I really felt cheated that no one was insulted, no rants were frothed, no theories conspiracied in this nfo. All we got was relevant information and kindness.
I'm kidding obvs
Bland release notes.
I wanted some spicy ✨bipolar ranting✨
Not even transphobia? But how will I justify my Vtuber hatemail now? /jk
If you really want to get weird with it you can also play any video in ascii art through libcaca and mplayer. Looks like this
On Linux, you’ll want to install figlet and toilet
I know you're 100% serious, but this sentence sounds so made up and hilarious
I use Arch btw Endeavour OS so don't have Debian repos but I will definitely check them out. I especially like the fancy dark mode.
I just checked and figlet at least appears to be in the arch repositories as well
Thanks, I will check it out tomorrow. I uave used pyfiglet in the past tbf so I figured it woukd be available either via the official repos or the AUR.
it's typically just a kind of pixel art with monospaced fonts¹. any characters you see that's not typically shown on your keyboard (e.g a filled square) can be found in a character selection program in your OS.
anything else related to texts, templating and line breaks you can probably find a program somewhere on places like crates.io or gitlab or write something of your own without much trouble.
¹ a monospaced font is a font where every letter and character has the same spacing from each other, and are the easiest to do ascii art. (ascii is just one character table, but you can also gather unicode chars all you want)
And still include cheesy mp3s playing too loud in retro-futuristic-looking installers
The music in the installers is the best part about installing cracks
The track included in the Rune installer for Starfield was actually a banger
I pirated a cracked version of Adobe Acrobat Pro recently. First thing I had to crack in years. It had a sketchy crack installer , with music and everything. Like it was back in the 90s. Of course it worked perfectly lol.
Chiptune/tracker/keygen music will all hold a special place in my heart.
I love that the installer has a cracktro, that's the real good stuff.
I bopped to that shit for ages.
I really like the chip tunes, but I think they are not creating them anymore in the authentic way
Oh my too!
Somehow I expect hackers to do cooler stuff these days. I want hackers to release a Switch version of the game.
It can barely run on a gtx1070 man what kind of black magic do you expect a hacker to cast to make it run on a Switch
Im not pre-ordering piracy either.
Im waiting for the reviews.
The review embargo was lifted with the start of the early access, meaning that all the regular review channels that received review copies have already posted their content.
That's not "pre-ordering". Go write the reviews
Reviews hit yesterday, check your preferred gaming sites
Go watch people actually play it in twitch or steam or YouTube. See if you like it. Why wait for someone else's opinion?
And also, the "early access" is just a way to get people to pay more for the game in the first week.
By all reasonable standards, the game has been fully released.
"Pre-ordering piracy"... What does that even mean?
To be fair it's the exact same bypass as any other Steam game. Any steam emulator would work.
Bethesda the publisher does things differently than Bethesda the developer.
As a dev, they know their modding communities keep their games alive long, long past their expiration dates and will fuck with them as little as they possibly can - this takes them from games to household names to legends that everyone knows.
As a publisher pushing products that aren't intended to be modded, they drink the koolaid.
I disagree about the publishing side somewhat, every now and then the publishing team hits a home run. Like I've been playing Ghostwire: Tokyo recently which is published by Bethesda and it's a pretty good game, and let's not forget Prey which was an awesome game also published by Bethesda.
So tbey do get it right sometimes.
I didn't say they don't make good games. I said they drink the koolaid.
Context matters, and in the context of this thread (whether or not Bethesda games often have Denuvo) that means the anti-piracy "DRM is neat" koolaid (vs them avoiding DRM for self-developed games so they can be modded extensively).
WTF is/was this comment? It's killing me lol
Lol it was this "https://lemmy.zip/comment/2283511" /\ Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did. ", I tried to delete it but obviously not lol.
I would think that it's cheap availability on GamePass and likelihood of frequent updates would make for a muted response to this one.
Plus I don't think it was protected to start with for modding purposes. People will be flying around in Thomas the Tank Engine by the end of next week.
For these reasons, I'd rather buy Bethesda games. As a company, they aren't assholes. I'd hate for them to get bought out by ea or something like all the rest.
Yes, that would be terrible for them to be bought by somebody like MS.
While you're absolutely right to point out they have already been bought by Microsoft. I think we can all admit MS has had an unbelievably better track record with acquiring studios than EA.
Pretty low bar you've set there...
You forgot Fallout76 and their own shitty launcher, well and the fact that Microsoft bought them already...
And horse armour.
And all their attempts at turning modding into a walled garden they could control and profit from.
At least they don't tread modders like Rockstar, well at least not yet I guess.
My only beef with them is their complete disregard for QA but, in the end, they're right.
We'll do it for them.
Well, and watering down the social commentary in their Fallouts to an absurd degree.
Can't wait for Fallout 5 to say "AKSHUALLY, it was all China's fault and capitalism is based and Vault Tec was justified. Join the Brotherhood or die, trash."
Triangle For Enthusiastic Yes
Square For Nod Silently
As a company, they aren't assholes
It's just locker room sexual assault
Yes. Paid mods never existed.
As is Bethesda tradition.
I would think that it's cheap availability on GamePass and likelihood of frequent updates would make for a muted response to this one.
The performance is absolute crap I think everyone should pirate it just to send a message. Like holy crap it's awful.
I think I'd rather play something I enjoy instead.
I found an optimized ini file on nexusmods that has the game running real well and still looking pretty good.
Good lord though yeah the performance is awful.
"Cracked" meaning having replaced a dll file
Exactly; this just needed an emulator like goldberg
Bethesda games usually don't go for heavy DRM stuff (beyond the basic steam DRM), because it impairs modding (especially injection / nonofficial modding, stuff like SKSE for skyrim)
I have to applaud Bethesda for this decision, it is something that is very nice for the end user.
