there's always money for racism.

You know this is going to back fire on Texas, states might require permits or taxes to travel to and from a state.

They can't. several supreme court cases already give aeright to travel. Immigration belongs to the federal government

Somebody should explain that to all the Texas towns trying to ban traveling out of state for an abortion.

Just put toll booths in at the border to Illinois from all directions. It's almost impossible to travel across the u.s. without going through Illinois or going way out of your way to avoid it.

I've been all over the US and pretty sure I've never been in or through Illinois with exception to flights. I think you're greatly overestimating the size of Illinois and underestimating available options of US driving travel.

If you want to go around you'll have to drive through Kentucky or through the Michigan UP Mackinaw bridge or through Canada. There's a lot of freight that goes through Illinois as well as coming in/going out from ORD.

Tons of freight moves along i40 as well. It never approaches Illinois. You might be familiar with the traversal lanes up there, but there are several main thoroughfares south of there. 40, 20 and 10 all have tons of e/w traffic. All are south of Illinois. It's not that hard to avoid one medium sized state.

That would be pretty unconstitutional.

bans travel to other states for an abortion

having busses travel from other states is unconstitutional

Pick a lane

Banning travel to other states for an abortion is also very clearly unconstitutional. There are still pretty big differences between restricting travel from specific states for something that is completely legal (driving a bus) and restricting your citizens from going outside your state to do something that is illegal in your state (abortion). One is a matter of jurisdiction while the other is a matter of travel restriction.

I'm not sure whether that would be a feasible solution. The undocumented part of "undocumented immgrant" is a result of immigrants bypassing a similar system when entering the country.

"Hey let's find a solution to our broken immigration system"

Texas: "nope send dem to dem LiBeRaLs"

"Wow Texas youre so smart, you're totally not trafficking people like the cartels"

They should just secede and become a desert version of North korea.

Edit:corrected

They should just succeed and become a desert version of North korea.

Do you mean secede?

What?

You know this is going to back fire on Texas, states might require permits or taxes to travel to and from a state.

I'm just waiting for the /s

Ha-ha.

As I understand it, this is a suggestion that it would be okay for states to take blatantly unconstitutional action in retribution for the likely criminal acts of the Texas state government. I’m hoping that I’m wrong, because that’s nuts.

blatantly unconstitutional action

In this economy? Surely no one would do that, lest they face the consequences.

Consequences.

Consequences... why does that word seem so strange now?

Consequences... why does that word seem so strange now?

We are most certainly like-minded in that regard.

If unconstitutional action is something that Democrats and Republicans see as necessary, authoritarianism has won, and everyone/everything else has lost.

Meh, it's a comment from an anonymous rando on the Internet. I'm a lot more concerned with the fact that the state of Texas is in the human trafficking business than OP's comment.

A huge problem with this is that asylum seekers can't work till they're granted asylum. I have no problem with Texas sending migrants to other parts of the country as long as they want to go wherever they are going and it's not all to one small place. Like they can't take all asylum seekers in all of Texas and send them to NYC. But if those people can't work then that's a big issue.

I'm setting the bar at not making it worse, because the other guy definitely would make it worse.

I'm all for spreading the load of handling these migrants around the country, Texas cities shouldn't have to do all the work and they certainly cannot do much of the work without government support in TX.

So... now we have migrants all over the country but are they expected to return to TX for their immigration hearings? The US govt. needs to figure this shit out ASAP and have the hearings transferred to where these people are.

There already is a process to allow immigrants to spread around the country, what Texas is doing is delaying and circumventing that process, making it take longer and cost more. I say send Texas the bill for their nonsense.

are they expected to return to TX for their immigration hearings? The US govt. needs to figure this shit out ASAP and have the hearings transferred to where these people are.

The shitshow is the plan when they're bussing migrants around, usually some local lawyer steps up to help though.

I'm sure Texas would love to have a federal department take charge and handle all the immigration within their borders. The feds should offer to take the work off their hands.

Rockford is nicer than Chicago anyway

texas did not do this it was done by their politicians there and the politicians in washington dc are as silent as ever

not all citizens in a state are actively and able to call any shots let alone this one and vilifying and singling people of a state out because "they chose" all the bad in their state is ludicrous some do not even have voting rights and some states ignore votes and things voted on such as Ohio

maybe our president should at least say something but the most he will do with this is say vote for me see how bad republicans are all while people are suffering

So you're saying the only way to stop Texas from being a shithole is to not vote for Biden?

Nah, they're just saying Biden is going to be silent. The "not Biden" choice won't be silent, but in the other direction. This author is right to call out the inaction of Biden, because that is the situation.

I’m glad they are going to a sanctuary city.

I see. Human trafficking is okay if it gets people you don't like out of your hair. Noted.

My understanding is that Chicago welcomes illegal immigrants. Why would you not want them to go to a place where they are welcomed?

Chicago welcomes women and children too, should I round up a bunch in my local area and forcibly transit them under false pretenses as a smug political stunt?

My understanding is it doesn't matter if the place you're being trafficked to welcomes you for it to be human trafficking.

But, again, you seem to think there are situations where human trafficking is acceptable, those situations apparently being 'I don't like those people.'

migrants are welcome in AMERICA, maybe you sure try acting like an American.

I’m glad all you fascists are outing yourselves for when the time comes ❤️

I clicked on your post history and all I can understand is that you’ve very angry about a lot of things. Do you live in a state that allows weed? You might try weed.

Rockford is not even remotely close to Chicago.

Yeah, but if you ask someone from Rockford where they're from they will say "Chicago."

Thats true of literally everyone that lives in areas surrounding a world famous city. Sanfran, LA, New york, DC, Orlando.

The fifteenth time you've explained the difference between bothel and seattle, you start to just say seattle since you're saying "its near seattle" to explain where it is anyways.

Yeah but Rockford is 100 miles away from Chicago. It's not even close to suburbs, its in a separate metropolitan statistical area from Chicago's massive zone. It's like saying you are from LA when you live in San Diego.

I live in NY and constantly have to try and explain, no, not the city, no where near the city, New York State has places like 8 hours away by car from NYC.

…because you and your ilk have repeatedly shown open hostility towards desperate people, and now there’s people who will show them compassion?

I’ll agree that immigration is broken and needs overhaul (especially for green cards & visas) but throwing a shit fit and using humans as political props is not helping.

Seriously, give them more! It's what those cities want!

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