[USA] Presidential Debate Mega Thread

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"She wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens in prison." Again, actual quote.

I laughed a lot at some of the absurd things he has said during this, but that claim so far has been the funniest. It’s phrased like he just ended a game of Clue but he can only communicate via conservative buzzwords.

Kamala just got a laugh out of me when she was talking about Trump inviting the Taliban to Camp David and she’s talking and then chokes on her words to look him up and down to try to find a PG-rated descriptor of him and ended up just saying “and this……… former president”.

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Clearly a sentence from a perfectly sane man and not a rotten brain kept alive through shoddy dark magic inside a barely functioning zombie

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Trump... doesn't want Ukraine to win the war? He dodged the fucking question?

he also dodged if his mass deportation would involve door to door military action

Iirc, he dodged it twice. Like, how the actual fuck do you think you'll remove 11 MILLION people from the country.

When asked how he would handle Israel differently he said "It would never have happened, how Russia invaded Ukraine" sir, that's not what we're talking about

I don't think he answered a single question.

Nope, not a single one. I kept memeing a crab walking sideways. I think he thinks it's a power move but he just came off as totally unprepared.

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He dodged every question and shoehorned in "the border" for all of them.

he did have one answer to the obamacare question he had the "concepts of a plan" which is almost as stupid/funny as saying "my dog ate it"

It would have been the funniest thing in the world if Harris had latched on to that and been like "Maybe you should take another 6-10 years to golf and think about it then come back. "

Of course he doesn't, it's a miracle he's smart enough to realize he can't say he wants a Russian victory.

The Draft. Questions. It’s all the same. He dodges more than the auto manufacturer.

He doged the easiest question of the whole debate.

Not hard, since he dodged the others too.

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To be clear, you don't have a plan?

I have the concepts of a plan.

I love where he implied that because he's not president he didn't have to have a plan.

Despite the fact that he was president for four years and didn't come up with one.

I lost it when he said this

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These hosts are absolutely awful. Every time he rambles and lies, they give Harris a new topic. Occasionally they ask a question and barely point out that he didn't answer it.

The hosts need to hold him to a debate, not let him play it like a Trump rally.

Harris is doing fantastic.

They called him out on that insane 9mo abortion nonsense, and the people eating pets.

Honestly, that's the moon compared to usual.

They half heartedly disagreed and let him repeat it again, just like they won't correct him every time he lies about immigrant crime. It might be slightly better than past debates, but they are absolutely letting him run the show.

Everything he said is a lie. They would spend the whole debate rebutting him.

Nah, actually correct him and mute his mic and he would storm off the stage like a giant baby.

This is what should happen. Blatant lie means you lose time for corrections.

Oh look, Harris wanted to respond out of turn one time and the hosts shut her down after letting Trump interrupt all night.

It really deems like he has been allowed to talk for twice the time as Harris. Anyone keeping track?

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This is the first time we have seen moderators actually fact check Trump live. I'll take that in spite of the interruptions.

They were meek and let him talk over them. I guess more than zero is better than nothing, but it is a pretty low bar.

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It's really infuriating. Every time he's asked a question, and she gets a rebuttal, he just starts rebutting her rebuttal and they just let him. And half the time what he's says has nothing to do with the question that was asked. They cut Kamala off pretty much every time.

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The difference in America between commercial and public media: PBS' stream is letting two political experts answer viewer questions. NBC is interviewing three undecided voters in Pennsylvania.

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Why hasn't Vice President Harris fixed everything already, she's the Vice President already so she should fix it.

So says the man that tried to get his VP hung when he dared disagree with him.

Fuckin dummy took the bait on the rally size thing.

I came into the thread for exactly that.

Now he’s about to take the bait on the former Reupbs who are voting for Harris.

You could see part of Harris' teams strategy was to bait him with things to make him mad.

There was the statement about him losing 400 million dollars, the statement about other western leaders laughing at him, the rally size comment. Probably a few more.

If he was smarter he would have seen what they she was attempting and changed how he responded

Dana Bash from CNN actually stating what should be obvious. Paraphrasing:

We're covering this because it's racist. We're talking about memes that say people of color will eat your pets. That's racism.

it's also another time he might be mistaking an episode of King of the Hill for real life, like the low-flow toilet flushing... after all he did say "he saw people on TV" talking about it

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i hope she can draw attention to the fact he cant answer a question without rambling through 5 unrelated topics.

he cant answer a question without so instead he goes rambling through 5 unrelated topics.

