I know a lot of people who work from home, none of them do so from bed.
When I initially became disabled, I tried to keep working desperately. I spent a couple of months working from bed before I had to give up.
Just an anecdote. Most people don't actually work from bed.
I once worked from my bed while I had a mild cold. Had a meeting with many international colleagues from all over Europe. I fell asleep. Luckily I had my camera and mic off. And it was about interfacing with SAP which I needed no help with.
SAP meeting from bed. That's truly hard-mode!
I did it on the sofa, was pretty much the same
My sister...
I read this article the other day and tried working from my bed but couldn't do it for more than maybe 15 mins.
While slumping over a desk for 9 hours straight improves back health. Prevents 100% of cases of lumbago.
It’s not just that the old money dragons of commercial real estate are losing money, it’s also that middle management nothings need to exert their authority over you in person to feel relevant.
WFH makes every company money on decreased overhead. The war against it is 100% commercial property landlords that collect rent in the billions.
Fuck every single one of those fucking assholes. They are destroying our world to squeeze out just a little more.
I mean if our zoning wasn’t so overly strict, those real estate holders could cash in on enormous rent prices by transforming that commercial space into apartments.
Then there would be more housing supply, rents would go down, homelessness would improve, and those real estate holders would be able to get back to making profit, and there’d be less lying about the pros and cons of working from home.
All of it could be better, through the mechanism of consensual mutual profit that we call the free market. If only the government weren’t constantly enforcing largely arbitrary rules about how this block can house people but that block can only be for offices.
Keeping rendering plants away from preschools is fine. Arbitrarily telling people they can’t put beds and kitchens into a commercial space and let people live there is not.
There’s profit being lost AND people going homeless because there is a third party constantly preventing us from making the deals that mutually improve our lives.
And they’ve convinced you the real estate owners are the evil ones.
Unfortunately the building codes for office and residential buildings are very different and it's damn near impossible to convert many offices into residences.
Perhaps it’s still more profitable than letting a building sit there un-used. The market should be allowed to try.
That’s okay, I’ll take a whole floor with no showers or kitchen for a cheap price.
It’s not hard, it’s just not profitable meaning they have to take a lost, you know, like everyone else who makes a bad investment.
It doesn't matter what you'll "take". It's illegal to live in a building that doesn't meet code for residential units. Stuff like natural light as well as adequate plumbing and ventilation are important.
And they wouldn't just be converting entire floors into single units. Those would be beyond luxury sizes. You think a 50 storey building can afford to become a 50-unit apartment? How is that going to solve our housing crisis? Don't be dense.
For a conversion to work, they would need to be able to convert every floor of an office building into sufficiently dense housing. But office buildings are typically laid out with very deep footprints, where much of the internal layout of the building is far from any sources of natural light. Humans need access to natural light, which is why it's not legal to sell a unit where the main rooms don't all have windows. That can't be fixed without tearing down the building and building something new.
It's illegal to live in a building that doesn't meet code for residential units.
Yes. The idea here is that relaxing those laws and allowing
Stuff like natural light as well as adequate plumbing and ventilation are important.
More important than having a roof over one’s head? A “free market” is when people make their own decisions about what’s important instead of the nanny state doing it for them.
And they wouldn't just be converting entire floors into single units.
I guess if plumbing is an issue then you could get about as many units out of an office as bathrooms that the office floor could
support.
Humans need access to natural light
Last time I stayed in a homeless shelter I had zero natural light. I was very, very happy to be inside, and nobody was forcing me to be there. I happily, eagerly, traded my natural light for shelter.
Free. Market. Adults making their own choices. Humans do not, in fact, need natural light. And the fact that some building code makes that claim, does not make it an aspect of reality.
Sitting at a desk for 8 hours a day is also bad for you so what’s the point. This bullshit propaganda is really starting to get old. Working from home is better for a lot of people. Corporation need to get over it.
I'm betting it's better for more people as well. Eat healthier, take more breaks, move around more as well.
This has been 100% true for me. I started working from home at the beginning of the pandemic and haven’t gone back. I lost 45 pounds in the first year and have managed to keep it off since. It’s all because I can eat better by making my own meals at home.
Also less stressful environment.
This article isn't about wfh vs office. It's about not working in bed so you don't disrupt your sleep.
It's amazing how many people who see "propaganda" everywhere can't see blatant spin when all of the evidence is right in front of them.
