...so they got rid of awards in favor of adding arrow shaped awards?
“Supports the creators” makes me think they have a revenue split and they got rid of the old system to prevent people from not knowing the difference
Yeah this also conveniently happens after they made everyone's Reddit Gold invalid. Pretty damn shady if you ask me.
Need influencers if they are going to IPO
Don’t want to lose money by having to split something people bought a year ago
"supports the creators?" like the person who created the comment gets paid? probably not. I've made zillions of witty upvoted comments and I haven't earned a dime. Where does that money go? Into spez's pockets.
Supposedly you can cash these golds out if you get 10 of them, at a rate of $1 per gold, as long as you live in the US. I figure that the left-most gild is equivalent to 1 gold, so Reddit is keeping roughly 70% of the money you pay through this system.
Oh great. More incentives for bots to run rampant and rehash old posts and comments...
Maybe its time to start botting on reddit
The "levels" doesn't even make any sense, a splink of different color?
What a lol.
Yes, but do you see the last one!? It is colorful on the outside and golden on the INSIDE
🖕🖕🏻🖕🏼🖕🏽🖕🏾🖕🏿
I appreciate your commitment to inclusion.
Hatred of reddit is accepted by all
"Fingering supports the contributors you love."
Is this real?
Yeah:
Giving gold supports the creators you love
I'm not going back to Reddit to find the answer but does any of this money actually go to the creators of the post that gets gold?
If they get at least 10 gold awarded to them within 12 months, and meet the karma/yr threshold, and stay in "good standing" , and aren't nsfw, and any number of the other thresholds Reddit could use to say no, then they might get ~50% of the price paid to award it. Otherwise Reddit just keeps it all.
Investors be like
So someone has to work at this for a year before getting paid anything when they start out? Am I getting this right?
The 12 month thing isn't a limit as far as I can tell. More that anything beyond that doesn't count. So if you ended up meeting all the requirements within a day somehow, it would trigger then.
They don't get money, they get exposure which is more valuable than money anyway /s in case it wasn't obvious
Exposure is something people can die from.
Like Paul Smith who lives in Wegstraße 42, 12345 Berlin, Germany. He blocked me but don't send him death threats because of it.
Support as in the 'stroke the ego' sense not 'help financially put food on the table and heat their home' sense
I would really like to see lemmy add a 'direct donation' button to post and comments that links to their paypal or whatever. I think throwing a dollar or two directly at the person who made the comment or post you really liked is an infinitely better way to support them than throwing that money at a company so that they can award a shiny digital icon above the post.
While I like the sentiment, in reality I think it would do the same thing as it's doing on Reddit - turn Lemmy into a huge bot farm trying to get money from real users.
This is a great point, I did not think about that. Thanks
Creators on reddit?
Wait, that explains soo much of their terrible UI changes ocer the years!
On old reddit, usernames, while displayed, are in reality semi hidden, it uses tiny text that blends in the rest of the text.
This is terrible for creators, their name is their brand, and if they don't get exposure of it on their content, they will leave.
This is why new reddit made usernames slightly more prominent, and also started pushing avatars, they want more big creators, that they expect will bring in their audience, an audience that is trained to want to support their creator.
This is turning reddit from a vibrant community to a generic social media site, a checkbox for what a creator is expected to have...
No
They do, actually. Eligible creators (basically you have to live in the US, be over 18 and have made at least 100 karma in the last 12 months) can claim 33% of the money spent on the gold.
Please don’t just say “no” to a question without actually doing research. Disliking a platform isn’t a reason to spread misinformation about it.
Theoretically, yes. Supposedly (If you live in the US) you can cash out $0.90 for every ‘gold’ you receive. In the image, the leftmost golden upvote is worth one ‘gold’, and the rightmost is worth 25. This means that one gold is bought for $2.69, so the post creator can claim 33% of that money back if they are eligible. https://www.reddit.com/contributor-program
Remember to always tip your celebrities for promoting whatever dumb projects on on your Internet forums, god knows we could use the money.
::: spoiler spoiler
THAT WAS SARCASM
:::
Yeah but can we get back to talking about I Don't Even Remember The Name Oh Wait Rampart
You mean Barbie, right?