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Goddammit cut him off.

The media is 100% in his pocket.

Don't underestimate the number of conservatives who work in News Production. I doubt the moderators are the ones with their hands on the mute button. Some guy in the production booth is.

There were a lot of lefties, but they didn't end up excelling in the industry like the conservatives.

Source: Worked in local news production for about 10 years way back during the Bush years.

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I keep quoting this bit from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in the hopes that it will happen to Trump. It hasn't happened yet, but if we're lucky tonight...

his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save humanity, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain.

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These "moderators" should be ashamed of themselves. They couldn't be more transparently treating one participant with kid gloves and letting him talk as much as he wants.

It's what I expected, but I am still disappointed.

B+ for fact checking without bias (meaning not attacking both to just appear unbiased).

D for favoring one over the other with extra rebuttal time. Although I think it made Trump look worse.

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She's baiting the crap out of him, and he keeps taking it before going off rambling. It's great.

Please America I hope the people that need to watch this, are doing so.

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showing love for vikto orban on national tv. bold move.

It plays well with his authoritarian base, it probably won't play well with everyone else.

But to be fair, it can be compared to Hillary Clinton being proud of her friendship with Kissinger. It didn't play well for Clinton, either.

She smashed it...in my opinion

Yeah she didn't leave much on the table.

It's strange how difficult to combat Trump's brand is. Like it seems so pathetic, yet it's simultaneously unassailable.

Partly because he says everything so forcefully and appears to be a convincing person. It’s all a sham obviously.

A very confident liar.

I would have liked her to trigger his anger. He needed to lose it on stage while she laughed at him being a big baby.

The way he paused before saying "the Jewish people" I'm convinced he had to brace himself to not sneer out "the Jews" instead.

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That did actually happen. His default is the world's biggest crying bitch, but she got extra out of him and cemented it.

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Trump closing statement: "She said she's going to do lots of wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it yet? They've had 3 1/2 years to fix the border and create jobs. Why hasn't she done it? She should go down to the beautiful White House and to the Capitol and get them all together, but you won't do it, because you want to do things that Americans don't want like no fossil fuels. Germany tried and now they're back to how they used to be. But I need to ask a simple question: why didn't she do it? We're a failing nation. They're laughing at us. I know world leaders very well. They come to see me and call me and tell me. We don't know what's going on. We have wars going on in the middle east and in Ukraine and we'll have nuclear war. I rebuilt our entire military. She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban. What these people have done to our country- the worst part is they let millions of criminals into our country. They are destroying the country. The worst president and the worst vice president in the history of our country."

Ho-lee fuck.

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According to Trump, leaders all over the world are calling and going to see Trump to laugh at the USA.

So like, which ones? Which leaders are visiting Trump to laugh at the USA? And why is he accepting them over and over? Why are world leaders wasting their time laughing at the USA with Trump? Tell us, Trump!

Probably only Orban who is batshit.

I think he has support from North Korea, Russia, Hungary, and Turkey possibly. He doesn't have the support of Germany, France, UK, Canada, Spain... Nevermind I don't have all night

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Hats off to anyone who can suffer this. Cheers for keeping me informed and laughing.

Honestly, between him sounding totally unhinged and just repeating every single lie he's made already, it's not that hard to sit through. She sounds competent. He sounds like angry old man yelling at cloud.

I checked in long enough to hear him ranting, hear a competent response from her, and figured it was better for my sanity to assume the rest would be the same and that she could handle it well enough.

Thank you for your service lol.

I’ve popped in a couple times too. I saw him cut in and ramble, no cutting off his mic. “Rigged”

Trump on his healthcare plan: "Obamacare was lousy healthcare and always was and if we come up with something, and we are, we will replace it. I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't vote to change it. If they did, we'd have a better plan than Obamacare. I had a choice as president whether or not to let it rot and I decided to tell my top people- I had very good people- some bad ones. They don't get rid of their bad ones. I had a choice to make: do I save it and make it as good as it can be or let it rot? And I saved it and it was the right thing and it will never be great and it is too expensive. We are looking into other plans. If we can come up with a better plan, we would replace Obamacare."

