Yeah, I think Schneider is a dipshit and a bigot, but this one is on the organizers. Were they expecting "makin' copieees" and shit?
Is this what happens when you choose from "entertainers" list by sorting by "price - low to high"? Is this really a surprise when you shop from the clearance rack?
Were these organizers looking at the list and saying "Hmm, Carrot Top is a bit too 'high brow' for our engagement. Who else do we have?"
They still could have taken five minutes to check him out on YouTube or just look him up on Wikipedia or something.
I wonder if this was a case of someone seeing a "big name" but being clueless about his history and thinking, "I recognize his name, must mean he's popular." Then they hired him without vetting because he had a recognizable name and they believed he was therefore popular and "cool". I mean, I know who Rob Schneider is because I've heard his name get thrown around a lot, but I had no idea he was a bigoted piece of shit because I've never (knowingly) watched any of his movies, nor do I keep up with celebrity gossip.
That said, it's really stupid to hire people without vetting them in this day and age because people have become so insane and brainless that you have no clue what they might say when they get up on stage; but 10 years ago I could see you being able to get away with not vetting celebrities. As such, the person/people who approved him might have been +10 years out of touch and/or lazy.
Trust me when I say that since this was in Saskatchewan, it's likely nobody checked because it never even crossed their minds that they should.
Truth, Saskatchewan tends to echo a lot of the transphobic legislation of the States. They passed a law requiring parents to give consent to use requested pronouns in schools. The place isn't what one would call "trans issue forward". I could totally see some ass backwards planning committee thinking it would be great before belatedly remembering the sort of people who attend these sorts of charity events actually tend to be fairly empathetic to their fellow humans...
Guess they learned that lesson the hard way then.
Yeah to be fair I love a lot of movies he’s in and reading about this makes me so disappointed. I’m sure there’s other actors and celebrities that I would also be disappointed about too.
Don’t sleep, Schneider is also:
Noooo, I genuinely had no idea he was a pos. Man that sucks I liked his shitty movies and now I can't watch them for a nostalgic feel any more :( I am legit bummed.
Anti-vaxx jokes at a hospital fundraiser. That's one of the stupider moves I've seen today.
Hiring him was the dumb move considering that it's known he's a reich-wing fuckwit
Rob doesn't seem to be the smartest of people.
Dude thought he was writing material for a roast or what?
Rob Schneider. The SNL guy that had one character, then moved on to being remembered as "The Stapler" on South Park.
What an inspiration.
Edit. Now that I think about it, Schneider is actually being a true comedian through and through here. The golden rule is to always punch up, and Schneider is attempting to do just that.
I started Googling "Rob Schneider" and Google autocompleted "herp de derp" after that.
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I mean, by many measures Alex Jones is more accomplished than me, but I'm very happy to be where I am instead of being Alex Jones.
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Lets just cut all the way to the end and "Godwin's law" for this.
Adolph Hitler is "more accomplished" than me, but I have zero desire to accomplish what he did. So I'm not sure "more accomplished" is really a good measure to try to aspire to.
Being really good at being a shithead is not the win you think it is.
The guy that's been riding Adam Sandler's coattails for 34 years? Oh yeah, he's super accomplished.
I thought you were referring to how much he has to punch up, cuz he's such a a scumbag(expanding on my joke). But looking at your account history... Wtf why are you even bothering?
Not if he's an anti vaxxer and anti-trans.
So was Jimmy Saville. What's your point?
I wouldn't want his list of accomplishments. And I say that as someone who didn't end up a major success at standup. If I had to be hateful to be successful, I wouldn't take that bargain.
I got blocked by him on Twitter (in 2012!) for mocking his whackjob antivax views. He was espousing shit headed antivax nonsense long before it was fashionable.
8 years ahead of his time is some proper foresight
12 years ago friend
Aye, and 2020 is 4 years ago
I think they’re saying before the Covid anti vaccine crowd.
Antivax goes back at least a decade before your 2012 blocking. My kid was born in 2001 and the whole vaccines cause autism thing was already big. In fact, I'd suggest it was nearly mainstream at the time.
When the study that suggested the correlation with autism got thoroughly debunked, nay, proven willfully fraudulent, it fizzled out a little bit, but has still stuck around like a raging case of herpes to this day.
Yes I know. I've was there for it too mocking these dinguses. But it only became mainstream with COVID when it sort of metastasized and merged with a bunch of other deranged conspiracy nonsense via MAGA & QAnon.
Think Andrew Wakefield was before that. I wanna say... 2006? 2008? 2020 is just when it started killing even more people
I hope you are happy to have that honor. I would be.
I certainly am. I also got blocked by Kirstie Alley, Rudy Giuliani and Michael Avenatti for criticizing their cult, grift & grift respectively. I'm sure there are a few others I don't know about.
It was never fashionable.
At first I was sad reading that an actor I liked turned out to be a bigot, but then I realized I was confusing this dipshit with Roy Scheider and felt better.
Roy Scheider is, unfortunately, no longer with us. Rob Schneider is, unfortunately, still with us.
Calling him an "actor" is incredibly generous.
Hey, don't forget smoking lamp!
I'm sorry, was that expensive piece?
Was that expensive piece?
You should never throw a bong, kid. Ever.
dude isn't even funny in the first place. he can't do a Dave Chappell. Pander to the bigoted masses with a modicum of talent. Now if Dave Chappell wasn't a pos he could easily be the funniest man in comedy instead of a fringe washup but here we are. Used to love them both for their niech humor but lets be honest Rob was only ever funny cause he was proped up by mid Adam Sandler scripts.
I went to see Rob Schneider perform comedy round 2015. Tickets were free for a Saturday night. It was at 80% capacity, which is unusual since it's always sold out.
He was pretty rough and attempted to be edgy. He already had gay jokes and there was polite laughter, but nothing compared to the professional comedians who opened for him.
Honestly I thought he'd quit after a few years.
blame adam sandler.
Hes been clinging to Adam Sandlers career and been artificially buoyed by it for over a decade.
Why is Dave chappell is a POS? Did he do something awful recently?
I haven't watch anything from him since forever because I don't find his jokes funny, it's mostly him complaining or trash talk other people.
His shows are pretty much him making fun of trans people and whining bc people call him on his shit for doing nothing but making fun of trans people.
