Tuesday 9/10 Presidential Debate Megathread!
Was tempted to call this "Debate 2: Electric Boogaloo" but a) A lot of Lemmy won't get the OG reference. and 2) "Boogaloo" has been co-opted and carries an unfortunate connotation these days.
Also, while it's Trump's 2nd debate of the season, it's Harris's first...
It's being run by ABC News at 9 PM Eastern time, 6 PM Pacific, I see MSNBC starts their coverage TWO HOURS EARLY. That's a lot of air time to fill, guys. Good luck!
Live updates, how and when to watch, debate rules, etc. here:
Link to the first debate thread here:
https://lemmy.world/post/16973660
That't it! Thanks for hanging with it everbody!
This wins the night...
I like this one.
235th trimester
That's brilliant
LMFAO
OMG Trump is off the rails and i absolutely love it!
Moderator: "Just to be clear, you have a plan? "
Trump: "I have concepts of a plan?"
Tried to kill Obamacare 8 years ago but just now starting to come up with some... concepts ... of a replacement plan
12% of a plan.
In the post debate interview, Tim Walz just referenced Trump as an old man yelling at clouds. I love it.
"I have the concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now!"
Holy shit, dude. You biffed that one hard.
He'll think about it when he gets elected, lol, Jesus.
“Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.”
— Former President Donald J. Trump
Thank you for transcribing that! My wife and I burst out laughing when he said that.
Are any of the illegal transgender aliens in the room with us now, Mr. Trump? And did one of them touch your pee pee and turn it into a mushroom?
"i'm a gun owner, we're not taking guns away." strongest opinion from a democrat i've heard on this topic.
So here are my thoughts:
All in all, I didn't hate this (other than the sound of Trump's face hole).
Trump kept making his Muppet faces. Lol.
This one? Random screen grab, but it happened so frequently...
I'm in no way undecided but I think I can see this pretty clearly from both sides.
He presented better than he has previously, and they absolutely claimed he won then. I think the only thing they're going to ding them on is not being aggressive enough they really loved it when he was slapping his meat at Hillary. By those standards this was a rather dull showing by him. And you bet they watched it. This is the only debate that's going to happen they're not going to miss that.
And from the Democrat side her anti-Israeli war statements were kind of weak. We're not taking away your guns, we're fracking, But she's not here to convert more Democrats she's here to convert moderates and he's just slinging to his base.
He showed up a little nutty instead of roughly senile like he's been showing on tour. I was expecting him to turn into a rabid squirrel.
She presented very well she speaks very well she's well thought out I hope to God she has this.
As an undecided, never trumper, Trump looked like an asshat. The oldest trick in the rhetoric books is to attack the person instead of the subject. A sure sign of weakness.
"Donald trump was fired by 81 million people"
Throwing his catch phrase against him!
That was gold
From where I was sitting, it seemed like Harris beat the ever-loving-shit out him. He took every piece of bait she laid out. I'm not the target though, so I hope undecideds saw what I saw.
Harris exceeded high expectations and Trump failed to meet incredibly low expectations.
Let the spin begin, but I saw what I saw.
She's been fucking relentless. She spoke to him directly about how terrible he's been, I could hardly stay heated. That shit had to cut deep. She let each point sink in slowly....
Trump's going to need a burn unit after this...
This… former President…
That pause. 👏
Holy shit I burst out laughing. The silence was deafening.
Never before has a single letter F contained so much pure restrained energy. Bra-vo, Harris. Bravo.
This...^piece ^of ^shit... former president
Apparently, Harris is fond of “motherfucker.”
This…. ^motherfucker… former president.
"I AM RESPOND!"
"No sir we need to get to the next quest..."
"I AM RESPOND NOW!"
"No, Mr. President we need to..."
"I AM RESPOND!"
"Oh OK."
"THEY WEAK ME STRONG! HONK HONK!"
HE’S GOT CONCEPTS OF A PLAN, KIDS, SHIT I’M ALL IN
9 fucking years....he just needs a little more time... he'll totes come up with it once he's president
How much of a concept of a plan does he have?
