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And the ones who install Arch on a MacBook need extra special therapy.

I'm in this picture and I don't like it

If you look at the usernames that picture is actually OC.

I didn't even look at the picture lol

I just remembered it because it has twenty-nine minutes uptime.

What kind of scrub runs Arch with a kernel that’s been compiled twenty-nine minutes ago?

That shit needs to be updated!

☺️i love my arch on my macbookpro from 2009 😂

Was difficult to understand that I have to boot via legacy bios in order for the nvidia grafic to work.. But after installing grub2 via CDrom I had i done ✅ now I can boot any iso from using grub2 and don’t have to relay on CD rom anymore 🥳 Next will be a 2013 MacBookPro (with nvidia as well), as soon as my motor buys her m3 MacBookPro

This reads like a copypasta

just cause they use emojis?

I mean, tone does have to do with how you use a language 🗣️ and symbols to communicate, and the emojis in the middle ➡️❎⬅️ of sentences and how many there are in relation to the amount of sentences 💬 do make it kind of read like a copypasta ©️🍝

What if i have Arch on my Desktop and Linux Mint on my MacBook?

Endeavour on my desktop, and Fedora Silverblue on my MacBook - good combination!

Men?

It's the meme format:

"Men will literally (something) but not go to therapy"

People who use it don't necessarily endorse the original view, but are making fun of it.

I think their joke was that Thinkpad Arch users (at least online) have a strong correlation with trans women

Then they put on the socks and become girls

The amount of time and effort needed to go through an Arch installation and succeeding probably is more therapeutic than paying $100 for a session of therapy. It's enough to make them finally come out after all 🤷

Legit I brought my first thigh highs and my T430s (now quite modded) within like 2 weeks of each other.

I tried buying a used thinkpad and putting Linux on it, but then it stopped charging correctly after 2 weeks. So I went back on adhd meds and got a new job and turned my life around.

By turn your life around you mean bought a new Think pad and put Arch on it, right?

Honestly I thought I was doing good for my technical knowledge by playing with Linux and it has helped but there comes a point where I hit a plateau with that and now I just end up endlessly tweaking and just wasting time on it

Therapy is expensive, I'd have to make appointments, leave my home during my free time, talk about myself to someone, and probably won't help because my problems are external. No thanks.

Buying a new laptop and installing an OS is a relatively simple and inexpensive process that is actually rewarding.

Therapy actually often helps with external problems too. If you tried another therapist every time you installed a distro, you might have found one that can solve your problems.

Okay so multiply all the other problems I listed by how many therapists I have to try and no they can't solve my problems unless they're gonna buy me a house or pay off my debts or something so I can actually get ahead financially.

No, a therapist will not give you money. What they could do is identify why you don’t have the money you need, then help you plan and execute the steps to accomplish your goal. If your goal is more money, I’d guess they would ask you if you are looking for a higher-paying job, then discuss what steps you can take to improve that process, with a focus on mental hurdles you may not even realize you’re putting in your way.

Unless those steps are overthrowing the rich then I think the person you are talking to is correct. This is a money problem not a psychological problem and most money problems are because of capitalism. Get a higher paying job? FFS what actually makes one job more valuable than another? It sure isn't how essential it is as plenty of high pay jobs are things like finance bros.

No, the steps would probably be more along the lines of refreshing your resume, maybe setting up an appointment to have it professionally reviewed, getting a habit of applying for jobs going, stuff that materially contributes to having more money. A therapist might tell you that overthrowing the rich is a little too vague a plan to actually act on.

I specifically said higher-paying instead of a “better” job because it’s not necessarily going to be a more fun or world-improving position. But if money is what you need and the job you apply for has a higher pay rate than the one you have now it will likely lead to you having more money, regardless of the greater economic climate.

No, the steps would probably be more along the lines of refreshing your resume, maybe setting up an appointment to have it professionally reviewed, getting a habit of applying for jobs going, stuff that materially contributes to having more money. A therapist might tell you that overthrowing the rich is a little too vague a plan to actually act on.

So the solution the therapist has is to hire a career counselor? That's not them solving anything, that's them passing the buck to someone else that will cost me even more money and time. Beside the fact that I already know how to ladder climb and am currently in a position that pays well above what most of my peers are making and is above the credentials I have on paper so I have to rely on networking for any new opportunities (which again i'm doing better than most of my network so they don't have a lot to offer at this point). There really isn't anywhere for me to go up from here without moving to a place that is even more expensive to live.