It really is a big move, since it likely cost them millions in early sales.
I probably would have bought it already if I couldn't find a crack, but now I can pirate and wait for a nice sale.
I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Tbh what you're doing is exactly what I did too with Skyrim. Downloaded a crack played for probably 1k hours and then bought it just to play 1k more
Doom Eternal has Denuvo.
It was developed by ID I believe, bethesda only published the game.
And is developed by ID software, not Bethesda Game Studios. Bethesda the publisher has different tactics when it comes to games not developed by BGS.
It had denuvo but the game shipped with a denuvo-less exe so it was "cracked" day 1 lol.
Mighta been the 2016 doom but regardless it was funny lol
They don't even replace the DLL file for you! After you run the RUNE installer, you have to copy the emulator yourself
You can just click the checkbox for "Copy crack to install directory" to get the installer to do everything for you.
I'm not sure why that isn't the default.
WTF?! The game is not even released on steam yet? Are they cracking the preloaded version?
AFAIK the digital deluxe edition allows you to start playing 5 days early.
There is no "play 5 days early". The game launched on 1st of September. But those who can't afford to shell out 100 Euros have to wait 5 more days. Microsoft did the same bullshit with Forza. I didn't like it back then, I won't like it now.
Why would you want to play a Bethesda game 5 days early? The best time is several months after release, when the community has had time to fix the bugs.
Can confirm. Started playing this morning.
What’s your opinion so far?
Skyrim in space. Exactly what I was hoping it would be.
Except when I stole some dude's sandwich, instead of being arrested he just said "Hey that's my sandwich!" And then sighed, defeated
Definitely a better experience already than Skyrim
Are there any small pets or chickens for you to murder and get a massive bounty on your head?
I was playing it last night on steam. I needed a new GPU recently and it came with a code to download it. 🤷♂️
Which GPU did you get?
For me, I got a Framework 16 and the GPU module came with a code.
There was a 5 day early access, at least on gamepass.
I have gamepass ultimate and it says I can’t play till the 6th
Have to buy deluxe. Timed exclusive bullshit.
Do you keep the game if you get the "Deluxe Upgrade" on GamePass? Or do you have to keep paying the subscription if you want to play?
No, not sure how they handle it. I think the upgrade applies to either a purchased version or Game Pass version, but if you don't buy or sub, you wasted $35
Eagerly waiting for the videos of every Starfield's fade-to-black screen transitioning back into Skyrim's opening
“Pirates? I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the gazillion sales we're about to make.” —Bethesda, probably
*Already made. They've got like 200k+ $100 deluxe version sales already, the base game hasn't even officially launched
The extra cost "early access" stuff just encourages piracy. I'm paying for gamepass, so I'm already paying for access in four days. I'm still tempted to pirate it. It's probably going to be a better product than dealing with Xbox crap on PC, but I could also play now.
Sixteen times the details
Hol-eee shit. My GTX 1070 doesn't meet minimum requirements...and it just won't boot? Oh wow.
It runs like absolute crap. I have a 2070 with i9-12900k and 64gb ram and get 30fps on the LOWEST settings. That's it.
I run Elden Ring at 120fps and just got done with Armored Core that ran at 144fps rock solid medium settings all the way through without a single blip.
Gamers nexus had gtx 1070 in their starfield performance review, so it can work on a 1070. 30fps on low settings I think though.
Who the hell are they expecting is going to play this game? Only trust fund kids?
Like have you seen hw prices lately? The prices of these class of card simply crashed through the ground. 1070 are very cheap, the rx470-480 is barely sellable trash. A lot of time had passed since the 10series...
Steam system requirements say RX5700 minimum. Recommended is RX6800XT, which was ludicrously expensive last I checked. Also I need a much newer CPU.
In this economy, that's gonna be a no from me.
We knew the game would be demanding when MS announced 30FPS only on both consoles. And this time it isn't a CPU bottleneck
But the 5700 is not an expensive gpu to buy second hand. Cpu asks for an ancient 6core or a 2nd gen ryzen. These aren't unreasonable specs in 2023. Time has moved on. Sorry.
Mind you I have an ancient 6core and a 1080 class card.
Dude, the 1080 came out in 2016, that was just... oh.
Adults with jobs?
I'm an adult with a job, and I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of affording the recommended system requirements for this game any time soon. RX6800XTs do not grow on trees.
The 1070 is the official minimum requirement.
1070Ti
If you've got windows 10 try updating to 22h2 (no, really; a consequence of Bethesda being acquired by Microsoft, I suspect), and update your GPU drivers.
That got it running on my 980ti, so it should also work with the 1070.
Or it's a consequence of the fact that all earlier windows 10 (non enterprise) versions are end of service.
I highly doubt it's done intentionally. 21H2 probably misses a feature or they just didn't care about 21H2 because why should they.
Yeah, I think it's probably having to do with how Wine/Lutris emulates the Windows version, that makes it think it's an older version. I'll try on a real Windows partition...
Did u try adding it as a non-steam game directly on Steam and not using Lutris? I've tried both on my EndeavourOS PC and find that for whatever reason, it runs much better via Steam vs Lutris.
Wonder if the cracked version crashes when starting a new game like the steam version does...
Kill any overlay apps like MSI. Process Explorer can crash it too. Just kill everything. Had this issue with FO76.
No overlays running, still crashes. I'm seeing quite a few people reporting this online, both with AMD and Nvidia, and of course Intel cards don't work at all on this game.
Is anybody on earth stupid enough to buy an Intel GPU?
