I would sooner rather buy a bag of actual deluxe dog shit than an NFT.
It can at least have some kind of utility. Like hurling it at NFT bros, for example.
At least with the dog shit you actually own something.
At least you keep your eyesight.
This is the true meme
"Apple users" is a bit harsh, the fans can definitely get this culty but it's not like the functional-but-overpriced hardware is literal shit. Someone else said NFT "investors", I'd go for fashion people who spend hundreds on a sweatshop-produced t-shirt which just has the logo of the company that's ripping them off on it (which to be fair does describe some people's relationship with Apple!)
Ho ho ho, what a funny joke item.
Eh, itโs the cult of personality that goes with the CEO, too. Jobs worshippers, Musk worshippers, whatever. Defending billionaires and corporations that donโt even know the personโs name, or care.
Steve Jobs has been dead for years and I barely hear anyone mention him these days.
True. Nfts fit this better.
Android User here. Never owned any Apple device.
But they're fucking good quality. Anyone can see that. So what's the problem?
I like Android 'cos I like dicking about with it. Some people don't want to dick about with their phones, they want to do other stuff that could be more interesting.
I carry 2 phones because I have a government job, so if any work is done on my phone it becomes subject to Open Records requests. If I have to carry 2 phones I might as well have both operating systems.
So my personal phone is Android and my work phone is an iPhone.
I don't understand how people prefer iPhones. The hardware is nice, but the OS is horrible. They came up with some neat stuff in 2008, but it feels like they haven't improved much since then. Even informing the greater flexibility of Android - it's just easier to use. Hell, just turning wifi or Bluetooth on and off is a hassle on the iPhone versus a single swipe and tap on Android.
Hell, just turning wifi or Bluetooth on and off is a hassle on the iPhone versus a single swipe and tap on Android.
What on earth are you talking about? Iโm not going to claim Apple invented it (because they likely stole it from another os like android) but theyโve had the single swipe down control panel on iOS to turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, airplane mode, etc for like a decade+. I have Apple devices, and trust me, thereโs plenty to shit on without making stuff up.
What he's talking about is probably that turning off WiFi via quick settings or whatever it's called doesn't actually turn off WiFi, you still have to proceed all the way to the settings app.
I owned and used a iPhone xs for a number of years. I can assure you that pressing the little WiFi icon in the control centre does the same thing as my Samsung galaxy s21 5g and various other android devices previous to the iPhone xs does and if all fails then you can always turn on airplane mode
That may be true, I used to be an iPhone Xs user before my Pixel 7, and it used to drive me crazy seeing blue WiFi icon turning white, as opposed to turning the module off completely in the settings, when the icon becomes transparent.
It is nitpicking though, for sure. I have tons of other, more significant complaints about iOS, I was just clarifying what it may have been that the other person was complaining about.
Edit: Moreover, until you deliberately tell your phone to NOT automatically turn on WiFi after an hour or two, it will decide for itself that the time has come and it can drain your battery now.
The problem is that they only disconnect. They don't actually turn off. You have to go into the settings for that.
When you toggle the Wi-Fi or Bluetooth buttons in Control Center, your device immediately disconnects from Wi-Fi and Bluetooth accessories. Both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth will continue to be available
Turning off WiFi is as easy as gesturing to the control centre then clicking the WiFi button it's as easy as android devices where you swipe down from where the notch is and click on the WiFi button
Except when I swipe down and it opens the notification window or Siri shortcuts or just a blank screen with a clock on it.
It's not consistent.
I used an iPhone xs for about a year and a half before clumsily dropping my phone and it sadly coming to its demise and I've never had this happen to me. Prehaps I'm lucky. Although knowing lemmy someone probably just made this shit up
Nailed it. My thoughts exactly
I think the problems include the fact that an actual apple computer starts at 1000 and going higher than 8GB of RAM and 256G of storage costs you another 1000 because hardware isn't really modular and storage and ram are a huge tool of market segmentation.
Meanwhile a traditional desktop starts at $7000.
It's like they have lifted everything but the absolutely cheapest market segments out of reach of virtually any normal folks.
going higher than 8GB of RAM and 256G of storage costs you another 1000
These are the things i look at when reviewers talk about apple "taking gaming serious now" and im just like what.
As someone who does animation, apple has been terrible for work. Because they take forever to render CGI, compared to my personal gaming computer. Same thing with simple video editing. Having a powerful GPU is pretty nice for work. And because apple is overpriced. I've found gaming rigs that are cheaper and do a better job, on top of being more intuitive. Seriously I can't do anything without the windows search bar. It's really nice being able to just type in the settings I want to change. And have the OS take me directly there.
Pretty much this for me too. Switched to iphone because I no longer wanted to tinker, switched my work laptop to apple silicon because the battery life and performance is stellar.
Learned to be fine with mac os, do most things in terminal anyway. Will likely switch to asahi linux when it is stable enough that I donโt have to tinker, because tinkering gets in the way of actually getting things done in my situation.
Also, being real: running LLMs on my mac is great. 128gb of unified memory basically means 120gb of vram. Itโs absurdly expensive, but nothing quite like it exists in the market right now.
Apple has that break the lense on a camera and your phone starts to brick it's self as it thinks it's been repaired by someone who's not apple
High quality until you drop it once and the entire screen shatters. High quality until your lightning cable breaks. High quality until planned obsolescence renders it unusable. Nah Apple products are pure ass lmao, literally no reason to ever buy one unless it's got some exclusive artsy software you really like (and even then there's prob something just as good for windows or Linux). As far as bang for your buck goes I can't think of a worse choice than Apple in any given field
I fucking hope it is good quality for that price.
Idk every apple product I've touched always felt pretty thin and flimsy. Don't even get me started on Mac mice. They're so cheaply made you don't get a second mouse button. The Mac books are so fragile you can break them by looking at them wrong. The only time I've ever seen a iPhone that doesn't have a crack in the screen is when they are brand new. Maybe I'm a bit of a farmer for considering rigidity the definition of high quality, but god how do one button mice feel good.
