Local pop radio station is using its metadata to spread anti Biden propaganda

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Neat, a potential FCC violation. I don't know if this violates the advertisement disclosure requirement for political ads, but I bet someone at the FCC does.

Nice, tried the link and they couldn't even set up https. Their target base won't even be able to type that link out lol.

One random thing that really annoys me is that the site http://shakespeare.mit.edu does not properly forward http requests to https although they have an https version of the site.

Funniest thing I've ever seen is the docs for Nginx do the same, no http to https redirection. I mean, you would hope that the maintainers for the biggest web server in the world would be able to manage that but somehow... No they don't.

server serves a protocol on a port. I would rather it not include logic like that. turn off the http port of you don't want to serve http.

HSTS + HTTPS redirect is the answer. It's industry standard for a reason: it's just as safe as pure HTTPS since you can't get anything other than a redirect over HTTP, and HSTS protects your users from future attempted MITM attacks. The MDN page for HSTS explains it all very clearly.

Any other implementation is an immediate audit fail in my experience.

There's no tangible security benefit to fully disabling port 80, and if anything depending on the service it may just drive users away to shadier alternatives.

that would mean anyone going to http:// will perceive as the server being down so what you are saying will not work in practice

Why does reading Shakespeare need to be over SSL?

At least because search engines rank TLS enabled sites higher these days. And also, wrapping everything in TLS creates more noise against surveillance and makes surveillance more expensive.

So if this site has both HTTPS and HTTP versions, and it’s just Shakespeare, does it matter that much? I figure not which is why it’s not auto redirecting

SSL (or TLS nowadays) not only protects against surveillance but also guarantees the integrity of the data you send and receive. Without it, someone could spoof the response you receive. In practice this means injecting ads or malware or even worse: fake shakespeare!

It is brutal how few people know how to implement it and how apps all seem to have their own ways of doing it. I have to keep notes for the quirks of every damn app/OS I work with that uses SSL/TLS.

If you are using Firefox, enable https everywhere setting and it fixes stuff like that

It will only give an error if there's no https version that exists

Firefox has a built in setting that does the same. No need for the extension

They said to use the setting, nothing about extensions though.

Don't you just need to toss an ".htaccess" file in the root?

No, an .htaccess file is specific to Apache HTTP Server... although some other web servers have integrated the format. However, most browsers now automatically redirect when an HTTPS version exists.

Conservatives: "STOP MAKING EVERYTHING POLITICAL"

Also conservatives:

I went hiking recently. State park, at least a mile from the campground, peaceful and quiet.

Then I noticed something scrawled on one of the trail markers. Some dipshit wrote "Fuck Joe Biden" on it.

Holy shit, how miserable do you have to be to do that? To carry a marker and tag a tree just to express how you can't stop thinking about the guy, and make it other people's problem, even in the middle of nowhere when you're not even around.

That yellowing of Tesla screens is some bullshit

Teslas are built like shit. What do you expect

A Tesla bro to come in and tell you how you’re wrong.

I can hear them approaching now...

It's easy because the panel gaps make a kinda whistling noise

As a Tesla owner I felt this deeply

Its just slowly becoming more mexican

Some Latino guy somewhere is offended by your opinion

If we wait a while he will continue to yellow outside of the visible spectrum of humans.

Well, they can speak for themselves.

IDK why all you social justice warriors feel the need to defend everyone else. Smh.

(/s .... If it wasn't obvious)

But isn't that what lawyers are for? Because every group in society really is just a mythical gang of swole guys, but only in a good way, until you steal their cookies, but if you want the real story tune into vice news today

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The link redirects to an Americans for prosperity form, hosted on an domain hosted by the i-360 political data platform. And also...

