I am a middle aged white guy and I honestly don't give a shit about the Beatles lol
They have maybe 4 or 5 songs I actually like and I've always said they were overrated
That's because the Beatles broke up in 1970, so anyone who remembers them from their active years is well over 60, which would be really stretching the definition of middle-aged
I'm 42 and I grew up surrounded by people my own age who were Beatles fanatics lol people actually kept listening to them long after they broke up
38 here. I absolutely love the Beatles. I didn’t like their earlier stuff when I was younger but I’ve worked my way backwards from Help as I’ve got older.
I love all of it.
Hello there
It definitely is. I think the person who made this meme might be middle-aged by now.
How about beetles? Wanna discuss beetles?
Yeah, I'm still pissed they made bumblebee a Camaro.
Me too!
What car was he supposed to be?
I think my favorite Beatles fact is they were being taxed at like a 90+% rate and didn't even know for a couple years.
When they found out and took it to court the judge basically said "you were making so much money you didn't even realize you were being taxed at all. Sucks to suck we're gonna keep taxing you at the same rate"
Based Judge is based
1,2,3,4,1,2,cough,3,4
Am I the only on here that actually likes the Beatles? They're catchy and familiar, not to mention have some weird and whacky unusual stuff like Revolution 9. Also found the conspiracy theory fun to dive into.
Obviously music is extremely subjective but you can't tell me that their music was not objectively a massive deal, at least historically.
I also love that their music was essentially mostly all written, composed, produced, and edited by the 4 of them. Nowadays I'm told about how _____ is such a great musician, then I look at the album credits and there's like 20 song writers, 50 producers, 100+ sound mixers, crew, editors, etc. So like are those people that good if they need 200+ people behind them making it listenable?
I guess what I'm saying is that new music is over produced, and I appreciate the simplicity of older music like the Beatles
I love the Beatles. I guess I am a middle aged white guy now, but they’ve been my favorite band since I was a kid.
There's nothing wrong with their music. It's not what I listen to, but I don't dislike them.
I don't mind them. I think if you listen to them through the lens of being one of the first bands of their kind, their appeal makes far more sense.
As a story, the way they honed their craft is very interesting. While I doubt it's all "hard work", they're a good example of how practice makes perfect.
I like them, they were a pretty important foundation for my taste in music. I didn't really get the hatred of them that seems popular of late, I can't help but feel like at least some of that is just people following the trend, but it doesn't change my enjoyment of it.
Their influence was so far reaching. Even if you aren't a Beatles fan, odds are that someone you listen to is one and hugely influenced by them. Kind of like that saying I've heard about Neil peart. "If your favorite drummer is someone other than peart, their favorite drummer is probably peart"
Psych rock existed outside the Beatles. They're a pop band. Meh.
Does them being popular somehow make them worse? I don't understand this take... What's wrong with liking what you like, without regard to what others like, either way?
the OP meme is that boomers lose their shit if you don't have the same opinion as them. That's the whole point.
Hating any music is weird, as hate takes vastly more effort than indifference.
Hating specifically anything of comparable acclaim as the Beatles is, frankly, just contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism.
If you didn't like them you just wouldn't like them, but what you actually like is not liking them as a factor of your personality.
It's possible to hate something without being active about it. Saying "I hate lima beans" doesn't necessarily mean you're going on a hate campaign against lima beans, it just means you have a strong distaste for them. It's a valid feeling regardless of how many others love lima beans. In fact, lots of other people loving something and talking about it nonstop and calling it the best thing ever will obviously mean someone who hates that thing will get annoyed hearing about something they hate, so it's fine to express that distaste.
My guy, are we just going to entirely ignore the context of this literally being a comment in a "look at me I'm so different for not liking the Beatles" post? Yeah, what you're saying may be true, but we're talking about somebody who literally is making a campaign out of their disdain. Context and nuance people, Jesus Christ.
How is that any worse than making a post saying "I love the Beatles"? In fact, the post is getting proven correct where a simple singular post attracts so many responses.
How is that any worse than making a post saying “I love the Beatles”?
The point is hatred is its own kind of fandom, as both camps center around the thing.
My point is that they are the same thing, and thus methinks the lady doth protest too much.
The Beatles are so ubiquitous and generally acclaimed though, you don't really have to go out of your way to encounter their music or artifice of their cultural legacy. If people always want to argue with you about it, or are obstinate when you would like to listen to something else? Then I can see pretty easily how someone's distaste for them could grow over time until they would describe it as hate.
Hating any music is weird, as hate takes vastly more effort than indifference.
As someone who lived with asshole neighbors who loved to make parties with loud music that would go from 4pm to 3am, sometimes during the fucking week, sometimes putting the extra loud music for no other reason than because they want to, other times just to go over the other's music, hating certain types of music isn't weird and doesn't require effort. In no time, those music types become deeply associated with the worst type of annoying assholes
I dunno, if every time I hear a band it feels like nails on a chalkboard to my very soul, I think saying I hate them is perfectly valid without requiring any actual effort beyond trying to get that music to stop while I can hear them and wanting to discontinue conversation about them
Hate doesn't have to be any more active than avoidance
Indifference, on the other hand, implies not caring that the music is playing
Did you just suggest that anyone who claims to dislike the Beatles is lying just to be difficult? Believe it or not it is actually possible to dislike things, even critically acclaimed popular things, beyond the point of indifference. Honestly your statement is what sounds like pure contrarianism meant to stir up drama lol
No, I'm claiming hating the Beatles is a choice. Hate is active. People who dislike things don't waste their time thinking about how much they dislike them and telling people proudly how much they dislike them, they just move on.