Here's some excepts from The Closer in 2022. I watched this begrudgingly to prove to a buddy of mine that he was, in fact, being transphobic (said buddy is no longer buddy), and I haven't watched anything of his shit since but it's probably just him whining even more now:
Every time I come out onstage, I be scared. I be lookin’ around the crowd, searching. For knuckles and Adam’s apples to see where the threats might be coming from.
And then she hikes her skirt up and she pulls a real live, meaty dick out!
If I was honest, I wouldn’t have fallen for it. I’d have just looked at the picture like, “Look at that big chiseled jawline, that big thick Joe Rogan neck. Is that a dude? Is your daughter a man?” Can’t say that shit. It’s really annoying.
trans-bitch from the picture.
A couple of more drinks and these fellows are gonna start asking her for some pussy, she might not have.
I was careful to call her a bitch, ’cause I didn’t want to blow her cover.
“Well.” I am a girl now, n*gger. You must treat me as such.
Gender is a fact.
Now… I am not saying that to say, that trans women aren’t women. I’m just sayin, that those pussies that they got… You know what I mean?
I’m not saying it is not pussy, but that’s like Beyond Pussy or Impossible Pussy. You know what I mean? It tastes like pussy but that’s not quite what it is, is it? It’s not blood, that is beet juice.
You wouldn't even need to change that many words from the Carlin interview for it to be 100% accurate to today. Andrew > Dave, Jewish > Black. Done.
It’s not blood, that is beet juice.
wat
I guess in Chappelle's view women are just their cycle or something
Idk, kinda unfair to just post excerpts, his sets are stories with a point.
What sort of non-bigoted story do you think capable of containing all those particular posted punchlines?
I mean I've watched them. It's not that bad
Do you think trans people think those jokes are not that bad?
It seems more like you don't care that they're hurtful.
Chappelle makes fun of everyone, sounds like you're just mad because this time it was about you.
I'm not trans and I'm not sure why you think "he makes fun of everyone" is an excuse to say hurtful things.
I watched The Closer. It is in fact that bad. I'm not giving him the time for anything else
Idk why that's the argument his defenders make, that we wouldn't criticize it if we watched it. Maybe you're skinnermeming yourself. "I can't be wrong it's the trans supporters that are wrong!"
Especially when the people who watched it criticized it.
Of course, some people posting refuse to even believe that.
That was... The point though? He thinks trans women aren't women. That was like a full third of the show's transcript, and I even left some off
So what do you view as the point of saying all these things or the point of the show itself?
I guess the point was about the one token trans person he deemed worthy of his respect (who killed herself, probably unrelated) bc she was totally fine with him making fun of her identity so that makes it ok to just dead gender her after talking about how he pretty much bullied her and she took it bc of his position in the industry so that makes it ok to just degrade whole group of people
Or something
Go off though if you wanna defend transphobia I guess
He insults transgenders in routines and bitches about people calling him out for it. He also throws out stupid stereotypes about various other groups but they aren't generally direct insults like with trans people. He tops it off with complaining about cancel culture cause apparently he can insult and call other groups out for just living their life, but if somebody calls him out on that crap it's bad.
"Transgenders" is not the way to refer to trans people, but thank you for the support.
Nice, you got down voted for asking a question
Tends to happen, they swung back to positive tho!
Sucking up to Elmo comes to mind.
Rob Schneider peaked literally last century with Deuce Bigalow. As if that were not bad enough...
I believe he peaked at "making copies..." on SNL. Deuce just sped up the downhill roll
He peaked at the first "making copies" sketch. Then they didn't stop.
Yeah, that was particularly bad habit of SNL back then. They hit upon a mildly amusing joke and then just beat it to death by doing it over and over when it was barely a little funny the first time.
It's a wonder they didn't create a "making copies" movie with how they were back then.
On the other hand, sometimes those movies were surprising.
Remember that The Blues Brothers was a one-joke SNL sketch, as was Spinal Tap.
From that era, the Wayne's World movies weren't high art, but they were pretty funny.
Wait! Spinal tap wasn't an SNL sketch.
It was a sketch on something called "The TV Show" according to wiki.
It says they worked on a pilot for The TV Show, which had spinal tap as one of the sketches.
I guess it still started as a sketch so you are right in your point that sometimes these things start as nothing more than that but it wasnt SNL. Although the cast have all been on SNL at some point.
Oh, I'm sorry, you are correct. It was The Folksmen from A Mighty Wind that started as an SNL sketch. Exactly the same people, so you can see why I was confused.
But what about all those Adam Sandler movies where he shows up for 20 seconds to say ''you can do it''?
Rob Schneider? You mean that 'you can do it' guy from the Adam Sandler movies?
Just about the only good thing he'd done.
He was pretty good in Surf Ninja. Like a lot of people, he's better when he's just a supporting character.
You mean last millennium?
Oh, look, another old comedian jumps on the bigot bandwagon. It's an incredibly transparent trend now for when they can't write the same material that got them there in the first place, or when they are no longer working with the person that wrote their material for them.
Take a few shots at trans people, purely for publicity, then use that sudden boost from the circle jerking media to secure yourself a Netflix special, where you can talk about how you've been cancelled for an hour and a half for a big payout.
It's just a marketing ploy for using peoples own outrage against them.
He's been a conservative hack for a while (and he's been a hack for his entire career), he just hid it better than, say, Victoria Jackson or something. This is him feeling too comfortable. I'm glad this crowd didn't let him stay comfortable.
Rob Schneider is... The Bigot! Rated PG-13
A Bigoted C list celebrity riding on the coat tails of his friends pees on the grave of a child killed by a lynch mob at midnight on a full moon while wearing black face and is stuck by lightning while making eye contact with his 15 year old mtf trans athlete niece he kidnapped to sell to child sex trafficers and they Freaky Friday switch bodies! Will The Bigot learn life's not so easy or trendy after Republican elective officals publicly attack him and he recieves dozens of credible death threats, and thousands of rape threats? Will he discover trans people just want to exist, and culture shock isn't a great reason to want to harm people you don't even know? Find out this summer, in THE BIGOT starting Rob Schneider and that guy from King of Queens, with a cameo appearance from Adam Sandler as a man in a 30min uninterrupted Pringles Comercial in the middle of the film for no reason, this summer at limited release locations in exclusively rural areas four to five hours away from you!
