i see 20 year old gals bare legged in winter and wish i was that courageous with my sluttiness
Tougher than the troops!
I hate the heat so much.
You're not going to like the future then
That seems to be true on many subjects these days...
I know 🥲
reasons #3742, #3755 and #6278 of why i hate summer.
Summer Enjoyers when they get 8th degree burns on their face after they pass out onto the concrete from heat exhaustion.
Autumn lovers >>> all other seasons
It’s barely a season though. Summer and winter are months long. Any place that actually gets something akin to autumn anymore, itonly lasts for like a few weeks. If that. There are two seasons: summer and winter. They just have barely discernible transition periods which more often than not amount to a few days of back and forth weather, from nice for a day or two, back to the previous seasons temps, then lurching forward to the next, then back and forth with some median-“season” days mixed in mid swing.
Thanks Shell, Exxon, BP, Koch industries, Lockheed, et al
Yep, they fucked up the planet just to make more money. I’d rather buy an NFT made by an AI than give those people another penny, if I had a choice in the matter
Sounds like climate change alright!
throwback to the almost summer temperatures back in january, and now snow just a week ago in april, i love this timeline.
It's my favorite season, except this past year it was rarely ever cool. Winter was better this year. I feel like that's only going too become more true as we go on.
easier to warm up than cool down imo
Clothes-wise sure, we put it 100W at rest, we need only capture that.
I really don't get why you can still buy cooling-only air conditioners when any heat pump can work just as well in either direction
Every aircon should heat or cool the indoor space as required
Then it becomes easy to cool or warm at ~400% efficiency
As s far as window units go, one of the biggest losses is in insulation around the window.
Those that have window units do so because there's really no alternative.
Would bi-directional window-mount ACs be effective heaters, given how much loss a window unit sees through drafts?
If it works for cooling there's no reason it wouldn't work for heating. If they need to stand in the air path for cooling they will need to stand in the air path for heat
Yeah but the ∆T between cooling and heating is way different.
Here in MA, we cool as much as Outdoor - 30F, but we often heat Outdoor + 50F. Sometimes more. Drafts introduced by a poor seal (which is often the case with window units) would be a big deal, no?
This is a silly thing to argue over because we don't get to pick seasons and have to live through the one currently on.
If you can't pick seasons you just need to pick yourself up by the bootstraps. No reason anybody can't pick seasons.
Maybe you don't
You can however move to a hotter/colder climate. You don't need to suffer the climate you don't enjoy if you're willing to suffer the consequence
I don’t think many people have such privilege to change countries they live in freely based on whims
*Cries in tropical weather*
Even when it rains, it can still be over 30 degrees. Life is pain.
Winter is about to arrive down here. It's dry season, with "cold" (18-22º C) nights and scorching hot (29º+) days. Oh, and there's a fuckton of heatwaves that might come around, which are totally not caused by excessive pollution and CO2 emission!
I feel you, man. I live by the coast. I'll be lucky if my neighborhood doesn't join Atlantis in the next decade.
I have an in-window AC that runs on full blast at night in the summers on top of my whole-house AC. 58 degrees FTabsoluteW.
Wow Exxon loves you
For now...solar panels are going in soon, which should more than cover it
My house was built with vents, un-closable, always venting vents. Inside temperature equals outside air temperature plus a little draft as the air moves from inside to outside and outside to inside
Heating or cooling is economically impractical, except in two rooms, one with no vent and one with a vent blocked with foil
I look forward to a knock down/rebuild where the future house will be will insulated and will exchange air with the outside in measured, heat exchanged doses and solar powered air con can heat or cool the house in peak solar generation and the house will be pleasant the rest of the day and night. I'm comfortable in 18°C to about 26° in winter and a little offset upwards in summer, and it's pretty easy to build to not gain or lose more than 8° in 18 hours in my climate (lows in the single digit negatives Celcius; highs seldom more than 40°C)
Not gonna do shit at night.
I bought a battery for mine but you’re about to find how just how much power your AC system uses.
I know exactly how much it uses, I still have a regular electric bill.
In relation to how much power you’re going to make.
Are you buying batteries? Unless you’re buying a whole lot of them ($$$) you’re not even making it one night running your AC like that.
I spent $10k on a whole home battery and it got me 1/3 of my average daily power use.
I stress average because summers were double that, sometimes 2.6x.
I don't know where you are from, but I've been to the US a couple of times and I can understand why the AC power bill can be absurd there. You cannot keep, in August, in the middle of the desert, AC at 18°C when outside there are 35-40°C. It's criminal on so many levels.
I had a layover in Atlanta last summer and I got home sick, so much was the air conditioning in the airport and in shops and restaurants. Outside it was proper sweating hot, inside I was freezing while wearing a hoodie. I've been on a bus where the driver was wearing a heavy jacket, in August, and all because the bus AC was set to something like 15°C. What is wrong with Americans?
Keep AC at 25-27°C, remove all blankets and clothes when you go to sleep, and I bet you it will consume a lot less energy. Unless you live in the Death Valley, in which case, good luck.
This was in west Texas so yeah, basically desert.
I fully agree - every thread like this has people coming out of the woodwork claiming they’d simply die if their house isn’t =< 65f. Maybe it’s because we’re so fat?
25c/77f is a perfectly reasonable temperature to have your house at. If I lived alone, it’d be 78 in the summer.
I live in a basement so it stays a little cooler but I was sitting at 77ish all summer last year with the Windows open and AC vents closed. I have never been so comfortable. Before I did that my housemates were freezing me out with the AC. I was walking around in a sweatshirt when it was 95 outside. Coincidentally both of them are overweight.