Because my movies are the only commercial interests permitted on Lemmy. Look at the banner of this community!
AMAs aren't just marketing, now they're money makers themselves!
It's honestly pretty insulting.
They could hardly make it more explicit that reddit is profiting off content members create.
I'm not one for circle jerking but reddit is objectively becoming a shittier platform
I feel like all of them kinda are
Youtube and Discord conveniently added user tags for no reason literally the moment Twitter went down the already pretty deep hole.
Twitch's favorite pastime is making bank on "unrelated" content
Facebook is just Facebook
Reddit has been constantly losing its appeal every year ever since they moved off the old layout.
Everyone adding/changing things in some meager attempt to drive profits and value without considering effects of user loss because social media is such an oligopoly it doesn't matter.
Hiroshima has completely given up on ever making 4chan profitable, so it's still full of porn and casual racism.
Hiroshima has completely given up on ever making 4chan profitable, so it’s still full of unfiltered organic discussion, porn. funny shitposting and couple of unobtrusive banner ads.
As low-brow as it can get, 4chan is still part of the solution, unlike plebbit.
Reddit really has become everything that Reddit used to hate.
Love the desperate grab for revenue prior to IPO.
Too bad the ransomware is getting leaked as soon as they announce the IPO date.
Spez, you done played yourself.
Go on...
"prior to ipo" for the last four(teen) years
When I used to have gold to gild, I would always give it to the stupidest comment, like the most childish shit ever, if you had a poop joke or something, I'd give you gold, most of the time people would join in and gild the dumb comment.
Man if I'd have found this out back then I'd have ranted at you for ruining reddit.
That was before reddit ruined reddit
They're paying the user this money or this is just for a fancy little icon next to the post like reddit gold used to be?
It's literally just reddit currency for their shitty premium
Oh, just more bullshit then. Thanks for clarifying.
They are paying eligible users based on karma and gold.
Of course, the program is more of a "see, we have something" than a proper revenue share because of the "get at least 10 gold" criterium and all the other hoops you have to jump through.
Thank you for the correct answer! I would have gone on believing a lie had you not responded. Here's their payout table:
Contributor Tier
Karma (Over 12 mo period)
Payout Rate (Dollars per Gold)
Minimum Gold for payout
Non-contributor
0-99 Karma
No payout; balance rolls over
n/a
Contributor
100-4999 Karma
$0.90 per 1 Gold
10
Top contributor
5000+ Karma
$1.00 per 1 Gold
10
So they charge $2.69-$66.99 for gilding and only give the contributor $0.90-$1, keeping the rest. Wow, sounds like a shit deal for everyone but Reddit.
So basically this will give a very small handful of gallowboob-scale karma whores maybe a thousand dollars a year.
Assuming users are willing to pay for comments. I'd expect far fewer awards to be handed out now that they cost dollars.
$0.90 per gold ?
I mean shouldn't that gave been:
$0.90 ger dollar given by golds?
Anyway, it smells like the large majority will work and get nothing, some "pro" accounts will maybe.
Reddit was mainly driven by lots of small 'content-creators' (I hate that word so much) like ordinary people sharing and helping.
Cheers to you all making posts and comments here (and well anywhere actually, because IMO it benefits humanity mostly).
I think the higher amounts in OP's pic are multiples of "gold" (with $66.99 being 25 gold) and assume the payout would change per gold for what seems like a different currency than what that table is for (where 1 gold is $1.99 USD).
All that said, Reddit hasn't really given any reason to give them the benefit of the doubt here, either, so it could very well be $1 per award no matter the amount paid for it.
with $66.99 being 25 gold
so they keep 60+%. I am not sure why people willing to support someone won't do it directly vs giving a high percentage to a middle man.
You get $0.90 per gold - the fancier golden upvotes are worth multiple gold, with the most expensive one being worth 25 gold. So the post creator can claim 33% back
In all my years in reddit I only got gold once. The prerequisites of needing 10 is just bonkers.
After 10 years, approaching a million comment karma, and many sourced write-ups and copy pastas I got a fair amount. Probably 200 of a mixture of gold and the occasional platinum. This was concentrated in later years as I better understood reddit, and understood specific audiences more. I strove to give genuinely good information, too.
