Are we committed to Lemmy? or would we move if something better comes along?

I'm committed to ActivityPub. I don't really care if the specific server backend ends up being lemmy, kbin, or something new.

A lot of people switched to lemmy recently, so the development focus is on scaling for now. It'll probably take a while until that's sorted out properly and the devs can focus on accessibility.

I think lemmy is a good place for this community because we don't need to worry about big platforms overmoderating.

Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.

But yes, it's the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we'll see what the future brings ;)

No apollo app no reddit. I agree the UI/UX is problematic but the native reddit ad filled app is way worse. Lemmy both has lots of room to still improve the experience but its build well enough already to actually function and people to be here.

Its also open source, decentralized, possible to self host. Aka owned by the people rather then corpos. All those things for the new homepage of the internet? I can only get so errect.

I am committed to federated services from here on out. I am personally really liking lemmy... There are some minor annoyances but nothing major. The mobile browsing experiences makes me pretty cozy. With the dark theme it's not too far from rif. Apps and plugins are coming that will make it that next special thing. Like I couldn't imagine aliensite without old and res. It's coming... I'm loving it.

Come on, give it some time. It's coming a long way, and devs are working their ass off to deliver some quality updates.

Also, there are a dozen apps in the works for iOS and Android that are to be released soon, if that's not already the case. So you should have more choice to pick a better experience browsing lemmy in the coming days.

I like to remember how ugly and difficult it was to adjust to Reddit after moving from Digg's slick 2.0 interface. I think Lemmy will face more growing pains but will be the best solution in the end.

Reddit has literally never had a good UI/UX. It was worth it because it was the best alternative at the time.

That said, my requirements for a reddit alternative would have to be decentralized and open source. I just couldn't get into another situation like this one and I won't support it.

I am more than willing to wait for Lemmy to grow to see where it heads since it's only been a thing since 2019.

Despite it having its fair share of problems, I am more than willing to put up with this for now since we're still scratching the surface on the potential of a decentralized social media becoming a little more mainstream.

I'm obviously very committed. But I understand the frustration. However be a bit patient, the interest in the Software is just beggining and it has a completely open API. Great frontends will be developed very shortly

I'm not necessarily committed to Lemmy, but I am fairly committed to a fediverse Reddit-like app. And Lemmy is the one I've liked the most. The nice thing is, if something comes along that you prefer, you could switch to that and we'd still be able to interact.

I've been a redditor for more than 16 years. Due the the recent events, I've been through my comments/submission history, noticing how much more active I was in the beginning. For the past, I don't know, 5 or more years, I've been just lurking less and less, to the point that when it came to delete my content and account, I didn't even have any regrets. Just did it, and that was it.

Now comes the fediverse. Here I am, commenting again, actively checking what's happening here with a renewed enthusiasm. So yes, I'm excited for it being FOSS, federated, decentralized. By the people, for the people. Yay!

A piracy forum needs to be decentralised and based on FOSS software to be able to have quality content, we are not advertisement friendly lol.

Lemmy is the best option.

If not Lemmy then maybe a discourse forum but that would be even worse for mobile users.

Lemmy will only get better from now on, but tbh I prefer its UI over other alternatives official app.

I'm committed to open source (or at the very least indie dev) more than to a single platform.

I will switch if something better comes along that is decentralized.

The profit motive poisons everything and turns it to shit. I won't join a social again if it can be purchased to turn me into another metric on a spreadsheet for someone to sell.

I'd think that we're here for the quality of our experience and not for loyalty to a specific platform. Lemmy has some great advantages, especially for those of us fresh from Reddit who are sick and tired of corporate shennanigans and enshitification.

There's lemmy politics which seems about disagreements that may or may not lead to defederating. But this isn't for me a dealbreaker, and Reddit corporate made it super clear that it was on the side of the conservatives even if it found their hate speech brand-unsafe. My kind were not liked, and we could expect spittle in our drinks now and again.

So what would woo me away from Lemmy? Only if I found subs of my interests that I couldn't find here, and then I'd haunt both platforms.

IMO, the solution is not to switch to something better, but to communicate to the developers on how to make the UI/UX better

We're just getting started. Sync for Lemmy and Memmy's (heavily inspired by Apollo) release in a few weeks will go a long way for accessibility, and will likely already offer better UX than reddit.

No doubt contributors in the GitHub will add similar UX features as those fantastic apps once they're out.

Lemmy? Not specifically committed to Lemmy forever, but I very much see myself using it as my top Social Media 2-3 years from now.

I’m really invested that Lemmy (and the Fediverse in general) is only going to get more awesome.

