I'm surprised the judge didn't yank him back on that statement as proof that he lied to the court and give him a longer term
He'd need to be tried again for purgory which he very well might be
I don't think he was under oath at the time he made that statement, so perjury is not a concern.
That’s not how it works. His statement out of court can be used as evidence that his statements in court were false (perjury).
Probably not. You're allowed to lie in "general" speech (not a legal term). If he had made one statement under oath, and a mutually exclusive statement, also under oath, then one of those statements would be perjury.
So he didn't commit pierogi
Was he pragante?
Unless he was in Prague.
I love Perogies!
What if he literally vomited on them? He purged all over the court
But an outburst in court can be considered contempt. The judge could have marched him back in for that one but it probably would have been seen as petty.
Lol purgatory might be in his future anyway
I read that as purgatory at first and got a little confused
I doubt it’d be worth it to pursue. He could always argue he was changed at the time he said it but in between then and now, he changed his mind back.
They need the max sentence, every time. None of them are sorry; they're just telling the judge what they think he wants to hear. They might as well not be sorry making license plates for a decade.
they're sorry they failed. Sorry they got caught, and sorry they're being held accountable.
what they're not sorry about is trying to fucking overthrow the lawful government of this country. So yeah.
"I've learned my lesson, judge."
"It's a trick. Get an axe."
The judge can call a hearing based on his actions, and re-sentence him. It's already happened to at least one of these chucklefucks
Do you have a source for this? Not that I don't trust you, I just want to laugh at these chucklefucks.
Hopefully the prosecution saves this video and presents it at this douchebag's first, second, nth, parole hearing.
Federal, so he has to serve 1/3 of his sentence to get to his first parole consideration. So, a little over three years.
No need. The judge will take this personally, and call another hearing to re-sentence him. This has already happened to at least one of these chucklefucks
Oh, really? Somehow I missed that. That's very encouraging.
I feel like immediately showing that you lied to the judge should allow for revising your sentence.
ETA: It amuses me to think about this chud feeling like a badass with his act of defiance in the court room. Later, he has the "oh shit," realization when he arrives at his cell.
I hope this stunt is used to deny him parole every time he asks.
Dude is resting easy thinking that he'll be pardoned on Jan 21, 2025. That's the only reality that has any hope for him.
Lol you think Trump is going to remember these people?
Definitely not. He only remembers people who have some sort of leverage on him, like Roger Stone and Michael Flynn.
Trump doesn't even remember people he actually worked with.
If Trump wins, pardoning these people will be his first order of business. That signals to his supporters that he wants them to do it again but in greater numbers to keep him in power indefinitely.
I mean, it would make sense, but his actions so far really don't lead to this conclusion
Of course he’s a changed man. Before he was free, now he’s going to prison. I hope all these Proud Boys are similarly changed!
It's a whole lifestyle makeover! 😆
TRUMP WON
He sure did, seeing as you and yours get your sorry asses carted off to prison while he gets to play dumb in court.
Could you fucking imagine going to prison for a decade because of that orange sack of shit? Treating politics as a religion is a complete mystery to me. Kinda like religion itself, but that's another rathole.
No I can't but they can.. they have been trained to fall down for him the way they would for ' jesus'.. it's actually very scary.. I grew up Christian.. one thing they taught us, was to be prepared to be imprisoned or killed of Jesus, for our faith... But to wear it like a badge for the reward in heaven... They took the teaching and applied it to trump, their antichrist and that why you see people so desperately clinging to him.. they literally do think he is a Jesus of sorts, and they are more than willing to die for him and got to prison... If given the chance they will burn the whole.world down for dominance and obedience... very scary things..
It's crazy to me that, if you believed in that kind of thing, Trump being the antichrist seems obvious.
Since I was sadly raised in it and I know how they think, I think it was rather easy for them to fall for it, because they are desperate for some physical /verbal guidance after not hearing God talk to them like he did to Moses in their heads... I am glad I am not a Christian now, but being a naive kid growing up in faith cause my family forced me,, wasn't my fault.. I just know how they think because of it...