I tried Android with the S10 for a little over a year. It felt too clunky and everything I wanted to customize would have required jailbreaking, which feels too much like work for me. I went back to iPhone after that.
Every whale in a P2W game.
So what you're saying is that low level workers are socialised to feel like lesser (even though the pandemic really proved who actually matters in the scheme of the whole job system) and also feel trapped by the design of the employment system, under capitalism and angrily try to take some ground back by having just one nice thing, bought with the feeling of pride, but are actually accidentally buying into the system that oppresses them.
Yes. Pride in materialism is a horrible vice to fall for.
I wish people didn't care what technology other people choose to buy.
Bluechecks
that's one of the arguments I saw in favour of sync
Any company that lets me take control of my hardware and software is welcome to me
Yeah not Apple. They limit you to their ecosystem while Android lets you do literally whatever the fuck you want. Don't want to pay for an app in the app store? Then don't. Don't want to use the default home screen environment? Then change it. I could go on but I mean it's pretty obvious at this point.
Yep. I've been an Android girl since the beginning. The only Apple product I ever had was a free iPad my husband's job gave us because they were pushing Apple products on everyone because that's how they spy on everyone. Oh but Android spies on us too but at least we have all the benefits you mentioned above.
And technically there are ways (using some of the above mentioned stuff) to turn off those kinds of security and spyware stuff while Apple is known for buttons that say things like "stop tracking data" or similar that do literally nothing.
"We decided this app is too old for your device, so it is disabled with no way of enabling it"
~Sinisterly Apple
I want to break free off APPLE and I canโt because I love this app called CLIPS.
Itโs a video editing app that allows me to hold down the button and take a few seconds of video. Lift finger, video stops recording. Hold button down again and the next clip connects to previous. And so on. Also a ton of great filters.
Addicted to it.
Please show me the android alternative.
Not kidding. I can stop being a shit eater for this.
Don't most camera apps have a pause button you can use while filming that gives the same result? Or am I missing something?
using that website without JS was definitely a surprise lol
I shall give it a try.
Samsungs have this built in natively. Press record. Press pause to pause. Press record for more. Press stop to finish.
If you want the exact UX, then I dunno.
I just checked and my Pixel 7 Pro has it too.
Vastly superior to Apple UX โ must be why they invented this CLIPS app
What? You mean iPhones can't pause while recording a video and then continue recording... or is there some other utility I'm missing about this Clips app?
Clips app is pretty fancy. Iโve only really used it for this functionality and havenโt seen anything that does what it does.
snapchat director mode?
Do you know if it allows downloading to my camera roll and uploading to anywhere but Snapchat?
i for sure have downloaded content from snapchat to my camera roll before and uploaded elsewhere.. but i don't use it much so i can't say this 100% but i believe you can
I assumed this was about Twitter blue checks, I think I prefer that interpretation.
It can be about most premium services nowadays thanks to enshittification.
No one cares more about what devices people who use iPhones use than Android Users.
I had a stroke reading that.
Guess it's hard to type coherently when you're eating shit
Aw he's Jaymes. From "Literature Cafe"
Except I've experienced the exact opposite. The iPhone users are the ones who complain about android users messing up their iMessage chats while simultaneously being too fucking stupid to realize it's Apple who is screwing them.
Wow, thatโs pretty major oppression there. You should seek out a therapist to help you deal with your trauma.
Zoomer itoddlers clearly care because of all the message color bullshit
Everything is commodified, even shit
It is BFWAV or BFSTP/BFSTM not WAV.
The only thing that is shit about iPhones besides the price is ENROLLING THEM IN FUCKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. Verizon, answer my fucking requests for auto enrollment. Fuck Apple Configurator 2.
Youโre voluntarily using DEP in ABM, itโs not forced on you by Apple. What youโre complaining about is only tangentially related to Apple and unrelated to this post. Imagine complaining about a thing that keeps you employed.
How is it voluntary? From what I read I need to use DEP and ABM to put apple products into things like an MDM unless the carrier I'm purchasing from approves some sort of auto enrollment form.
And I have plenty to do at my work place without enrolling iphones into mdms
Apple user here. Can confirm. My excuse is that Apple knows its shit and I am at the period of my life where just thinking about SUDO gives me allergy. So, as long as I do not have to deal with that shit, I am OK paying for this shit. Hell, I am paying for ChatGPT so that it does internet search for me and summarizes the results for me. My time is more valuable for me than dealing with that shit.
Not suggesting that my way is right way. Many people do like to play with that shit, customize it, fine tune. Those are not users for apple ecosystem. To each their own shit. It is nice to have a choice of shit.
I'm not a part of the apple ecosystem, but i have the same attitude towards tech these days. I dont want to be spending time debugging and tuning stuff just to get it working. Tech is tools, that shit just needs to work, fuck tinkering with everything just to get it working properly.
I feel the same, but find things getting shittier and shittier. I'm paying more and more for less and less. Then I stumble on an open source project that does all that I want and it's free.
Bitwarden vs LastPass
Joplin vs Evernote
A million different foss projects for all the shit Google has shut down...
Sometimes spending a little time setting stuff up, ends up saving a huge hastle migrating away from the commercial project that is going to fail unless they fuck over their users.
Yeah i do also use a bit of FOSS, and it has been increasing lately, but I still stick to projects with as little fidgeting required as possible.
Yup. I do this shit for a living and wonder how mundanes deal with some of these issues
I'm so lost here... Have you ever even tried using a brand new Android phone, or Windows computer? Your comment suggests that no, no you have not.
Like, hey, you do you. Mac and iOS are totally fine. But don't spread nonsense about Apple being easier. It's not easier in any way. In fact, I genuinely find iOS to be more complicated in recent years.
You do not need to "tune" an android phone or windows computer. Like... I honestly don't know what that even means.