What's up with all these washed up celebrities coming back to the spotlight just to make an ass of themselves?
They were always an ass. That's the secret.
Nowdays, we just have more visibility into this shit than we did "back in their day".
Not even necessarily more visibility, go back 20 years and this kind of stuff was popular. Go back another 5 years and anti-gay humour was also still popular. It wasn't even considered anti-gay because anti-gay was the default option, so it would have just been called "gay jokes".
Though it makes me wonder what is considered normal today that will be seen as problematic in a decade and popularly opposed in two.
He's been on this tip for a long while, supporting Ron Paul and being anti-vax. Last Week Tonight did an episode on Vaccines, and he shows up in a no longer valid comparison of RFK Jr on the left, Alex Jones wherever he fits in, and even this guy. I remember him also calling for Ron Paul 2012, but doesn't seem to be from this one, so hopefully I'm remembering that right.
Still, he's been libertarian and antivax for a long time, and those communities have been heavily aimed at by fascists for recruitment.
"You think you're so cool cuz you pee with your penis!" - Rob Schneider responding to trans audience members who boo him
I don't really understand these dipshits. The older I get the more tolerant of others outlook on life I get. I might not agree but I don't have to trash them to make myself feel better. I certainly don't begrudge them their own preferences. Perhaps one reason for this is that I have become asexual. Or chaste to use a really old term for not interested.
I don't know that asexual is really the same as chaste, because chaste implies you're using some sort of willpower to avoid sex rather than just not wanting to have sex. Either, in my opinion, is a fine way to live your life, but they're not really the same. I wouldn't say that all nuns are asexual, but all nuns are supposed to be chaste.
In the past terms like 'chaste' 'innocent' and the like, were used to describe people who seemed to naturally not be interested in sexual things rather than someone who was restraining themselves. Sexual repression really wasn't a concept until very recently, and in the past people would day Zealous, or similar terms for someone more actively fighting against their natural desires.
Its the closest thing you can come up with from the past. I think they are the same. Especially in this world. You don't have to expend any will in this world to be chaste or asexual. Its not like anyone you would want is going to come chasing you.
You're just growing as a person, continuously. Many people stop growing, settling into rigid ideals and reacting with hostility to pressure against those ideals.
All these people seem to be in decline as well. I suspect their egos can't handle it and they resort to weird distorted conservatism so they can blame others for their fall from grace.
I refer to myself as kinda sexual, I guess the kids are calling it graysexual these days, I never thought to use "chaste", but that's a good descriptor. I used to always say that I'm just a prude, lol
Oh to be sure I find women attractive and I could see myself under certain circumstances being in a relationship again but I'm fine just like I am. I wouldn't ever consider it for the sake of just having sex. It would have to be with someone who accepts me flaws and all and I of course would have to feel the same about them. Not likely where I live in the world today.
If this means that he finally fades into obscurity and we never have to hear from him again, maybe it’s for the greater good.
I'll never forgive Adam Sandler for keeping Rob Schneider vaguely relevant by letting him ride his coattails for the last 30 years. "Makin' coppppieeesss" stfu you bigoted hack.
Weird coming from a guy who basically played a transgender person in the Hot Chick and also is a stapler.
Imagine starring in a movie where your character is desperately trying to explain to loved ones that they're trapped in the wrong body and don't understand how to navigate this gender that they find themselves in and then come out in the other side being transphobic. Like, he's so media illiterate that he doesn't empathize with his own characters. So then it was just hateful jokes the whole time, I guess. Dude stopped maturing at like 15.
He was at his best as a carrot.
Lmao did they have no idea who he was when they booked him? Did someone hire him as a joke? I don't get why he was even there.
There are a quite a lot of nursing and medical admin staff in healthcare who are rabidly antivax. At least in America, so I assume it's at least partially true in Canada to. I wonder if that had something to do with this clearly terrible pairing of organization and washed-up clown 'comedian'.
Hire Rob Schneider to do his stand up act. Rob Schneider does his stand up act.
They mentioned they were anti-trans and anti-vax. They didn't repeat them because there is no need to repeat offensive jokes. I'm sure there are Rob Schneider routines on YouTube if you're curious.
Yes I need to know in order to judge them for myself
Again, I am sure there are Rob Schnieder routines on YouTube if you're curious and I doubt he made trans and vaccine jokes just this one time. Why do you need to know the specific jokes he made? Why isn't the fact that the audience booed the organization gave a sincere apology enough evidence for you that his jokes offended a bunch of people and were not appropriate for the venue?
at least citing it somehow would support what the article is saying
Yet again, you can search for him on YouTube. I have no idea why you need to know whether or not you would be offended by his jokes when you weren't even there.
Rob Schneider is my pick for second cast member of Home Alone 2 to be convicted of a felony.
guy who looks like a stupid dick is actually a stupid dick. happens every once in a while.
“You can do it!” 🙃
Please, give an example of an unbiased news org. They don't exist. This one just wears its bias on its sleeve.
Edit: putting this here so people will stop going off.
I was trying to respond to this nutcase's response. I'm saying that bias is fine. But at least this one says what it's for.
.lgbtqnation just the best news site nobody could ever think they could be biased in any way.
But I guess Lemmy fucked it. So sure, down vote.
And what do you think the truth here is? Do you think that the Regina Leader-Post, the local newspaper they got the information from also wears its bias on its sleeve? How about the foundation whose public apology they printed? Is that fake news?
I was trying to respond to this nutcase's response. I'm saying that bias is fine. But at least this one says what it's for.
.lgbtqnation just the best news site nobody could ever think they could be biased in any way.
But I guess Lemmy fucked it. So sure, down vote.
Oops, that sucks. I removed my downvote and upvoted for what it's worth.
Preesh!
AP news, agrigated articles are difficult to all fudge in the same direction. Is there bias in seperate articles? To some degree it's going to happen, does every single article have heavy bias in exactly one direction? Nope.
BBC, Reuters, NPR, and a few other services generally avoid heavy bias by using similar methods of agrigated content from multiple contributers that aren't all working in a single location, for one entity, with the same editor, working for the same owners. There's much less bias found across their platforms, and what's there in terms of bias isn't all to one particular US political party.
I don't know what you are arguing. You can have a bias towards reality. Some have a bias towards centrism, even when one side has lost its mind. My original comment was to an idiot claiming that lgbtq wasn't news because it has a bias.