Unfortunately reddit's admins are lazy, suck, and some subs' moderators even worse (looking at r/news) and they screwed me. Their loss. I'll find another platform to publish content, like here of course and elsewhere.
Right, so in a good year, you'd have gotten some beer money from it. And in return, you'd have to give reddit your real name and credit card information.
This is honestly even more pathetic than I ever imagined it could have been. Reddit is trying to emulate the "influencer" model from other social media, but doesn't want to actually pony up cash to do it. YouTube has bought Mr Beast like six(?) houses at this point. Reddit won't even buy your friends a round at the local pub.
Right. Unless you're a complete power-user whose entire life revolves around reddit, even the it's a massive risk akin to saying, "I'm going to go start a successful YouTube channel!" (which would still be a better venture).
I usually get "gold" by complaining about how admins / employees can give it out for free to drum up interest.
My biggest gold events were saying "don't buy gold" during Paomageddon. To think, I would have almost gotten enough money to cover the Uber ride to the bank!
Did you follow niche subs? I noticed when I was more active in default subs, I got gold more often. As the default subs got less bearable and I shifted towards smaller communities, I barely got gold anymore.
Or maybe the quality of my posts just became shit.
Depends if I was just looking to karma whore or just shitpost for fun. When I was trying I could easily rack up karma. But even so it's a lot of work.
Nah makes perfect sense, they don't wanna have to pay out.
So, i just assume reddit is new onlyfans now
I'm like 60% sure it'll turn into a porn site after this. But maybe that's what they're going for?
Fuck all that Reddit shit
Imagine the person (or more likely a whole group) who has spent weeks designing and iterating over those arrows.
More likely 30 minutes in the evening after playing games all day and working for someone else lol
No way…. Splez is watching
Wait are they charging people for upvoteing
It's what the old gold used to be. They rebranded it and added a tiny incentive for content creators (like a dollar per gold, regardless of the level of gold, once you reach a certain karma level)
Really it's just shittier reddit gold and another way reddit is trying to make money off of colorful arrows
Turning Reddit into a career
A repost bot’s dream
This is off topic, but why isn't there an animated gif of Bugs Bunny saying the "NO"? I mean, we have animated gifs for almost everything else, but I only see this as a static pic. Can no one find the cartoon that this is from and create a gif from it?
It is because the cartoon in which the frame is from he doesn't actually say no. The frame is taken just after he chugs a whole bottle of "Hare Tonic" https://youtu.be/uuKiqu3g_sE
Okay, that makes sense. Maybe it's the Mandela Effect, but I swear I remember a cartoon where Bugs says "No" similar to how he's shown in the still. Maybe not (?).
I'm pretty sure Bugs says no like we're imagining a few times, but never with a nice crisp close up like this.
Wow, I had no idea this is what it's from! It took a few minutes for me to get the exact frame, but when I did, it was obvious. Thanks!
It's super not obvious to me when the frame happens.
What's the time mark for the frame?
At about 0:30, just before Bugs brings the bottle to his lips. It's rotated from the original head-back position, which is why the video is rotated.
I was thinking it had to be a moment like that, but couldn't quite catch it.
It's definitely intentional that half of the #prices have #69 in it right?
Musk must have come up with the idea. Wait, there's no $4.20 option, so maybe not.
Well clicking #69 was a little NSFW
First time I've noticed a hashtag as a Lemmy user.
Mine didn’t create a clickable link, did it?
It did not, you're right.
Kbin & Mastodon only I suppose.
Le 420xXx69 connoisseurs
What a bunch of scumbags
But I don't love reddit
Can't wait for the ability to pay to bump your post to top.
You know that shits coming. Or something like 'highlighted' comments
Stonks
Interesting idea, make the users pay to effectively moderate posts in a positive way, this won't have large ramifications with what's on the front page /s.
Reddit heard "mods are unpaid" and found a way to charge them.
Do people get paid when their posts are gilded now?
Lmao fuck no, unless somehow in the last month Steve Huffman became a human being but I really don't see that happening
So they're just plain lying about it supporting them.
It supports them with feelings of pride and accomplishment.
