50s. Getting back to one’s 30s you’re still old enough for people to take you seriously, but the creaking bones and exhaustion hasn’t really started creeping in yet.
the creaking bones and exhaustion hasn’t really started creeping in yet.
Uhhh about that
Well, just saying, what creaking bones I had in my 30s don’t even rate in comparison now
Wife and i were talking about that yesterday. I turned 50 last year and its like my body just decided that everything should brake down all at once.
I said the same thing once I hit 30... I threw my back out once when I sneezed and was like whelp I'm basically almost dead now
Ha yeah had that not with a sneeze but i made a mistake by taking a drink from the fridge, and there it went. Dumb thing is i can carry “heavy” stuff and be fine but i look at a sock wrong and my backs out and walk like a duck for a week.
chuckles I'm in danger
Uh oh...
Start doing morning stretches, drink more water, and avoid caffeine after 5pm
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Eh, that’s a mitigating circumstance.
Ugh I turn 30 today, I've had a bum knee for like 15 years and now the arthritis is starting in my thumbs 🙄
What on earth did you do at 15? Were you that guy that jumped off the 10 foot roof and landed legs locked in rainboots? :p
I threw a head high kick in a kung fu tournament and landed weird, it's never been the same. I probably tore something but I didn't go to the doctor on account of the fact I'm American, but I manage the pain pretty well with medical marijuana and walking barefoot, at least in the warmer months.
Ooof, I'm sorry. :/
I don't take it. I give it to my cat, who died one day after her twentieth birthday.
No earlier than 45. Otherwise you're headed back into territory where your body and brain are still developing – fuck with that and you might not feel right in your own body.
Yeah, it's gotta be in the late 40's.
By then, you've got all the aches and pains, and you'll know better to take care of things like your posture! Lol
Good shout
I'm 42. Does everyone get a pill? My wife? My kids? My parents?
Jumping back 20 years puts me out of sync with everyone I care about. I'm not sure I'd even want it.
That's a good point. You kinda lose your kids once you take the pill. On the flip side though, who's putting who in the nursing home now?
Why do you lose your kids? You could still be there
I think there's a certain power dynamic that comes with looking and acting older. If you look the same age or younger than your kids, that power dynamic is most likely going to slowly shift. It'd be like if you're in your 40s working for a guy who looks like he's in his 20s. While possible, I imagine it'd be a challenging arrangement. Not to mention how your kids would feel about your decision as a parent to take an age reversal pill.
I think there's an assumption that kids are about 20 years younger than the one taking the pill, this will not always be true. In the US women's median age for giving birth had hit 30 in 2022, I would expect that age is even higher in men.
So, if you're 45 and your child is 15, after taking the pill you'll be 25 which looks like an adult enough for a 15 year old
Out-of-sync not only in lifestyle but you'd now be young enough to possibly outlive your loved ones. Thats a special hell, I'd imagine, burying your parents, wife, and children all because you took a pill to make you younger.
I’m tempted to say 40, so I can relive the most physically fit part of my life, but maybe I should wait until I’m really old. Not sure
Yeah stick with 40. What are you gonna do, be like "yeah it feels great being only 50 years again! Glad I passed up having a second twenties." If you heard someone say that you'd think they were insane.
True, but I was a doofus in my twenties. I suppose it depends if we get to keep our collected wisdom/lack of fucks or not
If I can't keep my thoughts and memories, it's not the pill for me
Assuming this is a tablet, I chop it in half and my wife and I both enjoy being in our twenties again.
Let's say hypothetically this repairs organ damage.
I have 2 choices. I can save the pill for when I or a loved on is in serious danger of death or I can do a shit ton of LSD, like an absurd amount of LSD, enough to actually break me and then reset.
It's a tough choice /s
My man
I'd take it today. I'm in my 50s, I'm an endurance athlete (I race bikes) and the calculus looks like: if I wait 20 years I get to experience body-age 50-70 twice, but if I take it now I experience 30-50 twice. Living my prime twice is better than enduring my decline twice, thanks
What you said, but I'm just shy of 50 and I run rather than cycle
For your first 20-40 trip, you could stay childless and live it up, see the world.
Then, on your second 20-40 trip, you could have kids while still physically fit and able to keep up with them and have fun.
The problem with that is that (now that I'm in my 40s) I don't like to be around kids for long periods of time, and have come to see anyone under ~25 as a kid. Would I be able to stand being around myself (or my new peers)?
It would be weird to have kids with someone who is effectively 20 years younger than you, though.
You either go with someone physically the same age who is of a completely different generation from you, or you go with someone mentally your age who you may not be able to have kids with without risking a higher chance of congenital disorders.
I had the same thought. While there is some couples with such a huge age difference,it makes everything much more complicated.