In fact, I'm pretty luke-warm on the Beatles as a whole (though I can certainly appreciate their songwriting and understand their massive popularity). The point is hatred is its own kind of fandom, as both camps center around the thing. I don't bring up the Beatles because I don't have many opinions on them; that's vastly more passive than this person proudly declaring their dislike for Popular Thing™
Doing literally anything besides just existing and breathing the air each day is "a choice". That doesn't mean people only do things just to annoy you...
disliking =/= hating
i dislike most rap music, which means i don't actively look for that genre of music to listen to it, but i won't burst into flames if a friend of mine puts some rap in the queue at the party, and i won't complain about it (unless they've been hogging the queue with non stop 3h of rap, then i will complain)
i hate dishonesty and manipulation, if i spot it i'll instantly feel a surge of intense negative emotions and a strong repulsion to whoever was dishonest or manipulative (relative to the offence of course, lying about eating the snack i was saving vs lying about idk being faithful don't prompt the same reaction)
i don't think you can really hate any genre of music or particular band, as the other person said, proclaiming yourself a "hater" of a popular genre or group is just contrarianism for contrarianism's sake, 5 years down the line it'll stop being cool to hate on that music and that's when you stop "hating" them
"Taxman" was influential in the development of British psychedelia and mod-style pop, and has been recognised as a precursor to punk rock. When performing "Taxman" on tour in the early 1990s, Harrison adapted the lyrics to reference contemporaneous leaders, citing its enduring quality beyond the 1960s. The song's impact has extended to the tax industry and into political discourse on taxation.
Unlike their other political songs, which are fairly vague peace&love jobs, this one tackles a concrete issue: It protests the 95% top marginal tax rate.
You've heard how "the boomers" screwed up everything for later generations. Here's exhibit A from pop culture. Don't just think about evil, old men in smoky backrooms.
Well now I actively hate them instead of just not caring for their music, which i find to be ok
The Kinks were punker than The Beatles ever were. This is some bullshit.
I used to work with a lot of young people and some of them told me they hated the Beatles.
So I would randomly play Beatles songs and occasionally ask them what they thought.
Turns out they never even listened to the Beatles except for maybe a couple of pop/radio songs.
It was just a fad to hate on them
That is not surprising to me in the slightest. Honestly I just posted this because I knew it would lead to a discussion I'd love to read. People have such strong feelings on music.
As one of the "young" people at least when it comes to the Beatles, I don't hate the Beatles but I absolutely don't get the hype living decades after their big run. A few songs are annoying because of overplaying. That colors the band to a lot of people my age. I find them mostly boring and seeing the hype at the time is wild, but so will the people 20 years from now for my music. When people feel like it's over hyped then they "hate" it. I find most of the Beatles music as inoffensive and a little boring. Don't hate it but don't care for it. I think most haters probably feel similar but being controversial makes the conversation more interesting.
It's like them wearing bands t-shirts without hearing any of their songs.
Hate is a strong word. I just prefer to listen to other stuff. I understand how they were culturally significant half a century ago, but that’s half a century ago.
Totally understand that perspective!
I would say they they are still culturally significant. Just not quite to the extent they once were.
Especially considering how much of today's culture can draw a direct line to their influence even now
I don't hate them. I just don't listen to their music. It's not my taste. I do appreciate their significance and popularity, though. I just don't really enjoy their music.
Same judging jug faces, in my experience. Not liking the Beatles is unfathomable to a lot of people.
It should be fathomable to those people. We are human and have different interests.
middle aged? lmao the average baked in Beatles fan is Ike 80 now.
GenX here that would fit “middle aged” and I don’t care about the Beatles. Yeah, they’ve got some good songs, but as a group or needing to have all their songs? Nah. Whatever.
The original ones. They are still popular among Gen X and Millenials. Personally, I never like the Beatles. I don't hate them, but I find their music slightly annoying.
I'm no Beatles fan, but Eleanor Rigby goes hard
My favorite song of theirs is While My Guitar Gently Weeps
But I still think The Kinks are better
Funny, I love the Beatles but that's one song from them I don't really care for. I want to like it but it somehow manages to be one of my least favorite Beatles songs and Clapton solos. Love the kinks too though
Edit: I definitely don't hate while my guitar gently weeps, or even dislike it. It's a good song. But if you ask me the Beatles have at least a couple dozen better ones
Fuck Yellow Submarine.
A lot of the rest is pretty good by any estimation.
I'll always associate Beatles music with corporate sound tracks. That's where I first heard most of them, some ad or another.
White Middle aged Gen X'er here... Can't stand the Beetles...
I haven't really listened to their music, but I recognise its significance to recent history.
Middle-age would be in your 40s-50s. Not to diss my dead relatives too hard, but you're thinking of old fucks that would have any solid opinion on that. In a handful of years, the music middle aged men will be up in arms about is *NSYNC.
I actually wasn't thinking about it at all. I was thinking about bugs!
The Beatles were popular 50-60 years ago.
Even if they listened to it when they were 10, they are about to retire in a couple of years.
Nothing middle aged about it.
The Beatles have been one of the most popular bands in the world consistently every year from the 60s right up until today lol how do so many people think everyone immediately stops listening to any band the second they break up lol
What age do you consider middle aged?