Propaganda is really getting dumber. The shit they make up looks like an accident of a bunch of clown cars.
People work from home in their bed? I've been doing this for a decade and a half now. I don't think I've worked from my bed once. Now I have a dedicated office but when I didn't I, you know, made a small surface my desk area and brought in a chair.
Regardless, it's propaganda of a sort. For sure.
I was WFH for about a decade too. I didn't work from my bed, but I sure as hell took meetings that I didn't really need to be in, or was more of a passive participant in, from bed. Always close to my computer (on the same floor) so I could get back if I needed something, but those were the best useless meetings.
But I don't get how this is propaganda. It's not suggesting that people RTO, it's saying they should not work in bed because it will hurt their sleep. The whole "RTO" part of this was spin put on it by the submitter. So, I guess, on second thought, maybe you are right.
But I don’t get how this is propaganda. It’s not suggesting that people RTO, it’s saying they should not work in bed because it will hurt their sleep. The whole “RTO” part of this was spin put on it by the submitter. So, I guess, on second thought, maybe you are right.
Why I think it probably is a form of propaganda, is purely because the headline says Working from home is causing it. If they didn't want to front-load a negative view of WFH the headline would be "Working from bed unhealthy" or similar.
A fair, reasonable point.
My disagreement with it is that "bed rotting" is something being pushed in social media for people, including during WFH, so I'm not sure how easy it is to detach it from WFH.
But, again, I think you have a valid criticism. And considering the article is mainly about developing good sleep habits, I file the headline under "click bait" rather than part of some larger conspiracy between this local media station and big business to get people back into the office.
Yeah, even the subtitle clarifies things. So I'm not going to suggest the article is propaganda itself. But, they know what they're doing when they put it in the main title. Maybe it's just to grab attention. But, people that just read the title are going to walk away with a certain impression, I'd bet.
Working from bed rn.
It's great.
If you ever start wondering why it's hard to sleep, you might have your answer right here.
Same, about a decade for me too, and never worked from my bed once.
If I'm tinkering with something, I might sit on the sofa or lie in bed for half an hour, but no way would I work from bed. Sounds like a sore neck waiting to happen...
I do if I’m feeling under the weather. I have a bed that can be raised into a seated position so that’s nice. I prefer my desk when I’m doing more mentally intensive work though.
I have definitely answered work emails like that
I FREQUENTLY work from bed, specially at night when I'm watching both TV and some script I wrote do it's thing. I made myself a custom headboard that is outrageously comfortable for working upright.
Better than office rotting
That is straight up not what bed rotting is. Bed rotting is when you're so depressed you can't bring yourself to get out of bed at all. Like, it's a mental health condition, not lazyness.
Working from home is awesome, working from bed is not. And people wonder why they have trouble falling asleep...
you know who didn't die in a car crash on the way to work this morning? People who WFH
As I said elsewhere, there is zero in this article about RTO. It's all about getting out of bed to work so you develop good sleep habits. Y'all are getting played by the submitter so easily.
It’s the deep vein thrombosis that gets ya
Luckily i built a home office and gym with all the money I saved not paying for 2 hours of commuting, parking and getting lunch 260 days/year. I've never been in better shape mentally or physically!
I don't have the space for a home gym, but I do use my money and time I save from my commute to pay for and use a gym subscription. Also easily the best shape physically and mentally I have ever been
fknlol - like people WFH are working from their bed. I can't think of a more uncomfortable location for my to do my job from. Except the office five days a week of course...
That's bad for the laptop tho. Get one of those little bed tables.
It's a Mac Book. Getting hot enough to fry an egg is a feature.
Only on the old Intel models.
New m3 doesn't
Cool. You know what I got from sitting in a cheap office chair all day at work?
Hemorrhoids.
I'll take "bed rot."
Uhhhh I think you might want to look into your diet. Chairs don’t give hemorrhoids. A bad diet will tho.
Yeah, okay. The bleeding started when I started working there and stopped when I sat on a hemorrhoid pillow. Must have been my diet.
Sounds like you were doing it wrong.
You’re not supposed to thrust the chair into your asshole.
Your rules and my desires do not align
TIL
I'm impressed at how much time you spend on lemmy, and how little you spend actually reading any of the articles you get outraged over.