A lot of variables in the magic to consider, but if you retain your knowledge, than 35 back to 15. You've essentially matured as far as you will at that point, started a family or married if you will do so, found stabilization in your career or at least moved far down that path, you hit the major milestones.
So back to 15 and then you live out the bulk of your high school with knowledge to help you actually enjoy learning, slow pace of high school, form lasting lifelong friendships, properly pursue education beyond high school, then live your 20s with a full appreciation for what they are, start saving money the right way, date the right way and invest in all of the tech companies before they get big so that you're obscenely wealthy through your late 20s and beyond.
Use the money to line a small island completely with underground dynamite charges. Invite trump, tell him you're offering him an unlimited budget to make the island into the first trump island and resort, hand him a golden shovel and say, "I'm going to get in this helicopter to get higher up to take a nice cinematic shot of you breaking ground for the press release" when you're out of the blast radius, press the button. You've done one of the greater services to humanity by any living human in history. Enjoy your earned retirement.
I'd take it right now.
I'm not married, not dating, and have no kids.
Getting 20 years back means I can correct a lot of mistakes and I'll have way more energy and focus to be the me I want to be. My 20s were so stressful I started getting white hair.
It just de ages you, you'd still be married I guess lol
I think they're not married and they'd like to find someone.
I added some words to clear it up. I often write how I talk, which is to say extremely informal. Around my area it all makes sense. It was meant to imply that I don't have those things so I'm not abandoning anybody or leaving anybody. If you were able to magically de-age yourself it would be viewed as somewhat selfish.
Like, if I go from 35 to 15 do I go back to school, clear student loan debts, etc?
Because redoing the lead up and college with the maturity to actually try would probably be good.
Key question here. I'd take it at 37 and go back to being 17 with the skills, knowledge, and experiences and most importantly income of my 37 year-old self.
But, I'd pass myself off as 18. Unless, of course, it's not a secret. In which case the strategy totally changes.
If it's known and knowable that I took this drug, then I'd take it at 55 and de-age to 35. Then, when my kids are in their teens and tweens, I'll have the energy for their B.S. Also, when I retire at 95 (b/c seriously, retirement wont be a thing for me), I'll only be 75 and I'll still be able to fight off some of the horde of lawyer-bots, advertisclones, and chain letters that are coming after my pension.
I was thinking 15 so I can do homework in high school and get As instead of Bs to play the whole "good college" game. Maybe actually try on SATs. Etc.
I'm 42, I was fat in my 20s and didn't lose 100 pounds and get in shape until 31. I'd gladly take that pill right this instant, make a lot of different choices, lose my weight and get in shape at a younger age too. I would have a very different life I bet.
But alas, your theoretical pill just taunts "Now Me"!
The day your health becomes a problem requiring more than regular effort to maintain.
That’ll rewind the clock to a lot of good years that maybe you can push back the decline a little further. Your clock will run out eventually, it’s inevitable. You just want to maximize the good years, not just youth or keeping yourself from death.
doesn't work for me if I have to be over 20
Yeah that was, uh, 15 for me. Turn me back into my parents' imagination!
I'd probably go back and beg for puberty blockers
Going with 47 and six-ish months… no reason 😅
Ok grandad
Get off my lawn with your drugs hippie!
Going with the just de-age interpretation and not time travel, it has to be late enough I could still pass for an adult but I'd want it before any of my chronic health conditions emerge so I can mitigate them. I don't want to look younger, I just want the health benefits.
I can't go back to being a kid because where the hell would new identity documents come from? I still have to be able to live my current life more or less. I suppose 35 is the absolute minimum for me to take it, at 15 I wasn't getting carded buying alcohol. I reckon at that age with the right presentation I could pass for 20 at least, and a 35 year old seeming that young isn't completely unheard of.
I can't go too much older because issues start compounding in my 20s. I'd love to have picked a post development age - aside from my health, I didn't really get comfortable in my own skin until then - but it'd be too late. Maybe 40 so the worst of puberty is over, but that's probably my limit.
40, I want to go back to when my body was in great condition. At 20, I didn't feel any of the aches and pains I had in my early 30s. It would give me 10 years to do a better job taking care of it and hopefully avoid the current state it's in now.
Is give it to my wife when we were 50 :)
I turned 44 just the other day; honestly, without a doubt I'd have taken the pill the day before my 21st birthday. One big do-over and minimal responsibilities to manage after the de-aging.
✔️ Someone taking care of me 24/7 for a period measured in years?
✔️ School? What a joke. Ace everything, be a social and intellectual prodigy?
✔️ No bills, no responsibilities?
✔️ Boundless energy and Wolverine-like healing?
✔️ One set of friends in their 40s with life and professional advice/connections for you as you turn 21; and another set of friends your own age bursting with enthusiasm, ideas, and a gleam in their eye?