Anyone who wants AC Mirage and Nightingale? Anyone who supports disrupting the duopoly that, driven by corporate greed, has effectively priced the "budget card" out of existence over the last decade? Those 2 are just off the top of my head.
If I was in the market for a GPU, I'd probably buy Intel Battlemage on principle. At least then I can criticize the current state of the GPU industry without being hypocritical.
Awful shortsighted of a comment from a self-proclaimed "Techmaster" lol
Guess I found one.
Devs: "it works fine on my machine". At this point games should just come with their own OSes. Or hardware. Hell, ship 'em like arcade boxes.
Imma wait for the fitgirl repack
fitgirl repack
Looks like it's already out.
yass already have it seeded
Well, that was quick!
The amount of leachers are a sight to see
The four day head start thing being bullshit was a good point. But yeah, I'm not likely to pirate an executable any time soon.
Time and money consuming, new hard drive, install windows, install the exe and check if that wasn't a malware, or a VM, GPU pass trough, install win and starfield
Yeah, this is probably the way I'd go about it. Dedicated hard drive, separate/no network access, no access to other files. Who cares if it is malware if it can't get to anything.
Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did.
None of them do. It would fuck with people's ability to make mods for them.
True. I guess I thought that because "ghost wire Tokyo" and "redfall" do. But makes sense for a game like starfield to not
redfall
Best copyright protection for Redfall is that the game is shit and nobody wants to play it.
Which sucks, because Arkane was one of my favorite developers before the quality of their output fell off over the past five years. I loved the Dishonored games, and Prey is the single best immersive sim ever made. I was looking forward to DeathLoop, but it ended up being kinda meh, and Redfall has been so universally panned that I haven't even bothered to try it.
I read that most of the people working there were kinda just hoping it would get canceled eventually. The game industry is so normal and fine.
Yeah those games are only published by Bethesda, not developed. Their in house games never have DRM, unless you count steam.
Bethesda is a publisher as well which explains that
Those aren't BGS games. Bethesda that developes =/= bethesda that publishes. The latter likes DRM
Not necessairly (well, goodbye to Starfield Script Extender in that case). But I think it's more that Gamebryo can't integrate Denuvo lol
It would also be unplayably slow. Bethesda games aren't known for performance even without Denuvo slowing them down.
Lets not pretend that there aren't Denuvo games without performance issues...
Unless I'm mistaken, Denuvo constantly encrypts and decrypts everything in the process' memory, including executable code, in order to conceal it. There is no way to do that without massive performance overhead.
There are uncracked Denuvo games to this day that don't have performance issues. Not everyone is incompetent in implementing it. That doesn't mean I'm defending it (but Reddit/Lemmy will like to take any sort of non-attack as defense sooooo), I'm just saying that there are Denuvo games that don't suffer performance issues.
Now imagine how fast they'd be without Denuvo.
Well we have many games that can be compared. Easiest is when the Steam version still has Denuvo for some reason but there is a GOG version
Bethesda Game Studios games don't have DRM like Denuvo. BGS and Bethesda Softworks are two different entities. ID, MachineGames and other Zenimax studios tend to have DRM, not BGS.
On the other hand, didn't Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched? So what would they even protect, 76?
No, Denuvo was first used in Sept. 2014 and Fallout 4 came out Nov. 2015.
Why did you start with No?
“Didn't Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched?”
“No, it came out a bit more than a year earlier.”
Ah. Well F4 didn't have it on launch
Steam/windows store drm it seems.
And even it's cracked from I won't be able to play it thanks to my old as system and my lack of will to purchase a new one untill it dies.
Haha I was thinking along similar lines, my R5 1600 is either going to take to it with it's usual shrug while it rolls up it's sleeves or just explode, it still punches way above it's weight so hopefully it won't explode but she's getting a bit long in the tooth.
Same 😭
Does this mean I can pirate it early? 😮
Yes, but it's huge, over 100GB. BG3 all over again!
It's up on IPT already
What is IPT?
IPTorrents, a private BitTorrent tracker.
Shhh
Something is available, whether or not its safe is another story.
I got nothing to care about. I can nuke my drives at any time and not feel the loss. Plus Dauphong has never let me down.
Alrighty well feel free to reach out, I'll be heading to bed in a second here but magnets are just so interesting it's worth discussing
Nothing popped up when scanning it. Not even the crack being flagged as a crack.
Game runs like ass tho. Everything but my GPU meets recommended. I still have a 1660 Super. Get anywhere between 30 and 60 with low settings, depending on where I am and what's going on. First game in a while to just cripple my shit. 😩
It's running well for SWIM but the hardware is a 5800X3D and a 3080 so it would be a shame if it didn't.
Some areas are another than others though, classic Skyrim
It's weird how being in a small room gets me about 32 fps, but then going outside into a forest I get 60. Usually it's the other way around, with interiors being the faster zone. 🤷🏻♂️
I've seen some others getting similar results on a 3080 with the same CPU (Rysen 5 3600X) I have though, so now I'm not even sure upgrading my hardware would make a difference and it's probably just classic Bethesda optimizations.
Huh, the game isn't even out yet. 🏴☠️ stay winning, I guess.
It's out on (paid) early access. Think that's how they got the game files lol.
As soon as anyone can download a game, all pirates can too (unless Denuvo)!
Is RUNE or IGGAMESCOM trustworthy?
Rune is. A lot of people don't like IGG, but I've never had a problem with it. You gotta be good at dealing with ads and such though.
RUNE cracked Baldur's Gate 3 recently.
Imagine cracking a game that's already on gog lmao
Your comment and username have made my day so far.
Glad I could brighten your day, friend :) Thanks for sharing
Which is DRM free...
