Trump bizarrely claims 'they' will change the name of the state of Pennsylvania if he loses it

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Trump bizarrely claims 'they' will change the name of the state of Pennsylvania if he loses it
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My god, the man is insane. And people are talking about how unfit Biden is because he mixes up world leaders and dates?

Interesting to learn so much about how Fascism works, because of Trump. Making crazy statements, as a type of blind loyalty test is instinctual for fascist leaders. Alienates his followers from normal people, forces them to believe in even crazier things.

And this time around it's even easy to isolate yourself in an information bubble that completely reinforces your beliefs. Social media is a godsend for fascists.

Meanwhile Trump has never even heard of these people or what happened on those dates...

Instead we get classics like this from the certified genius ..

"Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV. See how smart I am, not many people can remember 5 things.."

and

"that dementia test was quite challenging but I passed it, not many other people would be smart enough to pass it"

Which, tbh, are already confusing for someone who hasn't been in the game for decades on end.

I guess I am unfit for office because I forget everyone's name about 3 minutes after they tell me. If I haven't met you several times I am just never remembering your name.

My wife took me to a going away party for one of her co-workers where I literally only knew her (obviously) and the neurosurgeon she works for. She introduced me to like 30 people over the course of the evening then would ask days/weeks later "do you remember so and so?" I forgot their names they moment we moved on, lol.

Literally reason #1 why I haven't run for (local) political office, despite seriously considering it.

If he loses again, what is to stop him trying again in 2028?

I mean, the republican party loves losers, so that would just solidify another run imo. As long as they also take all of their money, and tell them everything is ok.

He is very vaguely suggesting the Dems will purge all connections to the past. It's a calculated talking point. He isn't insane or stupid; he is evil.

It sounds insane and stupid, so I'm not sure that matters.

It sounds scary, because it's ridiculous, and yet people believe it anyway. They will believe anything he tells them, and that is very very scary.

You couldn't be more off base. The worst thing to do is to keep dismissing Trump as "stupid." What possible reason could you have for underestimating him and the rest of the conservative party, especially in their capacity for evil?

He's a useful idiot. I think Trump has no brains of his own, but he just absorbs whatever he is told by people who are evil and regurgitates it.

They're both unfit, and it's a disgrace that you're basically stuck choosing between these 2. There's a reasonable chance one of them keels over and dies before the election as well.

It’s pretty clear that one is far more unfit though.

Why do you keep justifying the choices we have, do more.

I mean, sure, but there's like 300 million other people they could've picked instead.

There is surely a very large set of people who could be a better president but the conjunction of that set and the set of people who can become president is empty.

one of them keels over and dies before the election as well.

well, that's what I'm voting for!

"I promise you this, with me at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, no one will lay a finger on your firearms — just as took place for four years when I was your president,"

Trump banned bump stocks, which laid the basis for the pistol brace ban, both of which conservative 2a meisters absolutely love, right? And this was at a NRA conference? I don't get how people know he did that and hate him for it, but will immediately forget their hatred in order to defend him on any other ground. MAGA is a cult.

He was worse for guns than Biden. How the fuck do these people reconcile this shit with their beliefs?

R beside name = good D beside name = bad

I think they write it on the back of their hand just in case too

Being a member of the pro-gun community already requires living in a fantasy. A few more lies and hollow promises shouldn't be a problem for them.

Besides, this shit is easy when you've got no integrity at all. Just say anything. "Trump banned bump stocks so that it could be struck down by the Supreme Court and then the deep state wouldn't be able to take our guns but we didn't vote and pray and donate hard enough so we better go even more cultish and far-right to fix it"

Turnip: "KJMBNFLDKSJBLAAAARGHHHHH"

News: "60% of Americans now in support of Trumps statement that KJMBNFLDKSJBLAAAARGHHHHH. And this news channel agrees. This is Kent Brockman, Channel 6, signing off, with a KJMBNFLDKSJBLAAAARGHHHHH you, Biden."

You're joking, but the covfefe thing was almost more ridiculous, given they pretended it was intentional and claimed that an inside group knew exactly what he meant.

