Wait... What? Folks In Red States Google Searched 'How To Change My Vote' In Droves After Trump's Victory

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Wait... What? Folks In Red States Google Searched 'How To Change My Vote' In Droves After Trump's Victory
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Of course, let's not let things like knowledge or consequences get in the way of reactionary & spiteful arrogance informed only by propaganda induced fear and hate, emotions know to prevent rational thought /s

The article claims "in droves" then doesn't give a number, or even an estimate.

Yeah, because google is vague.

Not sure what "100" means, but that's what it peaked at.

That is a percentage score. So you take the highest level of searches and it will always be 100% and all lesser scores are in comparison to that score of 100(%). If you can find out what the actual number of searches are for that one score, you can derive the approximate number of searches in the other places. It shows an informational tool tip on desktop.

Well that's less than entirely helpful.

Thank you very much for the explanation!

Your welcome... I liked it when it was Google Zeitgeist and they published hard numbers but since they rebranded and named their video series Google Zeitgeist good luck finding out the actual numbers 🤐

Here are a couple comparisons that maybe give it more relevance:

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Of course its fucking IOWA

Iowa is just where that term was the most popularly searched. However, it was searched in all states.

I explained Google Trends a bit more here if you’re curious.

100 means that’s when the searches hit their most popular peak while 0 means nothing was really searched. Google trends does not show actual search volumes.

Google Trends looks at search terms compared with all searches done (in a specific geographic region and time point). That data is then normalized.

It’s essentially looking at popularity trends of is this hot or not.

Source: I am a former SEO

Edit: here are specifics about what I mentioned above if you’re curious.

But droves though. Droves.

It could have been droves... it also could have been 10 people. It also doesn't say which way they wanted to change their vote. It could all be LIV's who learned something they didn't know after voting early or it could have been people torn about their vote panicking and seeing if they could change their mind.

This doesn't tell you anything but people searched it and not how many.

It doesn't say if it was a metric drove or an imperial drove. Shoddy journalism, if you ask me.

Bloody hell, this is the US version of Brexit... this world would be such a better place if people just did the bare minimum of reading into what they were actually voting for before they fucking voted!

Also, seeing the other top searches being about the tariffs would have me creasing if it weren't so disappointingly stupid that these peoole seemingly knew nothing about Trumps most advertised economic policy before (assumably) voting for him

Whenever I see all the trash on the side of the road, I know why the world is that way.

No, the US version of Brexit was Trump's first term, since they both happened in the same year.

This is just people saying they know exactly how bad Brexit went the first time and they want that again.

I think that most of them do a lot of reading. The problem is that they just read news and info that they like and have no ability to criticise arguments. Critic thinking is the main problem imho.

Americans don’t read. They just want vibes.

i fucking called it.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13331955

turns out the answer to my question is “less than a week”

“Post not found”

Edit: works in browser, only broken in Voyager. Weird.

I’m on Voyager and can see it. They pushed a new update the day before yesterday, and a few things broke for me till I updated (inline images).

Updating your app might fix it.

How are people this stupid?something in the water?

Lead... I'm not kidding.

Don't forget pesticide exposure which eventually has similar effects to lead over time: decreased intelligence and increased aggression

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Some 'murican cities are unironically trying to get rid of fluoride from water. You know, the thing that also goes in toothpaste and is overall good for keeping teeth healthy

RFK Jr, who is likely to be our new head of health and human services, wants to ban it nationally.

Unfortunately RFK isn't all wrong on this one. Recent evidence is showing it is indeed linked to neurological issues... Furthermore the effects are kind of negated by fluoride in the toothpaste.

https://keck.usc.edu/news/fluoride-exposure-during-pregnancy-linked-to-increased-risk-of-childhood-neurobehavioral-problems-study-finds/

The long-awaited report released Wednesday comes from the National Toxicology Program, part of the Department of Health and Human Services. It summarizes [...] that drinking water containing more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter is consistently associated with lower IQs in kids.

[...]