I've never had a problem with them.
They fast as fuck. Another W for the pirates.
Thats nice. One question tho is rune codex now?
Since I saw on elamigos that rune/codex refere to the same people
The game is kinda meh from what I've seen? Any positive impressions?
The most positive I've heard is that it is a by the numbers Bethesda rpg game. It doesn't try to be anything more. If you liked fallout 4 and skyrim odds are you'll like this.
What if I liked FO3 and New Vegas and hated FO4?
Then you have good taste in games.
What if I liked Fallout 76?
Nobody's perfect.
Then you are objectively right
FO3 was kind of a disaster in terms of narrative and roleplay. And the established world building.
They got rid of the dialogue wheel and went back to a list of options (influenced by character background / skills), so at least there's that, I suppose.
Then wait a few months and check some of the in-depth reviews before investing your time. Bethesda's most well known for its looter shooters with RPG styling.
I imagine this will follow in similar footsteps. It'll be well designed, well armed, but it's not going to be an RPG where your decisions have lasting impact. But hopefully I'm wrong
I’ve heard nothing but good things about gameplay. But it runs like shit on most systems. A RTX 3080 at 1440p ultra can’t get 60 fps in cities.
Still downloading for me, but I see more than one review saying it takes a long time to get good. I'm keeping my expectations low.
EDIT: Glad I was warned it starts slow. It does get better if you stick with it.
EDIT 2: It entertained me for a week. It's no Skyrim, or even Fallout. I would have been pissed if I'd paid for it.
Totally agree on the paycheck. However we need to stop acting like piracy is bad only. Buy the things you really enjoy and support the creator(s).
Back in the days a friend suggested i buy Skyrim and i was like: "Uuh not sure if i want to spend that kind of money on a 2yo game". But since he was quite a fan, i pirated it. Soon after I bought the LE version and today it is still my most played game.
NGL: i also pirated many things of which i never bought the original version. But because of the bay i also bought some things i most likely wouldn't have without.
Yup.
I was vaguely interested in Dark Souls for years, but every time I tried, I bounced right off it. I went through a cycle where every year or two, I would pirate one of the souls games, try it out, give up on it after an hour or so, and do it all over again the next time I was sufficiently compelled to give the series another shot. This happened until several years ago when I tried Dark Souls II, and for some reason it finally clicked. I played my pirated copy of Dark Souls II for about 10 hours, before a random crash corrupted my save file.
After that happened, I immediately bought the game on Steam and proceeded to play it for the next month and a half, until I eventually beat it. I've since purchased every souls game plus Elden Ring on Steam, and recently imported a copy of Bloodborne GOTY edition after spending $700 on an exploitable PS5, just so I could play it at 60FPS. None of these legitimate purchases would have ever happened if I hadn't been able to repeatedly pirate Dark Souls for about five years.
I don't think piracy is bad lol i do think mega corporate publishers have bad practices for sure. Like cool, the one i worked for is publicly traded. Awesome. Every action is greed motivated. I hate that.
Every time i loose hope in games i just play undertale and ignore the world. >.>
I agree with you, but I think both of us about to be downvoted by these cheapskates lol
I've thought about this. I think that happened was because of timelines, they released a super early build, fuckin producers.
It's not the worst thing for an early access game to be cracked, honestly. If the game is has more eyes, that's great. I am curious about what is out now however.
I am also curious about if the cracked version can be updated with content once the game goes live. Like i have no idea when that is or if it has already happened.
Can anyone give me a full guide on how to get this to work on Linux(Arch btw), since I have absolutely no clue on how to do this stuff.
It's super easy. I just added it as a non steam game in my library and it worked. It also works on Lutris using a default wine context. I've been playing it and I'm on EndeavourOS (Arch)
Did you run into a case where a RX5700 was detected as unsupported?
No I didn't face that. And I'm running an AMD 5700 XT
There are endless guides already written out there,
just search for "Lutris" or "Bottles".
Anyone know if save game files from the cracked version (aka Steam version) can be transferred to the GamePass version?
I don't know why you'd want to rent the game if you've already got the cracked copy, but I would be surprised if the save files were any different between the two platforms.
Because it's a supported copy that I know is getting the latest patches and I'm already paying for it...? Also, as long as I can transfer save files, I could use them down the line on a sale copy on Steam for Steam Deck or whatever else.
Is there a torrent somewhere....?
resources in the Megathread link pinned to the community can lead you there.
I got installed the game, when i start it steam opens up and give a "no license" prompt
I forgot to tick a box that copies the crack install dir
you probably didn't copy the crack over
Install the crack on top of it
Can't play because nvidia. So great
Can you give a link please?thx
Check megathread on sidebar.
Would be awesome if someone made a mod that would make this the main loading screen
DODI-REPACKS.
Not sure why these assholes here are acting like this is reddit where the sub could be shut down. The dude runs his own instance..
Why I was down voted to hell wtf? We can t demand link on a piracy sub?-?
I just readed the rules wtf . no link on a piracy sub . for me there is no interest in it if I have to research my torrent myself .
I really felt cheated that no one was insulted, no rants were frothed, no theories conspiracied in this nfo. All we got was relevant information and kindness.
I'm kidding obvs
Bland release notes.
I wanted some spicy ✨bipolar ranting✨
Not even transphobia? But how will I justify my Vtuber hatemail now? /jk
Starfield and Friends
I can hear it
Stars are there...
We're ready to party, we're ready
John...I'm watching you...
Thank you for sharing
I love that pirate groups still use ascii text art in their release notes. It’s like a little piece of the world that hasn’t changed in 30 years.