"Americans for Prosperity (AFP), founded in 2004, is a libertarian conservative political advocacy group in the United States affiliated with brothers Charles Koch and the late David Koch.[6] As the Koch family's primary political advocacy group, it is one of the most influential American conservative organizations.[7][8]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Prosperity#:~:text=Americans%20for%20Prosperity%20(,%5B7%5D%5B8%5D

The Koch brothers are an example of the problem posed to democracy of having huge amounts of money in a few hands

Absolute dirtbags. Them calling themselves libertarian is a fucking joke.

They are the writers of some of the earliest libertarian "doctrine", dude get a fucking clue. They are libertarianism. These assholes are so libertarian they put "privatize water ways" in their dogma.

What planet do you live on????

Lmfao.

The word libertarian is older than the conservative appropriation of it. It used to be an explicitly leftist label, referring to what we would consider today to be anarchists or communalists.

Maybe they had some historical validity, but the current form is just standard conservative bullshit.

They were the first for AMERICAN libertarianism. Which isn't what the rest of the world calls it.

I've been all around the country, and ofc there are exceptions but radio in general is ridiculously conservative. If I have to hear another Christmas song I might just lose it...

That's because a great deal of it is owned by Sinclair, and they love putting right-wing messages on their radio and TV stations in one form or another.

What kinds of right-wing messages do they put on their air?

Anti-immigration, vaccine skepticism, defunding critical social services, anti-intellectual, anti-education, anti- not being gigantic assholes to other people just because we're not all the same.

This is by no means an exhaustive list.

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You are saying Christmas music is "ridiculously conservative"? wtf, it is the holiday season. You have plenty of other stations that don't play it to listen to.

Not where I live, 9/10 are playing that 24/7 and the best I can really hope for otherwise is a Pink Floyd single. Also I'm a pagan who doesn't believe in a heavily revised book of total hodgepodge so I hate having it shoved in my face. Which is inevitable working in a coffeeshop...

Have you tried not being a grumpy godless commie? Imagine saying that Christmas is conservative.

You don't have to be a godless commie to dislike having a religious event be commercialised and shoved down your throat months before the event.

Christmas is the fricking most magical glorious perfect impeccable dazzling time of year, motherlover! How DARE you pitiful grinches not love every single jolly holly jingly bit of it, motherlover! What is fricking wrong with you freaks?! Have you no festive spirit, noPopulated forests of pine trees covered in twinkling rainbow lights that blanket me in cozy, tinsel-y warmth, b-word? No army of nutcracker soldiers marching up the fricking stairs bearing plates of fudgy butter cookies and mugs overflowing with marshmallowy hot cocoa, b-word? No glistening angels fluttering through the fricking alleyways at midnight, telling stories of poor skeletal children whose bones are fricking decomposing in the fricking cemetery because they don't have proper Christmas dinners to nourish them, b-word? YOU SHOULD, motherlover! Let their blood and marrow splatter all over youuntil you finally understand the fricking true meaning of Christmas, you naughty scrooges, motherlover! Now if you'll excuse me, I have gingerbread houses to build while I listen to Madonna's Christmas album on repeat for all eternity.

Christmas is so conservative, it's capitalist, deceitful and alienating. Literally a textbook example of why conservatism is bad - we should be giving gifts and showing appreciation to each other all year! Also, yeah sorry no interest in a lobotomy, thanks

tried not being a grumpy godless commie?

You know you're in Lemmy, right?

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Your screen looks really dirty.

There was probably a dog within a 2 mile radius.

Usually about 2 feet radius. I am rarely in the car without him.

It’s not dirt it’s the shit screens Tesla uses. They use a glue that yellows over time. Fucking war crime if you ask me.

EDIT: actually on second glance it’s dirty as shit too. The yellow on the left is the glue I mentioned.

It wasn't from some stupid commercial?

Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. I've seen websites on my car display that match up with the commercial that's playing. If that website paid for ad time, then there's nothing shady going on here. Well, no more shady than any other advertising.

They have different metadata during regular commercials. And doing metadata during songs. This only shows up when the “DJ” is speaking.