40s if you're in the US, that is quite literally the midpoint of the average human lifespan here
Mid 40's guy here - the last Beatles album was released 9 years before I was born and their last concert was 10 years before I was born. I agree that popular bands don't stop having fans the moment they break up but there's 20 years between when they broke up and when my peers started to have their own mususical preferences.
But that's far from retirement...?
Right. Middle aged ≠ retirement age
Yes, I agree. I was referring to @honytawk@lemmy.zip's statement that the middle aged people were about to retire in a couple of years.
Why hate them? What did they do to you?
Fucked their mom
Calm down Julian.
Beetles are a shitpost
Change my mind
The same boomers when you say bands playing at 400bpm are expressing emotions and working harder than the guy bending to the blues note slowly for the millionth time.
It's got no soul! How can you refine yourself through hours of practice and technique and dedication and also express yourself at the same time???
Also let's not even talk about those hippity hoppers
I wouldn't say one is necessarily working harder than the other. They're just doing different things.
really now. why don't you try to play AUM by Archspire and compare how much dedication and effort that takes compared to playing Detroit Rock City
I'm sure the bendy boomer zillionaires were just as dedicated as the impoverished canadians that risk bankrupcy whenever they tour.
get back to me when you realise that it's going to take you about 15 mins to play detroit rock city, but probably a year to learn how to play AUM.
I know whatever musicians were playing that faster track put countless hours into learning to play their style, but so does every other professional musician. That to me sounds like complete garbage, just as I'm sure slower lyrical music sounds like garbage to you.
Different kinds of musicians spend their time improving different aspects of their playing. Some of it you will appreciate, and some you won't. You don't have to be an elitist about it and pretend your favorite genre is the only one that requires any skill to perform well. Most people simply don't care how fast you can play those technical passages that are so distorted they sound like white noise to the average person. They would rather perfect their tone and style.
Just want to say I entirely agree with you and that I'm really not sure why the other person doesn't get it. Any musician knows tone/timbre is really important. I play the violin; you can play really fast and that takes skill, but there's also a hell of a lot of skill involved in getting a nice sound out of a sustained note.
I know whatever musicians were playing that faster track put countless hours into learning to play their style, but so does every other professional musician. That to me sounds like complete garbage, just as I’m sure slower lyrical music sounds like garbage to you.
I see excuses, not bleeding fingers. For real. Go try it. Come back to me later when you fucking manageto play that music. Or just admit you're wrong.
You don’t have to be an elitist about it and pretend your favorite genre is the only one that requires any skill to perform well.
It's almost as if me and OP are trying to do this about the boomers and their favourite genre/band.
They would rather perfect their tone and style.
Why do you feel the faster music has trash tone? Isn't it all just opinions maan?
If you don't like heavy metal, sure. Let me get a different example for you.
The whole idea is that when boomers shit on music that's over 100 BPM, they're assholes. You want to come to that idea and say that "um akshually, the boomers are right, music is about "FEELING" and "TOAN" and your guys are too fast and the tone is too scary? I compared it to Kiss, your great granddad probably would probably shit himself if he heard the devil sounds coming out of ace frehley's amp.
Defending rock TOAN is not where you want to be. It's basically over, boomers are dead and Tim killed them with his "Boomer bends" comment.
I don't know quite why you seem to be so hostile to the blues, or anyone that wants to defend the skill of the musicians that play it. If you want to see a skilled blues guitarist doing all the twiddly bits, then I'll happily point you in the direction of Gary Moore, or blues-adjacent Steve Vai.
His sound was not over-processed. It was very, very basic. It basically was a guitar, an amp, a fuzz box and his hands. I remember seeing him in Copenhagen in 1984 or 1985. We were recording Master of Puppets. He was playing a Strat, which is known for a clear, somewhat thin sound. But the sound he was getting out of that Strat was so thick and so full and just so raw. This was before you had all these guitar processors that could make the cheapest guitar sound like the most expensive guitar, so I kinda deduced that most of the sound was in his hands.
I don’t know quite why you seem to be so hostile to the blues, or anyone that wants to defend the skill of the musicians that play it.
It's not about being hostile to the blues, it's about counteracting the bs the blues boomers spew about technical music not having expression.
The theme of the comment chain and the meme is that boomers are closed minded. I'm sick of them putting my tastes down.
I don't even play the guitar, but if we're challenging each other to play each other's instruments, then so be it. Come back to me when you can play with this guy's tone quality and phrasing. You'll notice its a little harder than it looks.
Why do you think someone would go to the trouble of drilling 2 extra holes in each of these containers?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
For two of your closest mates?
;)
That's a good question! I am also interested.
My first thought was that it might aid in draining them as an air hole, to stop it from going glub blub, especially if they contained something really viscous like honey or oil, but then why not just one air hole, and why not higher up?
My second thought was that maybe someone just intended to make them look like faces for some reason.
I'm going for b)
in/out hydroponic pipe feeds and the original hole to top it up? But there's a lot of them.
They're severely overrated, but also quite culturally/historically relevant. So... what can ya do?
They are extremely relevant, culturally and historically. They broke new grounds for music, and a lot of today's music would simply not exist without the Beatles, or some of their contemporaries. That alone means they're not overrated.
However that doesn't mean everyone has to love them. It's possible to recognise their relevance without worshipping them.
I mean honestly, wtf do I know. Most people would hate a good portion of my music library. This is all subjective.
I think this is a case of the Seinfeld effect where people take them for granted due to them being so influential that part of their sound has become imbued into every single pop band that came after them.