I need to find out how to make these. Mostly just cause I like it.
On Linux, you'll want to install figlet and toilet (both available in the debian repos)
Alternatively you've got this online frontend
If you really want to get weird with it you can also play any video in ascii art through libcaca and mplayer. Looks like this
I know you're 100% serious, but this sentence sounds so made up and hilarious
I use
Arch btwEndeavour OS so don't have Debian repos but I will definitely check them out. I especially like the fancy dark mode.I just checked and figlet at least appears to be in the arch repositories as well
Thanks, I will check it out tomorrow. I uave used pyfiglet in the past tbf so I figured it woukd be available either via the official repos or the AUR.
it's typically just a kind of pixel art with monospaced fonts¹. any characters you see that's not typically shown on your keyboard (e.g a filled square) can be found in a character selection program in your OS. anything else related to texts, templating and line breaks you can probably find a program somewhere on places like crates.io or gitlab or write something of your own without much trouble.
¹ a monospaced font is a font where every letter and character has the same spacing from each other, and are the easiest to do ascii art. (ascii is just one character table, but you can also gather unicode chars all you want)
And still include cheesy mp3s playing too loud in retro-futuristic-looking installers
The music in the installers is the best part about installing cracks
The track included in the Rune installer for Starfield was actually a banger
I pirated a cracked version of Adobe Acrobat Pro recently. First thing I had to crack in years. It had a sketchy crack installer , with music and everything. Like it was back in the 90s. Of course it worked perfectly lol.
Chiptune/tracker/keygen music will all hold a special place in my heart.
I love that the installer has a cracktro, that's the real good stuff.
I bopped to that shit for ages.
I really like the chip tunes, but I think they are not creating them anymore in the authentic way
Oh my too!
Somehow I expect hackers to do cooler stuff these days. I want hackers to release a Switch version of the game.
It can barely run on a gtx1070 man what kind of black magic do you expect a hacker to cast to make it run on a Switch
Im not pre-ordering piracy either.
Im waiting for the reviews.
The review embargo was lifted with the start of the early access, meaning that all the regular review channels that received review copies have already posted their content.
That's not "pre-ordering". Go write the reviews
Reviews hit yesterday, check your preferred gaming sites
Go watch people actually play it in twitch or steam or YouTube. See if you like it. Why wait for someone else's opinion?
And also, the "early access" is just a way to get people to pay more for the game in the first week.
By all reasonable standards, the game has been fully released.
"Pre-ordering piracy"... What does that even mean?
To be fair it's the exact same bypass as any other Steam game. Any steam emulator would work.
Bethesda the publisher does things differently than Bethesda the developer.
As a dev, they know their modding communities keep their games alive long, long past their expiration dates and will fuck with them as little as they possibly can - this takes them from games to household names to legends that everyone knows.
As a publisher pushing products that aren't intended to be modded, they drink the koolaid.
I disagree about the publishing side somewhat, every now and then the publishing team hits a home run. Like I've been playing Ghostwire: Tokyo recently which is published by Bethesda and it's a pretty good game, and let's not forget Prey which was an awesome game also published by Bethesda.
So tbey do get it right sometimes.
I didn't say they don't make good games. I said they drink the koolaid.
Context matters, and in the context of this thread (whether or not Bethesda games often have Denuvo) that means the anti-piracy "DRM is neat" koolaid (vs them avoiding DRM for self-developed games so they can be modded extensively).
WTF is/was this comment? It's killing me lol
Lol it was this "https://lemmy.zip/comment/2283511" /\ Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did. ", I tried to delete it but obviously not lol.
I would think that it's cheap availability on GamePass and likelihood of frequent updates would make for a muted response to this one.
Plus I don't think it was protected to start with for modding purposes. People will be flying around in Thomas the Tank Engine by the end of next week.
For these reasons, I'd rather buy Bethesda games. As a company, they aren't assholes. I'd hate for them to get bought out by ea or something like all the rest.
Yes, that would be terrible for them to be bought by somebody like MS.
While you're absolutely right to point out they have already been bought by Microsoft. I think we can all admit MS has had an unbelievably better track record with acquiring studios than EA.
Pretty low bar you've set there...
You forgot Fallout76 and their own shitty launcher, well and the fact that Microsoft bought them already...
And horse armour.
And all their attempts at turning modding into a walled garden they could control and profit from.
At least they don't tread modders like Rockstar, well at least not yet I guess.
My only beef with them is their complete disregard for QA but, in the end, they're right.
We'll do it for them.
Well, and watering down the social commentary in their Fallouts to an absurd degree.
Can't wait for Fallout 5 to say "AKSHUALLY, it was all China's fault and capitalism is based and Vault Tec was justified. Join the Brotherhood or die, trash."
Triangle For Enthusiastic Yes Square For Nod Silently
It's just locker room sexual assault
Yes. Paid mods never existed.
As is Bethesda tradition.
The performance is absolute crap I think everyone should pirate it just to send a message. Like holy crap it's awful.
I think I'd rather play something I enjoy instead.
I found an optimized ini file on nexusmods that has the game running real well and still looking pretty good. Good lord though yeah the performance is awful.
"Cracked" meaning having replaced a dll file
Exactly; this just needed an emulator like goldberg
Bethesda games usually don't go for heavy DRM stuff (beyond the basic steam DRM), because it impairs modding (especially injection / nonofficial modding, stuff like SKSE for skyrim)
I have to applaud Bethesda for this decision, it is something that is very nice for the end user.
It really is a big move, since it likely cost them millions in early sales.
I probably would have bought it already if I couldn't find a crack, but now I can pirate and wait for a nice sale.