I’m just the past few weeks we’ve seen growth in not only the infrastructure, apps, and features of Lemmy, but there’s really great conversations happening around how the community is growing and possible threats to the system from big corps.

I think the Fediverse is a great place and is a great future of “Social Media”.

Even if no one else joins Fedi, I think we have enough entertaining content and news to sustain me for a long time. More people will join, though. Things will keep getting better, but it will take time.

Fuck Reddit, Fuck Twitter, Fuck FAANG. I hope distributed is the future.

I really like the idea. There one major issue that I see currently, and that is discoverability. It takes some real effort and time to explore things outside of your own instance. I think the federation of pre-federation content will be important for discoverability, since the foundation of a community is in it's ranking of posts, which takes time and interaction. Right now, votes, comments, and most posts pre-federation on another instance are just not reachable.

I believe this problem can be solved, and there are a lot of motivated developers here, so I'm all in on lemmy.

if its not lemmy it should at least be ActivityPub compliant so users can make the decision how to follow, participate

I am pretty committed. I even volunteered to help with devops stuff with my country's instance to make it a better experience for the local community. I actually wished more communities move here.

Personally I will try to be active in contributing to ideas for lemmy improvement. If you are having a problem in the UI/UX part of lemmy. Then is is a good idea to let your voice be heard and suggest some QOL improvements. That way the devs have more options to look at when considering some UI/UX alterations.

What alternatives?

Maybe ask this question again if there actually is something better. But i'd agree. The UI should be accessible for people with disability. But maybe we need to work on lemmy and make that possible instead of waiting for something else to come along.

I‘m committed to decentralized social media, so for now that’s this and kbin yeah.

I hope though that eventually a better UI in some app can help with your disability, being physically ill doesn‘t sound like a good time at all.

I'd assume people move when something better comes around.
But "better, more functional" is a relative term. Not sure that many here would be willing to forgo federation, and thus the independence from corporations, which especially don't like piracy.

Btw, have you specifically told people what about the UI/UX you find problematic, so that it could be improved?
And has kbin the same issue for you (as it federates as well, you can travel this community through kbin just fine)

I'm really into the Fediverse, so it would have to be another Fediverse software.

The nice thing about the fediverse is that if you find something else federated that you like, then you can just use it. You move to the new instance running the software you actually like, and resubscribe to the communities you like on the original instances.

There's already kbin as an alternative (the largest instance of that is at https://kbin.social/), I believe you can subscribe to lemmy and kbin communities using friendica, and I can already see a lot of other options coming down the pipe.

OTOH, I've been here for years. I chose to go all-in on the fediverse a couple years ago.

With the number of new apps coming out, hopefully somebody will come up with one that you can use without feeling physically ill. There's going to be a lot of options in a few weeks.

Have you considered writing up what exactly is problematic about the UI? Maybe it's something that can be resolved

Why WOULDN'T we move off if something better came along?

I'm committed to the fediverse, in some ways I like Kbin more though, and of course I would be perfectly happy to find something better suited

Honestly though the fediverse is exciting

Been here for a few years now. It's the same as always. Use a site til it turns evil/bad, then move on, someone else will take its place.

I love the idea of lemmy tho. and so far so good. But dont be married or make it personal if something turns bad online.

I'm hoping kbin will be more popular and improve at it gains users. I like the microblogging feature, because it 'tiers' the content we'd share, and makes different users/communities easier to discover.

But it's a very new platform, so it will be a while before it sees fruition; it also has almost all users on a single instance kbin.social; so other instances lack content (it doesn't federate as cleanly as Lemmy) and makes users over-reliant on the admins of that instance, undermining the point of federation.

Unfortunately few platforms design with accessibility in mind; they consider it a 'nice to have', not a 'need to have'. As platforms get bigger they'll gain the interest of coders that consider accessibility to be as much a 'need to have' as the rest of the front-end. After all, Reddit itself was never accessible - 3rd party devs made it so, and they will again.

Connect for lemmy is rad, honestly just need to convert more people and get the apple apps out of beta

I think being commited no-matter-what to any product is unhealthy. Lemmy looks great so far, despite still being early in development. But there's also kbin and other alternatives that might improve significantly in the future - if they do, I see no reason to not change the platform.

I think being open to change is good. Right now, I'm committed to lemmy. There are a few wrinkles here and there, so I'm hoping those things get sorted out.

However, if it turns to shit or a much better one comes along, then I'll definitely consider moving. Individually that's easy. For a community, though, it might be challenging.

Lemmy has certainly already won me over reddit. Going back to centralized social media is something I will actively avoid if at all possible.