Moderator: "Do you have a plan?"

Trump: "I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now. If it's cheaper, I'll do it. We have options. You'll be hearing about it soon."

It's been a few years since he promised to show his plan in "two weeks."

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She did the job she went there to do. This debate generated enough material for her campaign to use.

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"I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black, that she PUT OUT. And I'll say that. And then I read that she was black" truly not a great moment..

I can't believe they let him get away with that

Trump on what to do to fight climate change: "They lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month. They're building auto plants owned by China in Mexico and they think they can sell their cars in the U.S. because of these people. We'll put tarriffs on those cars so they don't enter the country because it will kill any auto worker. What they have done to business and manufacturing is horrible. Biden doesn't go after people because China paid him millions of dollars. Him and his son. Ukraine gave him money. All these countries give him money. Why is he so loyal to Ukraine? The wife of the mayor of Moscow gave him money!"

Yes, he asked why Biden is so loyal to Ukraine.

That such an absolute dumbfuck has a chance to become President (again no less for fucks sake!) is a god damned indictment on our system.

This

More than anything, I'm embarrassed as an American that shit has gone this far, and we have to listen to Coherent Cathy for a third election.

Biden is loyal to Ukraine because the wife of the mayor of Moscow gave gim money. The wife of the mayor of the capital city of the country that invaded Ukraine gave Biden money for him to use the US government support Ukraine against Russia. Makes perfect sense 👌

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Jon Stewart's video just dropped on YouTube for where it's available geographically (where it's not just use a downloader it totally works)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtHn59wqdBc

He had one or two good bits in there, but man...I haven't watched him recently, and I think that he's a lot weaker in 2024 than he was during his first time around.

Like, I remember him doing a beautiful video montage a few times that had people "debating" their past selves, where they made inconsistent statements. I feel like that really added to the discussion. He could make a point and do so humorously.

He got the accolades he did for improving the political discussion from just a comedy show.

But most of this was pretty meh, IMHO.

That being said, I don't know who's writing for him these days. And his team didn't have a lot of lead time to cover the debate, so I can kind of understand there not being a lot of great material there. Maybe they'll have more-meaty stuff on the debate in a day or so.

These post-debate shows are live and immediately after the debates, so there is less prep time for writing and bringing up old statements.

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again biden approved nordstream2. sorry europeans apparently your governments are powerless against bidens policies for you.

I'm not watching the thing, but that was approved in (checks) 2017, which was early in Trump's first term, so if at any point the US was going to say "let's try to apply pressure, tamping down on the risks on that thing is worth the political cost", it'd have been under Trump.

Dunno if anyone has brought this up but Trump basically never looked at Harris. Even had his face turned her direction and just looked at the moderators. The only time he looked at her was when he was forced to at the start where she went to shake his hand. Dude hates her so much.

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They’ll execute the baby. lmfao

He's been trying to convince people of that one for months now. I don't even think most Republicans buy it.

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We’ve been waiting 8 years for a better plan from you. “Concepts” OMG

I remember him going on a rant and accidentally describing single payer healthcare and then never mentioned it again.

This is too stupid for me .... I turned if off and will just watch the highlights tomorrow

And this is supposed to be a contest for leadership of the most powerful, most developed, most modern nation in the world?

The worst part of all this is that everyone on the planet will be affected by what Americans will decide on .... and that is an absolutely scary idea.

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Oh thank god, closing statements. My fingers are getting tired.

I don't know how you did it man. Those paragraphs looked word for word to me. not my half assed paraphrasing mixed with my own giggling commentary.

I type ~90 wpm. That helps. But also I used to have to do this sort of quick text summarizing with what people say when I worked a survey job back in the 90s and I guess it never left me.

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What the fuck is this I rebuilt the military shit he keeps spouting about I have no idea where that's coming from. Even by Trump's normal standards this is confusing for me.