Like, how can you even combat that level of stupidity? You'd need crocodiles to get through to them.

That example is so perfect I assume some Trump zealot somewhere is using it at this very moment.

Just yesterday in a thread here on Lemmy.world about his NATO remarks, I read a comment: "Trump said he'd pull out of NATO and accused Europe of not paying its bills in order to... strengthen NATO by motivating countries to pay more and it's Trump's merit alone that Ukraine can resist Russia's attack now."

"HEYY! That's a blatant foul! Doesn't the umpire see this? Is he blind?! Wait- what did you say? That's one of ours? WOOOO GOO TEAM, NO FOUL, USA USA USA!"

The state of politics since ca 300 BCE. Now with nukes!

It's not about the issues. It's about cheering for your team.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Pres Trump, Feb 2018

They're going to change the name to Wokesylvania and you'll have to be a gay trans to live there. Look it up.

VOTE FOR ME OR THE LIBERAL MEDIA GIVES YOUR SON A FUCKING STUFFED SHARK AND KNEE HIGH SOCKS

I’VE GOT A BOX FULL OF PINK WHITE AND BLUE KNEE HIGHS HERE, AND THIS GROUP OF ELECTORS OF A DUBIOUS ORIGIN. WHAT’S IT GOING TO BE?

Whoa whoa whoa, lets all calm down now. No need to do anything rash.

Alright then, let’s talk bidness. Are you going to vote for the old man and the sea, or a sentient piece of stupid cheddar?

I am a straight trans gal, is there space for me?

NO!

You MUST be GAY.

😢

Sorry, lady. If you wanted to be trans and stay in Pennsylvania Wokesylvania, you should have thought about it first and gotten a girlfriend. Now get into Ohio!

C'mon man, Transylvania is right there

How dare you damn someone to Ohio. Bah gawd, that lady’s got a family!

Wokesylvania will not tolerate the evil non-gay! Except child, of course. How can the Gay Agenda be enacted otherwise? Children must be corrupted into gayness by drag queen story hours.

Fuck, our dastardly plan is being foretold far too early for this part of the movie! Science damnit!

The liberal media has already corrupted you and, therefore, we have no interest in further altering you.

They're gonna make us microdose edibles every morning. To make matters worse there'll be a taco truck on every corner.

I hear it will be turned in to a monarchy and they will crown Taylor Swift Queen for single handedly helping Biden solidify the win in this election.

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Oh no, he found out about the Transsylvania plans. But I assume Wokesconsin, Gaybraska and Lesbiana are still a go?

Transsylvania

That's actually genius lmao

There will still be the schism between liberals and conservatives. The western half still get all goth, wear fangs, and have blood ceremonies, as Bram Stoker intended and rural families have practiced through the years. Meanwhile the damned woke eastern half will be all crossdressing, and surgical mutilation on a whim, “girls will be boys and boys will be girls. It’s a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world …” and engaging in all sorts of unnatural Kinks

I never actually thought about changing the names of any states (why?!) but I kinda like how these sound

This guy rambles like an old man who’s read too much Facebook.

Truth social, Facebook's meth head relative nobody likes to talk about

Facebook just recommended some idiot claiming Taylor Swift is a dude. I don't even want to imagine what's happening over at truth.

He's just telegraphing that she is okay to kill.

They started at pedophiles, because functionally nobody will defend them, even as people openly advocate their murder.

They'd like to be able to use the same rhetoric with the LGBT community, but they'd lose all their plausible deniabilty. So instead, everyone on their list of undesirables is suddenly a pedophile and therefore okay to kill. It's why suddenly drag queens, teachers, Biden and anyone else they don't like is somehow a "groomer", even as their own ranks get arrested for fucking kids.

This is just another step on the same path. Taylor Swift is a threat to Trump so now she is secretly trans and all her young fans have been groomed.

And somewhere out there is a Republican-voting, unmedicated schizophrenic conspiracy theorist with an AR-15 who knows exactly what to do with a groomer.

just referring to pennsylvania as a 'state' instead of a 'commonwealth' is gonna lose it for ya, dinglebutt.