"Twelve percent"
The take aways, there are illegals getting sent to jail for trans surgery that are then sent out to eat cats and abort born children near the Keystone Pipeline so that billions and millions and trillions of illegals can enter everyday.
Honestly, this comment is a bit crazy and stupid, but then I remember what I just watched and heard.
Honestly, you underplayed just how demented he was.
It was only 21 million a month, I think. Remember how the US population almost tripled the last 4 years?
I'm nowhere near ready to give up the fight on this one. Those bastards can pry "[Anything] 2: Electric Boogaloo" from my cold, dead hands.
Turbo, Ozone, and Special K love you.
Outsider view from across the pond:
It appears from the outset that the Trump camp is tripping over it's own feet and stepping on landmine after landmine. Literally all Harris seems to have to do is stay on message, bat off anything too controversial, and let the opposition's trousers fall down by themselves.
It'll be interesting either way. The only real surprise to me will be whether I'll learn about key moments from news outlets or from mad memez first.
The bar is so low for him, he could literally shit himself on stage and his supporters would crow that it was a power move to own the libs.
Reasonable doesn't win elections here, vibes do. Its madness.
He did shit himself during the debate with Biden.
I wish that was all she needed to do, but Trump is still a slight favorite in a lot polls that account for how the electoral college votes will be divided.
She can’t just stay on message, she needs to drive a lot of turn out in very specific parts of the nation because, sadly, the American president isn’t picked by the majority of voters.
Republicans often win the electoral college and lose the popular vote.
I can see where it looks that way, but you have to understand that Trump's fanbase literally does not care.
Trump could start the debate by dropping trou and laying a turd live on stage and MAGA would go on about how he's "owning ABC and the libs!"
The media would cut away and claim "Trump opened the debate by declaring his disdain for the process..."
Trump claims he only used to be racist 40 years ago
"They had to go back 40 years to find me being racist" is not the flex he thinks it is.
OMG, he's arguing with the moderators about whether or not a dog got eaten!
I love following the debate through comments. It's surreal.
"A dictator who would eat you for lunch."
Trump has officially moved to the "no u" stage of his debate tactics.
Really good energy this time around, but Jesus, Trump is exhausting to listen to. No wonder crowds leave his rallies early. :)
Edit: Muted him, but I can hear my wife in the other room yelling "OH FUCK YOU!!!"
I hear my wife upstairs giggling on and off. Great stuff.
His voice makes me want to stab my ears but he's unravelling and it's kind of glorious.
There won't be another debate, lol.
He really wants to fight against Biden.
"You aren't running against Joe Biden, you're running against me"
Yep. And he hates it.
"I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now" -Trump
“But I’ll solve the Middle East as President-elect”
"Those were your words."
"I dunno."
I live near Detroit. They are building an auto factory down the street from me where the Pistons used to play. That's not in Mexico
…and this…..former president…
She wanted to say idiot.
The pause was long enough she was able to say all the things in it mentally.
I actually said it out loud.
“Many many billions of dollars” IRS are you listening?
In case anyone has forgotten re Afghanistan:
Trump admitted that it was his own doing:
"I got involved with the Taliban," was my personal quote of the night for Trump.
I feel like she's using words like 'weak' to unsettle Trump and it's getting to him
When she mentioned his crowd sizes he fucking lost it.
He’s been on tilt ever since that crowd comment.
Because he is weak.
The articles leading up to this were great. The punditry about how Harris couldn't afford one little gaffe or she's sunk.
No one seemed to remember her from senate hearings. No one remembered that she was a fucking prosecutor. She made a career out of manipulating people into self-incrimination. Her livelihood was arguing people into corners they couldn't escape. Exposing lies was her bread and butter. And she had to do so in a way that made it crystal clear to a dozen randos who were too dumb to get out of jury duty.
And Trump is a stupid, vain, easily manipulated hothead who lies about everything.