There is absolutely zero in this article about RTO. It's all about not working in your bed as that can develop poor sleep habits. It's all about acting in a way so you get good sleep. Why anyone would get outraged over this or turn this into part of some grand conspiracy between the media and big business to get people back into the office is beyond me.
Clearly this is what the submitter is attempting to imply. Don't be so easily played.
Cool. I didn't want to read a page full of spammy bullshit, as OP suggested. Sorry that wasn't okay with you.
You are too easily played. Think for yourself, instead of letting some lemmy poster manipulate you so easily into being outraged with blatantly misrepresentative titles to articles. If you don't want to read "spammy bullshit" then just don't read it, but then I suggest you also don't get outraged over it because the OP is telling you to be outraged. It doesn't matter if I'm okay with this, you shouldn't be.
What makes you think I was outraged?
What this comes down to is that got played by the OP. It's more important that you take away from this is that you should think for yourself, rather than try to nit-pick over whether you were actually outraged.
I am sure you have never been tricked in your life, but just because I do get tricked on occasion does not mean I am unable to think for myself. It means I'm not perfect and I'm not smart, two things I have never claimed or pretended to be. And if you think being imperfect and not smart means you are unable to think for yourself, you must not think very highly of your species' ability to do so. Based on random internet encounters too.
Anyway, it was an unwarranted insult. I get that you're better than me, you've made that clear, I won't argue with you. Can we move on?
I am sure you have never been tricked in your life
No, I absolutely have. I've even been tricked by misleading headlines of articles. What I took away from this, after it happened, was that I should RTFA before responding. Still, sometimes, I don't, but usually those responses will just be jokes.
on occasion does not mean I am unable to think for myself.
I hate to break it to you, but I spend too much time on lemmy too, and I see your posts all the time. Quite regularly your comments are in response to some false assumption about the article, that clearly came from the headline. It seems to happen far more than "on occasion." Slow down. You don't need to come to an opinion in a flash. Hell, you don't even need to come to an opinion about it at all. If you don't want to take the time to read the article, then that should also indicate to you that you shouldn't rush to an opinion and then take the time to comment on that opinion.
I read the article quite often, but not when I'm warned about the website beforehand being full of spammy crap. I assume if I go through your post history, I will never find any occasions where you jumped to any conclusions, right?
And yes, I get that you want to keep pointing out I post a lot. I'm tired of explaining why. Let's just say it involves my health.
I assume if I go through your post history, I will never find any occasions where you jumped to any conclusions, right?
lol. I literally just explicitly told you I have.
And yes, I get that you want to keep pointing out I post a lot. I’m tired of explaining why. Let’s just say it involves my health.
Stop being so offended. You don't need to defend yourself, just grow. Take this as a learning opportunity, rather a reason to circle the wagons. I don't point out how much you post as an insult (as I'm here a lot myself) but only because I see this happening plenty.
Why shouldn't I be offended by someone who suggests I can't think for myself? That sure sounds like an insult to me.
I never said you can't, I said you should do it.
But I get it, this is your little bone now that you are going to latch onto instead of using this as a growing experience. So I'm done.
I feel like getting bed sores and having muscles atrophy
is more of the worry than anything else and it's weird these aren't even concerns brought up.
Who's calling it this?
Rich people
Shitty rich people
that's what they said
A redundant concept.
TIL “bed rotting” is a TikTok term for avoiding the world as a way to deal with burnout until you decide to come out of bed. Doesn’t sound bad on the face of it, but obviously being immobile for long periods isn’t great.
How that transitioned to essentially working from bed and the problems with immobility I don’t know.
I'll have you know, I avoid the world just fine from both in and out of my bed!
Re sauce:
I can't browse through the brain rot 😢
Translation: "Europe will sue us if we place the cookies we want, but our advertisers will sue us if we don't"
ARTICLE:
Ever since the coronavirus pandemic, working from home has become normalized. But working from home can also lead to a very bad habit called bed rotting. This new trend encourages people to stay in bed for passive activities, but that can spill over into work.
"I'm not one to, like, get up and get ready every single day. But I need my screens. I need my monitors. I need my set up," said Caroline Wharry, who works in marketing from home a few days a week.
Wharry said working from home is a new type of lifestyle, but bed rotting sounds somewhat lazy and uncomfortable.
"I take my meetings, and when I'm on meetings, I try to have my camera on. So, I do not understand how they're doing all of that from their bed," Wharry said.