Yeah, there are any number of "But so-and-so did it so much better than the Beatles!" instances, but the thing is that so-and-so wouldn't have even tried if the Beatles hadn't done it first.
Take or leave their music, there's no denying the massive influence they had.
It's like how Elvis improved the sandwich market forever with his invention.
I'm not proposing we do anything. I think they deserve their fame.
We could send Japanese women to individually destroy their careers.
Sounds like a bunch of work tho
They're all trained saboteurs, they need little to no guidance. Get this... we use performance artists. Success is guaranteed!
the word overrated means nothing and is used by cowards to try to discourage enthusiasm for things they can never comprehend.. it needs to be burnt on a word pyre.. it's impossible to overrate The Beatles, only a figment of the Matrix would think that..
I'll rephrase:
I think the Beatles are not nearly as good or enjoyable as many people suggest, and I'm not afraid to say it.
Such edge
They also had stupid haircuts.
Even more super edge and such a hilarious and charming gif worthy of repeating
not nearly as good or enjoyable as many people suggest
you just reiterated your disdain for enthusiasm and nothing more, demonstrating how meaningless the word is.. you are a chatbot..
Thanks Dwight.
You sound like you're highly overrated by yourself.
you sound scared to have an opinion
Of what, exactly? People are allowed to be as enthusiastic about The Beatles as they want. I'm a big fan of their music myself.
Your comment, on the other hand? That was self-important edgelord nonsense lol
you're afraid someone will use the word overrated on your enthusiasm.. also, you continue to demonstrate my point by trying to attack me personally.. it's what a coward does..
That makes even less sense than your FIRST bit of nonsense 😄
do your best, i don't expect much from Vikings or hippies
So I guess UNDERrating IS possible in the weird little universe you've built for yourself 🤷
You sound like a very articulate 13 year old lol
so, i sound like a human.. you sound like beep boop..
you sound like beep boop..
beep boop? BEEP BOOP?!?!?
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That really hurts my feelings 😭😭😭
I will be haunted by your harsh words for many a sleepless night 👻😱👻😱👻😱
It looks like I might have lost some fake internet points too!!! 😰😰😰😰
#OH MY GOD!!!
the trauma is too much... I'm going to be sick with fear!!! 🤢🤢🤢🤮
I like The Beatles, I do not like John Lennon
John Lennon was always my favorite
The more I learn about him... The less I like him...
Pretty much, when I first heard the song Imagine, it sounded so.... "Phoney" to me...
And the more I learned about him, the more justified I feel
Just as an interesting point, not to make any judgement,
You aren't the only one who thought exactly that.
"During the case, when asked why he chose to kill John Lennon, Chapman stated “because he was famous”. Chapman later claimed that he believed Holden Caulfied would have killed John Lennon because he was a “phony”."
Oddly enough to more I hear about Yoko Ono the more I like her. Especially how she loved The Rutles.
Hate the Beatles all you want. You just can’t hate the Stones.
The stones still do shows. The Beatles do not.
Shots fired.
One beatle at least still does shows... At least, last I heard Paul was still touring, maybe he's retired by now though
I'll bet there are more stones than species of beetle
Types of stone or instances of stone?
Individual stones
Ok, let’s start counting.
I'll take the left side, you go right. We'll meet in the middle. Go!
Ok, I’m done. I counted 4.
Maybe try again? I've found 456,734 so far.
I forgot to mention that I’m really lazy.
I'm beginning to think that you might not be right for this project.. Have you considered pivoting to body design at Porsche?
Don't change a winning formula.
True, inspired laziness can often be highly effective 😁
Don't underestimate the number of beatle species. If I remember correctly, 3/4 of insect species and 2/3 of animal species are beatles
Yes, there are around 400 000 species of beetle
If you really want to scandalize them, say this: The Kinks are better than The Beatles
Those cans aren't all white and neither are we - get your ears checked weirdo.
I can't hear you over all the buzzing from their wings!
Jahn beet the wif
I appreciate how o no banana committed to saving the beetles.
100%
They do look a bit like Paul to be fair.
The wall(rus) was Paul.
OPs got the wrong generation. I'm middle aged I fucking hate Beatles. It was my parents music.
Boomer music.
I would like to present a counter argument: maybe the middle aged white men represented by multiethnic cans in this meme are coming out to agree!
I hate The Doors.
Next thing you'll say you hate The Windows as well. I use Arch BTW
Dont worry, youll be one of those guys soon enough
Nah. I'm 46 and have never liked them.
You can appreciate and respect that somebody did something innovative while still not liking that innovative thing.
Maybe not the beatles, but some other band from your youth that the current generation will call overrated.
I grok what you are saying. I just don't feel that way. To me, music is too subjective to expect anyone to like anything, even if I think it is the bee's knees.
Maybe it helps that I have always had fairly 'out there' musical tastes so I am never shocked when someone doesn't like something that I do.
I will? Cool!
I don't hate the Beatles, but I do think they're extremely overrated. There's about three Beatles songs I'd choose to listen to.
Sargent pepper's lonely hearts club band is the second worst song to ever get significant airplay, behind I shot the sheriff, and ahead of You're Beautiful by James Blunt. That one I stand firm on.
Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club band is an intro to an album. It isn’t meant to be played as a standalone song. I have never once listened to the intro track and thought, “Ooh, this is fantastic. One of the greats from the Beatles.” It set the stage for the band to throw away the image the world expected of them as the so called “fab 4” and explore sound while pretending to be people they weren’t.
