I love that “No one can stand him” Is a good reason for expulsion. The human trafficking wasn’t enough.
Fucking a teenager is why Republicans want to allow child marriage. His only crime to them was not marrying her after he trafficked her. That's forgivable. Being unbearable might possibly not be.
Rape, fraud, etc is fine because it doesn't affect them. Him causing the Reps to not vote uniformly and needing Dem help is a catastrophe.
His only crime to them was not marrying her after he trafficked her.
Oh, they don't care about that. Conservative men can molest and rape whoever they like with no obligation to marry anybody.
And then something about how it's her own fault and she should have dressed more modestly to avoid checks notes being trafficked and pimped out
Bible also says the rapee must marry the rapist. Surprised the evangelicals aren’t pushing that one too.
And if he isn't a Russian asset, he certainly acts like one.
Of course not, Republicans only pay lip service to children, just ask Dennis Hastert
I mean I loathe all of them too, but the rest of the quote is about his morals, and it's the results of that investigation that they intend to base this on.
Human trafficking is a bonus in their books, but he was mean to them and that will not stand!
Andrew Johnson's impeachment included:
. . . as well before as afterwards, make and declare, with a loud voice, certain intemperate, inflammatory and scandalous harangues, and therein utter loud threats and bitter menaces, as well against Congress as the laws of the United States duly enacted thereby, amid the cries, jeers and laughter of the multitudes then assembled in hearing, which are set forth in the several specifications hereinafter written, in substance and effect . . .
Which is 19th century formal language for "this guy is an asshole".
Mind you, the Senate never voted on this particular article, and Johnson was otherwise acquitted. It remains unclear if you can remove a President for being an asshole, but there is some precedent that suggests you can.
If they aren't getting rid of George Santos they are not getting rid of Matt Gaetz. Honor among theives.
I think the difference is that Santos is willing to go along with whatever the Republicans think will keep their majority. Gaetz is willing to burn it all down if it gets him extra social media points right now.
This isn't really about ethics violations, it's about a Republican threatening his party's chances of keeping power.
I can’t stand just hearing about him in the news, I can’t imagine what it’d be like to work with such a prick in office, knowing the guy is such a sleazebag as he is.
It's kind of conflicting because I hate him, but I also love how much the Republicans (especially McCarthy) hate him.
I think that's the wrong way to look at it. In fact, I would argue that he is a gigantic gift to American politics.
He wants to do nothing other than fuck with McCarthy, and I couldn't be happier about it.
Yes, he is a degenerate scumbag who deserves to be in jail, but as long as he's not locked up, I'm glad he's in Congress completely screwing with the establishment GOP.
I will say this, and unironically, he's a much better politician than any of the squad, or pseudo left-wing Congressperson, because unlike any of them, he actually completely fucks up the program. And before you say he extracted no political wins from his stunt, he did. His entire point was to weaken McVarthy, which he did.
Just think if AOC, Omar, etc., actually used this type of strongarm tactics to push through even a handful of the programs that the Corporate Dems leave tabled, except when they dust them off for a stump speech every two years.
That was a right-wing sympathizing comment in disguise.
The Republicans are just playing dirty among themselves.
"The Squad" is doing alright without stepping down to the level of the Deplorables.
Oh, geez. You got me. My rejoicing on the GOP clusterfuck, and shaming the lack of actual effective leftist members of Congress for failing to effectively fight for actual left wing policies, was actually an elaborate ploy to...
Wait, what am I trying to fool people into believing?
Lol
The squad are working with reasonable people. The expectation that irrational behavior would get them anywhere is laughable.
Politics is an expression of power, not decorum. Something that the GOP recognizes and leverages, just as the corporate Democrats do.
Unfortunately, the GOP expresses that power to pass horrific antidemocratic policies, and cut taxes.
The corporate Dems use it to squash the left, and maintain the current neo liberal economic order.
Gaetz used his to sink, or at least critically damage McCarthy's speakership.
What major political victories have the Squad accomplished?
It's nice that the House has its own Ted Cruz.
"I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz." - Al Franken
Al Franken probably doesn't like Matt Gaetz more than most members of Congress, though.
He has a very punchable face.
There's just something wrong with his face. It's like some alien put together a human but they'd only ever heard descriptions.