Like, I'm not seeing a downside to this over here...
This is why the relived past is a trap for the mind.
Says the guy from the future... 😅
What is this magic?
They're from another instance whose clock is set wrong
I'm a little adrift...
You will not be taken serious, you will have no friends as everyone thinks you are a freak, your aceing in school will put you on a special gifted track, with high expectations that you will fall short of tremendously, once you outpaced the school stuff you just could do by memory.
By the time you are physically 20 again you will be a failed freak, that is distanced from his family and probably severely mentally ill, from the constant rejection by both children and adults.
I had a stroke at 21 that ruined (ended, really) my life. So anytime in late 30s, then get the fuck on blood pressure meds. And bitch-slap all the 'healthcare providers' that either didn't believe me or didn't actually treat the problem, only the symptoms (blinding, debilitating migraines). Fucking lining their pockets with visits and medication that they knew wasn't treating the cause.
As late as possible.
On the other hand, right now.
I’ll take it but only if the manufacturer brands it NuGame+
I'd take it immediately. Whether it rolls back time as well, or just my physical/biological age, having that reset is good. For time, it lets me be able to jump on financial trends before they happen such as bitcoin. Also lets me redo some stuff I fucked up. For biological age it's just regaining my youth and let's me get on HRT earlier than I did which would've been beneficial. I kinda threw away the past 15 years, so having a redo would be nice.
38-41ish. It'd be awkward to de-age below the appropriate local age of alcohol/consent/whatever, but that aside you wanna do it as early as possible. It's 20 more years of having a functional body, no reason to delay when you might randomly get hit by the bus tomorrow.
Exactly at 20 so I become a fresh zygote and die on the spot.
24 seems a decent time. Returning to the brain plasticity of a 4 year old with all of the memories and knowledge of a 24 year old would produce a horrific intellect and potential. Society would leap forward in any task you decide to advance. The indescribable isolation may well be the only issue, but piles of money heal many forms of hurt. See: Magic Johnson
That. . . sounds horrifying.
The words of one to be cowed by their malignantly depressed, cherubic god.
It depends whether I can somehow go back to the body of a 20 year old but keep my current 40 year old brain. I'm not going to pretend the majority of my improvements in patience, empathy, humility, work ethic and dgaf-ness are me consciously maturing instead of improvements in brain chemistry.
I think it's a little of column a, a little of column b
I'd imagine so long as your brain is fully matured (~25+) you'd get to keep all those benefits you've accrued
"de-ages" I assume means genetically? You don't get to go back in time.
Today then.
Eh, it's hypothetical, interpret it how you like!
45 for sure.
Realistically, 40 - 50.
But I am also tempted to say 20. I could be the most talented baby ever.
I'd have to have taken it back at 37 to go back to a point where my body wasn't broken, and I'm trying to decide if the prospect of being able to stand without pain is worth being a teenager again...
So I take this pill, and I become physically younger. I don't move back in time, I'm still legally a 36 year old, but I look and feel like I'm 16.
It depends on how this works. Is the pill a magic spell where there's a poof and I'm in my previous body as it was 20 years ago, or is it just "damage and wear and tear are undone?" Because I've had a few surgeries I don't want to redo in the last 20 years; I don't want my wisdom teeth or appendix back. I've had a dental implant since then, does that reverse itself...is a bicuspid going to try to grow out of my skull through the titanium socket bone grafted into my face?
For practicality's sake I think no earlier than 43, simply because...at that point your younger self is a fully developed adult; if someone cards you and says "You're telling me you're 43 years old?" You can say "Yeah I've had some work done."
Much younger than 40 years old and you have to repeat portions of adolescence and/or childhood, which would be inconvenient at best.
Counterpoint: I didn't discover I was trans until after the wrong puberty made being trans a lot harder. Going back to before that would let me right a pretty grand sense of wrongness.
Lots of people are treating this like you would go back in time and get a do over, rather than being de-aged.
I'm assuming that de-aging would roll back any age related aches and pains, but not affect my memory, other than possibly making it better. It would give me more energy, so I'd be overweight and young instead of overweight and old :D
I'd take it at around my late 30s to early 40s to get back to my late teens to early 20s. My body was fully developed, so I wouldn't have to go through puberty or have too many teenage hormones, and I'd have enough energy to get in shape again.
If it de-aged me by putting me back into my body from the time, then it would be when I was 42. 22 was when I was in the best shape of my life, and before I picked up a few long lasting injuries. I found out in my early 30s that I've got a chronic illness too, and it hit me hard.
I'd get the doctors and dentist to work on the health issues that I didn't know about when I was young, and stop them from becoming serious, and generally get healthier.
Most importantly, I'd take my kid out and do all the things that we haven't been able to do together :)
Good point! I didn't consider this. In this case I'd probably just start taking better care of my body now and wait to take it until the pain gets real bad or I find out I have cancer.
