I Tried Reddit Again and it Sucks Now
I installed the official Reddit app and went on it to see what the old place was looking like now. My inbox was filled with spam. The "home feed" shows subs I never subscribed to. There are so many ads. Between the ads and the the extra subs in the feed, it's hard to just scroll. I also noted a lot of spam in some of the subs. Maybe they are subs with no mods? I'm not sure what's up with that.
It does suck I'm presently suspended at the moment for abusing the report feature by reporting a Nazi supporting targeting Georgia grand jurors. Not only do they frequently not remove Nazis you can get suspended for reporting Nazis. I'm done with reddit for good. It's a cesspool like Twitter.
Spez is a Nazi. Welcome to the resistance
I hadn't heard of that idea as yet. He's not generally well liked, given his position and personal role and the enshittification process of Reddit and generally entitled attitude possessed of many similarly wealthy people. I mean put more simply he certainly seems to be a dick, but I hadn't heard he was in some way associated with Nazism. What did he do?
He is a Trump supporter at the very least.
Of course he is not associated with nazism, the dude above is stupid af, throwing labels of nazism just for fun.
Sir, this is the Internet and Godwin's rule is law.
He's not a nazi they're just throwing shade
I mean, reddit kept t_d around for years after they helped organize a nazi rally.
That sounds much more like corporate interests and a related lack of will to get embroiled in moderation than evidence of ideological preference.
The t_d folks liked to go to Reddit to organise their nazi rallies and that basically just meant more traffic for Reddit which on a crude level is generally good from Reddit's perspective. It can be bad when it scares advertisers or when it drives away a larger amount of traffic from people put off by an apparently Nazi bent to the website they came to for killing time, compared to what they gained from a small group of freaks.
It's one subcommunity of a very large forum website that from afar just looks like another, additional contingent of users. If they start to hear some grumblings about it being a bit fucked up to allow this kind of community they could be tempted to intervene but that would mean taking active moderation steps which companies like Reddit have mostly not seen as their job or priority, especially Reddit which gets other people to do it for them for free, and then on top of that there's some degree of risk that doing so would damage the brand when it causes a stink and people start screaming censorship.
Eventually it becomes worth acting to get rid of something like this when enough stink is raised that news of the existence of the community and the types of discussions going on there goes mainstream and starts to spook advertisers and an actually large number of mainstream users.
This to me looks far more like a deeply held and passionate belief in the idea of "more money, and not less money" than for Nazism. I'm sure they'd just as soon embrace Nazism if the winds shifted and they thought on balance it'd work out more profitable to keep the right wing extremists happy than the rest of society, but at least right now it's pretty much not the case so they're forced to act despite a cynical reluctance wholly unrelated to ethos.
So they're not necessarily nazis, but they were willing to platform nazis because it made them money?
I'm not sure "collaborating with nazis for profit" is a moral win here.
It isn't. Just a different thing.
LOL don't think about it too hard. Nazi = "people I don't like". AKA Godwin's law.
I feel the whole point of this and Twitters bullshit was to get the lefties off of the last major social media left so everything can be Fox book ahead of the elections.
I reported extremely obvious spam repost bots and also got a permaban for "abusing reports". Fuck em, they want rhe garbage content to overrun their site, they're gonna get it.
Dude the same thing happened to me when I got in an argument with a mod! only our was about Muslim crimes that happened and me saying they were bad.(the one where the teachers was accused of showing Muhammad but did no such thing and was killed) yeah i said thay was bad! . The mods, they said I was committing islamaphobia?! Then he reported me for harassment for arguing with him and boom.. banned... Fuck reddit a d the mods!!
Yeah its not going to be surprising if a few of their employees are nazis
Facebook started doing this awhile ago too and made the site completely unusable for its original purpose of keeping up with friends and family. There is zero reason to browse Facebook anymore.
They say that Facebook spies on us and knows everything about us, but all I see on my feed is memes. I don't like them. Here on Lemmy I block every meme community I see!
It shows me tons of UFC stuff. I'm not even slightly interested in UFC. I've blocked dozens of different groups, but there's a thousand more to take their place. It also shows me lots of groups about soccer. I can't say that I've ever even watched one soccer game in my entire life. I used to visit Facebook to see how my long distance friends and family were doing. Now I don't visit Facebook at all, since I can't do that anymore.
So, I'm not trying to be snarky at all, just genuinely curious, as I've seen several people on Lemmy brag about how much they hate memes... Like, why? Do you not enjoy humor, or just not find them funny or something? It's a bit like someone saying they hate dogs to me. I honestly don't get it.