Seriously, he looks like the love child of Beavis and Butthead.
And Johnny Neutron's hair crashed the party.
Maybe the aliens got MTV broadcasts in the 90s and think Beavis and Butthead is what average humans look like.
This guy tries to exert way too much influence for someone who only won his last race because both candidates were under active criminal investigation.
Seems like the timing is a little off on the third criminal investigation.
The GOP made their bed with Gaetz, now sleep with him.
Or however that saying goes.
Sorry, the GOP is too old for Gaetz to want to sleep with them.
The average GOP senator is 65+ years old - that's about 10x too old for Gaetz to be interested in sleeping with them.
I don't think they let 13 year old boys be congresspeople.
but only if he pays them using venmo..... and they are 14
A pox on both houses
Let them destroy each other. I'll make popcorn.
I do bite my thumb sir
I fart in their general direction.
No one can stand Gaetz and his inner circle. They are fucking immature assholes.
Some of them literally, I suspect.
That's the joke.
Ahhh yes. Now his politics don't align with yours, his ethics finally matter. Classic.
House republicans hate paedo gaetz in the same way everyone in America hates house republicans. No one can stand any of those pricks either.
I'll believe it when I see it.
No one can stand him? For a lot of us he’s more the face of the Republicans than McCarthy or McConnell
I can't stand any of them
Do Ted Cruz next.
The majority of Texans are down for that. He only wins re-election on the basis he isn't a Democrat. No one on either side likes him, the Republicans just tolerate him.
The fact that he keeps getting re-elected proves that the majority of Texans don't feel that way, at least not enough to vote.
Organizationally the GOP has a lot of respect for an established and convincing liar.
So then why do they protect Santos? He's about as convincing as a manic 3rd grader.
They protect him because he's a republican. Any democrat would be skewered relentlessly by the right for the same accusations as Santos but so long as he votes with the GOP they will hold their fire.
Cause George knows to shut the fuck up and vote properly, they care fuck all about who the politician is as long as they vote along party lines.
He's positioning himself to be speaker, that's why.
The plan I heard shortly after the election was to make Trump Speaker, then impeach Biden and Harris to make him President again.
But you may be right. Gaetz is arrogant enough to try and adapt the plan for himself.
He can try but he'll never collect more than five votes.
You can tell his momlab attendant drank quite a bit while he was in vitro.
Just compile a list of things he accuses Democrats of, and you know what to look for in his case.
Right? The projection is crazy.
I'm sure Faux News will hire DollarStore Beavis right away.
Get it straight--he looks more like Dollar Store Butthead.
If he's against the party I see Fox news turning on him very shortly
They're about to pay out the ass to Smartmatic. They won't be able to afford him.
If they do and don't elect a Republican to replace him, and if they expel Santos and his replacement in the special election isn't a republican, there goes the GOP majority
Odds of the house GOP giving up their majority/control are exceedingly low. If there's one thing they'll prioritize, it's keeping their own power
I increasingly believe that they don't actually care. For the hardliners, keeping a majority is like a distant second place motivation to just keeping their own jobs, and they are under bigger threat from the right in these districts. Really, the house majority probably ranks like third or fourth somewhere between "get book deal where the RNC buys 100k copies" and "take bribes from Russia." All things which are arguably easier as an opposition party which doesn't actually have to govern.
How very...Late Roman Republic.
Dude is literally Rudy Russo from Used Cars (1980).
Just a plain scumbag salesman trying to be a Senator.
Can I just volunteer to live in the state primarily populated by cows? That sounds wonderful. Cows make better neighbors then most people. Maybe I can vote a cow in as our state representative.
That town in Alaska had a cat as their mayor for years.
Yup we should sell it off as it's just a loss. Sell it to Mexico.
Give it to Cuba as reparations for the embargo lasting 30 years after the Soviet Union fell.
An ethics report on a House Republican? How does that work, as they would not notice ethical bahavior even if it bit them in the ass?
So the useful idiot has served his purpose and is no Ionger useful?
I love that “No one can stand him” Is a good reason for expulsion. The human trafficking wasn’t enough.
Fucking a teenager is why Republicans want to allow child marriage. His only crime to them was not marrying her after he trafficked her. That's forgivable. Being unbearable might possibly not be.