What you have said here is like watching the opening theme to a television show and then throwing your hands up and saying, “that’s it guys! Second worst tv show ever! Just behind this tv show I actually watched, and just ahead another I actually watched.”
If you’d actually like a chance to be critical of an actual piece of music meant to be consumed on its own from Sgt Pepper, check out A Day in the Life and get back with me.
You should write to the many radio stations that play it as a standalone song, in that case.
I am a middle aged white guy and I honestly don't give a shit about the Beatles lol
They have maybe 4 or 5 songs I actually like and I've always said they were overrated
That's because the Beatles broke up in 1970, so anyone who remembers them from their active years is well over 60, which would be really stretching the definition of middle-aged
I'm 42 and I grew up surrounded by people my own age who were Beatles fanatics lol people actually kept listening to them long after they broke up
38 here. I absolutely love the Beatles. I didn’t like their earlier stuff when I was younger but I’ve worked my way backwards from Help as I’ve got older.
I love all of it.
Hello there
It definitely is. I think the person who made this meme might be middle-aged by now.
How about beetles? Wanna discuss beetles?
Yeah, I'm still pissed they made bumblebee a Camaro.
Me too!
What car was he supposed to be?
I think my favorite Beatles fact is they were being taxed at like a 90+% rate and didn't even know for a couple years.
When they found out and took it to court the judge basically said "you were making so much money you didn't even realize you were being taxed at all. Sucks to suck we're gonna keep taxing you at the same rate"
Based Judge is based
1,2,3,4,1,2,cough,3,4
Am I the only on here that actually likes the Beatles? They're catchy and familiar, not to mention have some weird and whacky unusual stuff like Revolution 9. Also found the conspiracy theory fun to dive into.
Obviously music is extremely subjective but you can't tell me that their music was not objectively a massive deal, at least historically.
I also love that their music was essentially mostly all written, composed, produced, and edited by the 4 of them. Nowadays I'm told about how _____ is such a great musician, then I look at the album credits and there's like 20 song writers, 50 producers, 100+ sound mixers, crew, editors, etc. So like are those people that good if they need 200+ people behind them making it listenable?
I guess what I'm saying is that new music is over produced, and I appreciate the simplicity of older music like the Beatles
I love the Beatles. I guess I am a middle aged white guy now, but they’ve been my favorite band since I was a kid.
There's nothing wrong with their music. It's not what I listen to, but I don't dislike them.
I don't mind them. I think if you listen to them through the lens of being one of the first bands of their kind, their appeal makes far more sense.
As a story, the way they honed their craft is very interesting. While I doubt it's all "hard work", they're a good example of how practice makes perfect.
I like them, they were a pretty important foundation for my taste in music. I didn't really get the hatred of them that seems popular of late, I can't help but feel like at least some of that is just people following the trend, but it doesn't change my enjoyment of it.
Their influence was so far reaching. Even if you aren't a Beatles fan, odds are that someone you listen to is one and hugely influenced by them. Kind of like that saying I've heard about Neil peart. "If your favorite drummer is someone other than peart, their favorite drummer is probably peart"
Psych rock existed outside the Beatles. They're a pop band. Meh.
Does them being popular somehow make them worse? I don't understand this take... What's wrong with liking what you like, without regard to what others like, either way?
the OP meme is that boomers lose their shit if you don't have the same opinion as them. That's the whole point.
Hating any music is weird, as hate takes vastly more effort than indifference.
Hating specifically anything of comparable acclaim as the Beatles is, frankly, just contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism.
If you didn't like them you just wouldn't like them, but what you actually like is not liking them as a factor of your personality.
It's possible to hate something without being active about it. Saying "I hate lima beans" doesn't necessarily mean you're going on a hate campaign against lima beans, it just means you have a strong distaste for them. It's a valid feeling regardless of how many others love lima beans. In fact, lots of other people loving something and talking about it nonstop and calling it the best thing ever will obviously mean someone who hates that thing will get annoyed hearing about something they hate, so it's fine to express that distaste.
My guy, are we just going to entirely ignore the context of this literally being a comment in a "look at me I'm so different for not liking the Beatles" post? Yeah, what you're saying may be true, but we're talking about somebody who literally is making a campaign out of their disdain. Context and nuance people, Jesus Christ.
How is that any worse than making a post saying "I love the Beatles"? In fact, the post is getting proven correct where a simple singular post attracts so many responses.
Yes, I agree. As I said here 10 hours ago:
My point is that they are the same thing, and thus methinks the lady doth protest too much.
The Beatles are so ubiquitous and generally acclaimed though, you don't really have to go out of your way to encounter their music or artifice of their cultural legacy. If people always want to argue with you about it, or are obstinate when you would like to listen to something else? Then I can see pretty easily how someone's distaste for them could grow over time until they would describe it as hate.
As someone who lived with asshole neighbors who loved to make parties with loud music that would go from 4pm to 3am, sometimes during the fucking week, sometimes putting the extra loud music for no other reason than because they want to, other times just to go over the other's music, hating certain types of music isn't weird and doesn't require effort. In no time, those music types become deeply associated with the worst type of annoying assholes
I dunno, if every time I hear a band it feels like nails on a chalkboard to my very soul, I think saying I hate them is perfectly valid without requiring any actual effort beyond trying to get that music to stop while I can hear them and wanting to discontinue conversation about them
Hate doesn't have to be any more active than avoidance
Indifference, on the other hand, implies not caring that the music is playing
Did you just suggest that anyone who claims to dislike the Beatles is lying just to be difficult? Believe it or not it is actually possible to dislike things, even critically acclaimed popular things, beyond the point of indifference. Honestly your statement is what sounds like pure contrarianism meant to stir up drama lol
No, I'm claiming hating the Beatles is a choice. Hate is active. People who dislike things don't waste their time thinking about how much they dislike them and telling people proudly how much they dislike them, they just move on.