I had a pokemon go player who's nickname was "fikjoebiden" lol

I've found the censorship on things like youtube and such to be wildly inconsistent. I've seen obvious nazi or racist profile pics on youtube that have been up for years. Post a video though of a band playing a copywritten piece and it is down in a few weeks.

Before Musk, Twitter claimed that they couldn't effectively censor Nazi stuff because it was too similar to what Republicans post, so... yeah.

What's wrong with radio companies exercising their first amendment rights?

What's wrong with us dunking on dumb takes like this one?

Nothing, I'm not the one seething about a stupid radio ad.

Ah, yes, here we all are, seething.

HONEY FETCH MY SEETHING COAT, ITS A BAD ONE.

Oh no, someone criticized our glorious leader!

Interesting post history.

You really like PP.

Like I GAF what SatansMaggotyCumFart has to say.

Yet you replied.

Curious.

Only to say that I find it hilarious that SatansMaggotyCumFart would get upset when our glorious leader is criticized. Really speaks for itself, doesn't it.

Did I say I was upset?

I'm pretty sure I just commented on your PP obsession.

Why would you try to troll me unless you were upset?

I'm wondering why you feel the need to put words in my mouth but I can see this conversation is going nowhere fast.

Good. It appears we've reached an understanding, then.

Okay, have a nice day FrenLivesMatter

Completely unrelated topic but do you remember the now banned subreddit Frensworld with a bunch of white supremacists baby-talking to each other?

That was a trip.

"They're turning the frogs racist!"

Sounds like something leftist Alex Jones (John Oliver?) would say.

I'm confused.

Are you calling John Oliver a leftist Alex Jones or are you saying Alex Jones is leftist and just throwing John Oliver into the mix there because he's a good looking man?

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Bidenomics has been a disaster. Things are not as rosy as they claim.

When one of you are willing to offer up an alternative solution that even remotely resembles an inclination that you’re paying attention to the problem at hand- we’ll start taking you seriously.

Until then, you’ll remain the joke that you are to everyone with a functioning brain.

You mean like tax cuts for the rich to fix every problem? Because that's all they have.

That accelerated with Regan and has been the status quo for every president since. Biden proposed a wealth tax and it got stone walled by a Republican congress. You could argue it's all for show but laying it at his feet is a little "mask off" with your intent.

Still likely a troll account just don't want you convincing the less critically inclined of insanity.

Edit: replied to the wrong person, this was meant to be a reply to the parent comment saying that "bidenomics" was the problem oops.

You mean every Republican president. Democrats have not chased trickle down economics.

Sorry I should have been specific. I wasn't speaking about trickle down economics, I was speaking about the economic policies in general that tax the poor while leaving the rich mostly unaffected and while purposely building in loopholes.

This may not have been strengthened as much during times when Dems were in power but in the past it certainly hasn't been weakened, My argument is that Joe Biden has actually made moves to try.

Soviet flag PFP.. That’s all you need to know

Theres no arguing with these people - that would be expecting the most basic level of critical thinking

Supporting genocide Joe and Im the one lacking critical thinking?

Isn't that the new dog-whistle term being used to disenfranchise younger voters and muddy the waters for democratic or liberal leaning politicians?

No offense, but that really isn't a great way to show you're a critical thinker.

dog whistle: words that mean other words

For example,

Actual utterance: “Hi mom what’s for dinner?”

Dog whistle secret meaning: “Hi mom I’m an antisemite!”

Now that you’ve been educated in how dog whistles work, you too can start to see the secret meaning behind everyday words!

The young know exactly who and what the duopoly is, so there is no muddying the water. They rightfully see that there is nearly zero difference between the two in policy or their commitments to Wall Street.

NeArLy ZeRo

"15% corporate minimum tax

A critical provision applies to most U.S. corporations that earn more than $1 billion in profits. While under current law, these firms are subject to a 21% corporate tax rate, many pay less or no federal tax. Under this change, a new minimum 15% tax would apply based on annual income posted in a corporation’s financial statement, rather than the corporation’s taxable income, effective on January 1, 2023. "

Definitely the same as Trump's tax cuts. Lol. Fucking ignorant trash.