I didn't say that I hate them. I said that I don't like them. Let's avoid using these words interchangeably.
The issue with these communities is that they recycle the same old material. You mostly see reposts and blatantly bad jokes. Sometimes I feel as though people feel the need to create a meme, but they don't have any idea what it should be about. It's like trying to write a book or song for the sake of writing one. Nothing good comes out of it without a creative idea.
When a new template becomes popular, people recreate old jokes with it, because even templates are not original anymore. There's even a meme about this from Scooby-Doo, where the guy reveals that the monster (new template) is actually some guy they already knew (old template).
Mostly, such communities pollute the feed with unoriginal and unfunny content that doesn't bring any value to me.
Okay, I appreciate such a considered response. I do agree it gets old seeing the same exact post over and over. Reddit was getting really bad with that. Of course there's always the question of why some people find something funny and others don't too.
For me though, setting that aside, I just find the variations on a meme can be really fascinating. Then you have memes referring to other memes or imitating them, sort of like you described. Memes that descend into abstraction so as to become practically incomprehensible... I've had to research a few just to understand whay they were even talking about. I think at its best memeing is like some kind of collective conceptual art collaboration. Or like graffiti or music sampling. So interesting.
I felt that way as a teenager but now as an adult it's like a switch flipped and I find them insufferable. Memes within niche communities are still good though.
Yeah, it seems like all the answers I get boil down to: people don't like them because they just don't like them. Which is perfectly fair, I'm not sure why I was expecting a more nuanced response from anyone. It's sort of like how some people like chocolate and others don't. Who can say why really? It is interesting though that Lemmy seems to have a disproportionate share of vocal meme detractors.
We do like humour. So called "memes" (that is, image macros, memes are an entirely different thing, of which image macros are merely a particularly malignant subset)... OK, I'll grant you, maybe they're not entirely the opposite of humour, maybe they're just what's left when you remove all the humour and just leave a dry mummified shell of what might have once been a very poor attempt at a bad joke... but still, if they're poorly made (as is the case 99% of the time), they're noise, they're spam, and if they have any value whatsoever it's entirely negative... and if they're "well" made... then they're just plain old political propaganda (but without the artistic value that good propaganda posters had), so noise, spam, and definitely of negative value to society.
I don't think they're entirely negative. Memes can be very creative. Nor are they all political. That's a weird argument to me. As far as humor, I think we're just demonstrating how subjective it is. I find plenty of memes very funny. Yeah, can't say I agree with really anything you said there, at least not as a blanket statement.
It stops being funny after the 500th time. A lot of them are lolsorandumb zoomer humor. So its completely incoherrent or contains some sort of inside joke.
I've hated them since it got popular on 4chan and 9gag back in the day. People were just spouting memes and I could tell they lacked intelligence because of it.
I love humor. I love comedies and stand up comedy.
Memes aren't really humor. They're rhetoric that gets repetitive.
Interesting to hear your experience. It took me 3.5 months to fully remove myself from Reddit. (March to July):
I'm not one who likes to go cold turkey, but when once I commit to boycotting something I stick to it until my condition is met. In those final days I came across many Reddit users who were like "if you hate Reddit that much why are you still using iiiiiit?", that was annoying but that's behind me now and there is no condition for me to go back to it.
In my case I still use the Stealth App. It doesn't allow to login, nor vote or comment, but you can still follow the subreddits you want to. No ads, no usage of the API.
How do I use it? I don't want to give Reddit clicks but some subs never migrated over
Install the app, optionally change the Reddit source in the options (soon you'll be able to use a teddit proxy service to further obfuscate your profile, but for now I use the Web Scraping option), and enable some Privacy Enhancers, and you are good to go. To subscribe, search for a subreddit, open it, swipe left and click on "subscribe".
Looks like Stealth isn't supported soon
Looks like Stealth isn't supported soon
Maybe you can tell me. Does Lemmy have NSFW content?
Edit: Easily answered that question for myself
There are at least two instances specifically dedicated to it. I currently prefer pornlemmy.com to lemmy.nsfw. We need some more niche content to make it's way onto the platform, but it's a good start.
I keep seeing people say they want more "niche" content when it comes to porn on here but are people just looking for kinks or what?
I saw all kinds of nasty kink stuff when I was browsing pornlemmy.