Trump when asked who should win in Ukraine: "I want the war to stop, I want to save lives. People being killed by the millions. It's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting, which are fake. We have to give them $250 billion because we don't ask Europe who are at a greater risk because Biden and YOU don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO and they paid up, which is why they don't like me as much as weak people. You look at what's happening. They pay lots less. They should be forced to equalized. I want to get the war settled. I know both Zelensky and Putin well and they respect me. They don't respect Biden. Why would you respect him? He hasn't called Putin in two years. This is a war that's dying to be settled. When I win, when I'm president-elect, I'll get them together. That war would have never happened. When I saw Putin after I left, because this country has gone to hell, when I saw him setting up soldiers, I thought he was going to negotiate but he wasn't because of Biden and millions are people are dead and it will be WWIII and where is Biden? We don't even know if he is a president. They threw him out of our campaign like a dog. Biden doesn't know he's alive."

Trump when asked again: "I think the war should finish. Negotiate a deal. People's lives are destroyed."

Harris finally tells him he's not running against Biden.

Trump says more about Ukraine: "Putin would be in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost all those soldiers, but he would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is now. He's got a thing that other people don't have, nuclear weapons. No one ever thinks about that. Maybe he'll use them, but he hasn't been that threatening. Nobody talks about it. They sent her to negotiate peace before the war started but it started because she is weak and stupid and she negotiated and the war started. Biden is the worst president in the history of our country. She is the worst vice president, but she is worse than Biden."

He said Harris met with Putin. She never met Putin.

He's absolutely blowing the whole Putin endorsed her thing lmao

He's making it too obvious, he's such a bad liar.

I love that she keeps baiting him and it keeps working. She's hitting him on his racism now.

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Trump literally said he'd prefer if Putin occupied Kyiv and if fewer Russians died - its absolutely fucking insane.

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Look at how good Democrats are at hiring competent staff

Donald Trump while talking about how many shitty staffers he had to fire

Yeah, it's like dude, you are the one that hired your administration. He is also the one that negotiated with the Taliban for a withdrawal of troops.

Wtf was that rant about Biden selling the country to Ukraine?? lol

In an unexpected and geopolitically-disruptive turn of events, the United States of America became the 25th oblast. American policy on short-range ballistic missile use against strategic targets in Russia is anticipated to significantly change in the near future.

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Nice. Harris: "World leaders laugh at you including military people I've talked to who work with you." (Again, a paraphrase.)

Trump: "Viktor Orban is a tough person and smart. They said why is the whole world blowing up? It wasn't 3 years ago. Orban said it's because China and North Korea and Russia were afraid of Trump. I ended the Nord Stream II pipeline but Biden put it back. He ended the XL pipeline but let the Russians do that. Viktor Orban said the most respected most feared person was Trump and we had no problems when he was president. Biden got millions of votes and they threw her out of office. Here's a secret: he hates her. She got zero votes."

If Trump is holding back on stopping the Russian/Ukraine war just as some sort of dangled treat, then we don't need him.

As a human being, if he has that control he should exercise it, no matter the outcome of the election.

And besides, he never answered whether he wanted Ukraine to win or not.

Trump on the peaceful transfer of power and January 6th: "I told people to be peaceful and patriotic when they were rioting and no one was killed on their side, but Ashley Babbit was shot by an evil cop and the rioters were treated badly. What about the killers coming over the border? She was the border czar, but she doesn't want to be called that because she's embarrassed about it. When are they going to be prosecuted? They're coming from all over the world, not South America and crime is down all over the world. When are they going to be prosecuted? What about the people who burned down Minneapolis? What about the people who took over a large amount of Seattle!"

Moderator: "Do you regret what happened?"

Trump: "I just showed up to make a speech and I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of D.C. and I said- it wasn't a riot by me- and I said I'd like to give you the national guard and they both rejected me and her daughter has a tape saying she was responsible for what happened. It was their fault because she was responsible for security."

Trump rebuts the sane responses by Harris on January 6th: "It was a different term and it was a term that was related to energy because they destroyed our energy business. Fox News people proved that I never praised Nazis in Charlottesville. You talk about the Capitol: Why are we allowing illegals in? Let's leave this debate right now and go down to Washington D.C. and let her sign a bill to close up the border because they have the right to do it. They don't need bills. You wake up the president because he'll be asleep to go sign a bill and if they do that, the border is closed. Those people are killing many people, not January 6th."

Yes, he doesn't know that congress passes bills.