Talk is cheap, and that's all it will be. When asked, he said rolling back Trump's tax cuts for the rich were off the table.

Talk is cheap, and that's all it will be.

Posting isn't praxis. What solutions are you offering?

We're almost out of the 4th quarter. Want to go through some corporate tax records to back up your talk?

This type of comment that says their side is right… are just hilarious to me. Corporations bought your government through bill riders packed in 1,000 page bills.

Neither side wants to fix this mess, because their millions in campaign funding relies on keeping corporations and fat cats happy.

If you are in the bottom 95%, you aren’t being served by your government anymore.

This Conservative vs Liberal fighting is exactly what they want. Serves as a nice distraction.

bOtH siDeZ tHo, riTe?

This type of comment that says both sides are equally bad are just hilarious to me. People riding the fence is what got us here.

Shit of get off the pot. We’re not in a pace where we can afford to NOT choose sides anymore.

bOtH siDeZ tHo, riTe?

Both sides suck and always have sucked.

Because being shot in the face is exactly the same as stubbing a toe. They both hurt- and because they both hurt- they HAVE to hurt the exact same!

Because being shot in the face is exactly the same as stubbing a toe. They both hurt- and because they both hurt- they HAVE to hurt the exact same!

Ah yes, because both are TOTALLY not owned by corporate interests, and both will shoot you in the head when they have the opportunity. Neither party cares about you and only wingcucks think that either party will deliver upon the promises they want and not enrich their corporate donors.

ROFL… okay. You’re one of those people.

We can be done here. I don’t exercise in futile discussions with people whose primary focus is overly opinionated rhetoric.

This type of comment that says both sides are equally bad are just hilarious to me. People riding the fence is what got us here.

I have heard a thousand variations of this same comment. This is not a very insightful thing for you to say. Unless you can add some specifics, I’m tempted to interpret this as you just regurgitating what you see on the internet.

It’s so weird you reference yourself here, when this is obviously not your own thought.

Liberals thinking they were voting for 'lesser evil' got us here. This is 100% on the shoulders of shitlibs that cant tell the difference between red fascism and blue fascism.

And what solution are you offering here? Not vote? Vote 3rd party? Vote for Trump?

I've already voted for progressives in my local elections.

Their only "solution" is whining and ignorance.

Voters have zero impact on policy or legislation. Keeping the status quo is killing us

You still didn't answer my question. What solution do you have? "Biden sux" is true, but just yelling it over and over is not gonna further any leftist ideology...

They have no solution. Thats been the point of this the entire time. They shit on the discussion and walk away feeling smugly satisfied that their pseudo woke rhetoric made a difference to a bunch of people too busy scratching their heads and wondering what that dumbass was talking about.

Not supporting him or a capitalist owned party is my solution. That's the oppressed supporting their oppressors

Cool, give me something more concrete. What should I support then?

There will be no answer that makes any sense at all. You know that, right?

Yeah, but I like making that PAINFULLY obvious to both them and anyone else reading it. Just saying "Biden is a shitlib", while true, doesn't help anything and IMO hurts the chances of anyone left of herr Trump getting elected.

God damn your takes are stupid. "zero impact". To prove a universal quantification false only a single counterexample is required. That's it. Nothing more is required and then poof you are an idiot. You sure you want to make that bet? You absolutely sure that voters have zero impact on policy or legislation? Cause, like, votes determine the passage of policy where I live.

Counterexample:: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Colorado

Oh look. Votes determined the legality of cannabis. Was illegal before then votes then not. That's a policy change BTW in case you are even more confused than the average stoner.

Done! I've proved you wrong! Congrats! No further effort by anybody is required to prove you are stupid. Just one example was required. Nothing more.

You are a fragile and angry person

My god you’re fucking hilarious!

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And that justifies political ads in the metadata of a pop station because ....

Because it was paid for. Plain and simple.

