Helen told the Post that President Joe Biden tried to call her, but she declined to speak to him since her husband 'was a devout Republican, and he would not have wanted me to talk to him.'
But she added that she does not hold the current president responsible for what happened to her family.
'I don’t have any ill will towards Joe Biden,' she said. 'I’m not one of those people that gets involved in politics. I support Trump, that’s who I’m voting for, but I don’t have ill-will towards Biden.'
Let's see:
Decides who to ignore calls from based on her husband's wishes
Claims to not be involved in politics, yet supports a certain candidate
Yep, that's a garden-variety republican.
The important takeaway here is that Biden made an effort to reach out.
Ok my respect is quickly dropping for these buffoons caught in the crossfire. But it's like interviewing an attendee from a nazi rally, what should I expect? Critical thinking? Morals? Hah!
"devout Republican" haha... They're a religious cult.
Why would you have any respect for Trump supporters going to a Trump rally? Just because they were unlucky? They're still shitty people.
It's a little more complicated for me considering my family once was Republican during Bush's first term. Rural, Appalachian, Pennsylvanian. I know some of these people most likely. Dumb people who know no better. Manipulated by rich interests. Feeling many pressures no doubt but too uninformed to point the finger at the right problem.
They Thought Were Free is a great book that explores this ignorance endemic in the Third Reich.
Ok, I get that you have a strong desire to humanize them. But humanizing someone doesn't mean you automatically respect them, other than affording them the basic level you'd give any other semi-sentient being. What is there to respect in people who cheer on an addlepated, narcissistic, fascist manbaby?
Yeah I'll admit respect probably wasn't the best choice for words, but as a father I respected his shielding his family from bullets, which is probably what led to use of that word.
Thanks for the new word addlepated. It's like a fancy way to say shithead
Right...because you're so great at critical thinking
I'm not a Trump supporter, so yes, definitely a step above.
Granted the bar is on the floor but still.
What about their comment lacked critical thinking?
The baseless accusation of a lack of critical thinking clearly shows a lack of critical thinking.
People using devout to describe their political views unironically is the scariest thing I've read today.
devout Republican
I had the same thought. It's not a sports team and not a religion. But man, some people treat it like that.
If your husband got killed by a fly ball at a baseball game and either coach called to give their condolences you'd accept the call.
Unless it was the Astros of course
Conservatism is entirely an exercise in belief. Just like religion, if you apply logic to it, it falls apart.
One day she'll realize that after her husband was killed, the candidate she supports cared more about his shoes than about him.
Sadly, she won't realize shit. These people don't have revelations about who they support politically. They bury their heads in the sand eternally. I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we've ever had.
I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we’ve ever had.
Honest question: do those folks say that because of how that campaign and presidency made them feel at the time, or is it honestly based in policy, politics, or something else tangible? Thank you.
Honestly, it's a mixed bag of all three. For some, the nostalgia of that time is very strong and for others they feel like GWB embodied the best of the Republican party(which says so much about the Republican party). And some are just bullshit contrarians who want to shut the people up who tout Obama and Biden's accomplishments.
Thanks for the insightful reply. I appreciate it.
Americans--especially those older--tend to hold favorable views of past presidents even if they didn't approve of them in office. W had a majority favorable opinion even among Democrats in 2018, and I wouldn't be surprised if the number were higher now.
I'm glad I'm not the only one repeating this.
He was more concerned about his shoes than:
Following simple directions
Getting off stage
Acknowledging his staff was in danger
Getting the fuck away from danger
Asking about anyone else being injured
Leaving the scene
You know....NORMAL FUCKING SHIT
But no, he needed to stand on stage AND at his get away vehicle to throw his fist up like he personally took down the gunmen.
I cringed watching the SS try to get him to safety and he refused. I was just hoping no one else was going to get shot while he tried to be some kind of "hero".
Doubtful.
Why am I getting downvoted?
People think this lady is smart enough to engage in critical thinking later, despite what we've seen from her?
I think it’s also important to note that we didn’t hear about this from Biden’s camp. They did their job cause it was the right thing to do, not for some publicity stunt.
"Devout Republican" is also pretty telling. These people aren't politically Conservative, they are religiously Republican. They worship their party and its leaders, and just like religion, they never require evidence for anything they believe.
Conservatism is not an ideology for smart people or critical thinkers.
You can’t discount the selfish and hateful as stupid as even the most vile people can be cunning. I’d agree that the median conservative would be less intelligent than the median liberal, but that discludes the folks looking to take from others their money, freedom, and time in order to enrich themselves monetarily or psychologically. Not everything can be Hanlon’s razor’d, sometimes people just enjoy sucking.
Not involved in politics, simply supports the same party as her husband without questioning it
Just as the republicans want how women should vote?