Yup, could do this. Have tried to do this. Slept like shit. Not worth it. I'll spend the extra $50/mo on cranking the AC to wake up each day feeling decent.
I spent $10k on a whole home battery and it got me 1/3 of my average daily power use.
Good thing you have a sun for most of the other 2/3.
Have you even looked at the power curve of solar system output? You’re being obtuse.
Plus you seem to have completely ignored the last portion of my comment.
I rarely had months where I zeroed out my bill since I was in an area where credits weren’t a thing. My overproduction was sold back at ~$0.03 per kWh. I had to buy at ~$0.12.
You can be snarky if you like. You’re still wrong if you think that’s enough to cover summer days.
exxon fucking HATES heat pumps, they want everyone to live in the coldest winter burning fossil fuels to survive.
I set my AC to 26°C (79°F) in summers. As far as I know, most people in my country do somewhere between 20 and 26°C (68~79°F).
I bet you also sleep with a heavy blanket as if it were winter.
I got sick last time I was in the US cause everywhere was like 16°C while outside was like 30-35°C. What's your problem, people?
We love AC. We also realize that it's easier tod add layers than to take them off, when out in public.
Bring a hoodie? 🤷
Wow. I am impressed from where I sit, in a house with the AC set to 66F, sometimes 65, to save energy vs where we might otherwise set it.
People consider 70 ideal, don't they? So 65 is only a saving in winter, you would set a higher temperature than ideal in summer
Yeah, it was kind of a joke to say I’d probably like it even colder.
And 65 does just happen to be our default winter setting!
Don't forget the forest fire smoke!
in exchange for almost never running it during the day: i turn my A/C down to like 68 F overnight and sleep like a baby.
Use anything but Fahrenheit, please!
527 °R
Ok I guess I asked for it
What spawn of Satan is R? I wish I never learned of this eldritch horror.
Freedom™ Kelvin 🦅
lol no, that's the most american thing about me and i refuse.
i literally use metric for everything else in my day job and overall life; but for temperature, Fahrenheit makes more sense to me. 100 F? deadly. 70 F? great. 50 F? chilly. 0 F? deadly.
This. Fahrenheit is by far the better temperature scale for talking about environmental temps
Lol it's not, it's just what you are used to
0-100F is a base 10 scale that has inherent advantages. It's not just "what you're used to" any more than you get used to base 10 anything, including all of the metric system. (Which should be redesigned around base 12, but that's a whole different rant).
Beyond that, I find that 1 degree Celsius is too wide of a measurement for a lot of things, especially in the kitchen. My sous vide steaks get cooked at 130F, and that tends to be +/- 1F with the accuracy of the sous vide. If I said it's at 54C +/- 1C, that's not quite right. 54C is closer to 129F, so it's almost outside the accuracy range already. Plus, that 1C of accuracy covers 2.2F, so the finish temperature could be anywhere from 126.8F to 132.2F. Way outside the range, the steak does come out different at those temperatures, and the lower end of that is potentially unsafe (though that's a complicated topic, as well).
But then if I say 54.4C +/- 0.45C, now I have to use more numbers (since numbers with zeros at the end, as in the F example, are easier to remember) with more decimal places to get to the same thing. Dropping down to milligrade or whatever is now using a prefix that's uncommon with this unit of measurement.
But then, I also want to use grams to measure everything out in the kitchen. Ounces and cups are crude for no real advantage.
Metric's ability to convert between units easily isn't particularly useful in the kitchen. Unless you're doing some molecular gastronomy shit, that is.
Purity is not a virtue. Being able to use different measurement systems in different contexts is an advantage.
0-100F is not base 10 at all, it's just what you grew up with. I grew with Celsius and I can easily feel the difference in a few degrees. TV weather people saying that the temp will be in the 80s is less useful to me than if they tell me if it will be 27°C for example
Why would you do ±1°C if the sous vide can do decimals?
Also, the recipe calls for 130°F because it was made by an American, if you look for European recipes it will probably say 54°C. Neither will add decimals to their recipes because that's just being anal
I use F in the kitchen a lot because most of my appliances work in that and also because I basically learn to cook until I moved to the US, so again, what you are used to
0-100F is not base 10 at all,
Umm, yes, it is. Zero and a hundred, and convention is to break up temperatures like "it's in the forties". It's all base 10.
TV weather people saying that the temp will be in the 80s is less useful to me than if they tell me if it will be 27°C for example
Is it going to be 27C all day long? Is it going to be between 80 and 90 all day long? One is more likely than the other, and even if it's 78 in the morning, that's fine, doesn't make much difference.
Here, C is overly precise for the task.
Why would you do ±1°C if the sous vide can do decimals?
Because 130, a number with a zero at the end of it, is easier to deal with than 54.4.
This has an effect on UI, as well. Two buttons for going up or down. With F, you can do that in 1 or 0.5 degree increments. In C, it'd have to be 0.1, and you're pressing it more to get to where you want.
Also, the recipe calls for 130°F because it was made by an American, if you look for European recipes it will probably say 54°C.
Which will be wrong. Steak turns out differently with slight changes in temperature around this level. European recipes will have to go to 54.4C.
Neither will add decimals to their recipes because that’s just being anal
No, it's using sous vide properly. Precision is why you do it.