I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Tbh what you're doing is exactly what I did too with Skyrim. Downloaded a crack played for probably 1k hours and then bought it just to play 1k more
Doom Eternal has Denuvo.
It was developed by ID I believe, bethesda only published the game.
And is developed by ID software, not Bethesda Game Studios. Bethesda the publisher has different tactics when it comes to games not developed by BGS.
It had denuvo but the game shipped with a denuvo-less exe so it was "cracked" day 1 lol.
Mighta been the 2016 doom but regardless it was funny lol
They don't even replace the DLL file for you! After you run the RUNE installer, you have to copy the emulator yourself
You can just click the checkbox for "Copy crack to install directory" to get the installer to do everything for you.
I'm not sure why that isn't the default.
WTF?! The game is not even released on steam yet? Are they cracking the preloaded version?
AFAIK the digital deluxe edition allows you to start playing 5 days early.
There is no "play 5 days early". The game launched on 1st of September. But those who can't afford to shell out 100 Euros have to wait 5 more days. Microsoft did the same bullshit with Forza. I didn't like it back then, I won't like it now.
Why would you want to play a Bethesda game 5 days early? The best time is several months after release, when the community has had time to fix the bugs.
Can confirm. Started playing this morning.
What’s your opinion so far?
Skyrim in space. Exactly what I was hoping it would be.
Except when I stole some dude's sandwich, instead of being arrested he just said "Hey that's my sandwich!" And then sighed, defeated
Definitely a better experience already than Skyrim
Are there any small pets or chickens for you to murder and get a massive bounty on your head?
I was playing it last night on steam. I needed a new GPU recently and it came with a code to download it. 🤷♂️
Which GPU did you get?
For me, I got a Framework 16 and the GPU module came with a code.
There was a 5 day early access, at least on gamepass.
I have gamepass ultimate and it says I can’t play till the 6th
Have to buy deluxe. Timed exclusive bullshit.
Do you keep the game if you get the "Deluxe Upgrade" on GamePass? Or do you have to keep paying the subscription if you want to play?
No, not sure how they handle it. I think the upgrade applies to either a purchased version or Game Pass version, but if you don't buy or sub, you wasted $35
Eagerly waiting for the videos of every Starfield's fade-to-black screen transitioning back into Skyrim's opening
“Pirates? I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the gazillion sales we're about to make.” —Bethesda, probably
*Already made. They've got like 200k+ $100 deluxe version sales already, the base game hasn't even officially launched
The extra cost "early access" stuff just encourages piracy. I'm paying for gamepass, so I'm already paying for access in four days. I'm still tempted to pirate it. It's probably going to be a better product than dealing with Xbox crap on PC, but I could also play now.
Sixteen times the detailsHol-eee shit. My GTX 1070 doesn't meet minimum requirements...and it just won't boot? Oh wow.
It runs like absolute crap. I have a 2070 with i9-12900k and 64gb ram and get 30fps on the LOWEST settings. That's it.
I run Elden Ring at 120fps and just got done with Armored Core that ran at 144fps rock solid medium settings all the way through without a single blip.
The performance is unbelievably atrocious.
Gamers nexus had gtx 1070 in their starfield performance review, so it can work on a 1070. 30fps on low settings I think though.
Who the hell are they expecting is going to play this game? Only trust fund kids?
Like have you seen hw prices lately? The prices of these class of card simply crashed through the ground. 1070 are very cheap, the rx470-480 is barely sellable trash. A lot of time had passed since the 10series...
Steam system requirements say RX5700 minimum. Recommended is RX6800XT, which was ludicrously expensive last I checked. Also I need a much newer CPU.
In this economy, that's gonna be a no from me.
We knew the game would be demanding when MS announced 30FPS only on both consoles. And this time it isn't a CPU bottleneck
But the 5700 is not an expensive gpu to buy second hand. Cpu asks for an ancient 6core or a 2nd gen ryzen. These aren't unreasonable specs in 2023. Time has moved on. Sorry.
Mind you I have an ancient 6core and a 1080 class card.
Dude, the 1080 came out in 2016, that was just... oh.
Adults with jobs?
I'm an adult with a job, and I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of affording the recommended system requirements for this game any time soon. RX6800XTs do not grow on trees.
The 1070 is the official minimum requirement.
1070Ti
If you've got windows 10 try updating to 22h2 (no, really; a consequence of Bethesda being acquired by Microsoft, I suspect), and update your GPU drivers.
That got it running on my 980ti, so it should also work with the 1070.
Or it's a consequence of the fact that all earlier windows 10 (non enterprise) versions are end of service.
I highly doubt it's done intentionally. 21H2 probably misses a feature or they just didn't care about 21H2 because why should they.
Yeah, I think it's probably having to do with how Wine/Lutris emulates the Windows version, that makes it think it's an older version. I'll try on a real Windows partition...
Did u try adding it as a non-steam game directly on Steam and not using Lutris? I've tried both on my EndeavourOS PC and find that for whatever reason, it runs much better via Steam vs Lutris.
It'll burn your house down
fr: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux\_gaming/comments/166xnai/starfield\_just\_made\_my\_gpu\_catch\_on\_fire/
Been trying to run it on an rx480 and it hiccups and crashes so much lol
Wonder if the cracked version crashes when starting a new game like the steam version does...
Kill any overlay apps like MSI. Process Explorer can crash it too. Just kill everything. Had this issue with FO76.
No overlays running, still crashes. I'm seeing quite a few people reporting this online, both with AMD and Nvidia, and of course Intel cards don't work at all on this game.
Is anybody on earth stupid enough to buy an Intel GPU?