Anywhere from 20 - 45 to repeat the best years for physical activity. Assumes that it goes back to the physical shape I was in at the time.
I would even hope to make better long term choices, but probably wouldn't.
I don't understand the premise. Do I keep my older memories and experience? So if I take it at age 21, I become a 1yo with the knowledge of a college student? Do I also get to repeat having the memory and learning speed that little kids have? It might be worth considering.
I'll go for another angle, since the 'about 40' has been done to death.
If this is a pill that de-ages but does not de-mature you, go for it at 20. On the way to 20 you are maturing, but also aging. Who knows what mature, but with newborn level 'age' health might look like. Imagine the boost from a 40 year old to a 20 year old, but starting from a baseline of a 20 year old.
Sounds like a Black Mirror episode: The mind of a 20 year old in the body of a newborn. Incapable of doing all the things, that a 20 year old would think of. Many years until you are allowed again to do things, that you are actually mature enough to do.
Well, if it 'de-matures' then certainly would say older, at least mid 30s.
Lots of wiggle room in the question.
Some assume outright time travel, to repeat your life exactly as it were.
Then there's the question of maturation versus just the degenerative effects of aging.
Is it just the natural break down or is it also "wear and tear", and if "wear and tear", does that extend to damage from disease or injury? Can you reset to before an amputation if one were needed? If that's the case you'd want to hold on to that pill until you really start feeling things or have an injury. In school a girl was in an accident and got her leg amputated at 7 or so, so I wager for her the answer would have been certainly under 27 if it got her leg back, even if it meant dealing with a preteen body for a while.
47
That way you can go back with your current knowledge and do it better the next time around.
Hmmm
Hmmm?
There are a surprising number of people here under the impression that they knew anything by the age of 20.
the only thing i knew by age twenty was that i was an idiot and depressed
this has not changed
Can I sell the pill?
Yes.
In that case I sell it some billionaire for a 100 million. It is quality not quantity of life. It isn't like I am losing twenty years of life I am gaining a 100 million dollars.
I find it funny that no one else (including me) even considered selling it!
Now feel free to answer if you can't :)
Edit: although I bet you could fetch WAY more than 100 mil for it. The oldest and richest people in the world would probably give up the majority of their fortune, especially if they were close to death. Auction it off!
I find it funny that no one else (including me) even considered selling it!
I was inspired by a yt video I am listening to say too much now.
I would take it at 60.
Why the hell would I want to do the last 20 years all over again?
They were shit the first time, aint gonna be anything but worse the second time around.
Probably 65, as 45 was my vampire age, and I have enjoyed the time since that age. I am not sure I'd like to go back to fertility though. Think about it, say you take it at 40, menarche around 15 and menopause around 55, that's periods for 60 years instead of 40 years, and twenty extra years you might get pregnant.
I've had some time to think on this, I still say probably 65. I waffled for awhile because I would like to have the build I had before the last 2 children, but keep the kids, the ten pound wonder blew out my abs and skin which happily bounced completely back several times did not make a complete recovery with the last. But the 3 additional years I spent nursing them provides additional protection vs. breast cancer, don't think I'd want to give up their half of that. And I have literally felt better and healthier in the years after 40, so rather have more of those.
My man, those "pills" are coming and they won't be unique usage (like some Genie provides them).
But they wont be as blunt either, it will be rejuvenation of your retina, kidneys, liver, skin (that doesn't mean you'll look younger), back muscles, heart, etcetera.
If you have cancer type 352 and we got a "pill" to treat it (a treatment, with a high probability to fix it) will you take it and extend your life by 20 years?
We're in a biotech revolution, not in a Santa Claus situation.
I thought like you until I realised medicine is for the rich. Even in countries with universal healthcare there's rationing of advanced therapies.
Years 10-20 - Human drug trials
Years 20-30 - Rich people use it.
Years 30-40 - Appears in universal healthcare systems.
Years 40+ - Appears in the UK NHS.
There's a few promising senesance drugs in trials but that means you and I won't see it until 2060 at the earliest.
rich people also try some weird shit. Wasn't the main reason radium got banned was because some rich guy died of radium water or something?
Take it when I'm 18 and I will have never been born
You'll have 2 years in Minusland...
Minusland is a dark, gloomy region far beneath the surface of the Earth, filled up entirely with fog, and inhabited only by the invisible and highly dangerous Gnoolies, creatures which, with a single bite, turn their victims into more Gnoolies
Take it at 30 so you're physically 10 but mentally 30.
All your peers would be annoying little kids D:
I'd still consider the 30 year old crowd to be my peers. I am still technically 30, I just look 10. The only downside to this is like that time I saw a dwarf being accosted by an elderly woman when she saw him light up a cigarette from behind and incorrectly assumed it was a child.