TV weather people saying that the temp will be in the 80s is less useful to me than if they tell me if it will be 27°C for example
Well this isn't really an accurate comparison. If they know an exact temperature, they would say it in both measurements. But they don't. So "in the 80s" is the perfect range. Preparing for 80 degrees is almost identical to how you would prepare for 89 degrees. There's no metric equivalent. The "20s" is way too big of a range. 20 vs 29 is a huge difference. Also, with it being base 10, you don't really need more information. 80 is 80% hot. Think of the hottest weather you've been in. 80 degrees is about 80% of that. And before you say "I've been in 115 degree weather". Yeah, so have I, I lived in arizona, and 115 is honestly not too much different than 100. After 100 it doesn't matter much. Same with below 0. But the 0-100 range, each degree matters quite a bit
If it had advantages over being what one was used to, it would be more popular. It's not, so it couldn't be.
F makes it easy to describe how people feel, C describes how water feels.
i like this
You expect us to not notice how you skipped over the entire 0-50 range there? "It's just better for everyday temps" my ass.
Also 100F is not deadly if you got water and aren't working hard, and neither is 0F if you got appropriate clothing.
And don't get me started on how y'all pretend that measuring temperature has to be on this stupid ass scale "because it goes to a hundred where I live" but then y'all count your school grades (which are entieely made up and would cost literally nothing to change) to 3.8 or whatever the fuck.
The 4.0 grading scale is that much of a trigger for you? A,b,c,d,f->4,3,2,1,0 then average them.
sorry i live a happy well-rounded life and don't know what any of this means.
Ppl acting like it's winter or summer when autumn and spring are right there
Here in MN we even get several Springs. I think we got 5 this year.
Spring is the worst fucking season weather wise. It's perpetually wet and rainy, and the temperature is erratic. In the past 3 weeks it has been 55, 75, then 30, and now we are up to 80 in my part of Ohio. You cant accommodate for it, you cant plan anything outside, and my allergies go absolutely bananas. Summer is consitent, and the fall never really has wild weather changes, just a steady cooling down.
Apparently you don't live in Scotland (west coast at least).
Spring may not be warm, but we get some clear dry days, and if you're in the sun and out of the wind you can feel the heat.
By summer it's so muggy and humid that 15 degrees (Celsius) feels oppressive. I used to live in Australia but the (not-)heat here feels worse.
No, but my mom's from Newcastle and i have spent a lot if time in Northern England.
And after all the time i having grown up in St. Louis and having spent years in Houston, humidity will never bother me again.
Nah man, rain is beautiful. It sounds amazing, makes everything look amazing, and makes the world look so much more vibrant afterwards.
If it rained two or three times a week until the end of time I’d be the happiest man alive.
Rain is fine, but we have been getting floods and everything was muddy. A light sprinkling is lovely. Thunderstorms are great to sleep through. But heavy rain all week is lousy.
I know I’m weird but that sounds like heaven to me.
Those only last like 2 weeks around here.
Nah, #teamsummer here. I struggle so much in the winter. I either the blanket is too thick and I'm warm but at the cost of waking up drenched it sweat or it's too thin and I have a hard time falling asleep because it's chilly. There's just no blanket that's breathable and isolates well. In the summer I can just use a thin cotton bed sheet and sleep with the window open. Nights like this are one of my favorite things and I love falling asleep to the sound of crickets chirping outside.
learn to open your doors and windows in the nighttime (with bug nets obviously) and keep them closed during the day, nature's AC.
That works now, but from June to August the nights aren't all that much cooler and there is rarely any wind either. Still makes sense, but it feels so futile.
I still like to, if I can, because I don't want old-breath hotboxing CO^2 brain damage. My mom calls this fresh air.
The nights aren't very cool in some parts of the world.
I wish bug nets for windows (or at all) were standard in Sweden.
In some places in the country you will be bitten by 10 thousand mosquitoes just because you dared to open the window for a minute.
I keep my PC in my bedroom so it's hard in general to keep the room comfortable but in the winter you can at least open the windows for a few seconds and nearly instantly make the room comfortable (and without insects). In the summer it's fucking impossible to keep the room cool no matter what you do. At least the PC has good cooling so it survives; I just wish I would.
You can install bug nets yourself easily. There are some from tesa, its the net and a roll of velcro-like tape. I love them.
I would hardly run the AC if the hottest it got in summertime in Oklahoma City was 90°F. But last year, we had several instances where it got up to 100 or 105. And the dew point was 70-75 degrees all summer. So your sweat hardly evaporates. I run my AC all day to keep it 80 degrees and swampy indoors.
I would love to redo my whole house's HVAC system where one smallish central unit cools the kitchen and living room and each of the bedrooms have their own ductless mini split. This is one way to achieve zoning. There's no reason to cool the entire house to 65 degrees if I'm about to be asleep in the bedroom for the next 8 hours. There's no reason to try to keep the whole house cool when I'm about to spend my day in my home office. Just cool the room I'm in and leave the rest alone.
I could also do window units, but for some reason, my wife is vehemently opposed to them. Her parents just put window units in all their bedrooms and one in their living room. They don't use the central unit anymore. They only cool the room they're in right now, and their power bills went from $400 to $150 in summer. They paid for themselves in one season.
Window units are loud AF.
Running a dehumidifier has been the best thing I've ever done though. I believe I'm from a more humid environment though.
One of the best things about living inland is having indoor relative humidity over 30% being high
Closing vents and doors helps.
You shouldn’t. Blocking vents is bad for your blower motor as your constricting the system and putting unwanted wear on the blower motor.
You can do it. But you may end up damaging your hvac system and wearing out some parts much faster then normal.