In fact, I'm pretty luke-warm on the Beatles as a whole (though I can certainly appreciate their songwriting and understand their massive popularity). The point is hatred is its own kind of fandom, as both camps center around the thing. I don't bring up the Beatles because I don't have many opinions on them; that's vastly more passive than this person proudly declaring their dislike for Popular Thing™
Doing literally anything besides just existing and breathing the air each day is "a choice". That doesn't mean people only do things just to annoy you...
disliking =/= hating
i dislike most rap music, which means i don't actively look for that genre of music to listen to it, but i won't burst into flames if a friend of mine puts some rap in the queue at the party, and i won't complain about it (unless they've been hogging the queue with non stop 3h of rap, then i will complain)
i hate dishonesty and manipulation, if i spot it i'll instantly feel a surge of intense negative emotions and a strong repulsion to whoever was dishonest or manipulative (relative to the offence of course, lying about eating the snack i was saving vs lying about idk being faithful don't prompt the same reaction)
i don't think you can really hate any genre of music or particular band, as the other person said, proclaiming yourself a "hater" of a popular genre or group is just contrarianism for contrarianism's sake, 5 years down the line it'll stop being cool to hate on that music and that's when you stop "hating" them
Trivia (from Wikipedia): "Taxman" from their 1966 album Revolver was the group's first topical song and the first political statement they had made in their music.
Unlike their other political songs, which are fairly vague peace&love jobs, this one tackles a concrete issue: It protests the 95% top marginal tax rate.
You've heard how "the boomers" screwed up everything for later generations. Here's exhibit A from pop culture. Don't just think about evil, old men in smoky backrooms.
Well now I actively hate them instead of just not caring for their music, which i find to be ok
The Kinks were punker than The Beatles ever were. This is some bullshit.
I used to work with a lot of young people and some of them told me they hated the Beatles. So I would randomly play Beatles songs and occasionally ask them what they thought. Turns out they never even listened to the Beatles except for maybe a couple of pop/radio songs. It was just a fad to hate on them
That is not surprising to me in the slightest. Honestly I just posted this because I knew it would lead to a discussion I'd love to read. People have such strong feelings on music.
As one of the "young" people at least when it comes to the Beatles, I don't hate the Beatles but I absolutely don't get the hype living decades after their big run. A few songs are annoying because of overplaying. That colors the band to a lot of people my age. I find them mostly boring and seeing the hype at the time is wild, but so will the people 20 years from now for my music. When people feel like it's over hyped then they "hate" it. I find most of the Beatles music as inoffensive and a little boring. Don't hate it but don't care for it. I think most haters probably feel similar but being controversial makes the conversation more interesting.
It's like them wearing bands t-shirts without hearing any of their songs.
Hate is a strong word. I just prefer to listen to other stuff. I understand how they were culturally significant half a century ago, but that’s half a century ago.
Totally understand that perspective!
I would say they they are still culturally significant. Just not quite to the extent they once were.
Especially considering how much of today's culture can draw a direct line to their influence even now
I don't hate them. I just don't listen to their music. It's not my taste. I do appreciate their significance and popularity, though. I just don't really enjoy their music.
Same judging jug faces, in my experience. Not liking the Beatles is unfathomable to a lot of people.
It should be fathomable to those people. We are human and have different interests.
middle aged? lmao the average baked in Beatles fan is Ike 80 now.
GenX here that would fit “middle aged” and I don’t care about the Beatles. Yeah, they’ve got some good songs, but as a group or needing to have all their songs? Nah. Whatever.
The original ones. They are still popular among Gen X and Millenials. Personally, I never like the Beatles. I don't hate them, but I find their music slightly annoying.
I'm no Beatles fan, but Eleanor Rigby goes hard
My favorite song of theirs is While My Guitar Gently Weeps
But I still think The Kinks are better
Funny, I love the Beatles but that's one song from them I don't really care for. I want to like it but it somehow manages to be one of my least favorite Beatles songs and Clapton solos. Love the kinks too though
Edit: I definitely don't hate while my guitar gently weeps, or even dislike it. It's a good song. But if you ask me the Beatles have at least a couple dozen better ones
Fuck Yellow Submarine.
A lot of the rest is pretty good by any estimation.
I'll always associate Beatles music with corporate sound tracks. That's where I first heard most of them, some ad or another.
White Middle aged Gen X'er here... Can't stand the Beetles...
I haven't really listened to their music, but I recognise its significance to recent history.
Middle-age would be in your 40s-50s. Not to diss my dead relatives too hard, but you're thinking of old fucks that would have any solid opinion on that. In a handful of years, the music middle aged men will be up in arms about is *NSYNC.
I actually wasn't thinking about it at all. I was thinking about bugs!
The Beatles were popular 50-60 years ago.
Even if they listened to it when they were 10, they are about to retire in a couple of years.
Nothing middle aged about it.
The Beatles have been one of the most popular bands in the world consistently every year from the 60s right up until today lol how do so many people think everyone immediately stops listening to any band the second they break up lol
What age do you consider middle aged?