I think what people want is very specific, well curated, and active communities about uncommon interests. Things like a whole community that is just 30-35year old redheads wearing cat ears and cleaning their shower in yellow striped thigh highs or something equally as weird and specific.
Like i remember stumbling across a community on reddit that was all about sewing felt vaginas/butts into stuffed animals so people could take their relationship with their favorite plushie to the next level. The community was shockingly active and full of discussion.
Things like that take time and lots of active users to become a thing. Lemmy isnt quite there yet. Same with other kinds of niche interests that havent quite set up shop here yet (for example there are cannabis communities, but nothing specifically for bonsai cannabis)
lol I am so not surprised something like that was active but I guess I have always been on the darkest corners of the internet.
bonsai cannabis?? Please tell me more about that.
Lol it was an interesting peak into the depravity of the human psyche 😅
And cannabonsai is super fun! You prune the cannabis kind of like a traditional bonsai tree. Its fun because you can get a complete look in a few months compaired to the years that traditional bonsai takes. It also works really well as a way to keep a graphed mother plant with multiple strains.
I was gonna share a pic of my plant but I cant figure out how to add pictures in my comments that actually show up... so heres a link to some pics :)
https://cannabitch.substack.com/p/the-art-of-cannabonsai
Thanks for the link! I was also looking it up. It sounds really cool and I love that you can achieve the effect in just a few months.
If you have desktop you can insert images on lemmy - its been working for me so far.
For me personally, I'm a woman who is mostly attracted to other women, but I'm kinky af. Reddit has/had lesbian specific versions of a lot of NSFW subs. Having occasional lesbian content in niche communities isn't the same. There are other very specific things that are personal to me, but needing more lesbian content would be the biggest category for me easily.
That makes total sense.
I use Infinity that I downloaded from F-Droid and it still works without me inputting any API keys or paying for a subscription. Did it steal my key or something 💀
I keep my account up because I'm in subs that have technical help for certain hardware and software and haven't migrated anywhere. I have lots of answers to issues that can be very helpful when searching. It sucks that Spez has forced so many people to delete important help like that.
FYI RedReader has planned Lemmy support as of a couple months ago; no roadmap or time frame but it should be in the works.
I just got permabanned for calling Clarence Thomas a cunt because “the c word is sexist hate speech.” You have got to be fucking kidding me, reddit has become such a piece of shit I’m done with it for good.
meanwhile they haven't banned clarence thomas for being an actual cunt.
That's been a standard for banning in r/politics for quite some time. "Cunt" is the mod banhammer trigger word there. Clearly they have never heard of Australia.
They don't have politics in Australia, silly. /s
r/Australia is notoriously easy to get a permanent ban for completely arbitrary reasons. the mods there are reddit neckbeard stereotypes on steroids
Politics? That's a 'murican tradition. That's why r/politics only allows to discuss 'Murica, because there are no politics anywhere else. What? Did c/politics say something?
Yes I was banned there for saying I wouldn’t be sad if trump dies in prison or something like that, banned for advocating death lol
I was permabanned for harassment for insulting spez during the 3p shit lol
What a bunch of fucking losers I can’t wait for their IPO to go down in flames, hopefully aided by some organization investigating and reporting the fact that like 30% of the website is karmafarming bots and chinese scam shills.
Haha no way I got banned for calling RBG a cunt for not retiring when she had the chance!
Long before the big fiasco I had already taken up the habit of nuking my own Reddit account after ~6 months or ~20K karma, whichever came first. I had noticed that an attachment to such accounts creates inner turmoil. Like when you get unfairly banned by some powertripping mod. I simply didn't like the fact that someone else had any kind of emotional power over me, no matter how slight, so I taught myself to kill my accounts without attachment.
So when the shit hit the fan before summer it was trivial to just delete my latest account and not make a new one. Been a happy Lemming ever since, not planning on going back. Sometimes the urge to lurk creeps in but so far I've been perfectly able to ignore it.
I honestly feel happier than before. I already don't use any news apps and limit my exposure to actuality, and Reddit was pretty much the last "toxic" thing to hammer into my mind 24/7.
I'd say I miss it, but I really don't. The hours of doomscrolling I spent on there were not only wasted, but 100% counterproductive to my happiness as a human being.
I spent over a full year /played in Wow loooong ago, and that time at least wasn't wasted because I enjoyed most of it. Can't say the same for Reddit.
I keep my account up because I'm in subs that have technical help for certain hardware and software. I have lots of answers to issues that can be very helpful when searching. It sucks that Spez has forced so many people to delete important help like that.