I own and fix all types of devices, and apple devices are often some of the most problematic. They do NOT "just work", but you know what that's from? It's from Apple's marketing campaign rolled out years ago by Steve Jobs.
Did you even read my comment? In the very first sentence i say "i am not a part of the apple ecosystem...i said tech (both HW and SW) needs to be easy and ready to go out of the box, i didn't say android phones and Windows weren't. It was mostly a comment towards FOSS alternatives which are often not.
You replied to someone that strongly asserted that non-Apple devices are convoluted, difficult to use, and confusing. You did so by agreeing that you also hate difficult to use, confusing, and convoluted technologies.
This struck me as disingenuous. I apologize if you are, indeed, not an Apple fan in an active state of disingenuity. This said, if you are to be believed, then I don't understand what your comment was adding to the conversation here. Was your entire point truly that you simply dislike confusing technology? Did that really need to be said?
I'm so confused... Do you think android and/or windows users use sudo? That's a Linux thing... Macs run on an off-shoot of Linux.
Android and iOS are very similar to all "basic" users. Android simply allows super users (ironically this is related to sudo) to use commands if they reeeaaally want to. Although, to be fair, you need an unlocked phone for that.
Normies, are just allowed third party apps like ReVanced that let you skip YouTube ads for free. Do you not like that ability? If so, you can pay. Google loves that. Google owns Android. We've done a loop-dee-loop now, I do believe.
I admittedly know less about Android today. But I chose iOS when Android was quite bad. With iPhone I am not afraid, for example that if I lose or break it, then I need to spend any significant amount of time to setup new iPhone. Couple clicks and the new phone is in exactly in the same state as the old one. Same apps, same files, everything. Maybe Android become better today, I do not know for sure. But I heard enough of the stories from my friends about difficulties because the new Android phone runs Android of different version than the old phone, so, some programs are missing, some things are different and so on.
With Windows, while it is also becoming better, it is still plagued with some hardware driver bugs, etc. For half a year, for example, my computer would just refuse to go to sleep automatically. I tried everything I could find on internet - no luck. Then one day, it just fixed itself for no reason. The update system also for some reason fails to install some updates. And the sound output constantly switches to monitor speakers which I do not have.
My iMacs - zero issuers. They just work. My iPhones - zero issues. My iPads - zero issues. Single convenient ecosystem. Oh, add Apple Watch there as well.
With iPhone I am not afraid, for example that if I lose or break it, then I need to spend any significant amount of time to setup new iPhone. Couple clicks and the new phone is in exactly in the same state as the old one. Same apps, same files, everything.
That is exactly how Android phones work as well, and they have for many years. I think my last phone that needed a third party app to do things like transfer contacts was the Samsung Galaxy S4 (2013).
I recommend you check out the competition. I say this purely because I want more consumers to be critical of big brands and their latest offerings. If everyone intelligently assessed devices when they came out without a bias, I genuinely believe all of the devices we use (Apple, Google, Samsung, etc.) would be far better in just about every way, including their price.
Instead, Apple has set a long-standing precedent amongst the majority of their user-base that their devices are so good you don't need to compare them against their own competition. This has been so successful that it's led to other companies like Samsung and Google to adopting Apple "design choices" (non-replacable batteries, sealing devices so they are difficult or impossible to repair, removing the headphone jack, etc.) that end up being incredibly bad for all of us consumers.
The latest phones these days are a joke. Google, Apple, Samsung... they are pretty much ALL jokes that are nearly identical to the previous years model.
You are talking about hardware. I am talking about ecosystem.
I used Linux at home and work for 15 years - 1998 through 2013 - and finally I was Jesus fucking Christ, I donโt want to spend 5 hours configuring a video card ever again, and bought a MacBook. Itโs funny these days seeing people โI USE ARCH BROโ because I know I could but I just donโt get enjoyment out of it these days. Same with phones. I couldnโt give less of a fuck about rooting my phone or running a custom ROM.
Hell, I am paying for ChatGPT so that it does internet search for me and summarizes the results for me
Does ChatGPT even do this? I thought it was trained on a closed data set from 2021. While it can learn new things through conversation, it doesn't actually search the internet anymore. Right? It's literally just predictive text on your phone. It's supposed to make you feel like it's answering you but it's all smoke & mirrors.
The paid version does that. The data set is expanded to sometime in 2023 and it actually browses internet when needed using bing as search engine. It does lots of other interesting things, such as uses Dall-E to draw images when needed, or uses python and executes the code in background when needed (but you can check it). For example, if you ask a numerical question that requires solution of equations, it will do it in python. An example of such question I recently asked is โat what temperature the value in Kelvin and Fahrenheit is the same?โ
Ah shit here we go again...
You sound like a poor piece of shit
/sarcasm
The โomg I haet Apple guysโ cult is much stronger than the supposed โwow I love Appleโ cult.
Maybe here specifically. But there are a lot of real people (mostly young women and teenagers but not exclusively) that would never consider coming to Lemmy or even reddit when that was a thing, who refuse to get close to anyone that doesn't have the "blue" text
Meanwhile on Reddit /r/apple regularly makes frontpage and /r/technology /r/gadgets only make frontpage if it's related to apple. And windows and Microsoft news is barely ever relevant
Makes sense as iPhones beat Android in market share in the US, and there is only one manufacturer compared to half a dozen for Android phones. I just think the โomg apple worshipping fanboyโ thing is a bit outdated. Most people donโt care that much.
Tell me how you really feel
Haha le apple bad
Coming from Windows for decades, my M1 Mac is the most stable, battery sipping machine I've ever had. Shrug...
So true!
I am a kind of laptop addict. I sell and purchase laptops every 6 months or so. I've tried everything on the Windows side, and have had the most beautiful machines in my possession, but they all had some critical flaw that made me look at my work laptop (Macbook Pro M1) and think... "I get it"
They currently have a monopoly on the best computing experience, that's why it costs so much. The developer experience is 10 times better than Windows, but it's doesn't suffer the lack of software support that Linux does. It has the best battery life BY FAR of any laptop, which is important to people like myself who find themselves working on trains and planes. And the overall build quality and performance is so good that it can be resold 5 years later for 75% of the original price.