If i want politics I’ll go to a news channel. If I want music I expect the channel to not be politically involved.

If you want to avoid reading political ads while listening to the radio, just don’t read the radio.

So anything is allowed if the ad is paid for? The KKK can pay for an ad that says "Kill the N---s" and that's ok?

Being anti-Biden is not equivalent to being the KKK

I never said it is. That is not what I responded to.

You implied, that it was implied, by the comment you responded to. The KKK is a terrorist organization. There’s no implication that a terrorist organization gets to advertise just because they paid, in the comment you responded to.

This anti-Biden website, being anti-Biden, is not in the same category as the KKK.

So the answer to your question is no. The KKK doesn’t get to buy ad space on that radio station.

Honey, remember that in current year + 6 that if you are to the right of Stalin, you are an evil fascist.

No, things aren't rosy. What happened under trump was a corporate apologist shitshow though.

Things are honestly pretty fuckin rosy in the greater context of what could have happened

Sure the worse case scenario would have been a fucking disaster, but the truth is America is still on the path to ruin. Things are still getting worse, just at a slower rate.

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What happened under trump was a corporate apologist shitshow though.

Luckily for Americans, Biden is the scourge of corporate America...

What do you want me to say? The choice was between total shit and kinda shit. That's what's wrong with the two party entrenchment

No, it's not parties that are entrenched, it's laziness and complacency. America could have a viable third party, the status quo could be shaken. But it would require a bit more drastic measures than just canvassing and making YouTube videos. It would require an election boycott campaign to shake the legitimacy of your democracy (and with two parties that serve the same corporate master, just how legitimate is it in the first place?), it would entail a period of instability with perhaps something even worse than Trump emerging for a while...

But by and large, Americans are comfortable. Despite the economic downturns, despite the drug zombies in the streets, most Americans are not ready for the hardcore sacrifices that are necessary to drastically change a political system.

So you trudge along, always choosing between two piles of shit, carefully weighing which pile is a bit smaller and stinks just a bit less. And you say, this is democracy in action!

So, exactly what we have right now?

Lol. Imagine watching Trump during covid and then thinking "exactly what we have right now". What a trash take.

Oh. I guess your username is accurate! Well!

Then you need to pay closer attention

Nah dumbass you need to sit the fuck down and shut the hell up. Trump sucks, his fans are losers who support a fucking loser AKA worst president in American history. You had 4 stupid ass years to show what he could do. All he fucking did was take more golf days than any other us president in history, and get on his knees for Putin. Oh, and he was legally impeached twice, and is in court because the whole universe knows hes a stupid fucking loser who got caught breaking the law and lying multiple times. Not to mention he's sexist, cringe and gross everytime he speaks. Your whole account is ridiculous, all you do is spew nonsense and act like it's a factual statement. GFY nazi, get the hell off lemmy and go suck trumps shrimp clit on truth social with the rest of your proud boys.

So fragile and binary to assume any critique of your senile pedo makes me a republican. Their senile pedo rapist is no better than yours

Given how easy it's been to prove you wrong with actual events. Pretty clear you're in an echo chamber of your own.

I'm not the one in an echo chamber darling. Dems are as delusional and as cultish in the protection of their cult leader as Republicans. MAGA is no different than BlueMAGA

Pffffffffft! You make me laugh. Why don'tcha head back on over to Hexbear? I'm sure they'll love you and your delusions.

Much less of one than what happened under Trump. When disaster struck, Trump's first thought was to bail out big companies over actually helping the people. Infact frequently he put the people dead last. At least Biden has done and tried to do a few things for the common person.

Just wait until you learn who cranked the interest rates down to nothing and handed a bunch of free money to the rich at a time when supply chains were almost completely shut down during the pandemic...