Why would you want to look like a child?! Although it could be funny showing bouncers your id (assuming you're able to update the pic)
I'd take it at 25, breeze through school while amassing knowledge in my fresh brain, then I will become god emporia
But this pill doesn't take you back in time, it de-ages you. So Legally you would be 25 in a 5 year old body. (With or without your current knowladge)
50s. Getting back to one’s 30s you’re still old enough for people to take you seriously, but the creaking bones and exhaustion hasn’t really started creeping in yet.
Uhhh about that
Well, just saying, what creaking bones I had in my 30s don’t even rate in comparison now
Wife and i were talking about that yesterday. I turned 50 last year and its like my body just decided that everything should brake down all at once.
I said the same thing once I hit 30... I threw my back out once when I sneezed and was like whelp I'm basically almost dead now
Ha yeah had that not with a sneeze but i made a mistake by taking a drink from the fridge, and there it went. Dumb thing is i can carry “heavy” stuff and be fine but i look at a sock wrong and my backs out and walk like a duck for a week.
chuckles I'm in danger
Uh oh...
Start doing morning stretches, drink more water, and avoid caffeine after 5pm
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Eh, that’s a mitigating circumstance.
Ugh I turn 30 today, I've had a bum knee for like 15 years and now the arthritis is starting in my thumbs 🙄
What on earth did you do at 15? Were you that guy that jumped off the 10 foot roof and landed legs locked in rainboots? :p
I threw a head high kick in a kung fu tournament and landed weird, it's never been the same. I probably tore something but I didn't go to the doctor on account of the fact I'm American, but I manage the pain pretty well with medical marijuana and walking barefoot, at least in the warmer months.
Ooof, I'm sorry. :/
I don't take it. I give it to my cat, who died one day after her twentieth birthday.
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No earlier than 45. Otherwise you're headed back into territory where your body and brain are still developing – fuck with that and you might not feel right in your own body.
Yeah, it's gotta be in the late 40's.
By then, you've got all the aches and pains, and you'll know better to take care of things like your posture! Lol
Good shout
I'm 42. Does everyone get a pill? My wife? My kids? My parents?
Jumping back 20 years puts me out of sync with everyone I care about. I'm not sure I'd even want it.
That's a good point. You kinda lose your kids once you take the pill. On the flip side though, who's putting who in the nursing home now?
Why do you lose your kids? You could still be there
I think there's a certain power dynamic that comes with looking and acting older. If you look the same age or younger than your kids, that power dynamic is most likely going to slowly shift. It'd be like if you're in your 40s working for a guy who looks like he's in his 20s. While possible, I imagine it'd be a challenging arrangement. Not to mention how your kids would feel about your decision as a parent to take an age reversal pill.
I think there's an assumption that kids are about 20 years younger than the one taking the pill, this will not always be true. In the US women's median age for giving birth had hit 30 in 2022, I would expect that age is even higher in men.
So, if you're 45 and your child is 15, after taking the pill you'll be 25 which looks like an adult enough for a 15 year old
Out-of-sync not only in lifestyle but you'd now be young enough to possibly outlive your loved ones. Thats a special hell, I'd imagine, burying your parents, wife, and children all because you took a pill to make you younger.
I’m tempted to say 40, so I can relive the most physically fit part of my life, but maybe I should wait until I’m really old. Not sure
Yeah stick with 40. What are you gonna do, be like "yeah it feels great being only 50 years again! Glad I passed up having a second twenties." If you heard someone say that you'd think they were insane.
True, but I was a doofus in my twenties. I suppose it depends if we get to keep our collected wisdom/lack of fucks or not
If I can't keep my thoughts and memories, it's not the pill for me
Agreed
But then again, I do miss my party-hard years...
Assuming this is a tablet, I chop it in half and my wife and I both enjoy being in our twenties again.
Let's say hypothetically this repairs organ damage.
I have 2 choices. I can save the pill for when I or a loved on is in serious danger of death or I can do a shit ton of LSD, like an absurd amount of LSD, enough to actually break me and then reset.
It's a tough choice /s
My man
I'd take it today. I'm in my 50s, I'm an endurance athlete (I race bikes) and the calculus looks like: if I wait 20 years I get to experience body-age 50-70 twice, but if I take it now I experience 30-50 twice. Living my prime twice is better than enduring my decline twice, thanks
What you said, but I'm just shy of 50 and I run rather than cycle
For your first 20-40 trip, you could stay childless and live it up, see the world.
Then, on your second 20-40 trip, you could have kids while still physically fit and able to keep up with them and have fun.
The problem with that is that (now that I'm in my 40s) I don't like to be around kids for long periods of time, and have come to see anyone under ~25 as a kid. Would I be able to stand being around myself (or my new peers)?