Since 2015, federal health officials have recommended a fluoridation level of 0.7 milligrams per liter of water, and for five decades before the recommended upper range was 1.2. The World Health Organization has set a safe limit for fluoride in drinking water of 1.5.

https://apnews.com/article/fluoride-water-brain-neurology-iq-0a671d2de3b386947e2bd5a661f437a5

These margins are razor thin.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/still-need-fluoride-drinking-water-benefits-may-waning-study-suggests-rcna173790

Respectfully, I'm going to be immediately suspicious of any study that uses IQ as the measuring standard. IQ is not an objective measure of intelligence or cognitive ability. The same person taking the test will probably have a different score every time they take it. I'm not saying fluoride does or does not have an effect on cognitive ability or intelligence. But IQ is hardly going to be the way to figure that out.

Edit: I also don't know how you'd conclude it's fluoride and not literally anything else they're consuming.

Respectfully, maybe read the two linked studies then.

You only linked one? The other is referenced in an article. The way these studies were conducted and the populations used does not immediately translate to fluoride being the issue since that wasn't the only variable. It's worth exploring, but it's really not enough to change decades of dental hygiene improvements.

The researchers analyzed 229 mother-child pairs, calculating fluoride exposure from urine samples collected during the third trimester of pregnancy. Most urine samples were collected from fasting women, which improves the accuracy of chemical testing. Children were then assessed at age three using the Preschool Child Behavior Checklist, which uses parent reports to measure a child’s social and emotional functioning.

Children exposed to an additional 0.68 milligrams per liter of fluoride in the womb were 1.83 times more likely to show behavioral problems considered to be clinically significant or borderline clinically significant. Specifically, children exposed to more fluoride had more problems with emotional reactivity, somatic complaints (such as headaches and stomachaches), anxiety and symptoms linked to autism.

No association was found with several other neurobehavioral symptoms, including “externalizing behaviors” such as aggression and attention problems.

Hmm, they are using a statistic as their study and parental reporting… what with PFOAs, pthalates, microplastics and parabens already present in water linked as endocrine disrupters I wonder how that plays over top of all of this fluoride as well.

Meta analysis are not uncommon.

No association was found with several other neurobehavioral symptoms

You're not swallowing toothpaste. I don't know enough about the effects of fluoride to agree or disagree with the removal. Being a guy with healthy teeth, a ...few years under his belt and living on well water for damn near all of them, I'm pretty comfortable saying leave it in the toothpaste where it'll have fewer unintended consequences

It has been proven in repeated studies that fluoride in the water helps prevent tooth issues for children in low income families.

There is much less fluoride in water than in toothpaste, so the swallowing comparison is a little bit extra.

I don't know enough about the effects of fluoride to agree or disagree with the removal

Then why even comment on it? You realize that there are people who do know a lot about this stuff. Like they've dedicated their lives to studying it. And I imagine you could even find their published research online. You know, like actual science? Do you remember how the scientific method works?

But nah, instead you'll just make an unwarrantedly confident comment about something you know nothing about based on "vibes"

Just like American voters.

Years of GOP meddling with education, which is only gonna nose dive when dept of education gets dismantled

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The relative numbers are worth little without knowing the underlying numbers. If it went from 100 to 700 people, that is still negligble. Also crazy how people immediately take that as a base to remove voters rights unless they pass some sort of test. Nothing could go wrong with stripping voters rights amirite?

For all future elections I suggest we have one voter - me. I promise to deliver the optimally democratic outcome.

This is what we now have, we just decided the one vote goes to donald fucking trump.

Well, that's because the one voter wasn't me.

See how much better my system would be?

I wonder how many of these people are just now realizing that they have immediate family and friends who won’t be here next Christmas.

Or they, themselves, might wind up getting deported or killed. We've successfully eroded class and even group consciousness.

Considering all of the shocking things Trump promised to do once he was elected, people are re-evaluating what they have gotten themselves into.

Sigh...

You broke it, you bought it.

Unfortunately, I’m also being forced to buy it, even though I didn’t break it.

I tried to buy the other one because I didn’t want the broken one. Still stuck buying the broken one.

Once again, these are the a validation headlines that create and support echo chambers. Honestly, what does it matter now?

We already know the regret is strong on this nation and will only get worse.

I do not put it past Russia to troll us like this

Doesn't the article specify where the searches come from?