Elise Vader, a physician's assistant and sleep specialist with University Hospital, said people could also develop insomnia.
"For general health. We know that being active and moving is important for the body, for your mood, for your muscle health, for your heart health," Vader said.
A Sleep Doctor survey found about six out of 10 remote and hybrid workers say they bed rot during work hours. Four out of every 10 men say they are more likely to bed rot compared to just two out of every 10 women. And four out of every 10 bed rotters say they were influenced to do it because they heard about it from others.
"The No. 1 thing is when it comes to what we call sleep hygiene, which is like the best way to get the most healthy sleep, you know, keeping your room cool, dark and quiet, staying away from screens. This kind of goes against that," said Marten Carlson, a sleep science coach.
About 40% of bed rotters say they spend one to two hours working from their bed, and about half of those bed rotters say they spend at least half of their day in bed.
"When we think about sleep, especially when you're doing activities in bed, you're training your brain that the bed is for being awake and active," said Dr. Kristi Pruiksma, an assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at UT Health San Antonio.
She advised that the bed should be used for sleep and intimacy only.
I read this from bed, and I will become a literal cenobite before I return to my office desk
Bed sores are not a new thing.
yeah I was about to point out that corpos certainly did not just invent the word "bedrot" for their own benefit. This has been a thing for a while. Nurses often have to walk patients who are admitted for several days to prevent "bed rot" symptoms.
If you were staying in bed all day, every day, yeah you're gonna get some severe health issues pretty damn quick. But if you're getting up and moving around regularly, you shouldn't worry.... but in that case, it would make more sense to idk buy a desk, sit at a table, or on the couch. A laptop in bed is not practical and certainly not comfortable with the heat it generates. Quite frankly I don't understand why anyone would ever choose to use a laptop in bed if they have other options available.
Because comfy.
I don't even disagree with your points. I do notice that my back muscles will quickly undevelop, if I work from bed all day.
But on Monday, I had a stressful day in the office, so I had no qualms spending yesterday working mostly from my bed.
Similarly, someone who does more sports than me could easily counteract the effects.
I'm not a brain-rotted manager, I know how to buy a desk and arrange a work station.
I'd like to know who funded this "study"
Literally nobody. They just wrote any old shit on a piece of toiled paper.
Maybe the new WFH people during pandemic.
I suspect that the many who always were remote have better habits established to make WFH healthy.
Corpo propaganda resulting in a condition called “Brain Rotting”
sadly there's also bootlickers who're willing to take the sides of people who want to abuse them
“Everyone else wants to abuse you. Considering perspectives outside of this group’s perspective is being a bootlicker. We’re the only ones who can trust because we’re going to turn you into a hero who saves the world through bitterness and resentment”
the only rot I have is brain rot ❤️
And dragon rot
working from bed right now. in my lane. flourishing.
I hear working from home makes your dick small, pass it on.
I need a poster that has the signs off bed rot
This reads like a Onion headline
I remember back in the fifties how all the conservatives were so happy that all the women were barefoot at home cause they couldn’t have a job, but also simultaneously so upset about all the bed rotting they did. Then the damn liberals invented jobs for women and ruined everything. Now the uppity women are upset about “not having control over their own bodies” and “being forced to give birth to a corpse when the fetus dies” and “dying because of an ectopic pregnancy, something that hasn’t happened in the US since the Industrial Revolution”.
/s (in case that wasn’t obvious)
A fresh push for improved ergonomics isn’t all that silly.
I WFH at a standing desk and I walk and play with my dog on lunch.
why are we even giving these people the time of day
I can't even tell what online rag this shitpost came from.
But I imagine its getting reposted a thousand times in those annoying headline gore ads that fill up every website not sufficiently ad-blocked.
Welp, great it is time to crosspost to a boring dystopia. Again.......
Consult your boss if you experience bet rot, and get your prescription for Cubicle™ today!
Even the advertising on pandora is pushing RTO
Right now my favorite thing is sitting in the backyard using my Vision Pro as a giant, glare-free outdoor monitor.
Guess that means I'm "Nature Rotting"?
I sit in my Secret Labs gaming chair when working from home. When I work at the office, I sit in their Secret Labs Titan gaming chairs, which don't have a back or neck pillow so are slightly less comfortable and slightly too big.
Yeah my home setup is much nicer than anything in the office, I'm hybrid.