40s if you're in the US, that is quite literally the midpoint of the average human lifespan here
Mid 40's guy here - the last Beatles album was released 9 years before I was born and their last concert was 10 years before I was born. I agree that popular bands don't stop having fans the moment they break up but there's 20 years between when they broke up and when my peers started to have their own mususical preferences.
But that's far from retirement...?
Right. Middle aged ≠ retirement age
Yes, I agree. I was referring to @honytawk@lemmy.zip's statement that the middle aged people were about to retire in a couple of years.
Why hate them? What did they do to you?
Fucked their mom
Calm down Julian.
Beetles are a shitpost
Change my mind
The same boomers when you say bands playing at 400bpm are expressing emotions and working harder than the guy bending to the blues note slowly for the millionth time.
It's got no soul! How can you refine yourself through hours of practice and technique and dedication and also express yourself at the same time???
Also let's not even talk about those hippity hoppers
I wouldn't say one is necessarily working harder than the other. They're just doing different things.
really now. why don't you try to play AUM by Archspire and compare how much dedication and effort that takes compared to playing Detroit Rock City
I'm sure the bendy boomer zillionaires were just as dedicated as the impoverished canadians that risk bankrupcy whenever they tour.
get back to me when you realise that it's going to take you about 15 mins to play detroit rock city, but probably a year to learn how to play AUM.
I know whatever musicians were playing that faster track put countless hours into learning to play their style, but so does every other professional musician. That to me sounds like complete garbage, just as I'm sure slower lyrical music sounds like garbage to you.
Different kinds of musicians spend their time improving different aspects of their playing. Some of it you will appreciate, and some you won't. You don't have to be an elitist about it and pretend your favorite genre is the only one that requires any skill to perform well. Most people simply don't care how fast you can play those technical passages that are so distorted they sound like white noise to the average person. They would rather perfect their tone and style.
Just want to say I entirely agree with you and that I'm really not sure why the other person doesn't get it. Any musician knows tone/timbre is really important. I play the violin; you can play really fast and that takes skill, but there's also a hell of a lot of skill involved in getting a nice sound out of a sustained note.
I see excuses, not bleeding fingers. For real. Go try it. Come back to me later when you fucking manageto play that music. Or just admit you're wrong.
It's almost as if me and OP are trying to do this about the boomers and their favourite genre/band.
Why do you feel the faster music has trash tone? Isn't it all just opinions maan?
If you don't like heavy metal, sure. Let me get a different example for you.
Paganini's Caprice no.24 it has slow passages and faster passages
Or some Chopin
Do you want to bitch about tone for that too?
The whole idea is that when boomers shit on music that's over 100 BPM, they're assholes. You want to come to that idea and say that "um akshually, the boomers are right, music is about "FEELING" and "TOAN" and your guys are too fast and the tone is too scary? I compared it to Kiss, your great granddad probably would probably shit himself if he heard the devil sounds coming out of ace frehley's amp.
Defending rock TOAN is not where you want to be. It's basically over, boomers are dead and Tim killed them with his "Boomer bends" comment.
I don't know quite why you seem to be so hostile to the blues, or anyone that wants to defend the skill of the musicians that play it. If you want to see a skilled blues guitarist doing all the twiddly bits, then I'll happily point you in the direction of Gary Moore, or blues-adjacent Steve Vai.
And if you're a metal fan, then maybe you'll find Metallica's respect for Gary Moore persuasive.
It's not about being hostile to the blues, it's about counteracting the bs the blues boomers spew about technical music not having expression.
The theme of the comment chain and the meme is that boomers are closed minded. I'm sick of them putting my tastes down.
I don't even play the guitar, but if we're challenging each other to play each other's instruments, then so be it. Come back to me when you can play with this guy's tone quality and phrasing. You'll notice its a little harder than it looks.
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Chopin
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Why do you think someone would go to the trouble of drilling 2 extra holes in each of these containers?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
For two of your closest mates?
;)
That's a good question! I am also interested.
My first thought was that it might aid in draining them as an air hole, to stop it from going glub blub, especially if they contained something really viscous like honey or oil, but then why not just one air hole, and why not higher up?
My second thought was that maybe someone just intended to make them look like faces for some reason.
I'm going for b)
in/out hydroponic pipe feeds and the original hole to top it up? But there's a lot of them.
They're severely overrated, but also quite culturally/historically relevant. So... what can ya do?
They are extremely relevant, culturally and historically. They broke new grounds for music, and a lot of today's music would simply not exist without the Beatles, or some of their contemporaries. That alone means they're not overrated.
However that doesn't mean everyone has to love them. It's possible to recognise their relevance without worshipping them.
I mean honestly, wtf do I know. Most people would hate a good portion of my music library. This is all subjective.
I think this is a case of the Seinfeld effect where people take them for granted due to them being so influential that part of their sound has become imbued into every single pop band that came after them.
Yeah, there are any number of "But so-and-so did it so much better than the Beatles!" instances, but the thing is that so-and-so wouldn't have even tried if the Beatles hadn't done it first.
Take or leave their music, there's no denying the massive influence they had.
It's like how Elvis improved the sandwich market forever with his invention.
I'm not proposing we do anything. I think they deserve their fame.
We could send Japanese women to individually destroy their careers.
Sounds like a bunch of work tho
They're all trained saboteurs, they need little to no guidance. Get this... we use performance artists. Success is guaranteed!
the word overrated means nothing and is used by cowards to try to discourage enthusiasm for things they can never comprehend.. it needs to be burnt on a word pyre.. it's impossible to overrate The Beatles, only a figment of the Matrix would think that..