This has to be some kind of joke, right? I have an M1 macbook through my job and it is absolutely horrible. For starters, the file system is absolutely horrible and "dumbed down" and requires you to learn special button-combinations to even find files, the UI in general is "form over function" times 100, and ooooh the horror of not having snappable windows. Also the fan is horribly loud and is often at 100% due to the terrible thermals. Sounds like a jet engine.
I've had it for over 2 years now and use it daily but it still feels like I have to battle and force it to be able to do what I want. The trackpad is nice though!
I have not heard the fans once in over a year of heavy use, I'm starting to doubt they exist. Fan noise is a far more prevalent issue with Windows machines so I'm very curious to know how you've managed to convince the fans to spin up at all, let alone at a high volume.
No window snapping is a glaring omission, but easily resolved with a 3rd party app.
Fortunately as a programmer I hardly use Finder, but yes it's not very intuitive.
I could list fifty problems each with Windows, Mac OS and Linux, but am comfortable enough with all of them because I adapt to their weaknesses (the ones that can be adapted to anyways).
Also a programmer :) I still wanna be able to actually browse my file system with a GUI at times. I don't think "oh but you could just use the terminal" is an acceptable solution to such a monumental part of an OS
Dunno how you manage that with the fans. Everyone where I work has the same complaint. It was even worse at my old job that used the intel macbook pros that were before the m1, the fan was even louder and would always stick to 100% after a while, like it couldn't adjust itself and just ran at full speed. We couldn't really solve it either.
Anyways, the os is just way to clunky and developer-unfriendly for me. We're actively trying to get new laptops so that we can finally ditch these macbooks. Maybe if we were frontend-only they would be more suitable?
What if I told you that they cost the same amount, but windows users are subsidized via in-OS advertising.
I mean, decades ago, I would agree with this meme but these daysโฆ windows needs to be put down.
I've never seen a single ad in windows. I keep hearing they are coming... But so far it's just a few predatory practices failing to convince me to use their stupid browser.
Same,this starts to look like paranoia imo.
I think it's just Linux people trying to poison the well. I'm not even mad, haha.
But like, I'm not joining the lie, either. Some day it could happen, though, and on that day sign me up for a pitchfork.
If youโve managed to disable all ads on windows please share your setup and how youโve managed that.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about... what ads are you seeing? Where are they?
The only "ads" I see for windows come after updates in the form of "Would you like to use our "new" "EDGE" Browser?!" To which the options are "YES I WOULD FUCK YEAH" (size 40 font) and "no thanks" (size 8 font). I hate that, but it's only happened once or twice so far.
Go into settings and look for all the tracking and ad personalisaton features. now go find a similar option in OSX or Linux, you wonโt find one. This is because windows is subsidized by ads. similar to NetZero but you still have to pay for it. You can continue to disable these features but my point is I donโt even want the option to view more ads from a product I already bought.
What about the ads in the start menu? For candy crush or tiktok
I've never seen these before... can you share a screenshot? That sounds fucking awful!
Which they've only been doing for... checks watch...30 years.
Whatโs your secret? One quick way to see ads is to click on the weather in the bottom right corner. I have done all of these things but, like the commenters in that link have mentioned, none of them work.
You can just right click on the task bar and turn that feature off... I've done it in close to 1000 Windows machines at this point.
Windows updates bring it back. Iโve done it again for now. But as you have comfirmed, there are ads in windows 10.
If you open up the app store, there are ads... Pretty sure Apple has some integrated "news and interests" equivalent feature that also serves ads.
Also, my windows update has not turned the news and interests back on. Maybe you're doing something wrong?
I an running windows inside linux. i am absolutely doing something wrong, but thatโs besides the point. OS ads hit differently than in-app ads. Also when I remove or disable a feature, it should stay dead, unlike the search bar that gets resurrected at next windows update.
Is that Windows OS persistent and you apply updates to it, or are you creating a new updated image every time an update comes out? Not sure how you are managing your windows OS on Linux, but if you loading a fresh OS each time, then it would make sense that the default options would get reset each time.
Have you ever opened the start menu? There are ads there. Unless youโre using some release like LTSC or have a network-level Adblock there are ads in there. For TikTok, candy crush, Disney+, etc. itโs like the preinstalled bloat on some androids, theyโre just ads you have to annoyingly remove from your start menu.
I just did and I have no idea what you're talking about. All I see are my pinned apps and recently used files.
Iโm sure you have the options disabled that show this kind of stuff but it doesnโt mean itโs not there. Anyone who is not tech savvy (99% of the population) will have no clue how to turn this stuff off or that itโs even an option.
I guarantee any PC sold by any big box store or on Amazon will come with this stuff enabled by default.
haha WHOA, that SUCKS.
I've never had that, though... not on my Windows machines (plural). Did you buy your machine from a manufacturer like HP? It just feels like something HP would do... never buy HP anything, everyone (even if this specific event isn't their fault).
Edit: This isn't your image... it's from Reddit and it's from SIX years ago.
The setting is still on my Windows 10 PC. Itโs still relevant since theyโre still shipping it with Windows.
That sounds horrible... I've never seen these, though. I don't use anything special so far as I know. I'm on Windows 10 on one computer I run all day, and Windows 11 for the one I use all evening.
Assuming you're not making this up, could Microsoft be rolling these out only to specific individuals for a trial run, or something? I don't even have Windows Pro...
Or... actually... I built my computers from the ground up. Did you buy yours from HP, Dell, or another manufacturer? Could THEY be putting ads into their updates somehow?
The difference is Windows users can install Linux or disable advertising
Mac users can also install windows or linux.
You really cannot disable windows advertising. each windows update brings more ads, more tracking and less options for controlling them. There are tools to disable ads, like windows AME but those disable windows updates, which youโre going to want to have for security updates.