It helped when the pandemic started I already had a pretty good pc gaming setup to adapt into WFH gear.
I know a lot of people who work from home, none of them do so from bed.
When I initially became disabled, I tried to keep working desperately. I spent a couple of months working from bed before I had to give up.
Just an anecdote. Most people don't actually work from bed.
I once worked from my bed while I had a mild cold. Had a meeting with many international colleagues from all over Europe. I fell asleep. Luckily I had my camera and mic off. And it was about interfacing with SAP which I needed no help with.
SAP meeting from bed. That's truly hard-mode!
I did it on the sofa, was pretty much the same
My sister...
I read this article the other day and tried working from my bed but couldn't do it for more than maybe 15 mins.
While slumping over a desk for 9 hours straight improves back health. Prevents 100% of cases of lumbago.
It’s not just that the old money dragons of commercial real estate are losing money, it’s also that middle management nothings need to exert their authority over you in person to feel relevant.
WFH makes every company money on decreased overhead. The war against it is 100% commercial property landlords that collect rent in the billions.
Fuck every single one of those fucking assholes. They are destroying our world to squeeze out just a little more.
I mean if our zoning wasn’t so overly strict, those real estate holders could cash in on enormous rent prices by transforming that commercial space into apartments.
Then there would be more housing supply, rents would go down, homelessness would improve, and those real estate holders would be able to get back to making profit, and there’d be less lying about the pros and cons of working from home.
All of it could be better, through the mechanism of consensual mutual profit that we call the free market. If only the government weren’t constantly enforcing largely arbitrary rules about how this block can house people but that block can only be for offices.
Keeping rendering plants away from preschools is fine. Arbitrarily telling people they can’t put beds and kitchens into a commercial space and let people live there is not.
There’s profit being lost AND people going homeless because there is a third party constantly preventing us from making the deals that mutually improve our lives.
And they’ve convinced you the real estate owners are the evil ones.
Unfortunately the building codes for office and residential buildings are very different and it's damn near impossible to convert many offices into residences.
Perhaps it’s still more profitable than letting a building sit there un-used. The market should be allowed to try.
That’s okay, I’ll take a whole floor with no showers or kitchen for a cheap price.
It’s not hard, it’s just not profitable meaning they have to take a lost, you know, like everyone else who makes a bad investment.
It doesn't matter what you'll "take". It's illegal to live in a building that doesn't meet code for residential units. Stuff like natural light as well as adequate plumbing and ventilation are important.
And they wouldn't just be converting entire floors into single units. Those would be beyond luxury sizes. You think a 50 storey building can afford to become a 50-unit apartment? How is that going to solve our housing crisis? Don't be dense.
For a conversion to work, they would need to be able to convert every floor of an office building into sufficiently dense housing. But office buildings are typically laid out with very deep footprints, where much of the internal layout of the building is far from any sources of natural light. Humans need access to natural light, which is why it's not legal to sell a unit where the main rooms don't all have windows. That can't be fixed without tearing down the building and building something new.
Yes. The idea here is that relaxing those laws and allowing
More important than having a roof over one’s head? A “free market” is when people make their own decisions about what’s important instead of the nanny state doing it for them.
I guess if plumbing is an issue then you could get about as many units out of an office as bathrooms that the office floor could support.
Last time I stayed in a homeless shelter I had zero natural light. I was very, very happy to be inside, and nobody was forcing me to be there. I happily, eagerly, traded my natural light for shelter.
Free. Market. Adults making their own choices. Humans do not, in fact, need natural light. And the fact that some building code makes that claim, does not make it an aspect of reality.
Sitting at a desk for 8 hours a day is also bad for you so what’s the point. This bullshit propaganda is really starting to get old. Working from home is better for a lot of people. Corporation need to get over it.
I'm betting it's better for more people as well. Eat healthier, take more breaks, move around more as well.
This has been 100% true for me. I started working from home at the beginning of the pandemic and haven’t gone back. I lost 45 pounds in the first year and have managed to keep it off since. It’s all because I can eat better by making my own meals at home.
Also less stressful environment.
This article isn't about wfh vs office. It's about not working in bed so you don't disrupt your sleep.
It's amazing how many people who see "propaganda" everywhere can't see blatant spin when all of the evidence is right in front of them.
Propaganda is really getting dumber. The shit they make up looks like an accident of a bunch of clown cars.