Anyone who wants AC Mirage and Nightingale? Anyone who supports disrupting the duopoly that, driven by corporate greed, has effectively priced the "budget card" out of existence over the last decade? Those 2 are just off the top of my head.
If I was in the market for a GPU, I'd probably buy Intel Battlemage on principle. At least then I can criticize the current state of the GPU industry without being hypocritical.
Awful shortsighted of a comment from a self-proclaimed "Techmaster" lol
Guess I found one.
Devs: "it works fine on my machine". At this point games should just come with their own OSes. Or hardware. Hell, ship 'em like arcade boxes.
Imma wait for the fitgirl repack
Looks like it's already out.
yass already have it seeded
Well, that was quick!
The amount of leachers are a sight to see
The four day head start thing being bullshit was a good point. But yeah, I'm not likely to pirate an executable any time soon.
Time and money consuming, new hard drive, install windows, install the exe and check if that wasn't a malware, or a VM, GPU pass trough, install win and starfield
Yeah, this is probably the way I'd go about it. Dedicated hard drive, separate/no network access, no access to other files. Who cares if it is malware if it can't get to anything.
Did starfield not have denuvo drm. I thought most Bethesda games did.
None of them do. It would fuck with people's ability to make mods for them.
True. I guess I thought that because "ghost wire Tokyo" and "redfall" do. But makes sense for a game like starfield to not
Best copyright protection for Redfall is that the game is shit and nobody wants to play it.
Which sucks, because Arkane was one of my favorite developers before the quality of their output fell off over the past five years. I loved the Dishonored games, and Prey is the single best immersive sim ever made. I was looking forward to DeathLoop, but it ended up being kinda meh, and Redfall has been so universally panned that I haven't even bothered to try it.
I read that most of the people working there were kinda just hoping it would get canceled eventually. The game industry is so normal and fine.
Yeah those games are only published by Bethesda, not developed. Their in house games never have DRM, unless you count steam.
Bethesda is a publisher as well which explains that
Those aren't BGS games. Bethesda that developes =/= bethesda that publishes. The latter likes DRM
Not necessairly (well, goodbye to Starfield Script Extender in that case). But I think it's more that Gamebryo can't integrate Denuvo lol
It would also be unplayably slow. Bethesda games aren't known for performance even without Denuvo slowing them down.
Lets not pretend that there aren't Denuvo games without performance issues...
Unless I'm mistaken, Denuvo constantly encrypts and decrypts everything in the process' memory, including executable code, in order to conceal it. There is no way to do that without massive performance overhead.
There are uncracked Denuvo games to this day that don't have performance issues. Not everyone is incompetent in implementing it. That doesn't mean I'm defending it (but Reddit/Lemmy will like to take any sort of non-attack as defense sooooo), I'm just saying that there are Denuvo games that don't suffer performance issues.
Now imagine how fast they'd be without Denuvo.
Well we have many games that can be compared. Easiest is when the Steam version still has Denuvo for some reason but there is a GOG version
Bethesda Game Studios games don't have DRM like Denuvo. BGS and Bethesda Softworks are two different entities. ID, MachineGames and other Zenimax studios tend to have DRM, not BGS.
On the other hand, didn't Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched? So what would they even protect, 76?
No, Denuvo was first used in Sept. 2014 and Fallout 4 came out Nov. 2015.
Why did you start with No?
“Didn't Denuvo come out after Fallout 4 launched?”
“No, it came out a bit more than a year earlier.”
Ah. Well F4 didn't have it on launch
Steam/windows store drm it seems.
And even it's cracked from I won't be able to play it thanks to my old as system and my lack of will to purchase a new one untill it dies.
Haha I was thinking along similar lines, my R5 1600 is either going to take to it with it's usual shrug while it rolls up it's sleeves or just explode, it still punches way above it's weight so hopefully it won't explode but she's getting a bit long in the tooth.
Same 😭
Does this mean I can pirate it early? 😮
Yes, but it's huge, over 100GB. BG3 all over again!
It's up on IPT already
What is IPT?
IPTorrents, a private BitTorrent tracker.
Shhh
Something is available, whether or not its safe is another story.
I got nothing to care about. I can nuke my drives at any time and not feel the loss. Plus Dauphong has never let me down.
Alrighty well feel free to reach out, I'll be heading to bed in a second here but magnets are just so interesting it's worth discussing
Nothing popped up when scanning it. Not even the crack being flagged as a crack.
Game runs like ass tho. Everything but my GPU meets recommended. I still have a 1660 Super. Get anywhere between 30 and 60 with low settings, depending on where I am and what's going on. First game in a while to just cripple my shit. 😩
It's running well for SWIM but the hardware is a 5800X3D and a 3080 so it would be a shame if it didn't.
Some areas are another than others though, classic Skyrim
It's weird how being in a small room gets me about 32 fps, but then going outside into a forest I get 60. Usually it's the other way around, with interiors being the faster zone. 🤷🏻♂️
I've seen some others getting similar results on a 3080 with the same CPU (Rysen 5 3600X) I have though, so now I'm not even sure upgrading my hardware would make a difference and it's probably just classic Bethesda optimizations.
Huh, the game isn't even out yet. 🏴☠️ stay winning, I guess.
It's out on (paid) early access. Think that's how they got the game files lol.
As soon as anyone can download a game, all pirates can too (unless Denuvo)!
Is RUNE or IGGAMESCOM trustworthy?
Rune is. A lot of people don't like IGG, but I've never had a problem with it. You gotta be good at dealing with ads and such though.
RUNE cracked Baldur's Gate 3 recently.
Imagine cracking a game that's already on gog lmao
Your comment and username have made my day so far.
Glad I could brighten your day, friend :) Thanks for sharing
Which is DRM free...