However I believe nostr is a theoretically better protocol than activitypub. Having your account/identity tied so strongly to a particular instance is undesirable. As soon as there is a reddit-like (or even forum-like) client for nostr which is relatively active/polished, I will switch. Nip 172 can't come soon enough.

In addition to being less popular / newer than activitypub, nostr is also full of bitcoin[^1] bros and twitter refugees (not my crowd). But frankly I think complaints about that are like the complaints that lemmy is a place for tankies a couple years ago when people's only exposure was to a (much smaller than today) lemmy.ml.

[^1]: monero support would be nice though...

Maybe Lemmy won't be the right fit in the longer run, although development seems pretty good currently.

Whats more important to me is, how the adoption of ActivityPub evolves and the Fediverse developes in the long run.

There is way too little nsfw content on here to make this a permanent replacement

It's under active, heavy development and the devs seem to be taking merge requests for accessibility issues.

I like Lemmy. Version 0.18.0 fixed some annoying bugs I had so I'm quite happy about that, and newer versions will fix even more bugs.

I still want to be able to click on a message to mark it as read without having to click specifically the checkmark.

As long as this "next best thing" retains federation with Activity Pub, I might migrate. Or not. I'm already feeling like an old, change resistant curmudgeon.

As someone who's been sold to Elixir programming, I just want more instances running with Pleroma or some fork (https://github.com/uiri/pleroma), as that already deals very well with large numbers of users with low resource usage, and scales easily.

I love it. It’s missing a lot of the things I disliked about the other place which is fantastic. It’s reasonably barebones by comparison and I am totally fine with it.

The only issue I have is some of my interests aren’t represented here (or I haven’t found them yet) and that’s something that will come with time or me actually putting in a bit of effort to create. Not the platform’s fault.

Yeah I love lemmy too. First time I feel the envy to comment instead of just lurking.

I'm interested to know specifically what about the UI/UX makes you physically ill? Even as someone without a physical disability I can see issues, but would love to hear more about your perspecive.

To me it’s already something that someone has actually moved to Lemmy. As happened with Twitter, the thing lasted a few weeks and almost everyone went back from Mastodon. I have no faith in redditors, this is probably just a phase

Definitely sticking to lemmy.the fact that I don’t need an “app” or is controlled by some kinda App Store is a win for me.

Im 100% all in on lemmy and its replaced reddit in its entirety for me and works well using the lemmy app. I also have enough content here to satisfy me so will not be moving unless this stops.

This may be a silly reason, but I'm unable to easily view communities from other federated instances. I wonder if it's just NSFW content? A lot of the more mature content is basically unavailable (I'm registered to sopuli.xyz), which is essentially any WTF or other content with warnings. I may be doing this wrong but I don't like having my content throttled, even unintentionally.

Not committed, I like Lemmy so far and have no reason to go back to Reddit (I miss mexican news and memes [not the propaganda that the mods from the main sub enabled]), but if something better arises I could easily move over because why not?

Staying for sure!

I'm intrigued by the idea of nomadic communities jumping from platform to platform. Maybe that will become necessary. Each instance might be less stable than the mega-sites we're used to.

My server is still on 0.17.4 (I think due to major security issues with 0.18.0) and the experience is AWEFUL. I also do not want an app but a web interface. Wefwef seam promising.

Also Lemmy needs a lot more content. I hope it will come but I fear the future will be a lot more fragmented. Some of my subreddits moved to their own Discourse instances which are not federated unfortunately. Having to check 10 forums is really annoying.

Personally I am liking squabbles.io way more and spend most of my "reddit replacement time" there. The UX of Lemmy is just woefully short of what I want.

The only permanent platform on the internet is usenet.

Hopefully Lemmy matures into something beautiful, but if not, usenet will always be there!

What is great about Lemmy is that anyone could sit down right now and improve the UI/UX.

I think the end-goal should be that it doesn't matter. Choosing a social media app like reddit, lemmy, twitter, mastodon etc shouldn't matter any more than choosing a web browser. All the content should still be there regardless of which platform a user chooses to use to experience it.

I'm thinking of moving to kbin, partly because of all the "defederation" talk on my instance, but also because kbin has a microblog and I like their interface more.

That being said, lemmy is awesome and will keep improving.

As someone with a disability, the UI/UX is problematic and makes me physically ill after using it for a short period of time.

Rest assured many developers are working on more accessible mobile apps. I'm not too sure about the web version, though.