People work from home in their bed? I've been doing this for a decade and a half now. I don't think I've worked from my bed once. Now I have a dedicated office but when I didn't I, you know, made a small surface my desk area and brought in a chair.
Regardless, it's propaganda of a sort. For sure.
I was WFH for about a decade too. I didn't work from my bed, but I sure as hell took meetings that I didn't really need to be in, or was more of a passive participant in, from bed. Always close to my computer (on the same floor) so I could get back if I needed something, but those were the best useless meetings.
But I don't get how this is propaganda. It's not suggesting that people RTO, it's saying they should not work in bed because it will hurt their sleep. The whole "RTO" part of this was spin put on it by the submitter. So, I guess, on second thought, maybe you are right.
Why I think it probably is a form of propaganda, is purely because the headline says Working from home is causing it. If they didn't want to front-load a negative view of WFH the headline would be "Working from bed unhealthy" or similar.
A fair, reasonable point.
My disagreement with it is that "bed rotting" is something being pushed in social media for people, including during WFH, so I'm not sure how easy it is to detach it from WFH.
But, again, I think you have a valid criticism. And considering the article is mainly about developing good sleep habits, I file the headline under "click bait" rather than part of some larger conspiracy between this local media station and big business to get people back into the office.
Yeah, even the subtitle clarifies things. So I'm not going to suggest the article is propaganda itself. But, they know what they're doing when they put it in the main title. Maybe it's just to grab attention. But, people that just read the title are going to walk away with a certain impression, I'd bet.
Working from bed rn.
It's great.
If you ever start wondering why it's hard to sleep, you might have your answer right here.
Same, about a decade for me too, and never worked from my bed once.
If I'm tinkering with something, I might sit on the sofa or lie in bed for half an hour, but no way would I work from bed. Sounds like a sore neck waiting to happen...
I do if I’m feeling under the weather. I have a bed that can be raised into a seated position so that’s nice. I prefer my desk when I’m doing more mentally intensive work though.
I have definitely answered work emails like that
I FREQUENTLY work from bed, specially at night when I'm watching both TV and some script I wrote do it's thing. I made myself a custom headboard that is outrageously comfortable for working upright.
Better than office rotting
That is straight up not what bed rotting is. Bed rotting is when you're so depressed you can't bring yourself to get out of bed at all. Like, it's a mental health condition, not lazyness.
Working from home is awesome, working from bed is not. And people wonder why they have trouble falling asleep...
you know who didn't die in a car crash on the way to work this morning? People who WFH
As I said elsewhere, there is zero in this article about RTO. It's all about getting out of bed to work so you develop good sleep habits. Y'all are getting played by the submitter so easily.
It’s the deep vein thrombosis that gets ya
Luckily i built a home office and gym with all the money I saved not paying for 2 hours of commuting, parking and getting lunch 260 days/year. I've never been in better shape mentally or physically!
I don't have the space for a home gym, but I do use my money and time I save from my commute to pay for and use a gym subscription. Also easily the best shape physically and mentally I have ever been
fknlol - like people WFH are working from their bed. I can't think of a more uncomfortable location for my to do my job from. Except the office five days a week of course...
That's bad for the laptop tho. Get one of those little bed tables.
It's a Mac Book. Getting hot enough to fry an egg is a feature.
Only on the old Intel models.
New m3 doesn't
Cool. You know what I got from sitting in a cheap office chair all day at work?
Hemorrhoids.
I'll take "bed rot."
Uhhhh I think you might want to look into your diet. Chairs don’t give hemorrhoids. A bad diet will tho.
You're wrong about chairs. You're right about a bad diet, but sitting for 10+ hours a day will cause or exacerbate haemorrhoids. One of many sources available on the internet: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hemorrhoids/symptoms-causes/syc-20360268
Yeah, okay. The bleeding started when I started working there and stopped when I sat on a hemorrhoid pillow. Must have been my diet.
Sounds like you were doing it wrong.
You’re not supposed to thrust the chair into your asshole.
Your rules and my desires do not align
TIL
I'm impressed at how much time you spend on lemmy, and how little you spend actually reading any of the articles you get outraged over.
There is absolutely zero in this article about RTO. It's all about not working in your bed as that can develop poor sleep habits. It's all about acting in a way so you get good sleep. Why anyone would get outraged over this or turn this into part of some grand conspiracy between the media and big business to get people back into the office is beyond me.