Biden is a better man than Trump will ever be even with half his brain turned to jelly
How does any sane person look at this guy and see anything except a pig?
If he promised to be to the Left of Bernie I still wouldn't vote for him.
How the hell can his daughter even stand him? Isn't Ivana HER mother?
Grooming. No doubt he’s fucked (more correctly, raped) her.
I'll assume that Ivanka building a mausoleum would upset Daddy, and she's not going to upset the applecart at this point.
He's a horrible person, and makes everyone who contacts him toxic
I'm... How did I not know she died? In 2022? What??
From a fall in her home? Oh my goodness.
It's almost like Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone else.
She won't. He doesn't like anyone from his cult, they're just too dumb to see it.
Apologies for appearing insensitive, but this sentence is hilarious.
"It was going to be a nice day with the family," she continued. "It was a bad day."
We just wanted to see the fat child fucker, but it wasn't as nice as you might think.
the Cuban Missile Crisis was not poggers
But she'll still Vote for Him because she's NOT in a Cult!
Although her husband was a "devout" republican... uh huh
And she never will, only Donald Trump matters to Donald Trump
Why should Trump care? He got all the media attention he needed.
He doesn’t give a fuck about her
If she ever thought she would, that was very silly of her
He ?
Why would she? Her loser husband died, what a loser. Trump got shot he didn't die.
Jokes aside, I wish her and her family the best and offer my condolences. No one deserves to lose a loved one like that.
Edit: added an a
And she never will
There's a non-zero chance Trump will call them "losers". Maybe not right now, but sometimes in the future.
And probably won't ever, because Trump doesn't like people who "lose".
Those are suckers and losers in Trump's rotten brain.
I would like to state unequivocally that the wife of the Trump supporter that got shot at the Trump rally is not a crisis actor.
I wouldn't think so but given their history of projection you have to wonder.
Something something leopards something face
No shit. Why would you expect that?
So basically don't stand behind that guy or you're just a disposable human shield 🛡️.
Less of a shield and more of a backstop in this case
He hasn’t heard from her either….(because of the ear)
I'm shocked. SHOCKED!!
I hope she’s not surprised.
Imagine how his family feels..
Oooh. I might prefer ex-president to former President.
What are chances that he's called Sleepy Joe in her contacts list?
Y’know, that does put a thought in my head.
How do you know the President is calling? If I saw a caller ID saying anything like that I’m going to assume spam. Unknown DC number, also spam.
Does an aide come to my door and hand me a phone, or warn me that the next call is official?
Otherwise of course I missed the call, guess the President gets to leave a voicemail! And we can play telephone tag with his staff until there’s another moment in his day…?
You can make the caller ID say whatever you want. It probably says "White House", and, you know, it doesn't take a Biden voter to figure that one out.
“White House”
“Neat, more spam….wonder what they’d try to get me with this time, send gift cards to save the country? Wait, no, that’s not a thing…could it be the actual White House?!?!?…Too late.” 😂
Maybe I’m just in the generation so burned out in spam and junk calls that it’s just me, but that’s about how I think that would go.
Yeah I'm with you, I don't answer any calls unless it's a known contact that I've put in the my contacts list. Any other callers can leave a voicemail if it's important (and it very frequently isn't).
an aide on the other end of the phone will greet you and then advise they are transferring you to speak to the president.
I'm not entirely sure myself. Some callers are recognized by a carrier and get custom names (at least my does it), so there's probably a way to communicate the president is calling. It won't play the national anthem instead of a ringtone, but that, at least, would make it stand out from random spam callers.
RNC already co-opted his death so they got a martyr out of it anyway.
I mean, she already has a chance to buy a $50,000 NFT that enters her to win a lunch with a cardboard cutout of trump? Greedy people, man... What else do you want?
Also, "I actually like fascist rally goers that take bullets for me and DON'T die, okay? Let's face it, okay, your dead husband was a loser, ma'am, and he wouldn't like you being such a nasty woman to such a jesus like me, okay? Anyway, I heard you were single now, maybe you need some money to take care of your kids and I have an opportunity the likes of which some are saying they've never seen - they call it "oppty-wopty" for short, okay, some of them do and you know that and I know that... But, I know a TREMENDOUS and quick way for you to make $130,000? Do you like weird shaped/smelling mushrooms? SNIFF"
Raising 3 million for the families is better than a phone call
Let's see:
Decides who to ignore calls from based on her husband's wishes
Claims to not be involved in politics, yet supports a certain candidate
Yep, that's a garden-variety republican.
The important takeaway here is that Biden made an effort to reach out.
Ok my respect is quickly dropping for these buffoons caught in the crossfire. But it's like interviewing an attendee from a nazi rally, what should I expect? Critical thinking? Morals? Hah!