It would be weird to have kids with someone who is effectively 20 years younger than you, though.
You either go with someone physically the same age who is of a completely different generation from you, or you go with someone mentally your age who you may not be able to have kids with without risking a higher chance of congenital disorders.
I had the same thought. While there is some couples with such a huge age difference,it makes everything much more complicated.
A lot of variables in the magic to consider, but if you retain your knowledge, than 35 back to 15. You've essentially matured as far as you will at that point, started a family or married if you will do so, found stabilization in your career or at least moved far down that path, you hit the major milestones.
So back to 15 and then you live out the bulk of your high school with knowledge to help you actually enjoy learning, slow pace of high school, form lasting lifelong friendships, properly pursue education beyond high school, then live your 20s with a full appreciation for what they are, start saving money the right way, date the right way and invest in all of the tech companies before they get big so that you're obscenely wealthy through your late 20s and beyond.
Use the money to line a small island completely with underground dynamite charges. Invite trump, tell him you're offering him an unlimited budget to make the island into the first trump island and resort, hand him a golden shovel and say, "I'm going to get in this helicopter to get higher up to take a nice cinematic shot of you breaking ground for the press release" when you're out of the blast radius, press the button. You've done one of the greater services to humanity by any living human in history. Enjoy your earned retirement.
I'd take it right now.
I'm not married, not dating, and have no kids.
Getting 20 years back means I can correct a lot of mistakes and I'll have way more energy and focus to be the me I want to be. My 20s were so stressful I started getting white hair.
It just de ages you, you'd still be married I guess lol
I think they're not married and they'd like to find someone.
I added some words to clear it up. I often write how I talk, which is to say extremely informal. Around my area it all makes sense. It was meant to imply that I don't have those things so I'm not abandoning anybody or leaving anybody. If you were able to magically de-age yourself it would be viewed as somewhat selfish.
Like, if I go from 35 to 15 do I go back to school, clear student loan debts, etc?
Because redoing the lead up and college with the maturity to actually try would probably be good.
Key question here. I'd take it at 37 and go back to being 17 with the skills, knowledge, and experiences and most importantly income of my 37 year-old self. But, I'd pass myself off as 18. Unless, of course, it's not a secret. In which case the strategy totally changes.
If it's known and knowable that I took this drug, then I'd take it at 55 and de-age to 35. Then, when my kids are in their teens and tweens, I'll have the energy for their B.S. Also, when I retire at 95 (b/c seriously, retirement wont be a thing for me), I'll only be 75 and I'll still be able to fight off some of the horde of lawyer-bots, advertisclones, and chain letters that are coming after my pension.
I was thinking 15 so I can do homework in high school and get As instead of Bs to play the whole "good college" game. Maybe actually try on SATs. Etc.
I'm 42, I was fat in my 20s and didn't lose 100 pounds and get in shape until 31. I'd gladly take that pill right this instant, make a lot of different choices, lose my weight and get in shape at a younger age too. I would have a very different life I bet.
But alas, your theoretical pill just taunts "Now Me"!
The day your health becomes a problem requiring more than regular effort to maintain.
That’ll rewind the clock to a lot of good years that maybe you can push back the decline a little further. Your clock will run out eventually, it’s inevitable. You just want to maximize the good years, not just youth or keeping yourself from death.
doesn't work for me if I have to be over 20
Yeah that was, uh, 15 for me. Turn me back into my parents' imagination!
I'd probably go back and beg for puberty blockers
Going with 47 and six-ish months… no reason 😅
Ok grandad
Get off my lawn with your drugs hippie!
Going with the just de-age interpretation and not time travel, it has to be late enough I could still pass for an adult but I'd want it before any of my chronic health conditions emerge so I can mitigate them. I don't want to look younger, I just want the health benefits.
I can't go back to being a kid because where the hell would new identity documents come from? I still have to be able to live my current life more or less. I suppose 35 is the absolute minimum for me to take it, at 15 I wasn't getting carded buying alcohol. I reckon at that age with the right presentation I could pass for 20 at least, and a 35 year old seeming that young isn't completely unheard of.
I can't go too much older because issues start compounding in my 20s. I'd love to have picked a post development age - aside from my health, I didn't really get comfortable in my own skin until then - but it'd be too late. Maybe 40 so the worst of puberty is over, but that's probably my limit.
40, I want to go back to when my body was in great condition. At 20, I didn't feel any of the aches and pains I had in my early 30s. It would give me 10 years to do a better job taking care of it and hopefully avoid the current state it's in now.
Is give it to my wife when we were 50 :)
I turned 44 just the other day; honestly, without a doubt I'd have taken the pill the day before my 21st birthday. One big do-over and minimal responsibilities to manage after the de-aging.
Like, I'm not seeing a downside to this over here...
This is why the relived past is a trap for the mind.