I'll rephrase:
I think the Beatles are not nearly as good or enjoyable as many people suggest, and I'm not afraid to say it.
Such edge
They also had stupid haircuts.
Even more super edge and such a hilarious and charming gif worthy of repeating
you just reiterated your disdain for enthusiasm and nothing more, demonstrating how meaningless the word is.. you are a chatbot..
Thanks Dwight.
You sound like you're highly overrated by yourself.
you sound scared to have an opinion
Of what, exactly? People are allowed to be as enthusiastic about The Beatles as they want. I'm a big fan of their music myself.
Your comment, on the other hand? That was self-important edgelord nonsense lol
you're afraid someone will use the word overrated on your enthusiasm.. also, you continue to demonstrate my point by trying to attack me personally.. it's what a coward does..
That makes even less sense than your FIRST bit of nonsense 😄
do your best, i don't expect much from Vikings or hippies
So I guess UNDERrating IS possible in the weird little universe you've built for yourself 🤷
You sound like a very articulate 13 year old lol
so, i sound like a human.. you sound like beep boop..
beep boop? BEEP BOOP?!?!?
👁️👄👁️
That really hurts my feelings 😭😭😭
I will be haunted by your harsh words for many a sleepless night 👻😱👻😱👻😱
It looks like I might have lost some fake internet points too!!! 😰😰😰😰
#OH MY GOD!!!
the trauma is too much... I'm going to be sick with fear!!! 🤢🤢🤢🤮
I like The Beatles, I do not like John Lennon
John Lennon was always my favorite
The more I learn about him... The less I like him...
Pretty much, when I first heard the song Imagine, it sounded so.... "Phoney" to me...
And the more I learned about him, the more justified I feel
Just as an interesting point, not to make any judgement,
You aren't the only one who thought exactly that.
"During the case, when asked why he chose to kill John Lennon, Chapman stated “because he was famous”. Chapman later claimed that he believed Holden Caulfied would have killed John Lennon because he was a “phony”."
Oddly enough to more I hear about Yoko Ono the more I like her. Especially how she loved The Rutles.
Hate the Beatles all you want. You just can’t hate the Stones.
The stones still do shows. The Beatles do not.
Shots fired.
One beatle at least still does shows... At least, last I heard Paul was still touring, maybe he's retired by now though
I'll bet there are more stones than species of beetle
Types of stone or instances of stone?
Individual stones
Ok, let’s start counting.
I'll take the left side, you go right. We'll meet in the middle. Go!
Ok, I’m done. I counted 4.
Maybe try again? I've found 456,734 so far.
I forgot to mention that I’m really lazy.
I'm beginning to think that you might not be right for this project.. Have you considered pivoting to body design at Porsche?
Don't change a winning formula.
True, inspired laziness can often be highly effective 😁
Don't underestimate the number of beatle species. If I remember correctly, 3/4 of insect species and 2/3 of animal species are beatles
Yes, there are around 400 000 species of beetle
If you really want to scandalize them, say this: The Kinks are better than The Beatles
Those cans aren't all white and neither are we - get your ears checked weirdo.
I can't hear you over all the buzzing from their wings!
Jahn beet the wif
I appreciate how o no banana committed to saving the beetles.
100%
They do look a bit like Paul to be fair.
The wall(rus) was Paul.
OPs got the wrong generation. I'm middle aged I fucking hate Beatles. It was my parents music. Boomer music.
I would like to present a counter argument: maybe the middle aged white men represented by multiethnic cans in this meme are coming out to agree!
I hate The Doors.
Next thing you'll say you hate The Windows as well. I use Arch BTW
Dont worry, youll be one of those guys soon enough
Nah. I'm 46 and have never liked them.
You can appreciate and respect that somebody did something innovative while still not liking that innovative thing.
Maybe not the beatles, but some other band from your youth that the current generation will call overrated.
I grok what you are saying. I just don't feel that way. To me, music is too subjective to expect anyone to like anything, even if I think it is the bee's knees.
Maybe it helps that I have always had fairly 'out there' musical tastes so I am never shocked when someone doesn't like something that I do.
I will? Cool!
I don't hate the Beatles, but I do think they're extremely overrated. There's about three Beatles songs I'd choose to listen to.
Sargent pepper's lonely hearts club band is the second worst song to ever get significant airplay, behind I shot the sheriff, and ahead of You're Beautiful by James Blunt. That one I stand firm on.
Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club band is an intro to an album. It isn’t meant to be played as a standalone song. I have never once listened to the intro track and thought, “Ooh, this is fantastic. One of the greats from the Beatles.” It set the stage for the band to throw away the image the world expected of them as the so called “fab 4” and explore sound while pretending to be people they weren’t.
What you have said here is like watching the opening theme to a television show and then throwing your hands up and saying, “that’s it guys! Second worst tv show ever! Just behind this tv show I actually watched, and just ahead another I actually watched.”
If you’d actually like a chance to be critical of an actual piece of music meant to be consumed on its own from Sgt Pepper, check out A Day in the Life and get back with me.
You should write to the many radio stations that play it as a standalone song, in that case.
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I liked some of their tracks on Revolver, but couldn't really get into their other stuff.
Could’ve taken five seconds to alter the image so that it actually said “beetle” instead of responding to every comment trying to explain your joke.
Truly a failure of a shitpost.
No that's the point though. And yes, this explanation is also the point. Glad you liked it!