This! Someone probably told him that it was the commonwealth of Pennsylvania and not to use the word state, and he went off on them and thought they were a liberal plant.

“They will ban pencils from Pennsylvania!!! It will be renamed ‘Pensvania’ and you’ll only be allowed to use a pen!!!”

The evil libs are gonna rename it Pedovania and kick out all the straight white christians and turn the state into an adrenochrome harvesting child sex facility!

and because we live in a post-poe world, I have to emphasize, emphatically, that this is sarcasm.

Wait, I live in Pennsylvania. What are we changing it to? "Getfuckedfascists"?

The Democratic Peoples Republic of Trumpistan

long time ago, so has the rest of the cult.

I've seen some of them justifying that when it gets brought up. It's been a while though and the arguments were dumb, so I didn't remember what they were.

Not really relevant to the interests of the NRA. The NRA makes money from paranoia about the government and Trump promotes that. So Trump's their guy.

Penn was a slave owner but among plutocrats in the 1600s he's about as good as it gets. He treated native Americans well (and to whatever extent you want to credit it, he treated his slaves better than most) and liked democracy and religious freedom.

So if you want to credit the morsel of an idea here, he is probably trying to say that even though Penn was an OK guy relative to the times, he could get "cancelled" because he was a slave owner and then "they" would force the state to change its name because Penn was canceled.

But obviously, half muttering nonsense that can be interpreted favorably by anyone with whatever beliefs if they so choose is Trump's super power so I'm all for reading this uncharitably and just saying he's being weird and crazy.

They’ll make it the commonpoverty of Pennsylvania!

Kinda feels like he heard someone make this joke and then tried to steal it without understanding which part was the joke.

My wife actually brought up a good point: he might have heard about the push to rename Columbus Ohio, which is both a real left wing position and also something unlikely to happen anytime remotely soon despite the actual city generally being far less comfortable with its name than any other major city in the country to my knowledge and often euphamizing it. But yeah not happening no matter how much we’d rather call it flavortown or Hiawatha or fucking Ohio City even

well, this is an escalation. like, this is a big step up from hamberders and Nikki Haley at Jan 6.

When thy change his diaper, they should check for blood.

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former President Donald Trump bizarrely claimed that if he loses Pennsylvania, “they” will change the state's name.

Trump made the claim in a speech to thousands of members of the National Rifle Association (NRA) in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania on Friday night.

Trump says if he doesn’t win the election, Pennsylvania will cease to exist because ‘they’ will change the name pic.twitter.com/eGyY5GiEMF

In recent years, there have been moves across the United States to address the country’s racist past by renaming places named after controversial historical figures, particularly those with ties to slavery and the Confederacy.

"I promise you this, with me at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, no one will lay a finger on your firearms — just as took place for four years when I was your president," he said.

President Joe Biden was born in Pennsylvania and won the state against Trump in the 2020 election.


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“I promise you this, with me at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, no one will lay a finger on your firearms — just as took place for four years when I was your president,” he said.

You know what's ridiculous about this? His followers will agree without noticing that Biden and Obama and Clinton didn't take their precious guns away.

Know what else is ridiculous about it? The Trump administration banned bump stocks in December 2018. Not Congress, the ATF did it. Under Trump.

Biggest federal gun control move since Clinton's assault rifle ban which was done through legislation.

Not the bump stocks though, Trump took those from the ammosexuals and you don't hear shit about it anymore.

But muh guns! Day cummins for muh guns!

Right? They have been "coming for your guns" my entire 46 years. That's one long-term plan they've got there!

What did William Penn do to Trump?

He was radically left wing. He even had left wing opinions on pronouns! (He opposed the use of the formal second person pronoun)

Me thinks this man has a few bats in his belfry… a few sandwiches short of a picnic… his elevator doesn’t go to the top … not playing with a full deck

You get the idea.

Biden really needed Trump to set a new water mark after the last couple days, and he came through.