Rape, fraud, etc is fine because it doesn't affect them. Him causing the Reps to not vote uniformly and needing Dem help is a catastrophe.
Oh, they don't care about that. Conservative men can molest and rape whoever they like with no obligation to marry anybody.
And then something about how it's her own fault and she should have dressed more modestly to avoid checks notes being trafficked and pimped out
Bible also says the rapee must marry the rapist. Surprised the evangelicals aren’t pushing that one too.
And if he isn't a Russian asset, he certainly acts like one.
Of course not, Republicans only pay lip service to children, just ask Dennis Hastert
I mean I loathe all of them too, but the rest of the quote is about his morals, and it's the results of that investigation that they intend to base this on.
Human trafficking is a bonus in their books, but he was mean to them and that will not stand!
Andrew Johnson's impeachment included:
Which is 19th century formal language for "this guy is an asshole".
Mind you, the Senate never voted on this particular article, and Johnson was otherwise acquitted. It remains unclear if you can remove a President for being an asshole, but there is some precedent that suggests you can.
If they aren't getting rid of George Santos they are not getting rid of Matt Gaetz. Honor among theives.
I think the difference is that Santos is willing to go along with whatever the Republicans think will keep their majority. Gaetz is willing to burn it all down if it gets him extra social media points right now.
This isn't really about ethics violations, it's about a Republican threatening his party's chances of keeping power.
I can’t stand just hearing about him in the news, I can’t imagine what it’d be like to work with such a prick in office, knowing the guy is such a sleazebag as he is.
It's kind of conflicting because I hate him, but I also love how much the Republicans (especially McCarthy) hate him.
I think that's the wrong way to look at it. In fact, I would argue that he is a gigantic gift to American politics.
He wants to do nothing other than fuck with McCarthy, and I couldn't be happier about it.
Yes, he is a degenerate scumbag who deserves to be in jail, but as long as he's not locked up, I'm glad he's in Congress completely screwing with the establishment GOP.
I will say this, and unironically, he's a much better politician than any of the squad, or pseudo left-wing Congressperson, because unlike any of them, he actually completely fucks up the program. And before you say he extracted no political wins from his stunt, he did. His entire point was to weaken McVarthy, which he did.
Just think if AOC, Omar, etc., actually used this type of strongarm tactics to push through even a handful of the programs that the Corporate Dems leave tabled, except when they dust them off for a stump speech every two years.
That was a right-wing sympathizing comment in disguise.
The Republicans are just playing dirty among themselves.
"The Squad" is doing alright without stepping down to the level of the Deplorables.
Oh, geez. You got me. My rejoicing on the GOP clusterfuck, and shaming the lack of actual effective leftist members of Congress for failing to effectively fight for actual left wing policies, was actually an elaborate ploy to...
Wait, what am I trying to fool people into believing?
Lol
The squad are working with reasonable people. The expectation that irrational behavior would get them anywhere is laughable.
Politics is an expression of power, not decorum. Something that the GOP recognizes and leverages, just as the corporate Democrats do.
Unfortunately, the GOP expresses that power to pass horrific antidemocratic policies, and cut taxes.
The corporate Dems use it to squash the left, and maintain the current neo liberal economic order.
Gaetz used his to sink, or at least critically damage McCarthy's speakership.
What major political victories have the Squad accomplished?
It's nice that the House has its own Ted Cruz.
"I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz." - Al Franken
Al Franken probably doesn't like Matt Gaetz more than most members of Congress, though.
He has a very punchable face.
There's just something wrong with his face. It's like some alien put together a human but they'd only ever heard descriptions.
Seriously, he looks like the love child of Beavis and Butthead.
And Johnny Neutron's hair crashed the party.
Maybe the aliens got MTV broadcasts in the 90s and think Beavis and Butthead is what average humans look like.
It is like his facial features are clustered in the center of his face
But also, like what's wrong with his eyebrows?
It's got some uncanny valley flaws to it, like a poorly trained AI model.
Yes, his face is too small for his head
It's the face of an actual sexual predator. If it was the 80s, he'd have thick wide lensed glassed and a moustache.
This guy tries to exert way too much influence for someone who only won his last race because both candidates were under active criminal investigation.
Seems like the timing is a little off on the third criminal investigation.
The GOP made their bed with Gaetz, now sleep with him.
Or however that saying goes.