I have two types of vents:
floor vents - to send central heat to all the rooms
Ceiling vents - to send inside air outside
I can't see any problem with closing one of those types of vent
Again you’re constraining your blower motor by doing so. It’s added wear and tear. It won’t break over night but you will require repairs faster then if you didn’t touch the vents.
Do want you want. It’s your property. But this is similar to someone constantly leaning on their breaks when they are driving.
I think you misread my comment. I wasn't talking about closing vents attached to a blower
What other vents could you possibly be talking about if not hvac vents?
Vents that they used to put in ceilings in houses in Australia to ensure there was good air exchange between the inside and outside. They vent indoor air to roof space.
They seem to have come from architects who lived in places without winter
I'm more of a Spring/Fall enjoyer, but I like winter too. Summer I just turn on a bunch of fans because AC is expensive AF and has a chonky carbon footprint
I'm so cold all the time. I think there's something wrong with me. I'm comfortable in the blazing heat when everyone else is complaining.
My blood pressure and heartrate are always low, so I suspect that may be related.
Yep, I have blood circulation issues (POTS) and I'm perpetually cold unless it's 25+°C out then I'm thriving.
This is a comfortable temperature range for me as well. It feels physically painful for me to be cold.
Autumn's really where it is at. Best season.
Me only being able to sleep while blasting the AC to the point where it's cold enough that I need a blanket: Pathetic
How about is autumn/spring enjoyers?
Everyone enjoys those. It's not controversial.
Fair enough
Opening the windows during sleep sucks in winter tho. That's the only downgrade for me
Disagree! Sleeping with the windows cracked open in the winter is amazing.
When I was in high school my roommate insisted on opening the windows and putting a box fan in them, cranking it to full blast. We’d go to sleep fully dressed lol.
I hated it at first, but honestly, I kind of grew to love it.
Haha, I sleep in a hoodie and my wife is baffled by it, she's a furnace and couldn't possibly.
I really enjoy having that hood, feels like I'm strapping into sleep time.
I live in Florida, what's winter?
bug repellent, my beloved
Makes sex worse.
You didn't want to mate with that mantis anyway, trust me, bro. I've got your back.
It was a beautiful 3 chilly days over here, now we went back to our regular daily hell 🫠🫠🫠
It really depends on where you are. There are places where summer is the same temperature as some other place's winter.
Also, I hate the fact that in winter you have to stay inside all the time, there's no sun and everything is cold and sad. Spring and Summer are the times of the year when you travel, go out, enjoy nature and make memories.
And if you have a decently insulated home or AC, you can sleep great.
come to sweden, where the winters make people kill themselves and the summers are actually a fairytale wonderland.
I am happy sitting alone on my computer. Sweden sounds amazing.
Love fairytales, will visit Sweden now
I make memories in winter too though. Nothing better than playing in the snow with your little daughter. Or ice-skating.
Also, pubs are fucking great in the winter.
That said, I do prefer the summers we have here. The temperature is always around 23-27 °C here, which is great. Also very little humidity.
You let your blanket hang off like that?? You monster!
This is why water beds are amazing
Winter you put memory foam to keep you from the cold water, in summer you sleep on the cold water.
Only downsides to a water bed are: 1. Heavy 2. You have to add chemicals to your mattress as regular maintenance 3. It can't really be extra firm (but a lot more firm than people think)
The water will steal every bit of heat from your body, but you'll stay warm with a blanket
Sometimes I can’t take a bath cause the moving water makes my head spinny. I can’t imagine how bad the water bed would feel lol. I’d probably have mid night breaks for puking.
That's a misconception for water beds.
High-quality water beds have stabilizer pads in the mattress
The idea of the old crappy 70's water bed where they slosh around is a poor idea.
You aren't laying on a ziploc bag barely filled with any water.
It's more like a ziploc bag filled with molasses. If I pushed a corner down it would slowly bring up everywhere else. If I stopped pushing a corner it everything would slowly go back down.
Say I have a massive gut and sleeping on my right side. I'm displacing X amount of water. If I was to turn to my left side I am still displacing the same amount of water. Just the empty space that use to hold my gut would be filled with the water from the other side where my gut is now. Someone on other side of bed wouldn't even feel it because the water underneath them doesn't change.
Thing must weigh like a ton and that without the gut. How do they even assemble this stuff? And whole thing sounds like an accident waiting to happen
Yeah, they can weigh up to 2000lbs with a king-size bed. A king-size bed is 6,080 sq in.
A fridge can weigh 300lb being 36"×30". 1,152 sq in.
Fridge is .26 pounds per sq inch. A water bed is .33 pounds per sq inch.
So while heavy the weight is distributed basically like a fridge. This is assuming an empty fridge.
As for durability, a quality waterbed mattress is thick. You aren't going to pop it or cut it without deliberately trying to.
Even if you took a knife and stabbed it from the top, it's not going to leak until you put weight on it.
Another reason would be you can't use heavier blankets in summer
I quickly acclimate to either, but it's not fun. Low 50f/10C is very comfortable to me by late January while 90f/32C is fine in July. It's the damn December and May that are hell.
10°C is fine in sunlight or still air. If there's a breeze it is cold. Great cycling weather though, you can dump so much heat and barely need gloves
I'm abit extreme with how much seasonal variation, in that I use extremely little climate control in my house (a fan at most and usually only a single space heater). Nighttime/morning exterior temps dropping to 25f/-4C was pretty normal this winter. I'd guess the house stayed just above 0C at the lowest for the most part. Usually start acclamating with a few cold showers. The problem is 70 starts feeling oppressive and I end up getting heat uticaria going grocery shopping lol.