My point was that everything has a bias in some way, even a bias towards truth or whatever. It's still a bias. Lgbtq nation simply tells you what the bias is explicitly. Which is good. I'd rather they be upfront so I can find news not filled with right wing anti gay screed.
I wasn't arguing. I just took your question about where less biased news could be found seriously, and tried to explain why I thought so on the sources I mentioned.
.lgbtqnation just the best news site nobody could ever think they could be biased in any way.
How dare a comedian make a joke.... You guys are just lame now.
"joke"
If the audience is booing the "comedian", they must not be funny.
Or.... the crowd is soft and cant handle basic critique from a comic. Would you guys be foaming at the mouth is a comic made fun of christians at christian event, and everyone booed? The answer is no, you would be saying how weak the christian were.
Any community can be criticized, but the criticism should be coming from within. Eddie Izzard can make trans jokes, but Rob Schneider doesn't have an interesting perspective to share. When Ricky Gervais roasted the audience of the 2020 Golden Globes, he did it as a fresh insider.
Would you guys be foaming at the mouth is a comic made fun of christians at christian event, and everyone booed? The answer is no, you would be saying how weak the christian were.
Who's "foaming at the mouth"? I'm cringing at how lame Rob Schneider is. I don't want to be in the same room as him because I'll get second hand embarrassment.
Outsiders always have the most basic, over spoken take on shit. If you want a non political example, take every comedian who flies into to NJ to do a show in NYC and decides to make a joke about how bad NJ smells. While it true that they did smell something bad on the ride in, but that's hardly representative of NJ.
So I am not allowed to critique a group an organization with humor unless I am apart of it?
You're allowed to do anything you want and I'm allowed to boo you for it.
Agreed! And that makes you lame, boring, and illogical.
Just dont you dare ever make a joke about a religion you dont belong to, that would be super bad.
dont you dare ever make a joke about a religion you dont belong to
You're right. Child molestation isn't a laughing matter. Hard mode, figure out which one I'm referring to.
Public schools?
Are you suggesting religion and being trans are the same thing?
Because that means you either think both are inherent or both are a choice. So which is it?
Read back a couple comments...
Ok, this is two comments up:
You’re allowed to do anything you want and I’m allowed to boo you for it.
Said by @Duamerthrax.
Not sure why you wanted me to see that...
I guess you cant read and understand a comment thread. Have a great day!
You said:
Read back a couple comments...
I did exactly that. I went back two comments and told you what I read.
So I don't think I'm the one with the understanding problem here.
Is that all you have to add?
I seem to be the only one calling out your silliness, so yes.
You're so close to getting it.
Thank you!
Are you kidding? It's a comedian's job to read the room and tell when their set isn't landing for shit and change tactics on the fly. Maybe he's got his own shit niche but he should learn the basics of tact if he wants gigs.
It's not the audience's fault when a comedian bombs. It's his own damn fool self.
I see a headline, I dont know if it was a real boo, or a "boo" according to the article writer.
Hospitals of Regina Foundation issued a “sincere and unconditional apology” for Scheinder’s comments during his set, which occurred at their Four Seasons Ball. Attendee Tynan Allen told the CBC that “it was just very apparent how uncomfortable everyone felt and how unacceptable the things he was talking about were.”
Maybe read the article along with the headline.
Oh wow, a person or organization caved to pressure, that is super rare...
Your previous comment:
I see a headline, I dont know if it was a real boo, or a “boo” according to the article writer.
The article you didn't read along with the thing I just quoted that you apparently also didn't read:
Attendee Tynan Allen told the CBC that “it was just very apparent how uncomfortable everyone felt and how unacceptable the things he was talking about were.”
It sounds more like you don't want people to have found him offensive. But they clearly did.
You believe everything you read as long as it agrees with you, dont you? There is a news article(s), so they appologized, has happened literally thousands of times, and then there is a quote from a person claiming a thing, literally has happened millions of times. Show me the clip and that is actually a useful thing, artles are literally useless.
You believe everything you read as long as it agrees with you, dont you
Nope. Here's me admitting I was wrong about something earlier today:
And there are, I am sure, Rob Schneider routines on YouTube and I doubt he decided to only tell trans and antivax jokes on this occasion, so you're free to find out for yourself. I have a feeling you'll decide they aren't offensive no matter what they are though.
If he was telling a bunch of N-- jokes, would you similarly come to his defense?
Sure, if they were done in a way that was actually funny to a reasonable person. If statements are just insults then they were never jokes, the problem is that you guys dont even allow people to make fun of particular groups, you start clutching your pearls and gasping. You guys went from the cool guy in the 90s to being super lame.
What sort of "reasonable person" would find a white person telling jokes that use that word unless the joke criticized the word funny?
Which "cool guy" comedians in the 90s told such jokes? Can you name them?
Trans jokes were not relevant in the 90s. What I am talking about is how in the 90s the general left side was the side that was funny and would tell any joke and the right was the more religious and pearl clutching, now the sides have reversed and you guys the are lame ones.
Your example is a joke talking about how it's a racist word. Which is not what I asked you to show me. Also, that video was from 8 years ago, not the 90s. So how does that support your point?
That is an example of the joke being funny when teh n word is used. And yes, the aspect of the N word being racist would be central role for when it would be used in a joke. That guy did it in a hilarious way and I defend his use of it to answer your first comment.
This is what I said:
What sort of “reasonable person” would find a white person telling jokes that use that word unless the joke criticized the word funny?
And then you provided me a joke (again, not from the 90s like you were talking about) which criticized the word. So I think you proved my point. Racist jokes aren't funny and neither are other bigoted jokes.
Your sentence is confusing, please rewrite if you are looking for a different answer.
And yes, racist and bigoted jokes are funny unless you are pearl clutcher. Racist against every group not just the ones you think we cant make jokes about (to respond to your next comment).
You seem to think that there are funny jokes a white person can tell using that word that do not involve any suggestion of how that word is racist.
So let's see one.
As I said before, I would guess that nearly all jokes that would involve the n word would be centered around how it is racist.
Really? You think there is no such thing as a white person using that word to tell racist jokes? You really think that?
Yeah, I think Schneider is a dipshit and a bigot, but this one is on the organizers. Were they expecting "makin' copieees" and shit?