Clearly this is what the submitter is attempting to imply. Don't be so easily played.
Cool. I didn't want to read a page full of spammy bullshit, as OP suggested. Sorry that wasn't okay with you.
You are too easily played. Think for yourself, instead of letting some lemmy poster manipulate you so easily into being outraged with blatantly misrepresentative titles to articles. If you don't want to read "spammy bullshit" then just don't read it, but then I suggest you also don't get outraged over it because the OP is telling you to be outraged. It doesn't matter if I'm okay with this, you shouldn't be.
What makes you think I was outraged?
What this comes down to is that got played by the OP. It's more important that you take away from this is that you should think for yourself, rather than try to nit-pick over whether you were actually outraged.
I am sure you have never been tricked in your life, but just because I do get tricked on occasion does not mean I am unable to think for myself. It means I'm not perfect and I'm not smart, two things I have never claimed or pretended to be. And if you think being imperfect and not smart means you are unable to think for yourself, you must not think very highly of your species' ability to do so. Based on random internet encounters too.
Anyway, it was an unwarranted insult. I get that you're better than me, you've made that clear, I won't argue with you. Can we move on?
No, I absolutely have. I've even been tricked by misleading headlines of articles. What I took away from this, after it happened, was that I should RTFA before responding. Still, sometimes, I don't, but usually those responses will just be jokes.
I hate to break it to you, but I spend too much time on lemmy too, and I see your posts all the time. Quite regularly your comments are in response to some false assumption about the article, that clearly came from the headline. It seems to happen far more than "on occasion." Slow down. You don't need to come to an opinion in a flash. Hell, you don't even need to come to an opinion about it at all. If you don't want to take the time to read the article, then that should also indicate to you that you shouldn't rush to an opinion and then take the time to comment on that opinion.
I read the article quite often, but not when I'm warned about the website beforehand being full of spammy crap. I assume if I go through your post history, I will never find any occasions where you jumped to any conclusions, right?
And yes, I get that you want to keep pointing out I post a lot. I'm tired of explaining why. Let's just say it involves my health.
lol. I literally just explicitly told you I have.
Stop being so offended. You don't need to defend yourself, just grow. Take this as a learning opportunity, rather a reason to circle the wagons. I don't point out how much you post as an insult (as I'm here a lot myself) but only because I see this happening plenty.
Why shouldn't I be offended by someone who suggests I can't think for myself? That sure sounds like an insult to me.
I never said you can't, I said you should do it.
But I get it, this is your little bone now that you are going to latch onto instead of using this as a growing experience. So I'm done.
I'm sure we'll butt heads again soon. Until then.
In contrast to office rotting?
In contrast to Living Room Thriving. Just use the whole house you paid for.
It's not a condition.
It's a word someone made up to shame people into going against their best interests.
You think developing good sleep habits by only using your bed for sleep and intimacy is against your best interests?
I feel like getting bed sores and having muscles atrophy is more of the worry than anything else and it's weird these aren't even concerns brought up.
Who's calling it this?
Rich people
Shitty rich people
that's what they said
A redundant concept.
TIL “bed rotting” is a TikTok term for avoiding the world as a way to deal with burnout until you decide to come out of bed. Doesn’t sound bad on the face of it, but obviously being immobile for long periods isn’t great.
How that transitioned to essentially working from bed and the problems with immobility I don’t know.
I'll have you know, I avoid the world just fine from both in and out of my bed!
Re sauce:
I can't browse through the brain rot 😢
Translation: "Europe will sue us if we place the cookies we want, but our advertisers will sue us if we don't"
ARTICLE:
Ever since the coronavirus pandemic, working from home has become normalized. But working from home can also lead to a very bad habit called bed rotting. This new trend encourages people to stay in bed for passive activities, but that can spill over into work.
"I'm not one to, like, get up and get ready every single day. But I need my screens. I need my monitors. I need my set up," said Caroline Wharry, who works in marketing from home a few days a week.
Wharry said working from home is a new type of lifestyle, but bed rotting sounds somewhat lazy and uncomfortable.
"I take my meetings, and when I'm on meetings, I try to have my camera on. So, I do not understand how they're doing all of that from their bed," Wharry said.
Elise Vader, a physician's assistant and sleep specialist with University Hospital, said people could also develop insomnia.