I'm still using Boost for Reddit, so I doubt this is coming to me
The new more edgy five-o-clock shadow Reddit.
...so they got rid of awards in favor of adding arrow shaped awards?
“Supports the creators” makes me think they have a revenue split and they got rid of the old system to prevent people from not knowing the difference
Yeah this also conveniently happens after they made everyone's Reddit Gold invalid. Pretty damn shady if you ask me.
Need influencers if they are going to IPO
Don’t want to lose money by having to split something people bought a year ago
"supports the creators?" like the person who created the comment gets paid? probably not. I've made zillions of witty upvoted comments and I haven't earned a dime. Where does that money go? Into spez's pockets.
Supposedly you can cash these golds out if you get 10 of them, at a rate of $1 per gold, as long as you live in the US. I figure that the left-most gild is equivalent to 1 gold, so Reddit is keeping roughly 70% of the money you pay through this system.
Oh great. More incentives for bots to run rampant and rehash old posts and comments...
Maybe its time to start botting on reddit
The "levels" doesn't even make any sense, a splink of different color?
What a lol.
Yes, but do you see the last one!? It is colorful on the outside and golden on the INSIDE
🖕🖕🏻🖕🏼🖕🏽🖕🏾🖕🏿
I appreciate your commitment to inclusion.
Hatred of reddit is accepted by all
"Fingering supports the contributors you love."
Is this real?
Yeah:
I'm not going back to Reddit to find the answer but does any of this money actually go to the creators of the post that gets gold?
If they get at least 10 gold awarded to them within 12 months, and meet the karma/yr threshold, and stay in "good standing" , and aren't nsfw, and any number of the other thresholds Reddit could use to say no, then they might get ~50% of the price paid to award it. Otherwise Reddit just keeps it all.
Investors be like
So someone has to work at this for a year before getting paid anything when they start out? Am I getting this right?
The 12 month thing isn't a limit as far as I can tell. More that anything beyond that doesn't count. So if you ended up meeting all the requirements within a day somehow, it would trigger then.
Oh yeah, that makes way more sense. Thanks
They don't get money, they get exposure which is more valuable than money anyway /s in case it wasn't obvious
Exposure is something people can die from.
Like Paul Smith who lives in Wegstraße 42, 12345 Berlin, Germany. He blocked me but don't send him death threats because of it.
Support as in the 'stroke the ego' sense not 'help financially put food on the table and heat their home' sense
I would really like to see lemmy add a 'direct donation' button to post and comments that links to their paypal or whatever. I think throwing a dollar or two directly at the person who made the comment or post you really liked is an infinitely better way to support them than throwing that money at a company so that they can award a shiny digital icon above the post.
While I like the sentiment, in reality I think it would do the same thing as it's doing on Reddit - turn Lemmy into a huge bot farm trying to get money from real users.
This is a great point, I did not think about that. Thanks
Creators on reddit?
Wait, that explains soo much of their terrible UI changes ocer the years!
On old reddit, usernames, while displayed, are in reality semi hidden, it uses tiny text that blends in the rest of the text.
This is terrible for creators, their name is their brand, and if they don't get exposure of it on their content, they will leave.
This is why new reddit made usernames slightly more prominent, and also started pushing avatars, they want more big creators, that they expect will bring in their audience, an audience that is trained to want to support their creator.
This is turning reddit from a vibrant community to a generic social media site, a checkbox for what a creator is expected to have...
No
They do, actually. Eligible creators (basically you have to live in the US, be over 18 and have made at least 100 karma in the last 12 months) can claim 33% of the money spent on the gold.
Please don’t just say “no” to a question without actually doing research. Disliking a platform isn’t a reason to spread misinformation about it.
Theoretically, yes. Supposedly (If you live in the US) you can cash out $0.90 for every ‘gold’ you receive. In the image, the leftmost golden upvote is worth one ‘gold’, and the rightmost is worth 25. This means that one gold is bought for $2.69, so the post creator can claim 33% of that money back if they are eligible. https://www.reddit.com/contributor-program
Holy shit I thought it was fake!
Remember to always tip your celebrities for promoting whatever dumb projects on on your Internet forums, god knows we could use the money.