Sorry, the GOP is too old for Gaetz to want to sleep with them.
The average GOP senator is 65+ years old - that's about 10x too old for Gaetz to be interested in sleeping with them.
I don't think they let 13 year old boys be congresspeople.
but only if he pays them using venmo..... and they are 14
A pox on both houses
Let them destroy each other. I'll make popcorn.
I do bite my thumb sir
I fart in their general direction.
No one can stand Gaetz and his inner circle. They are fucking immature assholes.
Some of them literally, I suspect.
That's the joke.
Ahhh yes. Now his politics don't align with yours, his ethics finally matter. Classic.
House republicans hate paedo gaetz in the same way everyone in America hates house republicans. No one can stand any of those pricks either.
I'll believe it when I see it.
No one can stand him? For a lot of us he’s more the face of the Republicans than McCarthy or McConnell
I can't stand any of them
Do Ted Cruz next.
The majority of Texans are down for that. He only wins re-election on the basis he isn't a Democrat. No one on either side likes him, the Republicans just tolerate him.
The fact that he keeps getting re-elected proves that the majority of Texans don't feel that way, at least not enough to vote.
this party supports and protects George Santos.
Organizationally the GOP has a lot of respect for an established and convincing liar.
So then why do they protect Santos? He's about as convincing as a manic 3rd grader.
They protect him because he's a republican. Any democrat would be skewered relentlessly by the right for the same accusations as Santos but so long as he votes with the GOP they will hold their fire.
Cause George knows to shut the fuck up and vote properly, they care fuck all about who the politician is as long as they vote along party lines.
He's positioning himself to be speaker, that's why.
The plan I heard shortly after the election was to make Trump Speaker, then impeach Biden and Harris to make him President again.
But you may be right. Gaetz is arrogant enough to try and adapt the plan for himself.
He can try but he'll never collect more than five votes.
I can't stand looking at his stupid face either
He looks like a big toe with a face.
He has a very punchable face.
You can tell his
momlab attendant drank quite a bit while he was in vitro.Just compile a list of things he accuses Democrats of, and you know what to look for in his case.
Right? The projection is crazy.
I'm sure Faux News will hire DollarStore Beavis right away.
Get it straight--he looks more like Dollar Store Butthead.
If he's against the party I see Fox news turning on him very shortly
They're about to pay out the ass to Smartmatic. They won't be able to afford him.
If they do and don't elect a Republican to replace him, and if they expel Santos and his replacement in the special election isn't a republican, there goes the GOP majority
Odds of the house GOP giving up their majority/control are exceedingly low. If there's one thing they'll prioritize, it's keeping their own power
I increasingly believe that they don't actually care. For the hardliners, keeping a majority is like a distant second place motivation to just keeping their own jobs, and they are under bigger threat from the right in these districts. Really, the house majority probably ranks like third or fourth somewhere between "get book deal where the RNC buys 100k copies" and "take bribes from Russia." All things which are arguably easier as an opposition party which doesn't actually have to govern.
How very...Late Roman Republic.
Dude is literally Rudy Russo from Used Cars (1980).
Just a plain scumbag salesman trying to be a Senator.
"Come on, trust me!"
Hope they pull the trigger simultaneously.
https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/8a314411-14ca-49c6-b706-734077e1ef2e.jpeg
I was picturing the Reservoir Dogs scene. I'll take either.
Oh, how I would love to see this.
I say we go further and just get rid of Florida all together.
If we could invent something like a Valdosta Canal connecting Mobile to Savannah, I'd be in to that.
Currently my dream is just to get rid of the Confederate states while keeping the port of New Orleans and navigation rights to the Mississippi River. Then merge all of the states in the middle of the country that have more cows than people into a single state.
Then we're be ready to rock.
Can I just volunteer to live in the state primarily populated by cows? That sounds wonderful. Cows make better neighbors then most people. Maybe I can vote a cow in as our state representative.
That town in Alaska had a cat as their mayor for years.
Yup we should sell it off as it's just a loss. Sell it to Mexico.
Give it to Cuba as reparations for the embargo lasting 30 years after the Soviet Union fell.
An ethics report on a House Republican? How does that work, as they would not notice ethical bahavior even if it bit them in the ass?
So the useful idiot has served his purpose and is no Ionger useful?