The real issue is that inflation is out of control and housing is too expensive. My best bet of ever owning a home is waiting for my parents to die and inherit theirs and that thing is shitty new construction that was slapped together as quickly and cheaply as possible and will probably be falling apart by then.

Yes, in the hypothetical scenario where you are applying for positions but not hearing back and it has become frustrating, my theoretical therapist might suggest you get in touch with someone specialized in helping with that, and then if you continue to not do so while stressing over the state of your resume their job would be to help you take that step.

Evidently that’s not your problem, which I could not be aware of, being a stranger on the internet before your explanation of your situation. Sorry my example did not perfectly address your situation.

I don’t know how a therapist would react to your circumstances of being able to make more money but still not making enough because that is rather foreign to me, but I can tell you one thing. If you are holding down a job above your credentials, you are no longer holding down a job above your credentials, you are now holding down a job at your current level of credentials and I would recommend updating your papers to reflect that.

By credentials I mean a degree and experience with particular tasks/applications. I can't just change that on my resume if I don't have it.

Yeah this guy is consistently defecting and giving bad advice. I don't think they have any experience with the current job market, economy, or just the state of capitalism in general. Psychologists aren't even the right people to go to here, you need a career specialist for that. If they said to get more qualifications instead that would make more sense, but clearly they just want to add therapy to everything as if that's gonna fix it.

If I want to gain more qualifications but never actually spend time working on them, if I want a better resume but never even look up a phone number to call, do you think a therapist could help me get moving on those things I want to do?

That's a hypothetical scenario and not at all the same one you were describing earlier or the scenario the other commentor is in. Stop trying so hard to be right. Even this scenario could be explained by exhaustion from working your current job.

It costs you nothing to admit that you made a mistake and that sometimes psychologists aren't the right answer. You only need a psychologist for career based problems in very specific scenarios for example when mental health issues or mental disabilities impact your work. Outside of that is what a career specialist is for, they should be a first port of call for career based problems as that's exactly what they specialize in.

What I was trying to say is that if you already have a job above your qualifications, which my understanding is you do, you can use your experience in that job as a qualification for future jobs. Maybe I did a poor job of saying that.

That's not how that works unfortunately. Job requirements change, different businesses have different requirements, and furthermore you probably need to look at a more advanced job for more money which requires more qualifications. For example in the tech industry jobs that you could get with experience or working up through a company now requires a degree because there are more people working in tech with degrees now. It's supply and demand to put it simply.

Stop trying to fit therapy to every problem. That's not what it's for. The best advice would be to upskill and gain qualifications - which not everyone can afford. Stop trying to ignore physical reality and claim the economy and everything is fine when it clearly isn't. Admit there are problems and actually do something about it! Complain to politicians, unionize, strike.

Telling people to go to therapy for economic and financial problems is maybe the dumbest thing I have heard unless you have a problem with impulsive purchases or the like.

I’m just gonna promote the benefits of therapy. I learned to love myself. I think this meme is about hating yourself, so I think it fits. Only semi-serious, no hate intended.

I think it is more about rage control than about loving or hating oneself. Like stopping yourself from chucking the laptop halfway across the room when it doesn't boot because you misspelled a variable in a config file.

Eh... I get the joke, but using Arch is about loving computing. All the other OSes have removed the human element of computing. Arch still lets you control and administer your computer, which is good fun for weirdos like me.

Wait. Am I not allowed to mess with stuff, use the terminal, compile, and all those things in Mint!?

Call the manager. I want my money back!

Of course you can. But in Arch you must do a lot of things that are optional in other distros, and you install your packages explicitly, only including what you want.

Must isn't better that can - to have choice taken away from your, there's always Windows or, even better, MacOS.

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Yeah because all we really need is something to focus our rage at.

Focus the rage at something that is fixable. Good idea actually.

i ironically think than i can better handle stress than my other friends because of grub breaking my sister's laptop(dual boot) at the worses moments possible, i learned to force me to stay calm to search and read correctly how fix grub before she realized

You should try gentoo as a therapy replacement next. It's basically the adult version of maintaining a long running Animal Crossing save.