I've never had a problem with them.
They fast as fuck. Another W for the pirates.
Thats nice. One question tho is rune codex now? Since I saw on elamigos that rune/codex refere to the same people
The game is kinda meh from what I've seen? Any positive impressions?
The most positive I've heard is that it is a by the numbers Bethesda rpg game. It doesn't try to be anything more. If you liked fallout 4 and skyrim odds are you'll like this.
What if I liked FO3 and New Vegas and hated FO4?
Then you have good taste in games.
What if I liked Fallout 76?
Nobody's perfect.
Then you are objectively right
FO3 was kind of a disaster in terms of narrative and roleplay. And the established world building.
They got rid of the dialogue wheel and went back to a list of options (influenced by character background / skills), so at least there's that, I suppose.
Then wait a few months and check some of the in-depth reviews before investing your time. Bethesda's most well known for its looter shooters with RPG styling.
I imagine this will follow in similar footsteps. It'll be well designed, well armed, but it's not going to be an RPG where your decisions have lasting impact. But hopefully I'm wrong
I’ve heard nothing but good things about gameplay. But it runs like shit on most systems. A RTX 3080 at 1440p ultra can’t get 60 fps in cities.
Still downloading for me, but I see more than one review saying it takes a long time to get good. I'm keeping my expectations low.
EDIT: Glad I was warned it starts slow. It does get better if you stick with it.
EDIT 2: It entertained me for a week. It's no Skyrim, or even Fallout. I would have been pissed if I'd paid for it.
Awe as a dev this kind of bums me out a little. I wonder that they used for DRM. Those sales go directly to the devs in way of raises and retention.
Granted this is not EA where i worked, but if you enjoy the game, i encourage you to buy it.
Also NOTE: I DO NOT SUPPORT DRM, just the pay checks of the devs as i was one for quite some time.
You realize this is a forum, actually a whole instance, that centers around piracy, right?
Yeah! You also realize this is a group full of intelligent people right? It's the whole reason why i chose this instance.
Intelligent enough not to pirate?
Totally agree on the paycheck. However we need to stop acting like piracy is bad only. Buy the things you really enjoy and support the creator(s).
Back in the days a friend suggested i buy Skyrim and i was like: "Uuh not sure if i want to spend that kind of money on a 2yo game". But since he was quite a fan, i pirated it. Soon after I bought the LE version and today it is still my most played game.
NGL: i also pirated many things of which i never bought the original version. But because of the bay i also bought some things i most likely wouldn't have without.
Yup.
I was vaguely interested in Dark Souls for years, but every time I tried, I bounced right off it. I went through a cycle where every year or two, I would pirate one of the souls games, try it out, give up on it after an hour or so, and do it all over again the next time I was sufficiently compelled to give the series another shot. This happened until several years ago when I tried Dark Souls II, and for some reason it finally clicked. I played my pirated copy of Dark Souls II for about 10 hours, before a random crash corrupted my save file.
After that happened, I immediately bought the game on Steam and proceeded to play it for the next month and a half, until I eventually beat it. I've since purchased every souls game plus Elden Ring on Steam, and recently imported a copy of Bloodborne GOTY edition after spending $700 on an exploitable PS5, just so I could play it at 60FPS. None of these legitimate purchases would have ever happened if I hadn't been able to repeatedly pirate Dark Souls for about five years.
I don't think piracy is bad lol i do think mega corporate publishers have bad practices for sure. Like cool, the one i worked for is publicly traded. Awesome. Every action is greed motivated. I hate that.
Every time i loose hope in games i just play undertale and ignore the world. >.>
I agree with you, but I think both of us about to be downvoted by these cheapskates lol
I've thought about this. I think that happened was because of timelines, they released a super early build, fuckin producers.
It's not the worst thing for an early access game to be cracked, honestly. If the game is has more eyes, that's great. I am curious about what is out now however.
I am also curious about if the cracked version can be updated with content once the game goes live. Like i have no idea when that is or if it has already happened.
Can anyone give me a full guide on how to get this to work on Linux(Arch btw), since I have absolutely no clue on how to do this stuff.
It's super easy. I just added it as a non steam game in my library and it worked. It also works on Lutris using a default wine context. I've been playing it and I'm on EndeavourOS (Arch)
Did you run into a case where a RX5700 was detected as unsupported?
No I didn't face that. And I'm running an AMD 5700 XT
There are endless guides already written out there, just search for "Lutris" or "Bottles".
Anyone know if save game files from the cracked version (aka Steam version) can be transferred to the GamePass version?
I don't know why you'd want to rent the game if you've already got the cracked copy, but I would be surprised if the save files were any different between the two platforms.
Because it's a supported copy that I know is getting the latest patches and I'm already paying for it...? Also, as long as I can transfer save files, I could use them down the line on a sale copy on Steam for Steam Deck or whatever else.
Is there a torrent somewhere....?
resources in the Megathread link pinned to the community can lead you there.
I got installed the game, when i start it steam opens up and give a "no license" prompt
I forgot to tick a box that copies the crack install dir
you probably didn't copy the crack over
Install the crack on top of it
Can't play because nvidia. So great
Can you give a link please?thx
Check megathread on sidebar.
Would be awesome if someone made a mod that would make this the main loading screen
DODI-REPACKS.
Not sure why these assholes here are acting like this is reddit where the sub could be shut down. The dude runs his own instance..
Why I was down voted to hell wtf? We can t demand link on a piracy sub?-?
I just readed the rules wtf . no link on a piracy sub . for me there is no interest in it if I have to research my torrent myself .
Fuck off and look yourself
EDIT: stay mad lmfao
Name checks out
Completely