::: spoiler spoiler
THAT WAS SARCASM
:::
Yeah but can we get back to talking about I Don't Even Remember The Name Oh Wait Rampart
You mean Barbie, right?
Because my movies are the only commercial interests permitted on Lemmy. Look at the banner of this community!
AMAs aren't just marketing, now they're money makers themselves!
It's honestly pretty insulting.
They could hardly make it more explicit that reddit is profiting off content members create.
I'm not one for circle jerking but reddit is objectively becoming a shittier platform
I feel like all of them kinda are
Youtube and Discord conveniently added user tags for no reason literally the moment Twitter went down the already pretty deep hole.
Twitch's favorite pastime is making bank on "unrelated" content
Facebook is just Facebook
Reddit has been constantly losing its appeal every year ever since they moved off the old layout.
Everyone adding/changing things in some meager attempt to drive profits and value without considering effects of user loss because social media is such an oligopoly it doesn't matter.
Hiroshima has completely given up on ever making 4chan profitable, so it's still full of porn and casual racism.
As low-brow as it can get, 4chan is still part of the solution, unlike plebbit.
Reddit really has become everything that Reddit used to hate.
Love the desperate grab for revenue prior to IPO.
Too bad the ransomware is getting leaked as soon as they announce the IPO date.
Spez, you done played yourself.
Go on...
"prior to ipo" for the last four(teen) years
When I used to have gold to gild, I would always give it to the stupidest comment, like the most childish shit ever, if you had a poop joke or something, I'd give you gold, most of the time people would join in and gild the dumb comment.
Man if I'd have found this out back then I'd have ranted at you for ruining reddit.
That was before reddit ruined reddit
They're paying the user this money or this is just for a fancy little icon next to the post like reddit gold used to be?
It's literally just reddit currency for their shitty premium
Oh, just more bullshit then. Thanks for clarifying.Edit: they do pay out cash for gold, but they keep most of it.
Not sure why the others are lying - disliking a platform is not a reason for spreading misinformation.
https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/17331620007572-What-is-the-Contributor-Program-and-how-can-I-participate-
They are paying eligible users based on karma and gold.
Of course, the program is more of a "see, we have something" than a proper revenue share because of the "get at least 10 gold" criterium and all the other hoops you have to jump through.
Thank you for the correct answer! I would have gone on believing a lie had you not responded. Here's their payout table:
So they charge $2.69-$66.99 for gilding and only give the contributor $0.90-$1, keeping the rest. Wow, sounds like a shit deal for everyone but Reddit.
So basically this will give a very small handful of gallowboob-scale karma whores maybe a thousand dollars a year.
Assuming users are willing to pay for comments. I'd expect far fewer awards to be handed out now that they cost dollars.
$0.90 per gold ?
I mean shouldn't that gave been:
$0.90 ger dollar given by golds?
Anyway, it smells like the large majority will work and get nothing, some "pro" accounts will maybe.
Reddit was mainly driven by lots of small 'content-creators' (I hate that word so much) like ordinary people sharing and helping.
Cheers to you all making posts and comments here (and well anywhere actually, because IMO it benefits humanity mostly).
I think the higher amounts in OP's pic are multiples of "gold" (with $66.99 being 25 gold) and assume the payout would change per gold for what seems like a different currency than what that table is for (where 1 gold is $1.99 USD).
All that said, Reddit hasn't really given any reason to give them the benefit of the doubt here, either, so it could very well be $1 per award no matter the amount paid for it.
so they keep 60+%. I am not sure why people willing to support someone won't do it directly vs giving a high percentage to a middle man.
You get $0.90 per gold - the fancier golden upvotes are worth multiple gold, with the most expensive one being worth 25 gold. So the post creator can claim 33% back
In all my years in reddit I only got gold once. The prerequisites of needing 10 is just bonkers.
After 10 years, approaching a million comment karma, and many sourced write-ups and copy pastas I got a fair amount. Probably 200 of a mixture of gold and the occasional platinum. This was concentrated in later years as I better understood reddit, and understood specific audiences more. I strove to give genuinely good information, too.
Unfortunately reddit's admins are lazy, suck, and some subs' moderators even worse (looking at r/news) and they screwed me. Their loss. I'll find another platform to publish content, like here of course and elsewhere.