I feel like that doesn't get discussed enough. The supplements provided under trump hindered way more than they helped. Might I remind you that those were promised and then delayed because Trump wanted his fucking name printed on the checks. Outside of that, the paycheck protection program was a disaster! So many companies took advantage of that while shitting all over the employees that that was supposed to help. All the while, mom and pop shops and other local places got shafted because the mega corporations tapped the fund. Then it all got forgiven?? You've got what is essentially neutered unemployment benefits performed solely to act as a clout grab, and you've got hyper inflation into the absolute wrong end of the scale of where it should go. More people focus on the former instead of the latter like the latter never happened.

Everyone knows it was all bullshit but try to remember nearly every day of all four years of Trump's presidency, and months prior campaigning, were filled to the brim with bullshit. Many people, myself included, just gave up on politics for a while after he lost to Biden just to try and stay mildly sane.

Donald Trump shut down the entire American economy by force, while printing trillions of new dollars into existence. Trump ruined the American economy, and likely started WW3 in the process.

Wait until you hear that Biden kept the guy that cranked down those interest rates, the same one that now has interest rates for homes in the upper 8%. Then kept those tax cuts for the rich, while pretending the inflation was due to supply chain issues and not capitalist greed.

What is Bidenomics?

It's the Republican buzzword for "Cleaning up the mess Trump left"

Also: Creating a Soft Landing Instead of a Recession

This isnt a soft landing, we are in the middle of a silent depression. And we have not hit bottom yet

My cat has a better grasp on economics than you do. Oh and my cats are rescued from Russia.

Healthy economies do not have skyrocketing credit card debt, skyrocketing car repos, less savings, increasing evictions, and people losing their homes because of unaffordable housing. If the exact same conditions were happening under a GOP, WH liberals would be in an uproar, but since BlueMAGA is running the show they went to brunch while the world burns.

Yeah, it's a really big mess that needs to be fixed. Thanks Reagan.

Cant fix it by electing the same people that are extensions of Reagan. Biden is Reagan's 12th term

I didn't vote for Biden in the Primary, but he was definitely the best option in the general.

I'll take a little progress over a lot of fascism any day.

You were not provided an option, he was selected by the party and forced on everyone

I agree. I felt the same about Hillary Clinton.

But I'm not going to put a wannabe tyrant in office just because the options aren't as good as I'd hope.

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That's all been happening for decades, dude. Literally wtf are you talking about?

What policies have Republicans presented to address those issues besides cutting taxes for the rich and cutting social programs that support working families?

Ignore what's happening now to strawman the other side.

What strawman?

You're saying the things that are happening now, which are not new (or explain how they are) are the result of legislation/policies implemented by Democrats, right? I'm saying that is false and ridiculous.

I asked a simple question: what policies have Republicans proposed that would fix the issues you're concerned about? Don't worry, I'll wait.

Republicans are your strawman. No one expects them to do anything because they are garbage too. The Biden administration is trying to gaslight us into prosperity. They claim we are doing well, when the hard data shows the opposite. The data showed months ago that higher prices are a result of corporate greed, the WH is still trying to claim its supply chains. They keep talking about low unemployment as if that implies wages are up. Cutting 220k full time jobs and creating 150k part time jobs is not progress.

You're just talking past me/to "hear" yourself go on. That's not how you have a productive discussion.

I agree with many of your points but I think you have a warped perspective of what I'm saying. Either way, this conversation feels unproductive.

Good luck! Keep fighting the good fight

Which of those things weren't happening under Trump?

They were happening under Trump, but have accelerated in the last year.

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That's the official term presented by the WH. The rest is correct.

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Marketing from the Biden team that Democrats use to support their cause and Republicans ironically use to support their cause.

Economy in freefall, constantly rising inflation, interest rates through the roof and home prices not falling at all

Free fall, meaning? Inflation is going down. Interest rates are a mechanism to control inflation, and historically are not all that high. Housing is a problem, but nobody is going to do much about it because something something free market. Not everything is great, but not dismal either. I don’t really see how this is Biden’s fault, but I am sure people will still blame.

According to that website it’s high taxes and lots of corporate loopholes

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