Is this what happens when you choose from "entertainers" list by sorting by "price - low to high"? Is this really a surprise when you shop from the clearance rack?
Were these organizers looking at the list and saying "Hmm, Carrot Top is a bit too 'high brow' for our engagement. Who else do we have?"
They still could have taken five minutes to check him out on YouTube or just look him up on Wikipedia or something.
I wonder if this was a case of someone seeing a "big name" but being clueless about his history and thinking, "I recognize his name, must mean he's popular." Then they hired him without vetting because he had a recognizable name and they believed he was therefore popular and "cool". I mean, I know who Rob Schneider is because I've heard his name get thrown around a lot, but I had no idea he was a bigoted piece of shit because I've never (knowingly) watched any of his movies, nor do I keep up with celebrity gossip.
That said, it's really stupid to hire people without vetting them in this day and age because people have become so insane and brainless that you have no clue what they might say when they get up on stage; but 10 years ago I could see you being able to get away with not vetting celebrities. As such, the person/people who approved him might have been +10 years out of touch and/or lazy.
Trust me when I say that since this was in Saskatchewan, it's likely nobody checked because it never even crossed their minds that they should.
Truth, Saskatchewan tends to echo a lot of the transphobic legislation of the States. They passed a law requiring parents to give consent to use requested pronouns in schools. The place isn't what one would call "trans issue forward". I could totally see some ass backwards planning committee thinking it would be great before belatedly remembering the sort of people who attend these sorts of charity events actually tend to be fairly empathetic to their fellow humans...
Guess they learned that lesson the hard way then.
Yeah to be fair I love a lot of movies he’s in and reading about this makes me so disappointed. I’m sure there’s other actors and celebrities that I would also be disappointed about too.
Don’t sleep, Schneider is also:
Noooo, I genuinely had no idea he was a pos. Man that sucks I liked his shitty movies and now I can't watch them for a nostalgic feel any more :( I am legit bummed.
Anti-vaxx jokes at a hospital fundraiser. That's one of the stupider moves I've seen today.
Hiring him was the dumb move considering that it's known he's a reich-wing fuckwit
Rob doesn't seem to be the smartest of people.
Dude thought he was writing material for a roast or what?
Rob Schneider. The SNL guy that had one character, then moved on to being remembered as "The Stapler" on South Park.
What an inspiration.
Edit. Now that I think about it, Schneider is actually being a true comedian through and through here. The golden rule is to always punch up, and Schneider is attempting to do just that.
I started Googling "Rob Schneider" and Google autocompleted "herp de derp" after that.
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I mean, by many measures Alex Jones is more accomplished than me, but I'm very happy to be where I am instead of being Alex Jones.
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Lets just cut all the way to the end and "Godwin's law" for this.
Adolph Hitler is "more accomplished" than me, but I have zero desire to accomplish what he did. So I'm not sure "more accomplished" is really a good measure to try to aspire to.
Being really good at being a shithead is not the win you think it is.
The guy that's been riding Adam Sandler's coattails for 34 years? Oh yeah, he's super accomplished.
I thought you were referring to how much he has to punch up, cuz he's such a a scumbag(expanding on my joke). But looking at your account history... Wtf why are you even bothering?
Not if he's an anti vaxxer and anti-trans.
So was Jimmy Saville. What's your point?
I wouldn't want his list of accomplishments. And I say that as someone who didn't end up a major success at standup. If I had to be hateful to be successful, I wouldn't take that bargain.
I got blocked by him on Twitter (in 2012!) for mocking his whackjob antivax views. He was espousing shit headed antivax nonsense long before it was fashionable.
8 years ahead of his time is some proper foresight
12 years ago friend
Aye, and 2020 is 4 years ago
I think they’re saying before the Covid anti vaccine crowd.
Antivax goes back at least a decade before your 2012 blocking. My kid was born in 2001 and the whole vaccines cause autism thing was already big. In fact, I'd suggest it was nearly mainstream at the time.
When the study that suggested the correlation with autism got thoroughly debunked, nay, proven willfully fraudulent, it fizzled out a little bit, but has still stuck around like a raging case of herpes to this day.
Yes I know. I've was there for it too mocking these dinguses. But it only became mainstream with COVID when it sort of metastasized and merged with a bunch of other deranged conspiracy nonsense via MAGA & QAnon.
Think Andrew Wakefield was before that. I wanna say... 2006? 2008? 2020 is just when it started killing even more people
I hope you are happy to have that honor. I would be.
I certainly am. I also got blocked by Kirstie Alley, Rudy Giuliani and Michael Avenatti for criticizing their cult, grift & grift respectively. I'm sure there are a few others I don't know about.
It was never fashionable.
At first I was sad reading that an actor I liked turned out to be a bigot, but then I realized I was confusing this dipshit with Roy Scheider and felt better.
Roy Scheider is, unfortunately, no longer with us. Rob Schneider is, unfortunately, still with us.
Calling him an "actor" is incredibly generous.
Hey, don't forget smoking lamp!
I'm sorry, was that expensive piece?
Was that expensive piece?
You should never throw a bong, kid. Ever.
dude isn't even funny in the first place. he can't do a Dave Chappell. Pander to the bigoted masses with a modicum of talent. Now if Dave Chappell wasn't a pos he could easily be the funniest man in comedy instead of a fringe washup but here we are. Used to love them both for their niech humor but lets be honest Rob was only ever funny cause he was proped up by mid Adam Sandler scripts.
I went to see Rob Schneider perform comedy round 2015. Tickets were free for a Saturday night. It was at 80% capacity, which is unusual since it's always sold out.
He was pretty rough and attempted to be edgy. He already had gay jokes and there was polite laughter, but nothing compared to the professional comedians who opened for him.
Honestly I thought he'd quit after a few years.
blame adam sandler.
Hes been clinging to Adam Sandlers career and been artificially buoyed by it for over a decade.
Why is Dave chappell is a POS? Did he do something awful recently?
I haven't watch anything from him since forever because I don't find his jokes funny, it's mostly him complaining or trash talk other people.
His shows are pretty much him making fun of trans people and whining bc people call him on his shit for doing nothing but making fun of trans people.