What I find the most insane part of this, is that the bible DID say that it's own followers of Christ would turn away for an antichrist.. even Jesus told them they would.. many 'christian' people claimed to never let that happen. That they would never commit blasphemy.. that they love Jesus too much. WELL we ALL watched these lies fall apart on real time and then we all saw them do what they said they would never do, praise a false god.. (false by their own teachings and claims)
The current stance of the GOP Christians today actually has nothing to do with what the Bible really said, and all the more to do with the mental illness and unchecked bafooneray these people are doing in my opinion
So this smoothbrain has his ‘I am Spartacus’ moment, his 2.5 minutes of fame. As the endorphins wear off and he comes to terms to the fact that he ain’t seeing outside past the ‘yard’ for the next decade. Assuming the genpop doesn’t try to do him for shit and giggles
He's going to be with his people. Racist make up a lot of the prison population.
He'll be a member of the Aryan brotherhood in no time.
He’s celebrating. He knew he was going to prison, he just didn’t know for how long. The DOJ recommended 20 years and he only got 10, which means he’ll be out in 7.5 (with good behavior and time served).
Pardoned in 17 months.
Trump won't pardon failures.
I prefer insurrectionists who aren't captured.
Was this the dumbass that was crying about his daughter being all that mattered to him now?
No, that was Joe Biggs who got 17 years
Oh, they'll do him in the shitter and giggle about it for sure.
Ah, rape jokes. Stay classy Lemmy.
Haha don't drop the soap haha, whoopsies butterfingers more like buttblasted fingers amirite haha cuz he's in prison haha rape happens in prison guys
I'm sure that won't come up at parole hearings. No sirree
There is no federal parole. He has to serve up to 85% of his sentence too!
Not 100%? That kind of sounds like parole.
It’s technically different
(which is the best kind of different)
Reminds me of when the Vice Pres. of the confederacy started lying about how the war wasn't about slavery after he got locked up lol
"It was about state's rights!"
"State's right to have what?"
"... slaves."
They should really teach this in the history books.
They should find a way to double his sentence.
I'm sure the parole board will take note.
They very well might do that. It's happened before with another Jan 6'er even. The judge basically schedules another hearing where they go over his claims of innocence based on his subsequent actions and re-sentences him.
Next year is gonna get real ugly, and I think it will all depend on who wins the Republican nomination.
If Trump gets it, which is very likely, unless the Republican Party puts a moratorium on allowing convicted felons to represent their party in the presidential race, then Biden has a chance of winning re-election, since you'd hope that a good portion of the public would want to keep an insurrectionist out.
DeSantis or Ramaswamy getting the nomination and effectively distancing themselves from Trump would mean Biden is in big trouble, unless Trump makes the bold move of running as an independent candidate and driving his most loyal supporters away from the Republican vote. And I think given how the Republican Party nearly got away with overthrowing the state and placing themselves in charge, America could be very close to a civil war or falling into a totalitarian dictatorship.
First of all I think your assessment of desantis or ramaswamy is way off if they get the nod trump will absolutely run as a third party candidate BECAUSE HE HAS TO TO STAY OUT OF PRISON. There is no other option. Either trump wins the GOP nom or he splits the ticket and very likely the party.
They say Republicans fall in line but trump may just be the exception to that rule. His base is so devoted they hate anyone who even tries to be liked him as long as he's out there.
Trump will never fall in line. That's why he ran R for his second and third run at the presidency
From what I saw from the debate, Chris Christie is the dangerous one.
He's not running for POTUS in 2024, but 2028. He was merely trying to desensitize the smoothbrains to the sight of someone daring to criticize Dear Leader, to pave the way for later.
Ramaswamy has a 0% chance of getting the nomination. He's an Indian Hindu, he will never be the face of the GOP. I think he's shooting to be Trump's VP, that's where he's most dangerous. He's very smart, smart enough to play suck-up to Trump, but pull Trump's strings behind the scenes.
DeSantis is a really long shot. He has a surge in popularity when it looked like he could deliver wins, but his war on Disney is failing badly and he has no charisma on stage, unlike Ramaswamy or Trump.