Do you mean just Lemmy or the fediverse as a whole? Cause I hear some complaints about the ethics of the Lemmy creators and some people are switching to kbin which is still in the fediverse. So I can see people jumping ship to kbin but I already made my Lemmy account and don't really care to switch at the moment. I'm not entirely sure what the situation with Lemmy creators is anyways

Lemmy know if something better comes along

I am not completely sold on it personally but I'm willing to give it the old college try. I'm trying to find similar communities and subscribe to them.

Sorry to hear about your accessibility issues. Have you tried any of the apps that have cropped up for testing? Some seem to have very active devs and would probably be happy to listen to how they could help your troubles.

OP check out wefwef.app. It’s basically Apollo for Lemmy.

Now it feels just like Reddit except with longer load times.

I kind of feel like it's in the nature of all things piracy-related to be ready to pick up and relocate on short notice whenever necessary. Things tends to get shut down, taken over or enshitified all the time, and the only solution is to just move the tent down the road.

Honestly i would go back to reddit if the hole drama ends. Its not my intension to be rude by any means but I honestly dont care about the politics, im here to pirate free software

It fills a slightly different niche but there is also aether. I think Lemmy and Aether complement each other. Lemmy federates with other applications but Aether is ephemeral and takes advantage of P2P topology and and cryptography.

It's not about what it is today but what it can be. I agree that there are a bunch of problems, but the future does look bright.

Not a mod so you might not care about my opinion but...

I don't hate lemmy and hope it will continue to improve but at the same time, I still feel the UI is a bit minimal and lacking on a lot of features right now (TBF probably some of it is me getting used to it still). Some of this works in its favor tho.. like if I created a new account on reddit, I'd have to deal with all the karma bs again before I could even post to most subs. Here, this is my first post on this instance, and no problems AFAICT... which is really fucking awesome IMO. Other things, like how to show all communities sorted by # of subscribers or how I search for a specific phrase in a specific community (like "rootless docker" + "qbittorrent" in c/Piracy for instance), I am still a bit unclear if there is even a way to do that.

I don't see anything overtaking lemmy immediately. kbin is the next closest one I can think of that is open-source + federated and not controlled by a company and I think it is even less smooth than lemmy right now. There's mastodon but IMO that is more twitter alternative than reddit alternative.

But I guess if something came along that checked all the right boxes (foss, federated, markdown, long-form comments, more features, etc) then I would at least be open to considering it.

yes, focused on Lemmy for now, its the best alternative

it will get updated and developed overtime, even if the devs went full political someone would just fork the project and we would still federate anyways, we have nothing to lose if we commit

Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.

But yes, it's the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we'll see what the future brings ;)

The apps will dictate where people go. It's only natural

If I'm being honest, I can see myself switching pretty quickly. I'm still pretty new to all this Fediverse stuff and changes happen all the time.

The main thing that irks me about Lemmy right now is the UI and the latency. I've used Jerboa, and now I'm using Liftoff and I'm really not a fan of the UI. I was a Boost for Reddit user, so if Boost was somehow reworked for Lemmy, I'd be more than happy to use it (I'm not trying to demand this, just saying that's what I'd like to see in apps).

The other issue is latency. The dbzer0 instance is already pretty damn slow for me, but even lemmy.world takes so long for loading comments and posting is the most annoying.

It's still early but I wouldn't expect the community to suddenly move to something new/better in the very near future. People here are still getting used to Lemmy/Fediverse.

Personally I'm happy with how things are progressing but you're right, stuff like UI/UX needs more fine tuning.. I'd expect it to get better as things go on. Also keep in mind since everything is federated here you could technically still participate via any other software that is also federated to Lemmy (signing up to a Kbin instance would be the closest at the moment).

I'm not committed to a fuck if something better come up i will move my shit to there that's it i am not a fandead of anything.

I'm not a fan of it. I have three separate accounts on lemmy servers. I don't like the separation of different servers that are happening and I feel like it's all a big mess. I know it can improve but so far I'm not impressed. I also agree with others that it is very slow in terms of performance.

Is it me or is it kind of sad that we seem to enter an era of non-descriptive platform names?

Like, what is a Mastodon? Twitter was a cool name. Tweets on Twitter, that just sounded right. It's definitely not the name that caused the platforms downfall... Facebook, MySpace, Reddit, Snpachat, Tumblr, Twitter, Youtube - I like creative but descriptive names for platforms. Now we have Tiktok, Mastodon, Lemmy and stuff like that. Meh.

i do hope its here to stay, having to constantly switch platforms is a pain in the ass

Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.

But yes, it's the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we'll see what the future brings ;)

I'd move. I don't like how lemmy is setup.

I'd move to something else. This place is ugly to the eyes imo. I prefer the mesage board style over this.