And the audience was American voters.
This is familiar territory for Harris. She knows this place like the inside of her eyelids.
Six years later, he still doesn't have the healthcare plan he promised in two weeks.
Just wish moderators would have the spine to hold Trump to the rules and just keep his mic muted and move on.
Maybe it is in the benefit of Harris given his rambling but I don't know.
Its absolutely to the benefit of Harris.
All these comments were likely what was pushing Biden down and distracting Biden when Trump's mic was off. Now that the mic remains on, Trump is clearly the one trying to fuck up Kamala. But she's much quicker on the uptake and can judo-throw him off of her. The mic makes it obvious when Trump is attempting to distract.
Whoops, he's debating Biden again.
"President Trump, thank you" sounds more and more like "Shut the fuck up now, bitch" every time a moderator says it.
He has concepts!
Here's what I expect:
For Harris to "win": She needs to be able to go toe to toe with Trump. Any stuttering, nervousness, or uneasiness will be preyed upon, both immediately by Trump and afterwards in soundbytes and attack ads. She cannot have a "......we finally beat medicaid!" moment. She needs to show that she can stand up to him and give it as good as she can get it in real time. She is definitely at a bigger risk here. Trump will gaffe every 30 seconds and nobody will bat an eye. One gaffe by Harris could cost her the election. Trump will be spouting his firehose of lies while Harris won't be able to fact-check 1% in real time. Harris needs to be pretty much perfect from start to finish. Any mistakes can and will be exploited.
For Trump to "win": Expectations are really low here. He's not trying to reach new voters. He opely says he doesn't care about policy. He is doubling down on the racism and misogyny of his base. All he needs to do is control the narrative. Ignore the rules, talk louder, interrupt mid-sentence. It doesn't matter what gibberish he vomits out of his mouth. None of it will cause him to lose a vote. All he needs to do is dictate the narrative and pace of the debate. He solidifies his position among his base as the mysoginist who will put women back where they belong, and gives undecided voters doubt about whether she will be able to handle the pressure. I think as long as Trump forces everybody to play his games by his rules as he usually does, it'll be a "victory" for him. Or at the very least a tie. As long as he can portray himself as the strongman going forward, he's really got nothing to lose.
I hate your analysis, and not because you're wrong.
I understand now why rich people want Trump in office, he’s soft headed and will say or believe anything they want. They basically stroke his ego to get what they want
Flattery and favors!
He's bringing up dictators who love him.
"Orban loves me!"
Apparently, Taylor Swift just responded to AI fakes of her supporting Trump by formally endorsing Harris.
Confirmed. Holy shit.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_wtAOKOW1z/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading
Is she going to eat that cat?
Question was about how Trump would solve the problem in Israel and Palestine. Trump: "Putin!"
Dude is just off the rails.
"THEY'RE LETTING CRIMINALS INTO THE COUNTRY!"
"You get to be sentenced for your crimes in November..."
Yep. Those two quotes are going to be in an ad next to each other.
"concepts"
Bruh you are literally a fucking NEET at this point you have nothing to do but make plans.
Ho ho ho. Going after his fragile ego by saying foreign leaders laughing at him.
He's going to go of the rails.
In other words, I’ll just give Ukraine to Putin.
"so basically you still do not have a plan" 💀
Notice he says he wants the war to end. Not that he wants Russia out of Ukraine. He wants the war to end with Russia getting what Putin wants.
Yeah it was so obnoxiously obvious he danced that question to not piss off his Russian handlers. What a goddamn clown show
Old racist man yells at clouds.
Kamala is his worst nightmare.
A woman like Hilary. A brown person like Obama. And making a mockery of his entitled ass like Obama.
Just need to trigger some rage so she can scare him like Biden did.
I wish they just had 45min clocks, and whenever their microphone are hot, their timer goes down. It would be hilarious to see Trump yelling inaudibly for the last 25min of all debates.