I just want to wear as simple an outfit as I can and get away with it without freezing, ok?
Have you considered living in the tropics?
Have you considered Deez Nuts?
man i wish it was summer already
I'm most cozy at an air temp of like 30°C :( It barely ever gets this hot here in Germany
Sorry I don‘t spend enough time sleeping to actually care
i love wearing my slutty clothes tho
i see 20 year old gals bare legged in winter and wish i was that courageous with my sluttiness
Tougher than the troops!
I hate the heat so much.
You're not going to like the future then
That seems to be true on many subjects these days...
I know 🥲
reasons #3742, #3755 and #6278 of why i hate summer.
Summer Enjoyers when they get 8th degree burns on their face after they pass out onto the concrete from heat exhaustion.
Autumn lovers >>> all other seasons
It’s barely a season though. Summer and winter are months long. Any place that actually gets something akin to autumn anymore, itonly lasts for like a few weeks. If that. There are two seasons: summer and winter. They just have barely discernible transition periods which more often than not amount to a few days of back and forth weather, from nice for a day or two, back to the previous seasons temps, then lurching forward to the next, then back and forth with some median-“season” days mixed in mid swing.
Thanks Shell, Exxon, BP, Koch industries, Lockheed, et al
Yep, they fucked up the planet just to make more money. I’d rather buy an NFT made by an AI than give those people another penny, if I had a choice in the matter
Sounds like climate change alright!
throwback to the almost summer temperatures back in january, and now snow just a week ago in april, i love this timeline.
It's my favorite season, except this past year it was rarely ever cool. Winter was better this year. I feel like that's only going too become more true as we go on.
easier to warm up than cool down imo
Clothes-wise sure, we put it 100W at rest, we need only capture that.
I really don't get why you can still buy cooling-only air conditioners when any heat pump can work just as well in either direction
Every aircon should heat or cool the indoor space as required
Then it becomes easy to cool or warm at ~400% efficiency
As s far as window units go, one of the biggest losses is in insulation around the window.
Those that have window units do so because there's really no alternative.
Would bi-directional window-mount ACs be effective heaters, given how much loss a window unit sees through drafts?
If it works for cooling there's no reason it wouldn't work for heating. If they need to stand in the air path for cooling they will need to stand in the air path for heat
Yeah but the ∆T between cooling and heating is way different.
Here in MA, we cool as much as
Outdoor - 30F, but we often heatOutdoor + 50F. Sometimes more. Drafts introduced by a poor seal (which is often the case with window units) would be a big deal, no?This is a silly thing to argue over because we don't get to pick seasons and have to live through the one currently on.
If you can't pick seasons you just need to pick yourself up by the bootstraps. No reason anybody can't pick seasons.
Maybe you don't
You can however move to a hotter/colder climate. You don't need to suffer the climate you don't enjoy if you're willing to suffer the consequence
I don’t think many people have such privilege to change countries they live in freely based on whims
*Cries in tropical weather*
Even when it rains, it can still be over 30 degrees. Life is pain.
Winter is about to arrive down here. It's dry season, with "cold" (18-22º C) nights and scorching hot (29º+) days. Oh, and there's a fuckton of heatwaves that might come around, which are totally not caused by excessive pollution and CO2 emission!
I feel you, man. I live by the coast. I'll be lucky if my neighborhood doesn't join Atlantis in the next decade.
I have an in-window AC that runs on full blast at night in the summers on top of my whole-house AC. 58 degrees FTabsoluteW.
Wow Exxon loves you
For now...solar panels are going in soon, which should more than cover it
My house was built with vents, un-closable, always venting vents. Inside temperature equals outside air temperature plus a little draft as the air moves from inside to outside and outside to inside
Heating or cooling is economically impractical, except in two rooms, one with no vent and one with a vent blocked with foil
I look forward to a knock down/rebuild where the future house will be will insulated and will exchange air with the outside in measured, heat exchanged doses and solar powered air con can heat or cool the house in peak solar generation and the house will be pleasant the rest of the day and night. I'm comfortable in 18°C to about 26° in winter and a little offset upwards in summer, and it's pretty easy to build to not gain or lose more than 8° in 18 hours in my climate (lows in the single digit negatives Celcius; highs seldom more than 40°C)
Not gonna do shit at night.
I bought a battery for mine but you’re about to find how just how much power your AC system uses.
I know exactly how much it uses, I still have a regular electric bill.
In relation to how much power you’re going to make.
Are you buying batteries? Unless you’re buying a whole lot of them ($$$) you’re not even making it one night running your AC like that.
I spent $10k on a whole home battery and it got me 1/3 of my average daily power use.
I stress average because summers were double that, sometimes 2.6x.
I don't know where you are from, but I've been to the US a couple of times and I can understand why the AC power bill can be absurd there. You cannot keep, in August, in the middle of the desert, AC at 18°C when outside there are 35-40°C. It's criminal on so many levels.
I had a layover in Atlanta last summer and I got home sick, so much was the air conditioning in the airport and in shops and restaurants. Outside it was proper sweating hot, inside I was freezing while wearing a hoodie. I've been on a bus where the driver was wearing a heavy jacket, in August, and all because the bus AC was set to something like 15°C. What is wrong with Americans?
Keep AC at 25-27°C, remove all blankets and clothes when you go to sleep, and I bet you it will consume a lot less energy. Unless you live in the Death Valley, in which case, good luck.
This was in west Texas so yeah, basically desert.
I fully agree - every thread like this has people coming out of the woodwork claiming they’d simply die if their house isn’t =< 65f. Maybe it’s because we’re so fat?