Says the guy from the future... 😅
What is this magic?
They're from another instance whose clock is set wrong
I'm a little adrift...
You will not be taken serious, you will have no friends as everyone thinks you are a freak, your aceing in school will put you on a special gifted track, with high expectations that you will fall short of tremendously, once you outpaced the school stuff you just could do by memory.
By the time you are physically 20 again you will be a failed freak, that is distanced from his family and probably severely mentally ill, from the constant rejection by both children and adults.
I had a stroke at 21 that ruined (ended, really) my life. So anytime in late 30s, then get the fuck on blood pressure meds. And bitch-slap all the 'healthcare providers' that either didn't believe me or didn't actually treat the problem, only the symptoms (blinding, debilitating migraines). Fucking lining their pockets with visits and medication that they knew wasn't treating the cause.
As late as possible.
On the other hand, right now.
I’ll take it but only if the manufacturer brands it NuGame+
I'd take it immediately. Whether it rolls back time as well, or just my physical/biological age, having that reset is good. For time, it lets me be able to jump on financial trends before they happen such as bitcoin. Also lets me redo some stuff I fucked up. For biological age it's just regaining my youth and let's me get on HRT earlier than I did which would've been beneficial. I kinda threw away the past 15 years, so having a redo would be nice.
38-41ish. It'd be awkward to de-age below the appropriate local age of alcohol/consent/whatever, but that aside you wanna do it as early as possible. It's 20 more years of having a functional body, no reason to delay when you might randomly get hit by the bus tomorrow.
Exactly at 20 so I become a fresh zygote and die on the spot.
24 seems a decent time. Returning to the brain plasticity of a 4 year old with all of the memories and knowledge of a 24 year old would produce a horrific intellect and potential. Society would leap forward in any task you decide to advance. The indescribable isolation may well be the only issue, but piles of money heal many forms of hurt. See: Magic Johnson
That. . . sounds horrifying.
The words of one to be cowed by their malignantly depressed, cherubic god.
It depends whether I can somehow go back to the body of a 20 year old but keep my current 40 year old brain. I'm not going to pretend the majority of my improvements in patience, empathy, humility, work ethic and dgaf-ness are me consciously maturing instead of improvements in brain chemistry.
I think it's a little of column a, a little of column b
I'd imagine so long as your brain is fully matured (~25+) you'd get to keep all those benefits you've accrued
"de-ages" I assume means genetically? You don't get to go back in time.
Today then.
Eh, it's hypothetical, interpret it how you like!
45 for sure.
Realistically, 40 - 50.
But I am also tempted to say 20. I could be the most talented baby ever.
I'd have to have taken it back at 37 to go back to a point where my body wasn't broken, and I'm trying to decide if the prospect of being able to stand without pain is worth being a teenager again...
So I take this pill, and I become physically younger. I don't move back in time, I'm still legally a 36 year old, but I look and feel like I'm 16.
It depends on how this works. Is the pill a magic spell where there's a poof and I'm in my previous body as it was 20 years ago, or is it just "damage and wear and tear are undone?" Because I've had a few surgeries I don't want to redo in the last 20 years; I don't want my wisdom teeth or appendix back. I've had a dental implant since then, does that reverse itself...is a bicuspid going to try to grow out of my skull through the titanium socket bone grafted into my face?
For practicality's sake I think no earlier than 43, simply because...at that point your younger self is a fully developed adult; if someone cards you and says "You're telling me you're 43 years old?" You can say "Yeah I've had some work done."
Much younger than 40 years old and you have to repeat portions of adolescence and/or childhood, which would be inconvenient at best.
Counterpoint: I didn't discover I was trans until after the wrong puberty made being trans a lot harder. Going back to before that would let me right a pretty grand sense of wrongness.
Lots of people are treating this like you would go back in time and get a do over, rather than being de-aged.
I'm assuming that de-aging would roll back any age related aches and pains, but not affect my memory, other than possibly making it better. It would give me more energy, so I'd be overweight and young instead of overweight and old :D
I'd take it at around my late 30s to early 40s to get back to my late teens to early 20s. My body was fully developed, so I wouldn't have to go through puberty or have too many teenage hormones, and I'd have enough energy to get in shape again.
If it de-aged me by putting me back into my body from the time, then it would be when I was 42. 22 was when I was in the best shape of my life, and before I picked up a few long lasting injuries. I found out in my early 30s that I've got a chronic illness too, and it hit me hard.
I'd get the doctors and dentist to work on the health issues that I didn't know about when I was young, and stop them from becoming serious, and generally get healthier.
Most importantly, I'd take my kid out and do all the things that we haven't been able to do together :)
Good point! I didn't consider this. In this case I'd probably just start taking better care of my body now and wait to take it until the pain gets real bad or I find out I have cancer.