Every morning I wake up, grab a coffee and update my system @world. Almost every day it goes without a hitch and I watch the system evaluate and resolve any incongruities that might emerge from updates by itself. Other times I might need to make a intervention in the dependencies to guide it to a resolution; but it's a small nudge in the right direction, like tweaking a miniature ship inside a bottle.

This is partially tongue in cheek but I unironically get a lot of joy out of administrating my PC: Having it completely customized and working exactly like I need it to.

Gentoo: the Tamagotchi Penguin

Well, you do have to feed, er, update it at least every six months if you don't want to be left with an unholy mess to clean up.

I'd advise every week, within six months a lot has changed and you may end up with messed-up inconsistencies.

Six months is the max that's supposed to be supported. (Longest no-update period I've ever sorted out was twelve months. Possible, but time-consuming.)

Can confirm

(throw all those neofetches at me)

Does this still count?

No, because you did not enable trim and firewalld by yourself. Also how dare you like Dracut? /s

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Looks at M2 macbook running NixOS

Ok maybe I do need help.

Someone was saying in a linux hate post yesterday that linux is not viable for beginners because it is not easy to install arch linux on a vm on their old macbook. Lmao

My kid (not even a teenager) uses Linux daily. And not in a coy "he's using a chromebook" way. He's using full-blown NixOS on a laptop I set up for him. Could he have set it up? No, but he's a child. Has day to day use presented him with any difficulties whatsoever? Nope. He figured out gnome purely by instinct in a day. He goes between macos and windows and linux effortlessly, because he's a reasonably intelligent human being.

But, yes, half the time the "linux is hard" crowd seem to be basing their evaluation on things you would rarely do on a mac or windows machine. These days, install Mint, Fedora, or, hell, even Nixos or Endeavor, choose the defaults, and you will very likely have a perfectly usable, intuitive system.

A real linux installation or darwin-nix? If the former, what steps did you follow? 👀

The real thing. https://github.com/tpwrules/nixos-apple-silicon/

I wouldn't say it's something anyone can do (no graphical installer and updating is a bit manual) and it's all dependent on the Asahi folks, bless them, but it took me about 20 minutes, other than whipping up a machine-specific configuration.nix and home.nix (about 20 more minutes on either side of the installation). All of the instructions were clear, though I will warn that some of them are not well presented in that there are instructions that should be bullet points that are stuffed into paragraphs. Nothing remotely exotic though--that's all in the Asahi stuff that is wonderfully hidden from the view.

My right index finger still has an indent from using the clit-mouse to play Starcraft on a Thinkpad 25 years ago.

the aliens watching me for entertainment: oh no, he has installed gentoo and qubes, he is too far gone

I mean, if it helps why not! I honestly really do have a lot of fun tinkering with Linux, it's one of the big draws of the OS to me.

Because *mumble mumble* no Windows into your soul

I don't like Windows. They leak a lot of air, they are expensive to replace, and you usually just end up covering them anyway.

I also don't like the OS much either. lol

It's hard to find a therapist who meshes well with you and can help you make progress, but a busted Lenovo takes to Arch better than Saint Louis.

Fuck that's relatable I bought one like 4 days ago and it just arrived :'D

Congrats! What model ?

T470p i5-7300hq

It was sold as a t470 i5-7300u buut the PC itself had 470p written on it and the chip I saw when swapping the thermal paste matches the i5-7300hq

woman would take care for a literal horse instead of going to therapy. i don't see anything wrong there either.

just a horse is way more expensive, cannot be put aside for a week on vacations (could a notebook be put aside?) and one cannot make backups of horses or carry them with you when visiting friends. Horses are way more cute, though.

I feel like I need to get back into Gentoo just to add a lil spice to the horde of Arch users around here :P

Still gonna use Arch on my laptop, bytheway 😅

I am unsure, I feel like Google is watching me and selling my data to OP because I was only yesterday ogling a Thinkpad Yoga X1 precisely for this purpose.

Get a refurb T14 for (relatively) nothing before going hardcore.

until their egg cracks and they put on the thigh highs :P

I don't think you need to be trans to have a desire for the wonderful vascular benefits of stockings.

oh for sure, but judging by unixsocks they seem to be correlated. At this point I'm considering "interested in Linux" to be One Of The Signs™️ lol

I don't think egg jokes are healthy for the trans community homie

prime directive's a psyop. Egg as a concept helped me and a lot of my friends find out who we are

Frankly idgaf about the prime directive (edit: this is perhaps an exaggeration, I meant I wasn't necessarily referring to the prime directive) , but as an enby person, I think going around saying "doing this makes you an egg" is pretty antithetical to people not wanting to be judged for not complying with the gender roles that correspond with their assigned gender.