25c/77f is a perfectly reasonable temperature to have your house at. If I lived alone, it’d be 78 in the summer.
I live in a basement so it stays a little cooler but I was sitting at 77ish all summer last year with the Windows open and AC vents closed. I have never been so comfortable. Before I did that my housemates were freezing me out with the AC. I was walking around in a sweatshirt when it was 95 outside. Coincidentally both of them are overweight.
Yup, could do this. Have tried to do this. Slept like shit. Not worth it. I'll spend the extra $50/mo on cranking the AC to wake up each day feeling decent.
Good thing you have a sun for most of the other 2/3.
Have you even looked at the power curve of solar system output? You’re being obtuse.
Plus you seem to have completely ignored the last portion of my comment.
I rarely had months where I zeroed out my bill since I was in an area where credits weren’t a thing. My overproduction was sold back at ~$0.03 per kWh. I had to buy at ~$0.12.
You can be snarky if you like. You’re still wrong if you think that’s enough to cover summer days.
exxon fucking HATES heat pumps, they want everyone to live in the coldest winter burning fossil fuels to survive.
I set my AC to 26°C (79°F) in summers. As far as I know, most people in my country do somewhere between 20 and 26°C (68~79°F).
I bet you also sleep with a heavy blanket as if it were winter.
I got sick last time I was in the US cause everywhere was like 16°C while outside was like 30-35°C. What's your problem, people?
We love AC. We also realize that it's easier tod add layers than to take them off, when out in public.
Bring a hoodie? 🤷
Wow. I am impressed from where I sit, in a house with the AC set to 66F, sometimes 65, to save energy vs where we might otherwise set it.
People consider 70 ideal, don't they? So 65 is only a saving in winter, you would set a higher temperature than ideal in summer
Yeah, it was kind of a joke to say I’d probably like it even colder.
And 65 does just happen to be our default winter setting!
Don't forget the forest fire smoke!
in exchange for almost never running it during the day: i turn my A/C down to like 68 F overnight and sleep like a baby.
Use anything but Fahrenheit, please!
527 °R
Ok I guess I asked for it
What spawn of Satan is R? I wish I never learned of this eldritch horror.
Freedom™ Kelvin 🦅
lol no, that's the most american thing about me and i refuse.
i literally use metric for everything else in my day job and overall life; but for temperature, Fahrenheit makes more sense to me. 100 F? deadly. 70 F? great. 50 F? chilly. 0 F? deadly.
This. Fahrenheit is by far the better temperature scale for talking about environmental temps
Lol it's not, it's just what you are used to
0-100F is a base 10 scale that has inherent advantages. It's not just "what you're used to" any more than you get used to base 10 anything, including all of the metric system. (Which should be redesigned around base 12, but that's a whole different rant).
Beyond that, I find that 1 degree Celsius is too wide of a measurement for a lot of things, especially in the kitchen. My sous vide steaks get cooked at 130F, and that tends to be +/- 1F with the accuracy of the sous vide. If I said it's at 54C +/- 1C, that's not quite right. 54C is closer to 129F, so it's almost outside the accuracy range already. Plus, that 1C of accuracy covers 2.2F, so the finish temperature could be anywhere from 126.8F to 132.2F. Way outside the range, the steak does come out different at those temperatures, and the lower end of that is potentially unsafe (though that's a complicated topic, as well).
But then if I say 54.4C +/- 0.45C, now I have to use more numbers (since numbers with zeros at the end, as in the F example, are easier to remember) with more decimal places to get to the same thing. Dropping down to milligrade or whatever is now using a prefix that's uncommon with this unit of measurement.
But then, I also want to use grams to measure everything out in the kitchen. Ounces and cups are crude for no real advantage.
Metric's ability to convert between units easily isn't particularly useful in the kitchen. Unless you're doing some molecular gastronomy shit, that is.
Purity is not a virtue. Being able to use different measurement systems in different contexts is an advantage.
0-100F is not base 10 at all, it's just what you grew up with. I grew with Celsius and I can easily feel the difference in a few degrees. TV weather people saying that the temp will be in the 80s is less useful to me than if they tell me if it will be 27°C for example
Why would you do ±1°C if the sous vide can do decimals?
Also, the recipe calls for 130°F because it was made by an American, if you look for European recipes it will probably say 54°C. Neither will add decimals to their recipes because that's just being anal
I use F in the kitchen a lot because most of my appliances work in that and also because I basically learn to cook until I moved to the US, so again, what you are used to
Umm, yes, it is. Zero and a hundred, and convention is to break up temperatures like "it's in the forties". It's all base 10.
Is it going to be 27C all day long? Is it going to be between 80 and 90 all day long? One is more likely than the other, and even if it's 78 in the morning, that's fine, doesn't make much difference.
Here, C is overly precise for the task.
Because 130, a number with a zero at the end of it, is easier to deal with than 54.4.
This has an effect on UI, as well. Two buttons for going up or down. With F, you can do that in 1 or 0.5 degree increments. In C, it'd have to be 0.1, and you're pressing it more to get to where you want.
Which will be wrong. Steak turns out differently with slight changes in temperature around this level. European recipes will have to go to 54.4C.
No, it's using sous vide properly. Precision is why you do it.