Most likely outcome of the GOP primary is a Trump/Ramaswamy ticket. Trump is really just a figurehead for the trump cult to rally around, publicly using Ramaswamy to refute claims of racism or white nationalism, they'll double down hard on claims that Democrats cheated on 2020, and Ramaswamy will wield much of the actual power behind the curtain.
He’s very smart, smart enough to play suck-up to Trump, but pull Trump’s strings behind the scenes.
But Trump doesn't hire people smarter than himself.
Trump can only hire people smarter than himself because he's almost always the dumbest person in the room.
Ramaswamy has a 0% chance of getting the nomination. He’s an Indian Hindu, he will never be the face of the GOP. I think he’s shooting to be Trump’s VP, that’s where he’s most dangerous. He’s very smart, smart enough to play suck-up to Trump, but pull Trump’s strings behind the scenes.
This paragraph gives off a 'Games of Thrones' vibe.
Ramaswamy is legitimately a crazy person. Like full on fucking loony tunes. He sounds articulate to stupid people, but I'm not sure I'd call him smart.
I think they could be fucked either way if Trump gets nominated or not.
Ramaswamy isn't going to win, a large percentage of the right won't turn out for him because of his skin color.
And what scenario can someone like DeSantis win the primary? If the GOP disqualifies Trump, the MAGA voters don't turn out for any Republican. And if the GOP doesn't dsiqualify Trump, the only way Desantis can win the primary is if a significant chunk of the MAGA base realizes they were lied to. And Republicans that went along with Trump (like Desantis) will earn a lot of scorn from these people that realized they were being lied to. Only way Destanit wins the primary is if the MAGAs are so disgusted with the political process entirely they drop out and stop voting. But if they stop voting, how will any GOP candidate win a general?
Sure anything can happen, but right now I can't see a path for any GOP candidate to win the general election except for the ones like Chris Christie that have come out hard against Trump. And that's such an extreme longshot it's not worth worrying about much.
If I'm being generous, maybe that was his last ditch attempt to get Trump to give him a pardon. Of course that's not going to play well with the parole board down the line, so probably not a smart play. Or he's just a fucking moron. Yeah, probably that.
When you hear hoofbeats, think stupid horses.
just goes to show that you can never trust a trump supporter about anything ever again
Trump definitely did not win. He's not sending his best.
No no, this is his best.
Think of Trump every time you need to go to your happy place to block out the horrors of prison.
If you're going to be given a shower-room colonoscopy, you might as well do it from the comfort of your imagination, you know?
I can't help but think about this from time to time: it is a series of curses on humanity that instead of being some miserable failure as a businessman who would only end up conning a few dozen people before committing suicide due to awareness of the scum that they are, he somehow instead became a celebrity and then a cult leader turned fucking president.
The absolute shittiest timeline.
The absolute shittiest timeline.
I know, right? We need to find a portal to those alternate realities we keep hearing about because I'm reality concerned about this one's future.
He did not claim he changed for the better...
@FlyingSquid I'm reiminded of Julius Streicher the publisher and editor of Der Sturmer the virulently anti-semetic pro NAZI paper doing a "Heil Hitler" right before they hanged him. #Trump#TrumpTrial@GOP#Cult
Some people never learn.
Thankfully, death is a lesson that doesn't require willing participation to stick.
"So that was a fucking lie."
It's the strategic thing to do. Tell the court what they want to hear in order to improve your chances of a reduced sentence. I would imagine that the judge has decided the sentence before they hear the final plea but it can't hurt to try some last ditch emotional manipulation.
Wow, that contrition lasted all of 90 seconds.
Pezzola sounds weirdly close to provençal pezoul (adapted to petzouille in french), which means lice, or figuratively boor, bumpkin.
I thought this was quite fitting
Tell me it was WWGOWGA.