Here's some excepts from The Closer in 2022. I watched this begrudgingly to prove to a buddy of mine that he was, in fact, being transphobic (said buddy is no longer buddy), and I haven't watched anything of his shit since but it's probably just him whining even more now:
Every time I come out onstage, I be scared. I be lookin’ around the crowd, searching. For knuckles and Adam’s apples to see where the threats might be coming from.
And then she hikes her skirt up and she pulls a real live, meaty dick out!
If I was honest, I wouldn’t have fallen for it. I’d have just looked at the picture like, “Look at that big chiseled jawline, that big thick Joe Rogan neck. Is that a dude? Is your daughter a man?” Can’t say that shit. It’s really annoying.
trans-bitch from the picture.
A couple of more drinks and these fellows are gonna start asking her for some pussy, she might not have.
I was careful to call her a bitch, ’cause I didn’t want to blow her cover.
“Well.” I am a girl now, n*gger. You must treat me as such.
Gender is a fact.
Now… I am not saying that to say, that trans women aren’t women. I’m just sayin, that those pussies that they got… You know what I mean?
I’m not saying it is not pussy, but that’s like Beyond Pussy or Impossible Pussy. You know what I mean? It tastes like pussy but that’s not quite what it is, is it? It’s not blood, that is beet juice.
And here's what the actual goat comedian who had a lasting impact in the industry beyond a mediocre skit series in late 90s Comedy Central and one movie might retort to Chappelle
You wouldn't even need to change that many words from the Carlin interview for it to be 100% accurate to today. Andrew > Dave, Jewish > Black. Done.
wat
I guess in Chappelle's view women are just their cycle or something
Idk, kinda unfair to just post excerpts, his sets are stories with a point.
What sort of non-bigoted story do you think capable of containing all those particular posted punchlines?
I mean I've watched them. It's not that bad
Do you think trans people think those jokes are not that bad?
It seems more like you don't care that they're hurtful.
Chappelle makes fun of everyone, sounds like you're just mad because this time it was about you.
I'm not trans and I'm not sure why you think "he makes fun of everyone" is an excuse to say hurtful things.
I watched The Closer. It is in fact that bad. I'm not giving him the time for anything else
Idk why that's the argument his defenders make, that we wouldn't criticize it if we watched it. Maybe you're skinnermeming yourself. "I can't be wrong it's the trans supporters that are wrong!"
Especially when the people who watched it criticized it.
Of course, some people posting refuse to even believe that.
That was... The point though? He thinks trans women aren't women. That was like a full third of the show's transcript, and I even left some off
So what do you view as the point of saying all these things or the point of the show itself?
I guess the point was about the one token trans person he deemed worthy of his respect (who killed herself, probably unrelated) bc she was totally fine with him making fun of her identity so that makes it ok to just dead gender her after talking about how he pretty much bullied her and she took it bc of his position in the industry so that makes it ok to just degrade whole group of people
Or something
Go off though if you wanna defend transphobia I guess
He insults transgenders in routines and bitches about people calling him out for it. He also throws out stupid stereotypes about various other groups but they aren't generally direct insults like with trans people. He tops it off with complaining about cancel culture cause apparently he can insult and call other groups out for just living their life, but if somebody calls him out on that crap it's bad.
"Transgenders" is not the way to refer to trans people, but thank you for the support.
Nice, you got down voted for asking a question
Tends to happen, they swung back to positive tho!
Sucking up to Elmo comes to mind.
Rob Schneider peaked literally last century with Deuce Bigalow. As if that were not bad enough...
I believe he peaked at "making copies..." on SNL. Deuce just sped up the downhill roll
He peaked at the first "making copies" sketch. Then they didn't stop.
Yeah, that was particularly bad habit of SNL back then. They hit upon a mildly amusing joke and then just beat it to death by doing it over and over when it was barely a little funny the first time.
It's a wonder they didn't create a "making copies" movie with how they were back then.
On the other hand, sometimes those movies were surprising.
Remember that The Blues Brothers was a one-joke SNL sketch, as was Spinal Tap.
From that era, the Wayne's World movies weren't high art, but they were pretty funny.
Wait! Spinal tap wasn't an SNL sketch.
It was a sketch on something called "The TV Show" according to wiki.
It says they worked on a pilot for The TV Show, which had spinal tap as one of the sketches.
I guess it still started as a sketch so you are right in your point that sometimes these things start as nothing more than that but it wasnt SNL. Although the cast have all been on SNL at some point.
Oh, I'm sorry, you are correct. It was The Folksmen from A Mighty Wind that started as an SNL sketch. Exactly the same people, so you can see why I was confused.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LztVpOOhEY
January 19, 1991. JFC.
But what about all those Adam Sandler movies where he shows up for 20 seconds to say ''you can do it''?
Rob Schneider? You mean that 'you can do it' guy from the Adam Sandler movies?
Just about the only good thing he'd done.
He was pretty good in Surf Ninja. Like a lot of people, he's better when he's just a supporting character.
You mean last millennium?
Oh, look, another old comedian jumps on the bigot bandwagon. It's an incredibly transparent trend now for when they can't write the same material that got them there in the first place, or when they are no longer working with the person that wrote their material for them.
Take a few shots at trans people, purely for publicity, then use that sudden boost from the circle jerking media to secure yourself a Netflix special, where you can talk about how you've been cancelled for an hour and a half for a big payout.
It's just a marketing ploy for using peoples own outrage against them.
He's been a conservative hack for a while (and he's been a hack for his entire career), he just hid it better than, say, Victoria Jackson or something. This is him feeling too comfortable. I'm glad this crowd didn't let him stay comfortable.
Rob Schneider is... The Bigot! Rated PG-13
A Bigoted C list celebrity riding on the coat tails of his friends pees on the grave of a child killed by a lynch mob at midnight on a full moon while wearing black face and is stuck by lightning while making eye contact with his 15 year old mtf trans athlete niece he kidnapped to sell to child sex trafficers and they Freaky Friday switch bodies! Will The Bigot learn life's not so easy or trendy after Republican elective officals publicly attack him and he recieves dozens of credible death threats, and thousands of rape threats? Will he discover trans people just want to exist, and culture shock isn't a great reason to want to harm people you don't even know? Find out this summer, in THE BIGOT starting Rob Schneider and that guy from King of Queens, with a cameo appearance from Adam Sandler as a man in a 30min uninterrupted Pringles Comercial in the middle of the film for no reason, this summer at limited release locations in exclusively rural areas four to five hours away from you!