Nice. He just can't accept any level of responsibility for anything ever. To a sane person, this is a terrible response.

oh my god. he said his statements that he lost 2020 was sarcasm on his part. I mean. I mean. oh man. this guy.

When this is over, I wanna see a stat on who spoke/was on camera more. The press plays right into his hands. Asking him to clarify only gets him more speaking time. That's why he "wins" debates, because he monopolizes media time. She is doing a great job attacking him, but he gets the last word.

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The main problem with the debate is that the audience that is listening has to actually also be SANE.

If you have nutjobs listening to all this ... they'll love Trump no matter how reasonable Harris may sound.

The trouble has been, is and will always be ... the general intelligence of the US population.

Remember, Trump needs more than the MAGA faithful to win. Only a small number of people need to be swung by this and I can't believe this will turn anyone against Harris.

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PBS has a lady on who says congresspeople are contacting her and basically saying, "why couldn't it have been Nikki Haley?!"

Because Nimarata doesn't excite the core Repub voting base (christofascist bigots) so she would never win the general election.

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Trump on Harris' racial identity: "I don't care what she is. Whatever she wants to be is okay with me. All I can say is I read where she was not black where she put out and then I read that she was black and that's okay with me."

Trump continues after Harris rebuts pointing out his racism: "This is the most divisive presidency. They are destroying our country. If we go back many years, lots of people agreed with me on the Central Park Five. They plead guilty. Then they plead they're not guilty. But that was years ago because there's nothing now. I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world. I'm going to build it again. They have no idea what the economy is. She IS Biden. The worst inflation we've ever had, a horrible economy and she can't get away with that."

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I’m experiencing so many conflicting emotions right now. Horrified, amused, enthusiastic, resigned…

There’s smoke coming out of my ears, and I smell a burning clutch from constantly shifting gears.

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god they do just clam up for him and interupt her. I mean I get it. he is way more entertaining but common.

Kamala is destroying him. He needs the handicap.

Fuck that. He needs to be put into the ground in this debate.

Trump on immigration: "People don't leave my rallies. They don't go to her rallies. Also, WWIII is going to happen because immigrants, but the towns are too embarrassed to talk about it, but black people are eating dogs. People go to my rallies because they want to Make America Great Again which is a great phrase. She is destroying this country, it will be Venezuela on steroids."

Furthermore: "I fired most of the people I hired because they did a bad job. Biden didn't fire anyone because of Afghanistan and people died and I got to know their family. They should have fired all the generals! I fire people who are bad at their jobs. Those people write books about me, but no one else can write books. They didn't fire the economists, look at the inflation. And just to finish- I got more votes than any Republican by far."

but the towns are too embarrassed to talk about it, but black people are eating dogs.

Is that a direct quote?

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lol. more votes than any republican president. oh wait more votes than any president. you know. except for the ones who have gotten majorities.

I got to say Trump has stayed much calmer than I was hoping he would. I was really hoping she could get him lathered up, and while he's absolutely crazy for a normal person for Trump he's fairly normal tonight. It's a bummer.

I was expecting lots of farting.

Like you, I'm surprised he's sort-of held it together. They gave him the right drug cocktail I guess.

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I mean I don't hear trump to often but it scares me to think that this is him calm and rationale.

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"Please, I'll give you a minute here". Wait what. I thought they were moving on.

We will improve private insurance

Am I hearing Trump promise to infringe on the rights of private businesses???

/s

Trump on Israel/Gaza and how he would negotiate to get the hostages out and end the war: "If I were president, it wouldn't have happened. Russia- I know Putin very well- wouldn't have gone into Ukraine. All of the sudden, she hates Israel! She wouldn't meet with Netanyahu because she was at a sorority party. She hates Israel. If she is president, I will predict Israel will not exist in two years. I am good at predictions. She also hates Arabs because the whole place will blow up. It would have never happened. Iran was broke under Trump, now they have $3 billion because they took down my sanctions. Now they are paying terrorists. They are spheres of terror. They had no money. ABC covered it well. Now they are a rich nation and now they are spreading that money around. Look at what's happened with the 'hooties' and Yemen. Look at the middle east. If I'm president-elect, I will get it done before I become president."