Well this isn't really an accurate comparison. If they know an exact temperature, they would say it in both measurements. But they don't. So "in the 80s" is the perfect range. Preparing for 80 degrees is almost identical to how you would prepare for 89 degrees. There's no metric equivalent. The "20s" is way too big of a range. 20 vs 29 is a huge difference. Also, with it being base 10, you don't really need more information. 80 is 80% hot. Think of the hottest weather you've been in. 80 degrees is about 80% of that. And before you say "I've been in 115 degree weather". Yeah, so have I, I lived in arizona, and 115 is honestly not too much different than 100. After 100 it doesn't matter much. Same with below 0. But the 0-100 range, each degree matters quite a bit
If it had advantages over being what one was used to, it would be more popular. It's not, so it couldn't be.
F makes it easy to describe how people feel, C describes how water feels.
i like this
You expect us to not notice how you skipped over the entire 0-50 range there? "It's just better for everyday temps" my ass.
Also 100F is not deadly if you got water and aren't working hard, and neither is 0F if you got appropriate clothing.
And don't get me started on how y'all pretend that measuring temperature has to be on this stupid ass scale "because it goes to a hundred where I live" but then y'all count your school grades (which are entieely made up and would cost literally nothing to change) to 3.8 or whatever the fuck.
The 4.0 grading scale is that much of a trigger for you? A,b,c,d,f->4,3,2,1,0 then average them.
sorry i live a happy well-rounded life and don't know what any of this means.
Ppl acting like it's winter or summer when autumn and spring are right there
Here in MN we even get several Springs. I think we got 5 this year.
Spring is the worst fucking season weather wise. It's perpetually wet and rainy, and the temperature is erratic. In the past 3 weeks it has been 55, 75, then 30, and now we are up to 80 in my part of Ohio. You cant accommodate for it, you cant plan anything outside, and my allergies go absolutely bananas. Summer is consitent, and the fall never really has wild weather changes, just a steady cooling down.
Apparently you don't live in Scotland (west coast at least). Spring may not be warm, but we get some clear dry days, and if you're in the sun and out of the wind you can feel the heat. By summer it's so muggy and humid that 15 degrees (Celsius) feels oppressive. I used to live in Australia but the (not-)heat here feels worse.
No, but my mom's from Newcastle and i have spent a lot if time in Northern England.
And after all the time i having grown up in St. Louis and having spent years in Houston, humidity will never bother me again.
Nah man, rain is beautiful. It sounds amazing, makes everything look amazing, and makes the world look so much more vibrant afterwards.
If it rained two or three times a week until the end of time I’d be the happiest man alive.
Rain is fine, but we have been getting floods and everything was muddy. A light sprinkling is lovely. Thunderstorms are great to sleep through. But heavy rain all week is lousy.
I know I’m weird but that sounds like heaven to me.
Those only last like 2 weeks around here.
Nah, #teamsummer here. I struggle so much in the winter. I either the blanket is too thick and I'm warm but at the cost of waking up drenched it sweat or it's too thin and I have a hard time falling asleep because it's chilly. There's just no blanket that's breathable and isolates well. In the summer I can just use a thin cotton bed sheet and sleep with the window open. Nights like this are one of my favorite things and I love falling asleep to the sound of crickets chirping outside.
learn to open your doors and windows in the nighttime (with bug nets obviously) and keep them closed during the day, nature's AC.
That works now, but from June to August the nights aren't all that much cooler and there is rarely any wind either. Still makes sense, but it feels so futile.
I still like to, if I can, because I don't want old-breath hotboxing CO^2 brain damage. My mom calls this fresh air.
The nights aren't very cool in some parts of the world.
I wish bug nets for windows (or at all) were standard in Sweden. In some places in the country you will be bitten by 10 thousand mosquitoes just because you dared to open the window for a minute.
I keep my PC in my bedroom so it's hard in general to keep the room comfortable but in the winter you can at least open the windows for a few seconds and nearly instantly make the room comfortable (and without insects). In the summer it's fucking impossible to keep the room cool no matter what you do. At least the PC has good cooling so it survives; I just wish I would.
You can install bug nets yourself easily. There are some from tesa, its the net and a roll of velcro-like tape. I love them.
I would hardly run the AC if the hottest it got in summertime in Oklahoma City was 90°F. But last year, we had several instances where it got up to 100 or 105. And the dew point was 70-75 degrees all summer. So your sweat hardly evaporates. I run my AC all day to keep it 80 degrees and swampy indoors.
I would love to redo my whole house's HVAC system where one smallish central unit cools the kitchen and living room and each of the bedrooms have their own ductless mini split. This is one way to achieve zoning. There's no reason to cool the entire house to 65 degrees if I'm about to be asleep in the bedroom for the next 8 hours. There's no reason to try to keep the whole house cool when I'm about to spend my day in my home office. Just cool the room I'm in and leave the rest alone.
I could also do window units, but for some reason, my wife is vehemently opposed to them. Her parents just put window units in all their bedrooms and one in their living room. They don't use the central unit anymore. They only cool the room they're in right now, and their power bills went from $400 to $150 in summer. They paid for themselves in one season.
Window units are loud AF.
Running a dehumidifier has been the best thing I've ever done though. I believe I'm from a more humid environment though.
One of the best things about living inland is having indoor relative humidity over 30% being high
Closing vents and doors helps.
You shouldn’t. Blocking vents is bad for your blower motor as your constricting the system and putting unwanted wear on the blower motor.
You can do it. But you may end up damaging your hvac system and wearing out some parts much faster then normal.
I have two types of vents:
I can't see any problem with closing one of those types of vent
Again you’re constraining your blower motor by doing so. It’s added wear and tear. It won’t break over night but you will require repairs faster then if you didn’t touch the vents.
Do want you want. It’s your property. But this is similar to someone constantly leaning on their breaks when they are driving.