"devout Republican" haha... They're a religious cult.
Why would you have any respect for Trump supporters going to a Trump rally? Just because they were unlucky? They're still shitty people.
It's a little more complicated for me considering my family once was Republican during Bush's first term. Rural, Appalachian, Pennsylvanian. I know some of these people most likely. Dumb people who know no better. Manipulated by rich interests. Feeling many pressures no doubt but too uninformed to point the finger at the right problem.
They Thought Were Free is a great book that explores this ignorance endemic in the Third Reich.
Ok, I get that you have a strong desire to humanize them. But humanizing someone doesn't mean you automatically respect them, other than affording them the basic level you'd give any other semi-sentient being. What is there to respect in people who cheer on an addlepated, narcissistic, fascist manbaby?
Yeah I'll admit respect probably wasn't the best choice for words, but as a father I respected his shielding his family from bullets, which is probably what led to use of that word.
Thanks for the new word addlepated. It's like a fancy way to say shithead
Right...because you're so great at critical thinking
I'm not a Trump supporter, so yes, definitely a step above.
Granted the bar is on the floor but still.
What about their comment lacked critical thinking?
The baseless accusation of a lack of critical thinking clearly shows a lack of critical thinking.
People using devout to describe their political views unironically is the scariest thing I've read today.
I had the same thought. It's not a sports team and not a religion. But man, some people treat it like that.
If your husband got killed by a fly ball at a baseball game and either coach called to give their condolences you'd accept the call.
Unless it was the Astros of course
Conservatism is entirely an exercise in belief. Just like religion, if you apply logic to it, it falls apart.
One day she'll realize that after her husband was killed, the candidate she supports cared more about his shoes than about him.
Sadly, she won't realize shit. These people don't have revelations about who they support politically. They bury their heads in the sand eternally. I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we've ever had.
Honest question: do those folks say that because of how that campaign and presidency made them feel at the time, or is it honestly based in policy, politics, or something else tangible? Thank you.
Honestly, it's a mixed bag of all three. For some, the nostalgia of that time is very strong and for others they feel like GWB embodied the best of the Republican party(which says so much about the Republican party). And some are just bullshit contrarians who want to shut the people up who tout Obama and Biden's accomplishments.
Thanks for the insightful reply. I appreciate it.
Americans--especially those older--tend to hold favorable views of past presidents even if they didn't approve of them in office. W had a majority favorable opinion even among Democrats in 2018, and I wouldn't be surprised if the number were higher now.
I'm glad I'm not the only one repeating this.
He was more concerned about his shoes than:
Following simple directions Getting off stage Acknowledging his staff was in danger Getting the fuck away from danger Asking about anyone else being injured Leaving the scene
You know....NORMAL FUCKING SHIT
But no, he needed to stand on stage AND at his get away vehicle to throw his fist up like he personally took down the gunmen.
I cringed watching the SS try to get him to safety and he refused. I was just hoping no one else was going to get shot while he tried to be some kind of "hero".
Doubtful.
Why am I getting downvoted?
People think this lady is smart enough to engage in critical thinking later, despite what we've seen from her?
I think it’s also important to note that we didn’t hear about this from Biden’s camp. They did their job cause it was the right thing to do, not for some publicity stunt.
"Devout Republican" is also pretty telling. These people aren't politically Conservative, they are religiously Republican. They worship their party and its leaders, and just like religion, they never require evidence for anything they believe.
Conservatism is not an ideology for smart people or critical thinkers.
You can’t discount the selfish and hateful as stupid as even the most vile people can be cunning. I’d agree that the median conservative would be less intelligent than the median liberal, but that discludes the folks looking to take from others their money, freedom, and time in order to enrich themselves monetarily or psychologically. Not everything can be Hanlon’s razor’d, sometimes people just enjoy sucking.
Just as the republicans want how women should vote?
Biden is a better man than Trump will ever be even with half his brain turned to jelly
Which brain is jelly in this equation?
Yes
I'll bet Trump hasn't given the guy a second thought. All of Trump's thoughts are about Trump.
I'll bet Trump didn't give him a first thought.
"I really don't care, do u?"
It's almost quaint by this point how she believes this orange turd cares about her.
He prefers rally-goers that don't get shot and killed.
That rally-goer knew what he signed up for anyway.
Maybe he thinks they are a "loser" and a "sucker" because they didn't survive. Wouldn't be the first time he said that about dead Americans.
Sounds on brand.
Also, she should get over it.
Isn't that what he said about the shooting in Perry, Iowa?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-tells-supporters-get-iowa-school-shooting-move-forward-rcna132610
Piece of shit doesn’t contact piece of shit about piece of shit, shot by piece of shit.