If you know of a better way to disable advertising I am all ears. I run windows, mac and linux daily and really wish I didnโt have to use windows, or could at least use it closer to how I use linux. Iโve heard that even group policies are not respected. I canโt imagine how much time and money has been lost using windows in a corporate environment just due to ads as distractions.
This is one of the shitposts of all time.
It's a literal shit post
Exclusive too
No, you have to pay extra for that
Iโm surprised you could afford it, bro.
But is it exclusive? I won't upvote otherwise.
NFT bros
I would sooner rather buy a bag of actual deluxe dog shit than an NFT.
It can at least have some kind of utility. Like hurling it at NFT bros, for example.
At least with the dog shit you actually own something.
At least you keep your eyesight.
This is the true meme
"Apple users" is a bit harsh, the fans can definitely get this culty but it's not like the functional-but-overpriced hardware is literal shit. Someone else said NFT "investors", I'd go for fashion people who spend hundreds on a sweatshop-produced t-shirt which just has the logo of the company that's ripping them off on it (which to be fair does describe some people's relationship with Apple!)
Ho ho ho, what a funny joke item.
Eh, itโs the cult of personality that goes with the CEO, too. Jobs worshippers, Musk worshippers, whatever. Defending billionaires and corporations that donโt even know the personโs name, or care.
Steve Jobs has been dead for years and I barely hear anyone mention him these days.
True. Nfts fit this better.
Android User here. Never owned any Apple device.
But they're fucking good quality. Anyone can see that. So what's the problem?
I like Android 'cos I like dicking about with it. Some people don't want to dick about with their phones, they want to do other stuff that could be more interesting.
I carry 2 phones because I have a government job, so if any work is done on my phone it becomes subject to Open Records requests. If I have to carry 2 phones I might as well have both operating systems.
So my personal phone is Android and my work phone is an iPhone.
I don't understand how people prefer iPhones. The hardware is nice, but the OS is horrible. They came up with some neat stuff in 2008, but it feels like they haven't improved much since then. Even informing the greater flexibility of Android - it's just easier to use. Hell, just turning wifi or Bluetooth on and off is a hassle on the iPhone versus a single swipe and tap on Android.
What on earth are you talking about? Iโm not going to claim Apple invented it (because they likely stole it from another os like android) but theyโve had the single swipe down control panel on iOS to turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, airplane mode, etc for like a decade+. I have Apple devices, and trust me, thereโs plenty to shit on without making stuff up.
What he's talking about is probably that turning off WiFi via quick settings or whatever it's called doesn't actually turn off WiFi, you still have to proceed all the way to the settings app.
I owned and used a iPhone xs for a number of years. I can assure you that pressing the little WiFi icon in the control centre does the same thing as my Samsung galaxy s21 5g and various other android devices previous to the iPhone xs does and if all fails then you can always turn on airplane mode
That may be true, I used to be an iPhone Xs user before my Pixel 7, and it used to drive me crazy seeing blue WiFi icon turning white, as opposed to turning the module off completely in the settings, when the icon becomes transparent.
It is nitpicking though, for sure. I have tons of other, more significant complaints about iOS, I was just clarifying what it may have been that the other person was complaining about.
Edit: Moreover, until you deliberately tell your phone to NOT automatically turn on WiFi after an hour or two, it will decide for itself that the time has come and it can drain your battery now.
The problem is that they only disconnect. They don't actually turn off. You have to go into the settings for that.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102412
Turning off WiFi is as easy as gesturing to the control centre then clicking the WiFi button it's as easy as android devices where you swipe down from where the notch is and click on the WiFi button
Except when I swipe down and it opens the notification window or Siri shortcuts or just a blank screen with a clock on it.
It's not consistent.
I used an iPhone xs for about a year and a half before clumsily dropping my phone and it sadly coming to its demise and I've never had this happen to me. Prehaps I'm lucky. Although knowing lemmy someone probably just made this shit up
Nailed it. My thoughts exactly
I think the problems include the fact that an actual apple computer starts at 1000 and going higher than 8GB of RAM and 256G of storage costs you another 1000 because hardware isn't really modular and storage and ram are a huge tool of market segmentation.
Meanwhile a traditional desktop starts at $7000.
It's like they have lifted everything but the absolutely cheapest market segments out of reach of virtually any normal folks.
These are the things i look at when reviewers talk about apple "taking gaming serious now" and im just like what.
As someone who does animation, apple has been terrible for work. Because they take forever to render CGI, compared to my personal gaming computer. Same thing with simple video editing. Having a powerful GPU is pretty nice for work. And because apple is overpriced. I've found gaming rigs that are cheaper and do a better job, on top of being more intuitive. Seriously I can't do anything without the windows search bar. It's really nice being able to just type in the settings I want to change. And have the OS take me directly there.
Pretty much this for me too. Switched to iphone because I no longer wanted to tinker, switched my work laptop to apple silicon because the battery life and performance is stellar.
Learned to be fine with mac os, do most things in terminal anyway. Will likely switch to asahi linux when it is stable enough that I donโt have to tinker, because tinkering gets in the way of actually getting things done in my situation.
Also, being real: running LLMs on my mac is great. 128gb of unified memory basically means 120gb of vram. Itโs absurdly expensive, but nothing quite like it exists in the market right now.
Apple has that break the lense on a camera and your phone starts to brick it's self as it thinks it's been repaired by someone who's not apple
High quality until you drop it once and the entire screen shatters. High quality until your lightning cable breaks. High quality until planned obsolescence renders it unusable. Nah Apple products are pure ass lmao, literally no reason to ever buy one unless it's got some exclusive artsy software you really like (and even then there's prob something just as good for windows or Linux). As far as bang for your buck goes I can't think of a worse choice than Apple in any given field
I fucking hope it is good quality for that price.