"For general health. We know that being active and moving is important for the body, for your mood, for your muscle health, for your heart health," Vader said.
A Sleep Doctor survey found about six out of 10 remote and hybrid workers say they bed rot during work hours. Four out of every 10 men say they are more likely to bed rot compared to just two out of every 10 women. And four out of every 10 bed rotters say they were influenced to do it because they heard about it from others.
"The No. 1 thing is when it comes to what we call sleep hygiene, which is like the best way to get the most healthy sleep, you know, keeping your room cool, dark and quiet, staying away from screens. This kind of goes against that," said Marten Carlson, a sleep science coach.
About 40% of bed rotters say they spend one to two hours working from their bed, and about half of those bed rotters say they spend at least half of their day in bed.
"When we think about sleep, especially when you're doing activities in bed, you're training your brain that the bed is for being awake and active," said Dr. Kristi Pruiksma, an assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at UT Health San Antonio.
She advised that the bed should be used for sleep and intimacy only.
I read this from bed, and I will become a literal cenobite before I return to my office desk
Bed sores are not a new thing.
yeah I was about to point out that corpos certainly did not just invent the word "bedrot" for their own benefit. This has been a thing for a while. Nurses often have to walk patients who are admitted for several days to prevent "bed rot" symptoms.
If you were staying in bed all day, every day, yeah you're gonna get some severe health issues pretty damn quick. But if you're getting up and moving around regularly, you shouldn't worry.... but in that case, it would make more sense to idk buy a desk, sit at a table, or on the couch. A laptop in bed is not practical and certainly not comfortable with the heat it generates. Quite frankly I don't understand why anyone would ever choose to use a laptop in bed if they have other options available.
Because comfy.
I don't even disagree with your points. I do notice that my back muscles will quickly undevelop, if I work from bed all day.
But on Monday, I had a stressful day in the office, so I had no qualms spending yesterday working mostly from my bed.
Similarly, someone who does more sports than me could easily counteract the effects.
I'm not a brain-rotted manager, I know how to buy a desk and arrange a work station.
I'd like to know who funded this "study"
Literally nobody. They just wrote any old shit on a piece of toiled paper.
Maybe the new WFH people during pandemic.
I suspect that the many who always were remote have better habits established to make WFH healthy.
Corpo propaganda resulting in a condition called “Brain Rotting”
sadly there's also bootlickers who're willing to take the sides of people who want to abuse them
“Everyone else wants to abuse you. Considering perspectives outside of this group’s perspective is being a bootlicker. We’re the only ones who can trust because we’re going to turn you into a hero who saves the world through bitterness and resentment”
the only rot I have is brain rot ❤️
And dragon rot
working from bed right now. in my lane. flourishing.
I hear working from home makes your dick small, pass it on.
I need a poster that has the signs off bed rot
This reads like a Onion headline
I remember back in the fifties how all the conservatives were so happy that all the women were barefoot at home cause they couldn’t have a job, but also simultaneously so upset about all the bed rotting they did. Then the damn liberals invented jobs for women and ruined everything. Now the uppity women are upset about “not having control over their own bodies” and “being forced to give birth to a corpse when the fetus dies” and “dying because of an ectopic pregnancy, something that hasn’t happened in the US since the Industrial Revolution”.
/s (in case that wasn’t obvious)
A fresh push for improved ergonomics isn’t all that silly.
I WFH at a standing desk and I walk and play with my dog on lunch.
why are we even giving these people the time of day
I can't even tell what online rag this shitpost came from.
But I imagine its getting reposted a thousand times in those annoying headline gore ads that fill up every website not sufficiently ad-blocked.
Welp, great it is time to crosspost to a boring dystopia. Again.......
Consult your boss if you experience bet rot, and get your prescription for Cubicle™ today!
Even the advertising on pandora is pushing RTO
Right now my favorite thing is sitting in the backyard using my Vision Pro as a giant, glare-free outdoor monitor.
Guess that means I'm "Nature Rotting"?
I sit in my Secret Labs gaming chair when working from home. When I work at the office, I sit in their Secret Labs Titan gaming chairs, which don't have a back or neck pillow so are slightly less comfortable and slightly too big.
Yeah my home setup is much nicer than anything in the office, I'm hybrid.
It helped when the pandemic started I already had a pretty good pc gaming setup to adapt into WFH gear.
Rage bait, I suppose.