Next.
Seriously. She even refused a call from Biden. These people are ignorant fools who can't help themselves.
Why would she? Her husband did his job and helped Trump get more votes. That’s all that sack of shit cates about.
"Well I got hurt too"
-Trump... probably
More like "get over it" I presume.
"I prefer supporters that don't get shot."
The 'too' is superfluous
Trump supporters are really something else.
And that something else is idiot fucks
Photos of Trump's wife's gravesite.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ivana-trump-grave-weeds/
Goddamn.
How does any sane person look at this guy and see anything except a pig?
If he promised to be to the Left of Bernie I still wouldn't vote for him.
How the hell can his daughter even stand him? Isn't Ivana HER mother?
Grooming. No doubt he’s fucked (more correctly, raped) her.
I'll assume that Ivanka building a mausoleum would upset Daddy, and she's not going to upset the applecart at this point.
He's a horrible person, and makes everyone who contacts him toxic
I'm... How did I not know she died? In 2022? What??
From a fall in her home? Oh my goodness.
It's almost like Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone else.
She won't. He doesn't like anyone from his cult, they're just too dumb to see it.
Apologies for appearing insensitive, but this sentence is hilarious.
We just wanted to see the fat child fucker, but it wasn't as nice as you might think.
the Cuban Missile Crisis was not poggers
But she'll still Vote for Him because she's NOT in a Cult!
Although her husband was a "devout" republican... uh huh
And she never will, only Donald Trump matters to Donald Trump
Why should Trump care? He got all the media attention he needed.
He doesn’t give a fuck about her
If she ever thought she would, that was very silly of her
He ?
Why would she? Her loser husband died, what a loser. Trump got shot he didn't die.
Jokes aside, I wish her and her family the best and offer my condolences. No one deserves to lose a loved one like that.
Edit: added an a
And she never will
There's a non-zero chance Trump will call them "losers". Maybe not right now, but sometimes in the future.
And probably won't ever, because Trump doesn't like people who "lose".
Those are suckers and losers in Trump's rotten brain.
I would like to state unequivocally that the wife of the Trump supporter that got shot at the Trump rally is not a crisis actor.
I wouldn't think so but given their history of projection you have to wonder.
Something something leopards something face
No shit. Why would you expect that?
So basically don't stand behind that guy or you're just a disposable human shield 🛡️.
Less of a shield and more of a backstop in this case
He hasn’t heard from her either….(because of the ear)
I'm shocked. SHOCKED!!
I hope she’s not surprised.
Imagine how his family feels..
Oooh. I might prefer ex-president to former President.
What are chances that he's called Sleepy Joe in her contacts list?
Y’know, that does put a thought in my head.
How do you know the President is calling? If I saw a caller ID saying anything like that I’m going to assume spam. Unknown DC number, also spam.
Does an aide come to my door and hand me a phone, or warn me that the next call is official?
Otherwise of course I missed the call, guess the President gets to leave a voicemail! And we can play telephone tag with his staff until there’s another moment in his day…?
You can make the caller ID say whatever you want. It probably says "White House", and, you know, it doesn't take a Biden voter to figure that one out.
“Neat, more spam….wonder what they’d try to get me with this time, send gift cards to save the country? Wait, no, that’s not a thing…could it be the actual White House?!?!?…Too late.” 😂
Maybe I’m just in the generation so burned out in spam and junk calls that it’s just me, but that’s about how I think that would go.
Yeah I'm with you, I don't answer any calls unless it's a known contact that I've put in the my contacts list. Any other callers can leave a voicemail if it's important (and it very frequently isn't).
an aide on the other end of the phone will greet you and then advise they are transferring you to speak to the president.
I'm not entirely sure myself. Some callers are recognized by a carrier and get custom names (at least my does it), so there's probably a way to communicate the president is calling. It won't play the national anthem instead of a ringtone, but that, at least, would make it stand out from random spam callers.
RNC already co-opted his death so they got a martyr out of it anyway.
I mean, she already has a chance to buy a $50,000 NFT that enters her to win a lunch with a cardboard cutout of trump? Greedy people, man... What else do you want?
Also, "I actually like fascist rally goers that take bullets for me and DON'T die, okay? Let's face it, okay, your dead husband was a loser, ma'am, and he wouldn't like you being such a nasty woman to such a jesus like me, okay? Anyway, I heard you were single now, maybe you need some money to take care of your kids and I have an opportunity the likes of which some are saying they've never seen - they call it "oppty-wopty" for short, okay, some of them do and you know that and I know that... But, I know a TREMENDOUS and quick way for you to make $130,000? Do you like weird shaped/smelling mushrooms? SNIFF"
Raising 3 million for the families is better than a phone call
They're not mutually exclusive.