Russian disinformation groups can probably route their traffic trough US computers they hacked to spoof the IP address.

Is this the "Find out" stage then?

Actions have consequences. Sad people had to figure it out this way.

Sad others among us will have to pay more than those that caused the problem. But such is America and so is history.

Something is seriously wrong with civics education in this country. People in power have no incentive to fix it. At least naturalized citizens have to take a fairly stringent test.

What ya'll upset for now? The economy was so good under Trump! Didn't you want him to deport all those "poisonous" immigrants. He's your retribution. And, besides, it's not like Harris would have been any better, because they're the same anyway.

/s

I love it. America’s last hope and people failed. Fuck this place. Let the civil war begin.

I don’t know how trustworthy these search trends are. For example if you type in “where did I put my” it will complete all kinds of stuff like “keys” and “wallet” and “passport” which seems to imply that people are regularly asking Google where they placed items in their own house.

Suggested search queries have gone down the toilet since llms became a things

This is all bullshit, designed to start another wave of outrage. Even after the election, we've gotta have more stuff to rage about. News these days is just rage all day every day, no matter what.

I've said it the whole election cycle. The news downplayed every Trump gaffe because they wanted him back to fuel the outrage click machine. They wanted that sweet revenue back after 4 boring years of Biden just ya know doing his fucking job.

I had to have new anxiety meds called in because all of the political stuff is sending me into panic attacks. I've been avoiding politics as much as possible since the day after the election because it causes so much anxiety.

What annoying about this information is that we can't say who did that. Is it Harris to trump or trump to Harris or those who voted for other options.

I think we can reason that its more than likely trump to harris. Not just because trump is a terrible person and lies about everything. But mainly because trump won so what need would there be to change a vote from anything else to trump?

You underestimate how much people want to be part of "the winning side".

Especially now with how Trump treated those against him

Well, maybe the second amendment people can do something about it.

I honestly think we should have a 20 question multiple choice basic 8th grade civics quiz before people are allowed to vote. We no longer have an electorate that's informed enough to be capable of voting. Score 60% or higher on that quiz or get the fuck out of the booth.

Edit: I'm incorrect, there's no national requirement that I can find. In CA we can't finish 8th grade without studying and passing a civics test covering this material: https://www.ixl.com/standards/california/social-studies/grade-8. So yeah, I amend my opinion - these standards should be followed nationwide.

Ah, yes. One of those good Jim Crow policies.

It would have to be coupled with assurances that all children are fetting and equal civics education to avoid the whole segregated schools being crappy thing.

Fair enough. IIRC there's a mandatory civics test to complete 8th grade nationwide which was, ostensibly, intended to prevent electoral problems like this

This is false.

At most, I see state level requirements like this

And, yeah, poll tests are classic Jim crow tactics.

Here's an example of what to expect from the red states, especially after the Supreme Court gutted the voting rights act.

Instead of blaming the voters that showed up to vote, please reflect on why 10 million people who voted for Biden simply didn't vote for Harris and think about how elitist thoughts like "being too stupid to vote" in a democracy are the root of the problem.

Instead of calling voters stupid, try to understand why they feel hopeless under the current regime so that the Dems can re-establish the working class solidarity and big tent coalition that gave Obama a confortable majority. There is not path to 270 that can neglect the very real and tangible concerns of those "idiots".

Ah, I'm wrong then. In CA we have to study and pass this in 8th grade: https://www.ixl.com/standards/california/social-studies/grade-8

That should be a national requirement.

nah, man. Being able to vote inalienable. You get the vote by existing, not by meeting some arbitrary standard set by the ruling party. Stop blaming the voters and start blaming the party that failed them

It's possible that there's more than one problem that needs addressing. We're on the same page w.r.t. the Democratic party being an absolute policy failure for decades.

So completely disenfranchise the poor and working class whose education system has been purposefully destroyed by the ruling class, and only let the ruling class vote?

Or maybe actually give them a civics education? I'm behind a free online basic civics class every 2y that gets you a $250 credit on your taxes or something. There has to be a reason to actually take it and pay attention.

Probably queers who are afraid of getting locked in concentration camps trying to go back in the closet out of self preservation tbqh