I'm an enby too, and the point remains! I think what gets lost in translation here is that "hey, this is kinda eggy" =/= "hey, you're an egg". At this point, I'm really starting to see this is as a willful misinterpretation by reading the former AS the latter (not saying you're doing this, but a lot of the self-hating folks who see transness as some sort of curse seem to be overrepresented in the population who react negatively to seeing anything as "eggy")

I'm going to very sincerely disagree. You can see it as misinterpretation if you like, but I believe there's functionally no difference between the two statements you've provided and as long as the right is trying to come up with any excuse to outlaw our existence, its optically beneficial to come up with ways of educating people who may be "eggs" about being trans/enby that are informative, but are less likely to fuel a deranged groomer witchhunt. I'm glad it helped you and your friends, but given the political climate, I believe we should avoid terms that endanger us more than needed.

Continue using it, I certainly won't stop you. But I'm not going to start.

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Yes, because not many other things can be considered both a symptom and a cure.

i own four xx20 series thinkpads. One of which has debian with i3wm, the other three dont have anything installed atm. Sue me ik.

xx20 series is the best tbh. The only thing maybe arguably better is x80 series, due to the more modern processors and actual features over the xx20 series. xx40

my w520 with an i7 2720qm or whatever the fuck is it is is genuinely better than any intel mobile cpu that isn't quad core. AND it's socketed.

looking for a cheap xx40s (or p it's whichever one is better i cant remember) just for the completion, as well as an xx80 just to have one with more modern hardware, but my xx20 is everything i'll need in a laptop tbh. I would also like to get an x220 at some point.

naming legend for anybody wondering.

  • x - model type, w, t, x, etc
  • x - the device type, 4, 5, 2, etc usually screen size related
  • n - device model? Release related.
  • n - 0, just the number zero, anything that isn't a zero is e waste im pretty sure.
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Upgrading the ram of my x240 is my therapy

Yes. You need to won in lottery if you want to go a therapy xD

Just a friendly reminder there are therapists that work pro bono or for discounted rates. I'm paying $60/ session without insurance and it's an investment for my mental health, future relationships and career.

postin' from my 4th gen X1 Carbon running arch converted from antergos.

So what the ram is soldered, its 4lbs and still gets 7+ hours of battery life after 8 years of use.

So you're just going to call me out like that, huh?

$ grep ^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT /etc/default/grub
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="init=emacs -- -e doctor"
$

Let's say I have an old ThinkPad..

Where does one start when trying Arch?

I used some Linux distros before and tinkered a little bit but I'm not too deep into Arch atm (but eager to get into it).

I just followed the comfy arch install guide with some additions from the comments section on YouTube, and I had a working machine quickly.

... ooohh, that's not a terrible idea actually.

I've been buying old rigs and installing Proxmox, but this would work too I guess.

Incidentally:

  • which models are the best new old?
  • what are the best places to get them?

...asking for a friend.

Old MacBook Airs make great Linux machines. EBay is a good place to look for them

Excuse me! I would never buy a thinkpad.

Good, keep the prices low for the smart people who do.

low prices

On a Thinkpad!? Unless you're buying a last-generation one that's on clearance, that's a laugh.

homie you can get a t480 for like 150 dollars. For an 8th gen intel mobile chip that's not a bad price.

All in on an older t420 or something you'll be looking fairly similar, including battery, charger, and storage, unless you get a really good deal.

Well yeah I guess if you're buying a used machine from six years ago with millions in existence because tons of businesses bought them it'll be cheap no matter what manufacturer it's from. Thinkpads do hold up better against age than most.

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Bro, they cost £300 on Ebay in the UK (a refurbished t480 with an 8th Gen Core i7)

you can routinely find i5 variants here in the US for that price. Im sure the i7 models are more expensive, those are sought after, but frankly as long as the i5 models have 4 cores, they're fine. Last i checked a t480 running a quad core i5 is 75% of my r5 2600, which is more than enough for mild productivity work.

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A last generation ThinkPad is still going to be a beast you can get 6-7 years out of. I have a gen2 X1 that was still a beast until the offspring spilled a Coke on it.

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