"Stand back and stand by." I'd forgotten that one. God, Trump is so unremittingly awful it's hard to actually keep track of all the horrible shit he says and does.
Remember when that was the most horrifying and insurrectionist thing about trump?
Good times
She's is utterly gutting him. My god, we're watching a massacre.
The Harris campaign is asking about setting up the next debate. No response from the Trump camp so far.
Trump himself previously pushed for 3 debates. Let’s see what his handlers allow him to agree to after this disaster.
They don't get to make the decision. They might beg him to never do another debate again, only for him to walk right out into the hallway and make a public announcement that he's agreed to like 4 other debates because he can't be perceived as having backed down.
Boom! Calling out the fact that flattery and favors work on Trump!
MFW I forgot to turn off inbox replies...
"We are going to have the best economy, she is Joe Biden and we had the highest inflation we've ever seen" - Trump
"Let's compare your economic plan with mine, we're giving tax breaks to small business."
Also, going back to the previous point that Trump lied about several times, Harris nailing the rebuff of Trump's lies that usually just go unchecked on painting Harris as a person that wants to steal guns. Very good.
Also also, Trump's entire closing statement stated one positive thing he did (we rebuilt our military) and the rest of the time was saying why Harris was bad. Harris positioned herself well here.
Trump's getting the pants beat off him. Based on what happened in the most recent debate, I think his next move is to drop out and let Vance run instead.
Couches across the country living in fear right now.
She just actually debated him.
Amazing, given the format, that it's allowed.
You can tell he's so hurt by her saying 81 million people fired him and world leaders are laughing at him
Trump is foaming at the mouth. He's a cornered rat. He's not winning any moderates over with this weak display.
Also, the moderators keep letting him talk and cutting off Harris. I say let him cook himself.
Harris’s campaign needs to meme the shit out of these moments and sound bites. So much good material.
No shit. The "I have concepts"is a freaking gold mine.
A lot is riding on this, given the unprecedented impact of the last debate i expect a lot of people will be watching.
I skipped the one earlier this year and only watched clips from the last couple of elections because they were always boring slogs where neither candidate said anything of substance and their side said they won. It seemed pretty pointless to watch.
This one might break the apathy streak since Harris has gone all in on calling Trump out for being a jackass and it would be fun to watch that live and it is likely the media will just sugar coat Trump's incoherent ramblings like they have on all previous debates.
Moments after the presidential debate ended tonight, the Harris campaign called for a second debate, CNN reports.
rabid squirrel in his broken brain wheel
"BRING UP A DICTATOR TO SAY HOW AWESOME YOU ARE!!!111!!"
"Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people." Boom.
PREACH IT SISTAH!!
This fucker sold out the Afghan government and got soldiers killed because he's incompetent.
Listening to Maddow list off just some of the most recent shit Trump said reminded me of one important thing: I can't wait for the very last time I hear his name in the news.
Captivating speech from Kamala. I really hope Kamala wins this election
Harris has managed to remain optimistic this whole time. I'm genuinely impressed.
I don't know how anyone can watch this and not feel Trump is exposed as being nonsensical and vindictive. I feel hopeful that Kamala is changing plenty of undecided minds, though I wish she'd been able to expand more on policy and less on Trump's lies.
Unfortunately i used to be like these mindless Trump supporters and i can tell you that the kind of person i was before my conversion was not one who would listen to facts that were contradictory to my stance
He keeps talking about "he needs to get in here and sign a bill, he signs a bill the border will be closed". (After going completely non-sequitir about January 6th).
Holy shit. He dead ass thinks he's still debating Biden. Haaaaaaaaaaa
He doesn't even know. He doesn't even know that she is absolutely controlling this. He doesn't even know she's triggering every damn thing he says. This is almost sad.
I can't stop smiling.
This is so American that there are commercials
Meh. Gives an opportunity for pee and water breaks.
"They're eating the dogs! The people... They're eating the cats!"
There's our sound byte for the evening.
She is walking all over his balls in her high heels giggling her motherfucking ass off.