Idk every apple product I've touched always felt pretty thin and flimsy. Don't even get me started on Mac mice. They're so cheaply made you don't get a second mouse button. The Mac books are so fragile you can break them by looking at them wrong. The only time I've ever seen a iPhone that doesn't have a crack in the screen is when they are brand new. Maybe I'm a bit of a farmer for considering rigidity the definition of high quality, but god how do one button mice feel good.
I tried Android with the S10 for a little over a year. It felt too clunky and everything I wanted to customize would have required jailbreaking, which feels too much like work for me. I went back to iPhone after that.
Every whale in a P2W game.
So what you're saying is that low level workers are socialised to feel like lesser (even though the pandemic really proved who actually matters in the scheme of the whole job system) and also feel trapped by the design of the employment system, under capitalism and angrily try to take some ground back by having just one nice thing, bought with the feeling of pride, but are actually accidentally buying into the system that oppresses them.
Yes. Pride in materialism is a horrible vice to fall for.
I wish people didn't care what technology other people choose to buy.
Bluechecks
that's one of the arguments I saw in favour of sync
Any company that lets me take control of my hardware and software is welcome to me
Yeah not Apple. They limit you to their ecosystem while Android lets you do literally whatever the fuck you want. Don't want to pay for an app in the app store? Then don't. Don't want to use the default home screen environment? Then change it. I could go on but I mean it's pretty obvious at this point.
Yep. I've been an Android girl since the beginning. The only Apple product I ever had was a free iPad my husband's job gave us because they were pushing Apple products on everyone because that's how they spy on everyone. Oh but Android spies on us too but at least we have all the benefits you mentioned above.
And technically there are ways (using some of the above mentioned stuff) to turn off those kinds of security and spyware stuff while Apple is known for buttons that say things like "stop tracking data" or similar that do literally nothing.
"We decided this app is too old for your device, so it is disabled with no way of enabling it"
~Sinisterly Apple
I want to break free off APPLE and I canโt because I love this app called CLIPS.
Itโs a video editing app that allows me to hold down the button and take a few seconds of video. Lift finger, video stops recording. Hold button down again and the next clip connects to previous. And so on. Also a ton of great filters.
Addicted to it.
Please show me the android alternative.
Not kidding. I can stop being a shit eater for this.
Don't most camera apps have a pause button you can use while filming that gives the same result? Or am I missing something?
https://alternativeto.net/software/shotcut/about/
Maybe? I dunno, I've never used either.
Not listed on Fdroid yet :(
Itโs not available for android sadly
Well I'm a dick lol my bad.
using that website without JS was definitely a surprise lol
I shall give it a try.
Samsungs have this built in natively. Press record. Press pause to pause. Press record for more. Press stop to finish.
If you want the exact UX, then I dunno.
I just checked and my Pixel 7 Pro has it too.
Vastly superior to Apple UX โ must be why they invented this CLIPS app
What? You mean iPhones can't pause while recording a video and then continue recording... or is there some other utility I'm missing about this Clips app?
Clips app is pretty fancy. Iโve only really used it for this functionality and havenโt seen anything that does what it does.
snapchat director mode?
Do you know if it allows downloading to my camera roll and uploading to anywhere but Snapchat?
i for sure have downloaded content from snapchat to my camera roll before and uploaded elsewhere.. but i don't use it much so i can't say this 100% but i believe you can
I assumed this was about Twitter blue checks, I think I prefer that interpretation.
It can be about most premium services nowadays thanks to enshittification.
No one cares more about what devices people who use iPhones use than Android Users.
I had a stroke reading that.
Guess it's hard to type coherently when you're eating shit
Aw he's Jaymes. From "Literature Cafe"
Except I've experienced the exact opposite. The iPhone users are the ones who complain about android users messing up their iMessage chats while simultaneously being too fucking stupid to realize it's Apple who is screwing them.
Wow, thatโs pretty major oppression there. You should seek out a therapist to help you deal with your trauma.
Zoomer itoddlers clearly care because of all the message color bullshit
Everything is commodified, even shit
It is BFWAV or BFSTP/BFSTM not WAV.
The only thing that is shit about iPhones besides the price is ENROLLING THEM IN FUCKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. Verizon, answer my fucking requests for auto enrollment. Fuck Apple Configurator 2.
Youโre voluntarily using DEP in ABM, itโs not forced on you by Apple. What youโre complaining about is only tangentially related to Apple and unrelated to this post. Imagine complaining about a thing that keeps you employed.
How is it voluntary? From what I read I need to use DEP and ABM to put apple products into things like an MDM unless the carrier I'm purchasing from approves some sort of auto enrollment form.
And I have plenty to do at my work place without enrolling iphones into mdms
Apple user here. Can confirm. My excuse is that Apple knows its shit and I am at the period of my life where just thinking about SUDO gives me allergy. So, as long as I do not have to deal with that shit, I am OK paying for this shit. Hell, I am paying for ChatGPT so that it does internet search for me and summarizes the results for me. My time is more valuable for me than dealing with that shit.
Not suggesting that my way is right way. Many people do like to play with that shit, customize it, fine tune. Those are not users for apple ecosystem. To each their own shit. It is nice to have a choice of shit.
I'm not a part of the apple ecosystem, but i have the same attitude towards tech these days. I dont want to be spending time debugging and tuning stuff just to get it working. Tech is tools, that shit just needs to work, fuck tinkering with everything just to get it working properly.
I feel the same, but find things getting shittier and shittier. I'm paying more and more for less and less. Then I stumble on an open source project that does all that I want and it's free.
Bitwarden vs LastPass Joplin vs Evernote A million different foss projects for all the shit Google has shut down...
Sometimes spending a little time setting stuff up, ends up saving a huge hastle migrating away from the commercial project that is going to fail unless they fuck over their users.
Yeah i do also use a bit of FOSS, and it has been increasing lately, but I still stick to projects with as little fidgeting required as possible.
Yup. I do this shit for a living and wonder how mundanes deal with some of these issues
I'm so lost here... Have you ever even tried using a brand new Android phone, or Windows computer? Your comment suggests that no, no you have not.