Right, so in a good year, you'd have gotten some beer money from it. And in return, you'd have to give reddit your real name and credit card information.
This is honestly even more pathetic than I ever imagined it could have been. Reddit is trying to emulate the "influencer" model from other social media, but doesn't want to actually pony up cash to do it. YouTube has bought Mr Beast like six(?) houses at this point. Reddit won't even buy your friends a round at the local pub.
Right. Unless you're a complete power-user whose entire life revolves around reddit, even the it's a massive risk akin to saying, "I'm going to go start a successful YouTube channel!" (which would still be a better venture).
I usually get "gold" by complaining about how admins / employees can give it out for free to drum up interest.
My biggest gold events were saying "don't buy gold" during Paomageddon. To think, I would have almost gotten enough money to cover the Uber ride to the bank!
Did you follow niche subs? I noticed when I was more active in default subs, I got gold more often. As the default subs got less bearable and I shifted towards smaller communities, I barely got gold anymore.
Or maybe the quality of my posts just became shit.
Depends if I was just looking to karma whore or just shitpost for fun. When I was trying I could easily rack up karma. But even so it's a lot of work.
Nah makes perfect sense, they don't wanna have to pay out.
So, i just assume reddit is new onlyfans now
I'm like 60% sure it'll turn into a porn site after this. But maybe that's what they're going for?
Fuck all that Reddit shit
Imagine the person (or more likely a whole group) who has spent weeks designing and iterating over those arrows.
More likely 30 minutes in the evening after playing games all day and working for someone else lol
No way…. Splez is watching
Wait are they charging people for upvoteing
It's what the old gold used to be. They rebranded it and added a tiny incentive for content creators (like a dollar per gold, regardless of the level of gold, once you reach a certain karma level)
Really it's just shittier reddit gold and another way reddit is trying to make money off of colorful arrows
Turning Reddit into a career
A repost bot’s dream
This is off topic, but why isn't there an animated gif of Bugs Bunny saying the "NO"? I mean, we have animated gifs for almost everything else, but I only see this as a static pic. Can no one find the cartoon that this is from and create a gif from it?
It is because the cartoon in which the frame is from he doesn't actually say no. The frame is taken just after he chugs a whole bottle of "Hare Tonic" https://youtu.be/uuKiqu3g_sE
Okay, that makes sense. Maybe it's the Mandela Effect, but I swear I remember a cartoon where Bugs says "No" similar to how he's shown in the still. Maybe not (?).
I'm pretty sure Bugs says no like we're imagining a few times, but never with a nice crisp close up like this.
Wow, I had no idea this is what it's from! It took a few minutes for me to get the exact frame, but when I did, it was obvious. Thanks!
It's super not obvious to me when the frame happens.
What's the time mark for the frame?
At about 0:30, just before Bugs brings the bottle to his lips. It's rotated from the original head-back position, which is why the video is rotated.
I was thinking it had to be a moment like that, but couldn't quite catch it.
Appreciate the assist!
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/uuKiqu3g_sE
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
It's definitely intentional that half of the #prices have #69 in it right?
Musk must have come up with the idea. Wait, there's no $4.20 option, so maybe not.
Well clicking #69 was a little NSFW
First time I've noticed a hashtag as a Lemmy user.
Mine didn’t create a clickable link, did it?
It did not, you're right.
Kbin & Mastodon only I suppose.
Le 420xXx69 connoisseurs
What a bunch of scumbags
But I don't love reddit
Can't wait for the ability to pay to bump your post to top.
You know that shits coming. Or something like 'highlighted' comments
Stonks
Interesting idea, make the users pay to effectively moderate posts in a positive way, this won't have large ramifications with what's on the front page /s.
Reddit heard "mods are unpaid" and found a way to charge them.
Do people get paid when their posts are gilded now?
Lmao fuck no, unless somehow in the last month Steve Huffman became a human being but I really don't see that happening
So they're just plain lying about it supporting them.
It supports them with feelings of pride and accomplishment.
I'm still using Boost for Reddit, so I doubt this is coming to me
Isn't it better a direct donation?
Is this actually real?
i just saw that pop up, lol wtf