WWGOWGA
Whenever We Go Outside We Get Arrested
Dude, you are going to prison. You don't want to be associated with MAGA when going to prison. Best case scenario you will spend the whole time in solitary. Because those hardened criminals want nothing more than to show you the real world.
tell me you don't know anything about the aryan brotherhood without, you know, like, telling me
I'm surprised the judge didn't yank him back on that statement as proof that he lied to the court and give him a longer term
He'd need to be tried again for purgory which he very well might be
I don't think he was under oath at the time he made that statement, so perjury is not a concern.
That’s not how it works. His statement out of court can be used as evidence that his statements in court were false (perjury).
Probably not. You're allowed to lie in "general" speech (not a legal term). If he had made one statement under oath, and a mutually exclusive statement, also under oath, then one of those statements would be perjury.
So he didn't commit pierogi
Was he pragante?
Unless he was in Prague.
I love Perogies!
What if he literally vomited on them? He purged all over the court
But an outburst in court can be considered contempt. The judge could have marched him back in for that one but it probably would have been seen as petty.
Lol purgatory might be in his future anyway
I read that as purgatory at first and got a little confused
I doubt it’d be worth it to pursue. He could always argue he was changed at the time he said it but in between then and now, he changed his mind back.
They need the max sentence, every time. None of them are sorry; they're just telling the judge what they think he wants to hear. They might as well not be sorry making license plates for a decade.
they're sorry they failed. Sorry they got caught, and sorry they're being held accountable.
what they're not sorry about is trying to fucking overthrow the lawful government of this country. So yeah.
"I've learned my lesson, judge."
"It's a trick. Get an axe."
The judge can call a hearing based on his actions, and re-sentence him. It's already happened to at least one of these chucklefucks
Do you have a source for this? Not that I don't trust you, I just want to laugh at these chucklefucks.
Hopefully the prosecution saves this video and presents it at this douchebag's first, second, nth, parole hearing.
Federal, so he has to serve 1/3 of his sentence to get to his first parole consideration. So, a little over three years.
No need. The judge will take this personally, and call another hearing to re-sentence him. This has already happened to at least one of these chucklefucks
Oh, really? Somehow I missed that. That's very encouraging.
I feel like immediately showing that you lied to the judge should allow for revising your sentence.
ETA: It amuses me to think about this chud feeling like a badass with his act of defiance in the court room. Later, he has the "oh shit," realization when he arrives at his cell.
I hope this stunt is used to deny him parole every time he asks.
Dude is resting easy thinking that he'll be pardoned on Jan 21, 2025. That's the only reality that has any hope for him.
Lol you think Trump is going to remember these people?
Definitely not. He only remembers people who have some sort of leverage on him, like Roger Stone and Michael Flynn.
Trump doesn't even remember people he actually worked with.
If Trump wins, pardoning these people will be his first order of business. That signals to his supporters that he wants them to do it again but in greater numbers to keep him in power indefinitely.
I mean, it would make sense, but his actions so far really don't lead to this conclusion
Of course he’s a changed man. Before he was free, now he’s going to prison. I hope all these Proud Boys are similarly changed!
It's a whole lifestyle makeover! 😆
He sure did, seeing as you and yours get your sorry asses carted off to prison while he gets to play dumb in court.
Could you fucking imagine going to prison for a decade because of that orange sack of shit? Treating politics as a religion is a complete mystery to me. Kinda like religion itself, but that's another rathole.
No I can't but they can.. they have been trained to fall down for him the way they would for ' jesus'.. it's actually very scary.. I grew up Christian.. one thing they taught us, was to be prepared to be imprisoned or killed of Jesus, for our faith... But to wear it like a badge for the reward in heaven... They took the teaching and applied it to trump, their antichrist and that why you see people so desperately clinging to him.. they literally do think he is a Jesus of sorts, and they are more than willing to die for him and got to prison... If given the chance they will burn the whole.world down for dominance and obedience... very scary things..
It's crazy to me that, if you believed in that kind of thing, Trump being the antichrist seems obvious.
Since I was sadly raised in it and I know how they think, I think it was rather easy for them to fall for it, because they are desperate for some physical /verbal guidance after not hearing God talk to them like he did to Moses in their heads... I am glad I am not a Christian now, but being a naive kid growing up in faith cause my family forced me,, wasn't my fault.. I just know how they think because of it...