Like, hey, you do you. Mac and iOS are totally fine. But don't spread nonsense about Apple being easier. It's not easier in any way. In fact, I genuinely find iOS to be more complicated in recent years.
You do not need to "tune" an android phone or windows computer. Like... I honestly don't know what that even means.
I own and fix all types of devices, and apple devices are often some of the most problematic. They do NOT "just work", but you know what that's from? It's from Apple's marketing campaign rolled out years ago by Steve Jobs.
Did you even read my comment? In the very first sentence i say "i am not a part of the apple ecosystem...i said tech (both HW and SW) needs to be easy and ready to go out of the box, i didn't say android phones and Windows weren't. It was mostly a comment towards FOSS alternatives which are often not.
You replied to someone that strongly asserted that non-Apple devices are convoluted, difficult to use, and confusing. You did so by agreeing that you also hate difficult to use, confusing, and convoluted technologies.
This struck me as disingenuous. I apologize if you are, indeed, not an Apple fan in an active state of disingenuity. This said, if you are to be believed, then I don't understand what your comment was adding to the conversation here. Was your entire point truly that you simply dislike confusing technology? Did that really need to be said?
I'm so confused... Do you think android and/or windows users use sudo? That's a Linux thing... Macs run on an off-shoot of Linux.
Android and iOS are very similar to all "basic" users. Android simply allows super users (ironically this is related to sudo) to use commands if they reeeaaally want to. Although, to be fair, you need an unlocked phone for that.
Normies, are just allowed third party apps like ReVanced that let you skip YouTube ads for free. Do you not like that ability? If so, you can pay. Google loves that. Google owns Android. We've done a loop-dee-loop now, I do believe.
I admittedly know less about Android today. But I chose iOS when Android was quite bad. With iPhone I am not afraid, for example that if I lose or break it, then I need to spend any significant amount of time to setup new iPhone. Couple clicks and the new phone is in exactly in the same state as the old one. Same apps, same files, everything. Maybe Android become better today, I do not know for sure. But I heard enough of the stories from my friends about difficulties because the new Android phone runs Android of different version than the old phone, so, some programs are missing, some things are different and so on.
With Windows, while it is also becoming better, it is still plagued with some hardware driver bugs, etc. For half a year, for example, my computer would just refuse to go to sleep automatically. I tried everything I could find on internet - no luck. Then one day, it just fixed itself for no reason. The update system also for some reason fails to install some updates. And the sound output constantly switches to monitor speakers which I do not have.
My iMacs - zero issuers. They just work. My iPhones - zero issues. My iPads - zero issues. Single convenient ecosystem. Oh, add Apple Watch there as well.
That is exactly how Android phones work as well, and they have for many years. I think my last phone that needed a third party app to do things like transfer contacts was the Samsung Galaxy S4 (2013).
I recommend you check out the competition. I say this purely because I want more consumers to be critical of big brands and their latest offerings. If everyone intelligently assessed devices when they came out without a bias, I genuinely believe all of the devices we use (Apple, Google, Samsung, etc.) would be far better in just about every way, including their price.
Instead, Apple has set a long-standing precedent amongst the majority of their user-base that their devices are so good you don't need to compare them against their own competition. This has been so successful that it's led to other companies like Samsung and Google to adopting Apple "design choices" (non-replacable batteries, sealing devices so they are difficult or impossible to repair, removing the headphone jack, etc.) that end up being incredibly bad for all of us consumers.
The latest phones these days are a joke. Google, Apple, Samsung... they are pretty much ALL jokes that are nearly identical to the previous years model.
You are talking about hardware. I am talking about ecosystem.
I used Linux at home and work for 15 years - 1998 through 2013 - and finally I was Jesus fucking Christ, I donโt want to spend 5 hours configuring a video card ever again, and bought a MacBook. Itโs funny these days seeing people โI USE ARCH BROโ because I know I could but I just donโt get enjoyment out of it these days. Same with phones. I couldnโt give less of a fuck about rooting my phone or running a custom ROM.
Does ChatGPT even do this? I thought it was trained on a closed data set from 2021. While it can learn new things through conversation, it doesn't actually search the internet anymore. Right? It's literally just predictive text on your phone. It's supposed to make you feel like it's answering you but it's all smoke & mirrors.
The paid version does that. The data set is expanded to sometime in 2023 and it actually browses internet when needed using bing as search engine. It does lots of other interesting things, such as uses Dall-E to draw images when needed, or uses python and executes the code in background when needed (but you can check it). For example, if you ask a numerical question that requires solution of equations, it will do it in python. An example of such question I recently asked is โat what temperature the value in Kelvin and Fahrenheit is the same?โ
Ah shit here we go again...
You sound like a poor piece of shit /sarcasm
The โomg I haet Apple guysโ cult is much stronger than the supposed โwow I love Appleโ cult.
Maybe here specifically. But there are a lot of real people (mostly young women and teenagers but not exclusively) that would never consider coming to Lemmy or even reddit when that was a thing, who refuse to get close to anyone that doesn't have the "blue" text
Meanwhile on Reddit /r/apple regularly makes frontpage and /r/technology /r/gadgets only make frontpage if it's related to apple. And windows and Microsoft news is barely ever relevant
Makes sense as iPhones beat Android in market share in the US, and there is only one manufacturer compared to half a dozen for Android phones. I just think the โomg apple worshipping fanboyโ thing is a bit outdated. Most people donโt care that much.
Tell me how you really feel
Haha le apple bad
Coming from Windows for decades, my M1 Mac is the most stable, battery sipping machine I've ever had. Shrug...
So true!
I am a kind of laptop addict. I sell and purchase laptops every 6 months or so. I've tried everything on the Windows side, and have had the most beautiful machines in my possession, but they all had some critical flaw that made me look at my work laptop (Macbook Pro M1) and think... "I get it"
They currently have a monopoly on the best computing experience, that's why it costs so much. The developer experience is 10 times better than Windows, but it's doesn't suffer the lack of software support that Linux does. It has the best battery life BY FAR of any laptop, which is important to people like myself who find themselves working on trains and planes. And the overall build quality and performance is so good that it can be resold 5 years later for 75% of the original price.