Does he enjoy it? Some people are saying it, many people in fact agree with me.
I ventured over to Twitter to see what Trumpers are mad about...
They're mad the moderators keep fact checking Trump but not fact checking Harris. 🤣
These moderators are only calling out lies! Those biased bastards!
Trump is on Hunter Biden. That's totally relevant to this debate vs Biden....oh fuck...wait...it's Harris now.
She is Biden!!!
Apparently.
only reason this debate is happening because republicans fixed the electoral college in relatively low population states. Trump is a clown and republicans are embarrassing for letting him represent them
Why do they keep opening his mic to let him ramble about nonsense?
Just shows the mute decision was damage control by his campaign not his idea.
"With solar, you need a whole desert. Have you ever seen a solar plant? But I'm a big fan of solar."
Wasting that precious desert soil.
Cut the damn mic
They cut her off but not him.
We saw this with Biden in 2020.
trump keeps screaming until he gets his way. Adults quiet down after being told no.
Yeah, that was shitty
It’d be nice if they held trump accountable for lies and muted him interrupting and talking over
When I heard Kamala Harris had been speaking to Hillary Clinton, I cringed, because Clinton lost. However, it sounds like what she was looking for from Clinton was what to expect from Trump, which is reasonable to ask Clinton about.
Oh, he's pissed now... and she's leading him around by the nose.
I don't think it really hit me how badly our country was doing until I heard Linsey Davis say, "There is no state in our country where it's legal to kill a baby."
She is fucking him up. But his followers will never see it.
His followers were never going to change their vote though.
Undecided voters are the target audience
The way she looks at him while calling him out is great to see. That’s gotta be getting to him.
He said no one died on January 6th except for Babbit. Guess he's anti police.
Kapow! Harris landed a good one. She knew where to hit him: his fragile ego about crowd sizes.
That was nice Billy Madison moment when the moderator reminded Trump he didn't answer the question.
Please please explain tariffs to this man!
Trump looks like complete shit.
How long before someone uploads a game called Spheres of Terra to Steam?
Holy shit. Kamala is killing it. She’s inspiring at this point.
Republicans nerfed Obamacare, you bollard. You KNOW this is a lie. Jeebus.
No he doesn't. He's that dumb.
"I know Putin really well"
Trump lying about how much money his father gave him. Just straight up lying.
‘I’m talking now’ after he’s interrupted her like a dozen times.
"this is why we need a president who is not consistently weak and wrong" 😆
What's the over/under that Trump drops a hard-R?
He won't, but he'll use "black" the same way.
"All of a sudden she turned blaaaaaaack!"
lol “He’s having a hard time processing that”
These moderators are so much better. Holy shit.
Okay. Fuck abc for unmuting him whenever he talks but holy shit the female moderator is doing her job. Fact checking and follow up questions.
Yeah, fuck private insurance. Pay for the privilege of paying for medical care.
How can anyone vote for this guy? He's a glorified nut and liar.
ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION DIRECTLY BRUV
Morning after thoughts:
I'm starting to have genuine hope for November.
My god Trump is utterly deranged. There are millions of people that are still going to vote for him. If he actually wins, we deserve what's coming for allowing ourselves to be so bloody stupefied. It's unreal. Kamala carried herself like a leader.
“They can manipulate you with flattery and favors.” That’s an intelligence assessment IIRC.
Still has no idea what NATO dues are for and how they work, and still wants to be running against Biden.
Spheres of terra.
He just threatened nukes for Russia. What a fucking stooge.
She's laughing at him, amazing.
And Taylor Swift just endorsed Kamala Harris.
No credible reports of animals being hurt. Boom.
Sweet lord The Daily Show writing room must be absolutely overjoyed they have so much Trump material.
They're letting Trump get away with murder here. I expected nothing but am still disappointed. He's basically running with a hot mic while Kamala has to wait for her turn. Unbelievable.
Unsurprisingly he's also bulldozing the hosts in typical fashion. They at least seem to occasionally try some pushback against him, but they seem woefully incapable of actually controlling him.