What I find the most insane part of this, is that the bible DID say that it's own followers of Christ would turn away for an antichrist.. even Jesus told them they would.. many 'christian' people claimed to never let that happen. That they would never commit blasphemy.. that they love Jesus too much. WELL we ALL watched these lies fall apart on real time and then we all saw them do what they said they would never do, praise a false god.. (false by their own teachings and claims)
The current stance of the GOP Christians today actually has nothing to do with what the Bible really said, and all the more to do with the mental illness and unchecked bafooneray these people are doing in my opinion
So this smoothbrain has his ‘I am Spartacus’ moment, his 2.5 minutes of fame. As the endorphins wear off and he comes to terms to the fact that he ain’t seeing outside past the ‘yard’ for the next decade. Assuming the genpop doesn’t try to do him for shit and giggles
He's going to be with his people. Racist make up a lot of the prison population.
He'll be a member of the Aryan brotherhood in no time.
He’s celebrating. He knew he was going to prison, he just didn’t know for how long. The DOJ recommended 20 years and he only got 10, which means he’ll be out in 7.5 (with good behavior and time served).
Pardoned in 17 months.
Trump won't pardon failures.
I prefer insurrectionists who aren't captured.
Was this the dumbass that was crying about his daughter being all that mattered to him now?
No, that was Joe Biggs who got 17 years
Oh, they'll do him in the shitter and giggle about it for sure.
Ah, rape jokes. Stay classy Lemmy.
Haha don't drop the soap haha, whoopsies butterfingers more like buttblasted fingers amirite haha cuz he's in prison haha rape happens in prison guys
Laugh
I hope so, unless he's into that sort of thing.
Trump cultists are dead-enders. No way out.
It's a death cult
I'm sure that won't come up at parole hearings. No sirree
There is no federal parole. He has to serve up to 85% of his sentence too!
Not 100%? That kind of sounds like parole.
It’s technically different
(which is the best kind of different)
Reminds me of when the Vice Pres. of the confederacy started lying about how the war wasn't about slavery after he got locked up lol
"It was about state's rights!"
"State's right to have what?"
"... slaves."
They should really teach this in the history books.
They should find a way to double his sentence.
I'm sure the parole board will take note.
They very well might do that. It's happened before with another Jan 6'er even. The judge basically schedules another hearing where they go over his claims of innocence based on his subsequent actions and re-sentences him.
Surely that adds perjury to his crimes at least.
Next year is gonna get real ugly, and I think it will all depend on who wins the Republican nomination.
If Trump gets it, which is very likely, unless the Republican Party puts a moratorium on allowing convicted felons to represent their party in the presidential race, then Biden has a chance of winning re-election, since you'd hope that a good portion of the public would want to keep an insurrectionist out.
DeSantis or Ramaswamy getting the nomination and effectively distancing themselves from Trump would mean Biden is in big trouble, unless Trump makes the bold move of running as an independent candidate and driving his most loyal supporters away from the Republican vote. And I think given how the Republican Party nearly got away with overthrowing the state and placing themselves in charge, America could be very close to a civil war or falling into a totalitarian dictatorship.
First of all I think your assessment of desantis or ramaswamy is way off if they get the nod trump will absolutely run as a third party candidate BECAUSE HE HAS TO TO STAY OUT OF PRISON. There is no other option. Either trump wins the GOP nom or he splits the ticket and very likely the party.
They say Republicans fall in line but trump may just be the exception to that rule. His base is so devoted they hate anyone who even tries to be liked him as long as he's out there.
Trump will never fall in line. That's why he ran R for his second and third run at the presidency
From what I saw from the debate, Chris Christie is the dangerous one.
He's not running for POTUS in 2024, but 2028. He was merely trying to desensitize the smoothbrains to the sight of someone daring to criticize Dear Leader, to pave the way for later.
Ramaswamy has a 0% chance of getting the nomination. He's an Indian Hindu, he will never be the face of the GOP. I think he's shooting to be Trump's VP, that's where he's most dangerous. He's very smart, smart enough to play suck-up to Trump, but pull Trump's strings behind the scenes.