Anywhere from 20 - 45 to repeat the best years for physical activity. Assumes that it goes back to the physical shape I was in at the time.
I would even hope to make better long term choices, but probably wouldn't.
I don't understand the premise. Do I keep my older memories and experience? So if I take it at age 21, I become a 1yo with the knowledge of a college student? Do I also get to repeat having the memory and learning speed that little kids have? It might be worth considering.
I'll go for another angle, since the 'about 40' has been done to death.
If this is a pill that de-ages but does not de-mature you, go for it at 20. On the way to 20 you are maturing, but also aging. Who knows what mature, but with newborn level 'age' health might look like. Imagine the boost from a 40 year old to a 20 year old, but starting from a baseline of a 20 year old.
Sounds like a Black Mirror episode: The mind of a 20 year old in the body of a newborn. Incapable of doing all the things, that a 20 year old would think of. Many years until you are allowed again to do things, that you are actually mature enough to do.
Well, if it 'de-matures' then certainly would say older, at least mid 30s.
Lots of wiggle room in the question.
Some assume outright time travel, to repeat your life exactly as it were.
Then there's the question of maturation versus just the degenerative effects of aging.
Is it just the natural break down or is it also "wear and tear", and if "wear and tear", does that extend to damage from disease or injury? Can you reset to before an amputation if one were needed? If that's the case you'd want to hold on to that pill until you really start feeling things or have an injury. In school a girl was in an accident and got her leg amputated at 7 or so, so I wager for her the answer would have been certainly under 27 if it got her leg back, even if it meant dealing with a preteen body for a while.
47
Hmmm
Hmmm?
There are a surprising number of people here under the impression that they knew anything by the age of 20.
the only thing i knew by age twenty was that i was an idiot and depressed
this has not changed
Can I sell the pill?
Yes.
In that case I sell it some billionaire for a 100 million. It is quality not quantity of life. It isn't like I am losing twenty years of life I am gaining a 100 million dollars.
I find it funny that no one else (including me) even considered selling it!
Now feel free to answer if you can't :)
Edit: although I bet you could fetch WAY more than 100 mil for it. The oldest and richest people in the world would probably give up the majority of their fortune, especially if they were close to death. Auction it off!
I was inspired by a yt video I am listening to say too much now.
I would take it at 60.
Why the hell would I want to do the last 20 years all over again?
They were shit the first time, aint gonna be anything but worse the second time around.
Probably 65, as 45 was my vampire age, and I have enjoyed the time since that age. I am not sure I'd like to go back to fertility though. Think about it, say you take it at 40, menarche around 15 and menopause around 55, that's periods for 60 years instead of 40 years, and twenty extra years you might get pregnant.
I've had some time to think on this, I still say probably 65. I waffled for awhile because I would like to have the build I had before the last 2 children, but keep the kids, the ten pound wonder blew out my abs and skin which happily bounced completely back several times did not make a complete recovery with the last. But the 3 additional years I spent nursing them provides additional protection vs. breast cancer, don't think I'd want to give up their half of that. And I have literally felt better and healthier in the years after 40, so rather have more of those.
My man, those "pills" are coming and they won't be unique usage (like some Genie provides them).
But they wont be as blunt either, it will be rejuvenation of your retina, kidneys, liver, skin (that doesn't mean you'll look younger), back muscles, heart, etcetera.
If you have cancer type 352 and we got a "pill" to treat it (a treatment, with a high probability to fix it) will you take it and extend your life by 20 years?
We're in a biotech revolution, not in a Santa Claus situation.
I thought like you until I realised medicine is for the rich. Even in countries with universal healthcare there's rationing of advanced therapies.
There's a few promising senesance drugs in trials but that means you and I won't see it until 2060 at the earliest.
rich people also try some weird shit. Wasn't the main reason radium got banned was because some rich guy died of radium water or something?
Unless you sign up for the drug trials!
Happy days
Take it when I'm 18 and I will have never been born
You'll have 2 years in Minusland...
https://wonka.fandom.com/wiki/Charlie_and_the_Great_Glass_Elevator
The day I turn 40 probably
Probably now, I guess.
Take it at 30 so you're physically 10 but mentally 30.
All your peers would be annoying little kids D:
I'd still consider the 30 year old crowd to be my peers. I am still technically 30, I just look 10. The only downside to this is like that time I saw a dwarf being accosted by an elderly woman when she saw him light up a cigarette from behind and incorrectly assumed it was a child.
Why would you want to look like a child?! Although it could be funny showing bouncers your id (assuming you're able to update the pic)
I'd take it at 25, breeze through school while amassing knowledge in my fresh brain, then I will become god emporia
But this pill doesn't take you back in time, it de-ages you. So Legally you would be 25 in a 5 year old body. (With or without your current knowladge)