This has to be some kind of joke, right? I have an M1 macbook through my job and it is absolutely horrible. For starters, the file system is absolutely horrible and "dumbed down" and requires you to learn special button-combinations to even find files, the UI in general is "form over function" times 100, and ooooh the horror of not having snappable windows. Also the fan is horribly loud and is often at 100% due to the terrible thermals. Sounds like a jet engine.
I've had it for over 2 years now and use it daily but it still feels like I have to battle and force it to be able to do what I want. The trackpad is nice though!
I could list fifty problems each with Windows, Mac OS and Linux, but am comfortable enough with all of them because I adapt to their weaknesses (the ones that can be adapted to anyways).
Also a programmer :) I still wanna be able to actually browse my file system with a GUI at times. I don't think "oh but you could just use the terminal" is an acceptable solution to such a monumental part of an OS
Dunno how you manage that with the fans. Everyone where I work has the same complaint. It was even worse at my old job that used the intel macbook pros that were before the m1, the fan was even louder and would always stick to 100% after a while, like it couldn't adjust itself and just ran at full speed. We couldn't really solve it either.
Anyways, the os is just way to clunky and developer-unfriendly for me. We're actively trying to get new laptops so that we can finally ditch these macbooks. Maybe if we were frontend-only they would be more suitable?
What if I told you that they cost the same amount, but windows users are subsidized via in-OS advertising.
I mean, decades ago, I would agree with this meme but these daysโฆ windows needs to be put down.
I've never seen a single ad in windows. I keep hearing they are coming... But so far it's just a few predatory practices failing to convince me to use their stupid browser.
Same,this starts to look like paranoia imo.
I think it's just Linux people trying to poison the well. I'm not even mad, haha.
But like, I'm not joining the lie, either. Some day it could happen, though, and on that day sign me up for a pitchfork.
If youโve managed to disable all ads on windows please share your setup and how youโve managed that.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about... what ads are you seeing? Where are they?
The only "ads" I see for windows come after updates in the form of "Would you like to use our "new" "EDGE" Browser?!" To which the options are "YES I WOULD FUCK YEAH" (size 40 font) and "no thanks" (size 8 font). I hate that, but it's only happened once or twice so far.
Go into settings and look for all the tracking and ad personalisaton features. now go find a similar option in OSX or Linux, you wonโt find one. This is because windows is subsidized by ads. similar to NetZero but you still have to pay for it. You can continue to disable these features but my point is I donโt even want the option to view more ads from a product I already bought.
What about the ads in the start menu? For candy crush or tiktok
I've never seen these before... can you share a screenshot? That sounds fucking awful!
Which they've only been doing for... checks watch...30 years.
Whatโs your secret? One quick way to see ads is to click on the weather in the bottom right corner. I have done all of these things but, like the commenters in that link have mentioned, none of them work.
You can just right click on the task bar and turn that feature off... I've done it in close to 1000 Windows machines at this point.
Windows updates bring it back. Iโve done it again for now. But as you have comfirmed, there are ads in windows 10.
If you open up the app store, there are ads... Pretty sure Apple has some integrated "news and interests" equivalent feature that also serves ads.
Also, my windows update has not turned the news and interests back on. Maybe you're doing something wrong?
I an running windows inside linux. i am absolutely doing something wrong, but thatโs besides the point. OS ads hit differently than in-app ads. Also when I remove or disable a feature, it should stay dead, unlike the search bar that gets resurrected at next windows update.
Is that Windows OS persistent and you apply updates to it, or are you creating a new updated image every time an update comes out? Not sure how you are managing your windows OS on Linux, but if you loading a fresh OS each time, then it would make sense that the default options would get reset each time.
Have you ever opened the start menu? There are ads there. Unless youโre using some release like LTSC or have a network-level Adblock there are ads in there. For TikTok, candy crush, Disney+, etc. itโs like the preinstalled bloat on some androids, theyโre just ads you have to annoyingly remove from your start menu.
I just did and I have no idea what you're talking about. All I see are my pinned apps and recently used files.
Iโm sure you have the options disabled that show this kind of stuff but it doesnโt mean itโs not there. Anyone who is not tech savvy (99% of the population) will have no clue how to turn this stuff off or that itโs even an option.
I guarantee any PC sold by any big box store or on Amazon will come with this stuff enabled by default.
haha WHOA, that SUCKS.
I've never had that, though... not on my Windows machines (plural). Did you buy your machine from a manufacturer like HP? It just feels like something HP would do... never buy HP anything, everyone (even if this specific event isn't their fault).
Edit: This isn't your image... it's from Reddit and it's from SIX years ago.
The setting is still on my Windows 10 PC. Itโs still relevant since theyโre still shipping it with Windows.
That sounds horrible... I've never seen these, though. I don't use anything special so far as I know. I'm on Windows 10 on one computer I run all day, and Windows 11 for the one I use all evening.
Assuming you're not making this up, could Microsoft be rolling these out only to specific individuals for a trial run, or something? I don't even have Windows Pro...
Or... actually... I built my computers from the ground up. Did you buy yours from HP, Dell, or another manufacturer? Could THEY be putting ads into their updates somehow?
The difference is Windows users can install Linux or disable advertising
Mac users can also install windows or linux.
You really cannot disable windows advertising. each windows update brings more ads, more tracking and less options for controlling them. There are tools to disable ads, like windows AME but those disable windows updates, which youโre going to want to have for security updates.
If you know of a better way to disable advertising I am all ears. I run windows, mac and linux daily and really wish I didnโt have to use windows, or could at least use it closer to how I use linux. Iโve heard that even group policies are not respected. I canโt imagine how much time and money has been lost using windows in a corporate environment just due to ads as distractions.