What's up with all these washed up celebrities coming back to the spotlight just to make an ass of themselves?
They were always an ass. That's the secret.
Nowdays, we just have more visibility into this shit than we did "back in their day".
Not even necessarily more visibility, go back 20 years and this kind of stuff was popular. Go back another 5 years and anti-gay humour was also still popular. It wasn't even considered anti-gay because anti-gay was the default option, so it would have just been called "gay jokes".
Though it makes me wonder what is considered normal today that will be seen as problematic in a decade and popularly opposed in two.
He's been on this tip for a long while, supporting Ron Paul and being anti-vax. Last Week Tonight did an episode on Vaccines, and he shows up in a no longer valid comparison of RFK Jr on the left, Alex Jones wherever he fits in, and even this guy. I remember him also calling for Ron Paul 2012, but doesn't seem to be from this one, so hopefully I'm remembering that right.
Still, he's been libertarian and antivax for a long time, and those communities have been heavily aimed at by fascists for recruitment.
"You think you're so cool cuz you pee with your penis!" - Rob Schneider responding to trans audience members who boo him
I don't really understand these dipshits. The older I get the more tolerant of others outlook on life I get. I might not agree but I don't have to trash them to make myself feel better. I certainly don't begrudge them their own preferences. Perhaps one reason for this is that I have become asexual. Or chaste to use a really old term for not interested.
I don't know that asexual is really the same as chaste, because chaste implies you're using some sort of willpower to avoid sex rather than just not wanting to have sex. Either, in my opinion, is a fine way to live your life, but they're not really the same. I wouldn't say that all nuns are asexual, but all nuns are supposed to be chaste.
In the past terms like 'chaste' 'innocent' and the like, were used to describe people who seemed to naturally not be interested in sexual things rather than someone who was restraining themselves. Sexual repression really wasn't a concept until very recently, and in the past people would day Zealous, or similar terms for someone more actively fighting against their natural desires.
Its the closest thing you can come up with from the past. I think they are the same. Especially in this world. You don't have to expend any will in this world to be chaste or asexual. Its not like anyone you would want is going to come chasing you.
Sorry, responded to the wrong person.
IMHO your sexuality isn't driving your tolerance.
You're just growing as a person, continuously. Many people stop growing, settling into rigid ideals and reacting with hostility to pressure against those ideals.
All these people seem to be in decline as well. I suspect their egos can't handle it and they resort to weird distorted conservatism so they can blame others for their fall from grace.
I refer to myself as kinda sexual, I guess the kids are calling it graysexual these days, I never thought to use "chaste", but that's a good descriptor. I used to always say that I'm just a prude, lol
Oh to be sure I find women attractive and I could see myself under certain circumstances being in a relationship again but I'm fine just like I am. I wouldn't ever consider it for the sake of just having sex. It would have to be with someone who accepts me flaws and all and I of course would have to feel the same about them. Not likely where I live in the world today.
If this means that he finally fades into obscurity and we never have to hear from him again, maybe it’s for the greater good.
I'll never forgive Adam Sandler for keeping Rob Schneider vaguely relevant by letting him ride his coattails for the last 30 years. "Makin' coppppieeesss" stfu you bigoted hack.
Weird coming from a guy who basically played a transgender person in the Hot Chick and also is a stapler.
Imagine starring in a movie where your character is desperately trying to explain to loved ones that they're trapped in the wrong body and don't understand how to navigate this gender that they find themselves in and then come out in the other side being transphobic. Like, he's so media illiterate that he doesn't empathize with his own characters. So then it was just hateful jokes the whole time, I guess. Dude stopped maturing at like 15.
He was at his best as a carrot.
Lmao did they have no idea who he was when they booked him? Did someone hire him as a joke? I don't get why he was even there.
There are a quite a lot of nursing and medical admin staff in healthcare who are rabidly antivax. At least in America, so I assume it's at least partially true in Canada to. I wonder if that had something to do with this clearly terrible pairing of organization and washed-up clown 'comedian'.
Hire Rob Schneider to do his stand up act. Rob Schneider does his stand up act.
Schneider came out as a clown in 2012.
I didn't even need to know he is a bigot to know he sucks, because he has sucked for a long, long, looooooong time.
LOL it's hilarious that rob fucking schneider is the only "celebrity" they can get to trumpet their bullshit
The first rule of comedy is, "Know your audience."
It’s clear he did this for some other reason. I’m assuming he is just starved for attention.
Preaches hate. Receives hate.
I am curious what anti-vaxx routine he thought was appropriate for a medical event
Washed up loser.
Rob . . . Robbyyyyyy . . . The Robster . . . The Robaroonie . . . cracking the bad jokes . . . coasting on what's left of his SNL cred.
If yall haven’t watched The Schneidecker Paradox yet, you should.
that was brilliant, thank you
Agreed. Check it out.
Yeah he really turned into a carrot
Carrot Bottom
no mention of what the jokes were at all
It's always the same jokes.
They mentioned they were anti-trans and anti-vax. They didn't repeat them because there is no need to repeat offensive jokes. I'm sure there are Rob Schneider routines on YouTube if you're curious.
Yes I need to know in order to judge them for myself
Again, I am sure there are Rob Schnieder routines on YouTube if you're curious and I doubt he made trans and vaccine jokes just this one time. Why do you need to know the specific jokes he made? Why isn't the fact that the audience booed the organization gave a sincere apology enough evidence for you that his jokes offended a bunch of people and were not appropriate for the venue?
at least citing it somehow would support what the article is saying
Yet again, you can search for him on YouTube. I have no idea why you need to know whether or not you would be offended by his jokes when you weren't even there.
Rob Schneider is my pick for second cast member of Home Alone 2 to be convicted of a felony.
guy who looks like a stupid dick is actually a stupid dick. happens every once in a while.
“You can do it!” 🙃
Please, give an example of an unbiased news org. They don't exist. This one just wears its bias on its sleeve.
Edit: putting this here so people will stop going off.
And what do you think the truth here is? Do you think that the Regina Leader-Post, the local newspaper they got the information from also wears its bias on its sleeve? How about the foundation whose public apology they printed? Is that fake news?
I was trying to respond to this nutcase's response. I'm saying that bias is fine. But at least this one says what it's for.