This tactic was one of the big reasons people voted against him in 2020.
He's looking forward to hitting the beach
"There is no state where it's legal to kill a baby after it's born."
What the fuck is he talking about Russia when taking about Israel-hamas?
Aww. Grumpy trumpy just wants putin to be happier.
Nice, she answered for Trump.
Oh no. He’s gone full nutjob…
Still thinks he's debating Biden.
Trump was fired by 81 million people. Whoa lmao.
"We don't have to fire people because we hire good people the first time."
Ooh mah gawd he did not
"I fired them all! They haven't fired anyone!"
He's still living on a TV show
Oh my god can they pleeeeeaase leave trump's mic off and just let him stew? He's interrupted at least 5 times in a row now.
I knew this was how they're gonna do it, they're gonna let Trump butt in whenever he wants because it drives ratings.
Central Park five case
I did the thumbs down at the screen and then she called it back.
Love Kamala so much. I miss McCain too.
Anyone have a clock on the candidates' speaking times? It feels like Trump is doubling Harris at this point, but maybe it's just because he's so infuriating.
Orban -> pipelines -> Orban. Wtf?
He doesn't know fuck about shit. Lol
Well that was just sad to watch. The take away, Trump has concepts.
Trump definitely doesn't know what a tariff is.
Who had 30 minutes for the O/U on eating pets?
Oof. He just ranted about whether or not Harris is black again.
Trump faceplanted on abortion. Now we're on to immigration!
Yes! Appealing to Polish Americans! Make Trump’s decisions or lack of decisions personal to voters.
Easy question, who should win. He can't answer.
"GIGGLE TALK ABOUT EXTREME!" Ohhhh there's a soundbyte. That laugh gonna live rent free in Trumps head till the day he dies
That "commander in chief" statement from Harris gave me a patriotism boner.
They had no money. For Terra.
Spheres a terra
Doesn’t he look tired?
Such a shame that kid missed.
He is suggesting she go sign a bill to close the border.
She's not president, you cucumber. Not yet.
Finally! A moderator who fucking FOLLOWS UP!
Kamala cracking up at Trump ranting about eating the dogs. LMFAO
Night everyone. :)
Thanks for hosting, @jordanlund!
He keeps repeating she has done nothing at the border but failed to answer the direct question about why he killed the border bill?
The fact-checkers are gonna need a lot of coffee tonight.
There is no mute button apparently
They are letting trump ramble again. Glad the moderator is calling out his lies about pet eating though.
Why they letting him talk?
Never interrupt your enemy when he's fucking his own face.
It's crazy that they need to say that.
He keeps saying shit like "Our country has gone to hell."
Why does he get to rebut her rebuttal???
Trump’s Wharton professor repeatedly called him ‘the dumbest goddamn student I ever had’.
He’s been a leader on the fertilization everyone 😂😂😂
Oh for the love of God, stop letting this guy ramble.
Woo. He CAN hear Kamala laughing her ass off
Not happy that the cop laughed that hard at being accused of supporting defunding the police but the bar is low.
Normal energy plants are normal
Oh. Wow. Worst vice president in us history.
trump hates Kamala more than pence
Holy shit. The hit on his rallies was fantastic.
That face again! What the fuck is it.
Trump just accidentally admitted he thinks there is "some good" in Project 2025.
What the fuck is that face.
Resting stupid face.
Ah! The phantom plan that the Democrats, who weren't in power at all, stopped it!
Would he veto? I guess we'll never know
Every time Trump wants to change what he said, he just pretends he said it sarcastically.
Loved the two solid minutes of dick stomping about 3/4 of the way through, where kamala pointed out trump’s faults as a human being under the guise of criticism of modern political structures
Oh shit he's running with it! The eating cats!
Trump is clearly starting to get rattled. He's going off the rails.
She needs to stay on target.
He brings up the border?
She brings up the fact that he killed the strongest border bill the US has ever had because "it would make Biden look good."