DeSantis is a really long shot. He has a surge in popularity when it looked like he could deliver wins, but his war on Disney is failing badly and he has no charisma on stage, unlike Ramaswamy or Trump.
Most likely outcome of the GOP primary is a Trump/Ramaswamy ticket. Trump is really just a figurehead for the trump cult to rally around, publicly using Ramaswamy to refute claims of racism or white nationalism, they'll double down hard on claims that Democrats cheated on 2020, and Ramaswamy will wield much of the actual power behind the curtain.
But Trump doesn't hire people smarter than himself.
Trump can only hire people smarter than himself because he's almost always the dumbest person in the room.
This paragraph gives off a 'Games of Thrones' vibe.
Ramaswamy is legitimately a crazy person. Like full on fucking loony tunes. He sounds articulate to stupid people, but I'm not sure I'd call him smart.
Only ~15% of Republicans are in favor of Desantis. ~6 for Ramaswamy who I've never actually heard of until now lol
I think they could be fucked either way if Trump gets nominated or not.
Ramaswamy isn't going to win, a large percentage of the right won't turn out for him because of his skin color.
And what scenario can someone like DeSantis win the primary? If the GOP disqualifies Trump, the MAGA voters don't turn out for any Republican. And if the GOP doesn't dsiqualify Trump, the only way Desantis can win the primary is if a significant chunk of the MAGA base realizes they were lied to. And Republicans that went along with Trump (like Desantis) will earn a lot of scorn from these people that realized they were being lied to. Only way Destanit wins the primary is if the MAGAs are so disgusted with the political process entirely they drop out and stop voting. But if they stop voting, how will any GOP candidate win a general?
Sure anything can happen, but right now I can't see a path for any GOP candidate to win the general election except for the ones like Chris Christie that have come out hard against Trump. And that's such an extreme longshot it's not worth worrying about much.
If I'm being generous, maybe that was his last ditch attempt to get Trump to give him a pardon. Of course that's not going to play well with the parole board down the line, so probably not a smart play. Or he's just a fucking moron. Yeah, probably that.
When you hear hoofbeats, think stupid horses.
just goes to show that you can never trust a trump supporter about anything ever again
Trump definitely did not win. He's not sending his best.
No no, this is his best.
Think of Trump every time you need to go to your happy place to block out the horrors of prison.
If you're going to be given a shower-room colonoscopy, you might as well do it from the comfort of your imagination, you know?
I can't help but think about this from time to time: it is a series of curses on humanity that instead of being some miserable failure as a businessman who would only end up conning a few dozen people before committing suicide due to awareness of the scum that they are, he somehow instead became a celebrity and then a cult leader turned fucking president.
The absolute shittiest timeline.
I know, right? We need to find a portal to those alternate realities we keep hearing about because I'm reality concerned about this one's future.
He did not claim he changed for the better...
@FlyingSquid I'm reiminded of Julius Streicher the publisher and editor of Der Sturmer the virulently anti-semetic pro NAZI paper doing a "Heil Hitler" right before they hanged him. #Trump #TrumpTrial @GOP #Cult
Some people never learn.
Thankfully, death is a lesson that doesn't require willing participation to stick.
"So that was a fucking lie."
It's the strategic thing to do. Tell the court what they want to hear in order to improve your chances of a reduced sentence. I would imagine that the judge has decided the sentence before they hear the final plea but it can't hurt to try some last ditch emotional manipulation.
Wow, that contrition lasted all of 90 seconds.
Pezzola sounds weirdly close to provençal pezoul (adapted to petzouille in french), which means lice, or figuratively boor, bumpkin.
I thought this was quite fitting
Tell me it was WWGOWGA.
Whenever We Go Outside We Get Arrested
Dude, you are going to prison. You don't want to be associated with MAGA when going to prison. Best case scenario you will spend the whole time in solitary. Because those hardened criminals want nothing more than to show you the real world.
tell me you don't know anything about the aryan brotherhood without, you know, like, telling me
What makes you think that? I thought prison was a breeding ground for Nazis.