I think you misread my comment. I wasn't talking about closing vents attached to a blower
What other vents could you possibly be talking about if not hvac vents?
Vents that they used to put in ceilings in houses in Australia to ensure there was good air exchange between the inside and outside. They vent indoor air to roof space.
They seem to have come from architects who lived in places without winter
I'm more of a Spring/Fall enjoyer, but I like winter too. Summer I just turn on a bunch of fans because AC is expensive AF and has a chonky carbon footprint
I'm so cold all the time. I think there's something wrong with me. I'm comfortable in the blazing heat when everyone else is complaining.
My blood pressure and heartrate are always low, so I suspect that may be related.
Yep, I have blood circulation issues (POTS) and I'm perpetually cold unless it's 25+°C out then I'm thriving.
This is a comfortable temperature range for me as well. It feels physically painful for me to be cold.
Autumn's really where it is at. Best season.
Me only being able to sleep while blasting the AC to the point where it's cold enough that I need a blanket: Pathetic
How about is autumn/spring enjoyers?
Everyone enjoys those. It's not controversial.
Fair enough
Opening the windows during sleep sucks in winter tho. That's the only downgrade for me
Disagree! Sleeping with the windows cracked open in the winter is amazing.
When I was in high school my roommate insisted on opening the windows and putting a box fan in them, cranking it to full blast. We’d go to sleep fully dressed lol.
I hated it at first, but honestly, I kind of grew to love it.
Haha, I sleep in a hoodie and my wife is baffled by it, she's a furnace and couldn't possibly.
I really enjoy having that hood, feels like I'm strapping into sleep time.
I live in Florida, what's winter?
bug repellent, my beloved
Makes sex worse.
You didn't want to mate with that mantis anyway, trust me, bro. I've got your back.
It was a beautiful 3 chilly days over here, now we went back to our regular daily hell 🫠🫠🫠
It really depends on where you are. There are places where summer is the same temperature as some other place's winter.
Also, I hate the fact that in winter you have to stay inside all the time, there's no sun and everything is cold and sad. Spring and Summer are the times of the year when you travel, go out, enjoy nature and make memories.
And if you have a decently insulated home or AC, you can sleep great.
come to sweden, where the winters make people kill themselves and the summers are actually a fairytale wonderland.
I am happy sitting alone on my computer. Sweden sounds amazing.
Love fairytales, will visit Sweden now
I make memories in winter too though. Nothing better than playing in the snow with your little daughter. Or ice-skating.
Also, pubs are fucking great in the winter.
That said, I do prefer the summers we have here. The temperature is always around 23-27 °C here, which is great. Also very little humidity.
You let your blanket hang off like that?? You monster!
This is why water beds are amazing
Winter you put memory foam to keep you from the cold water, in summer you sleep on the cold water.
Only downsides to a water bed are: 1. Heavy 2. You have to add chemicals to your mattress as regular maintenance 3. It can't really be extra firm (but a lot more firm than people think)
The water will steal every bit of heat from your body, but you'll stay warm with a blanket
Sometimes I can’t take a bath cause the moving water makes my head spinny. I can’t imagine how bad the water bed would feel lol. I’d probably have mid night breaks for puking.
That's a misconception for water beds.
High-quality water beds have stabilizer pads in the mattress
The idea of the old crappy 70's water bed where they slosh around is a poor idea.
You aren't laying on a ziploc bag barely filled with any water.
It's more like a ziploc bag filled with molasses. If I pushed a corner down it would slowly bring up everywhere else. If I stopped pushing a corner it everything would slowly go back down.
Say I have a massive gut and sleeping on my right side. I'm displacing X amount of water. If I was to turn to my left side I am still displacing the same amount of water. Just the empty space that use to hold my gut would be filled with the water from the other side where my gut is now. Someone on other side of bed wouldn't even feel it because the water underneath them doesn't change.
Thing must weigh like a ton and that without the gut. How do they even assemble this stuff? And whole thing sounds like an accident waiting to happen
Yeah, they can weigh up to 2000lbs with a king-size bed. A king-size bed is 6,080 sq in.
A fridge can weigh 300lb being 36"×30". 1,152 sq in.
Fridge is .26 pounds per sq inch. A water bed is .33 pounds per sq inch.
So while heavy the weight is distributed basically like a fridge. This is assuming an empty fridge.
As for durability, a quality waterbed mattress is thick. You aren't going to pop it or cut it without deliberately trying to.
Even if you took a knife and stabbed it from the top, it's not going to leak until you put weight on it.
Another reason would be you can't use heavier blankets in summer
I quickly acclimate to either, but it's not fun. Low 50f/10C is very comfortable to me by late January while 90f/32C is fine in July. It's the damn December and May that are hell.
10°C is fine in sunlight or still air. If there's a breeze it is cold. Great cycling weather though, you can dump so much heat and barely need gloves
I'm abit extreme with how much seasonal variation, in that I use extremely little climate control in my house (a fan at most and usually only a single space heater). Nighttime/morning exterior temps dropping to 25f/-4C was pretty normal this winter. I'd guess the house stayed just above 0C at the lowest for the most part. Usually start acclamating with a few cold showers. The problem is 70 starts feeling oppressive and I end up getting heat uticaria going grocery shopping lol.
I just want to wear as simple an outfit as I can and get away with it without freezing, ok?
Have you considered living in the tropics?
Have you considered Deez Nuts?
man i wish it was summer already
I'm most cozy at an air temp of like 30°C :( It barely ever gets this hot here in Germany
Sorry I don‘t spend enough time sleeping to actually care