He brings up the cost of things?
His tariffs will raise prices by at least 10% across the board.
He brings up she's soft on crime.
She can bring up that he literally is crime incarnate.
That handshake was awkward
Trump looked like he wanted to avoid it altogether.
Will not answer. Can not answer.
Jump scare
She's definitely going to get the chance to question if Trump knows what a tariff is.
Anyone else having a sinking feeling about this? Feels like a lot is riding on it.
Well, the last debate went so poorly the sitting President dropped out of the race, so... yeah!
Trump's Ukraine solution: "...make others pay for it."
Here comes some Putin felatio.
Right now at the one-hour mark I would say Harris is winning the debate 65/35. But, I think for his supporters and undecideds already leaning his way, this hasn't moved the needle. That's more the result of the fact that his supporters are in the CoOM: Cult of Orange Man.
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/10/presidential-debate-bingo-card-trump-harris
Refreshing that page re-generates the bingo grid....
Here comes that dictator fetish.
Nah he can't just deny a quote he made like that
This is your first exposure to Trump, I take it?
And going for the truth of him being weak.
It seems we know the answer to ‘will it be happy trump or angry trump?’ Angry. Very angry.
I wish someone would ask Trump what a tariff is and how China pays it. They just let him get away with it.
Trump and his handlers just before the debate:
Handler: Mr President... (he insists on being called that by his people) - before you go out there I want you to promise again that you won't bring up the thing about people eating cats and dogs...
Trump: yeah, fine
Handler: Remember how we talked about this? And how you promised that you won't bring it up no matter what happens?
Trump: Yeah, fine, whatever.
Trump whipping out the lie about killing babies after they're born.
And INSTANT smack down by the moderator! Rare debate moderator W
That debate was terrible. Harris pivoted anytime pushed with past positions and glazed war criminals. Trump has no plans or ideas for anything, and is terrible.
"i have concepts of a plan." is one of the funniest things Trump has ever said. I have to use that one next time I don't turn in work.
I think it was quite clear what Harris' objective was here, and that was to make Trump dig his own grave. Trump absolutely fucked up by getting all up in his feels.
One thing I'm trying to be mentally prepared for: Trump doing reasonably well. He's not a good debater, and he's not even going to debate, he's going to try to put on a show. But while the man has very few actual skills, brainless spectacle is one of them. So I'm trying to be prepared for that.
And the moderator having another Billy Madison moment.
Here come the insults. He's cooked. He knows he's cooked.
Weak and wrong. Big oof. Kamala sure knows what words to use here.
Harris is winning this. She's legitimately stomping all over him. I think Trump is starting to get rattled.
Ohhh, just called her a Marxist! LOL!
Trump going on and on with racist immigration views. Racism is all the republicans have at this point. Be scared of the immigrants! They took our jerbs!
Here comes the post-birth abortion lies.
"Weaving" from abortion to... student loans? Boss at the beach? What the fuck is he talking about?
So... This will be the last debate huh? I think Trump is going to go nuclear after this.
I will say the moderator should be a lot stricter on time limits.
His rebuttals are pretty much DARVO. You can also tell he's getting fired up and tripping up.
Infanticide. He just can’t get off that lie.
“You have no plan.”
Trump: random victim card playing
He thinks he can spin Ukraine to his advantage?
Sorority party? What the hell?!
Oh shit. Kamala going for a straight up low blow by talking about trump's low attendance .
Countdown to the n-word
Back to the non-sequitur of pipelines. Dude has a unhealthy fascination about hard pipes flowing sticky liquid.
I’ve already lost count of trump’s lies, and we’re not even 10 minutes in.
Kamala just won the election. Taylor swift just endorsed her after the debate.
What the fuck is he talking about pipelines?
He's rambling and incoherent again. But very angry about it.
45 minutes. I do like the fact that the MSNBC hosts are acknowledging just how stupid the modern "debate" is.
Marxist! Drink.
Fact checking mods is nice to see