But I guess Lemmy fucked it. So sure, down vote.
Oops, that sucks. I removed my downvote and upvoted for what it's worth.
Preesh!
AP news, agrigated articles are difficult to all fudge in the same direction. Is there bias in seperate articles? To some degree it's going to happen, does every single article have heavy bias in exactly one direction? Nope.
BBC, Reuters, NPR, and a few other services generally avoid heavy bias by using similar methods of agrigated content from multiple contributers that aren't all working in a single location, for one entity, with the same editor, working for the same owners. There's much less bias found across their platforms, and what's there in terms of bias isn't all to one particular US political party.
I don't know what you are arguing. You can have a bias towards reality. Some have a bias towards centrism, even when one side has lost its mind. My original comment was to an idiot claiming that lgbtq wasn't news because it has a bias.
My point was that everything has a bias in some way, even a bias towards truth or whatever. It's still a bias. Lgbtq nation simply tells you what the bias is explicitly. Which is good. I'd rather they be upfront so I can find news not filled with right wing anti gay screed.
I wasn't arguing. I just took your question about where less biased news could be found seriously, and tried to explain why I thought so on the sources I mentioned.
.lgbtqnation just the best news site nobody could ever think they could be biased in any way.
How dare a comedian make a joke.... You guys are just lame now.
"joke"
If the audience is booing the "comedian", they must not be funny.
Or.... the crowd is soft and cant handle basic critique from a comic. Would you guys be foaming at the mouth is a comic made fun of christians at christian event, and everyone booed? The answer is no, you would be saying how weak the christian were.
Any community can be criticized, but the criticism should be coming from within. Eddie Izzard can make trans jokes, but Rob Schneider doesn't have an interesting perspective to share. When Ricky Gervais roasted the audience of the 2020 Golden Globes, he did it as a fresh insider.
Who's "foaming at the mouth"? I'm cringing at how lame Rob Schneider is. I don't want to be in the same room as him because I'll get second hand embarrassment.
Outsiders always have the most basic, over spoken take on shit. If you want a non political example, take every comedian who flies into to NJ to do a show in NYC and decides to make a joke about how bad NJ smells. While it true that they did smell something bad on the ride in, but that's hardly representative of NJ.
So I am not allowed to critique a group an organization with humor unless I am apart of it?
You're allowed to do anything you want and I'm allowed to boo you for it.
Agreed! And that makes you lame, boring, and illogical.
Just dont you dare ever make a joke about a religion you dont belong to, that would be super bad.
You're right. Child molestation isn't a laughing matter. Hard mode, figure out which one I'm referring to.
Public schools?
Are you suggesting religion and being trans are the same thing?
Because that means you either think both are inherent or both are a choice. So which is it?
Read back a couple comments...
Ok, this is two comments up:
Said by @Duamerthrax.
Not sure why you wanted me to see that...
I guess you cant read and understand a comment thread. Have a great day!
You said:
I did exactly that. I went back two comments and told you what I read.
So I don't think I'm the one with the understanding problem here.
Is that all you have to add?
I seem to be the only one calling out your silliness, so yes.
You're so close to getting it.
Thank you!
Are you kidding? It's a comedian's job to read the room and tell when their set isn't landing for shit and change tactics on the fly. Maybe he's got his own shit niche but he should learn the basics of tact if he wants gigs.
It's not the audience's fault when a comedian bombs. It's his own damn fool self.
I see a headline, I dont know if it was a real boo, or a "boo" according to the article writer.
Maybe read the article along with the headline.
Oh wow, a person or organization caved to pressure, that is super rare...
Your previous comment:
The article you didn't read along with the thing I just quoted that you apparently also didn't read:
It sounds more like you don't want people to have found him offensive. But they clearly did.
You believe everything you read as long as it agrees with you, dont you? There is a news article(s), so they appologized, has happened literally thousands of times, and then there is a quote from a person claiming a thing, literally has happened millions of times. Show me the clip and that is actually a useful thing, artles are literally useless.
Nope. Here's me admitting I was wrong about something earlier today:
https://lemmy.world/comment/10510117
And there are, I am sure, Rob Schneider routines on YouTube and I doubt he decided to only tell trans and antivax jokes on this occasion, so you're free to find out for yourself. I have a feeling you'll decide they aren't offensive no matter what they are though.
Incidentally, even Republicans find him too offensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMxbyf5I_GE
And again you are just believing what you are told and probably didnt get to the part where he literally broke their agreement...
And in what way do you think he broke their agreement?
Maybe you should listen to the video you linked and find out.
Oh I did, I just want to know exactly what you think happened.
If he was telling a bunch of N-- jokes, would you similarly come to his defense?
Sure, if they were done in a way that was actually funny to a reasonable person. If statements are just insults then they were never jokes, the problem is that you guys dont even allow people to make fun of particular groups, you start clutching your pearls and gasping. You guys went from the cool guy in the 90s to being super lame.
What sort of "reasonable person" would find a white person telling jokes that use that word unless the joke criticized the word funny?
Which "cool guy" comedians in the 90s told such jokes? Can you name them?
Here is an example
Trans jokes were not relevant in the 90s. What I am talking about is how in the 90s the general left side was the side that was funny and would tell any joke and the right was the more religious and pearl clutching, now the sides have reversed and you guys the are lame ones.
Your example is a joke talking about how it's a racist word. Which is not what I asked you to show me. Also, that video was from 8 years ago, not the 90s. So how does that support your point?
That is an example of the joke being funny when teh n word is used. And yes, the aspect of the N word being racist would be central role for when it would be used in a joke. That guy did it in a hilarious way and I defend his use of it to answer your first comment.
This is what I said:
And then you provided me a joke (again, not from the 90s like you were talking about) which criticized the word. So I think you proved my point. Racist jokes aren't funny and neither are other bigoted jokes.
Your sentence is confusing, please rewrite if you are looking for a different answer.
And yes, racist and bigoted jokes are funny unless you are pearl clutcher. Racist against every group not just the ones you think we cant make jokes about (to respond to your next comment).
You seem to think that there are funny jokes a white person can tell using that word that do not involve any suggestion of how that word is racist.
So let's see one.
As I said before, I would guess that nearly all jokes that would involve the n word would be centered around how it is racist.
Really? You think there is no such thing as a white person using that word to tell racist jokes? You really think that?