Trump rebuttal to Harris explaining why Trump is a disgrace on national security: "She's the one that caused it. That's weak on national security. 168 countries sent people into our country. Their crime rates were way down. Putin endorsed her and I believe it. It wouldn't have happened with me. World leaders think they're incompetent. I have a question: why did Biden kill the Keystone Pipeline and allow the Nord Stream Pipeline? Because he's weak."

If ANYONE thinks Trump came out on top in this debate, they are certifiable.

If ANYONE thinks Trump came out on top in this debate, they are certifiable.

Remember, him rambling and embarrasing himself for rational people is just him doing what he does at his rallies.

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Until this very moment, I honestly didn't believe he would show up.

"The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again. Understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate, I'm quoting, terminate the Constitution of the United States".. Trump is on the ropes right now..

I loved these moderators. Hard questions all around, fact-checking on outrageous claims, and they were aggressive enough with the mics.

"She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan."

Trump logic on full display tonight.

Trump on the election: "I don't acknowledge I lost in 2020. I said it sarcastically when I said I lost. There's so much proof. They should have sent it back to the legislature. I got the most votes. People should never think an election is a fraud. We need a wall and we need elections. They are trying to get illegal immigrants to vote. No judge said we had standing on the election fraud cases, that's a technicality. Can you believe that? I was the president! You do an ABC special on it. We have facts and statistics. But that's old news and we need to solve the problem right now because we have a nation in decline and it is dying."

It's clear they're trying so hard to lean on the illegal voting. He's hammering it because he told Mike Johnson to shut down the government and I don't know who chose the plan of attack for why to shut it down, but he's trying to stay on the message they chose and is absolutely flailing.

It's all a ploy to back up their upcoming shutdown. I'm glad to hear it sounds like its going down like a torpedo.

oh now he took a bullet to the head. anyone else hear marsha marsha marsha with his russia russia russia?

Moderator: "You said you would be good for women's reproductive rights. What did you mean by that?"

Trump: "Ramble... lie... ramble... lie... abortion should be illegal, ending Roe v. Wade was good... ramble... lie..."

"Stand up for our principles and not sell them for the benefit of personal flattery' this is not the apprentice Trump

You heard it folks, he’s the leader of fertilization.

Did Kamala leave? Because I’m just seeing ABC let Trump talk all he wants.

oh man I can't wait to hear him complain about abc with these questions with the attack on the capital. HOW DARE THEY!!!

Happy hearing someone talk about Trump's role in the end of the Afghan war.

He looks like he's going boom boom in his pants.

And he very well could be.

"Well there she goes again... it's a lie."

Dude, you are so not doing the Reagan thing right.

He's parroting good points he hears used against him.

"You don't have a plan"

"That's a lie"

I love all this fear mongering! 😂 America IS great. Let’s keep it that way!

Harris shouldn’t let any lies slide. Like every time Trump says some bullshit, she should point out first in her rebuttal that what he said was an outright lie. Biden didn’t even try calling him out on it.

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Trump on his immigration plan: "There are more migrants than they say because they allowed criminals and terrorists and drug dealers to come into the U.S. and are told by countries like Venezuela if they come back, they'll kill them. Crime in those countries are way down because they gave criminals to her and they did it because she'll get votes, but it isn't worth it. They've destroyed the fabric of our country. Millions of people let in and all over the world, crime is down except in America and we have a new form of crime, it's called "migrant crime" and it's at the highest level ever. The FBI lied about crime because they didn't include cities. It was a fraud like the number of jobs they said were created!"

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We won the election... let me get my buddy Mike Lindell on the horn!

The dude who just said he lost the election

She's absolutely kicking his ass and the interviewers are, too. The Cult of 45 is unreachable by reality, but it's a lot more fun watching this than the Biden debate.

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can someone fact check if abdul is the head of the taliban?

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I loved the VPs at the end there. Vance somehow dodged 2 questions about Trumps question dodging.

I don't know why, but I just felt the urge to go have a look at r/conservatives. It's exactly what you imagine. Dear oh dear

oh but hes a leader in ivf. oh wait not its probably after birth. are virginians insulted by this at all?

Other than a bit of a dodge on the tariff question (which she turned into a counter-punch), Harris is nailing this thing with a dakka dakka nail gun.

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Did he just forget that she said she doesn't know Putin and instead say she claims not to know Biden?