Export them and be good.
Export them where? I have tens of thousands of posts and comments. Idk how to easily find the ones that would be relvant and then idk where I would put them that they would turn up in a search. Right now if you search for an issue that I have a resolution for, it will come up with the Reddit post or reply that I've made. I don't know what I would do with them if I exported them so that people could find them.
Thanks for that, the only reason I go to reddit anymore is because it pops in my search results, usually when I'm trying to solve a tech problem.
I relate to this, but my issue when they banned my account with over 90k karma and four years of engagement, they banned me and any new account got suspended immediately.. even after trying the VPN way.... So when I try to delete the accounts... Reddit won't let me delete them always says sorry you can't do that right now try again later.. but because it's banned/permanently suspended.. I can't see anything on the profile either. I am beyond done with Reddit
I feel that. Last year I had a 12 year account with about 140k karma permabanned for linking to rarbg on a TV series sub. My mistake but there was no warning. After that, every account I tried making got nuked for ban circumventing within a week of creating it, which made it impossible to use reddit for things like BST communities, which was pretty much all my activity was anyway
I just got permabanned for saying “cunt” because it’s sexist hate speech.. dick is allowed but cunt isn’t? I think the neckbeard mods are just addicted to brandishing their internet authority because they’re such losers in real life.
Relevant username. Nobody was more thin skinned than R*ddit mods
as a former sync for reddit user, we were living in a delusion in the end. We fixed it for ourselves but the tides of change were inevitable
Hopefully now a sync for lemmy user!
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Most definitely
Ads every few posts. Ads inside comments. Ads ads ads.
Personally I still use Reddit for niche things (like arguing with people about whatever video game I’m playing at the time) But fediverse here for generic scrolling
Yeah there are some things I really want to do like check in on a thread about a show from 5 years ago etc. But I can't bring myself to do it. Fuck spez
Stealth is a great and beautiful app that allows you to subscribe ad-free with no account (read only).
Cool do you have a link?
It's on FDroid
Not to mention the official reddit app is janky as hell. So many smooth scrolling 3rd party apps for lemmy.
Memmy user poking my head up.
They've been pushing that fucking app for ten years now, and have tried almost everything to get people to use it. Everything except for spending any time making it good. It shows the rot at the core of Reddit leadership that they'd rather get into a huge fight with their community, and break their mobile site, than just build a decent app.
I made a new account and was immediately bombarded with posts from subs on the account I deleted months ago, suggesting them because Reddit knew I visited them in the past.
No, that’s not creepy at all. /s
Clear cookies?
They check via IP as well, and possibly also browser fingerprints.
If your using home fiber connection (residential), then your IP address is not permanent or static, at least for me (I'm from the Philippines anyway).
Use Firefox Browser and install uBlock Origin, then. Clear cookies whenever you like.
Honestly, I've never visited Reddit since the API BS.
It doesn't matter that you IP is periodically changed by your ISP. They will always be from sort of the same ranges, as IPs are regionally distributed. That's what a digital fingerprint is for. The mix of browser configuration, screen size, OS version, IP, and specially if there are tracking markers (referral from other websites when you click on a link directed to reddit). Also, there are tracking cookies, you might delete the reddit cookies but there are still other tracking sites cookies that reddit can use to identify you.
A lot of people here still using Reddit. Such a shame.
The world would be a better place if people were willing to put their money where their mouth is. You're no better than the people that hate Elon Musk but refuse to leave X.
Jesus, chill out dude. It's okay to use Reddit for some things, because, like it or not, it's the only viable option for a lot of things
Sysadmin, certain IT related subs, and my local city sub, are all still 'useful' subs in some way or another just due to sheer population still over there, at least until we have a larger mass adoption over here.
Based on your shared view, why would you even sub to this LW community? Just cut the cord fully if that's your preference.
I really miss having a local sub but both of the portland subs turned into absolute cess pools the past year, there's an ask one too that's also filled with "i need to be right about this" type assholes.
Yeah I gave up that shit. I'll only go there if a search result takes me there for information I was looking for.
Sad to say, there is still a lot of niche info on there. Aside from finding stuff via Google, I don't bother anymore.
That's not true at all. There's a distinct difference in effort between a person who left but opened the door to observe the dumpster fire and a person who goes back every day for content.
It's the people like OP who are killing reddit. Insulting them for going back to look at the damage is backwards.
op made me wanna check my Reddit notifications if i have any
As I stated in several other replies, I still use it because of a couple specific hardware and software help subs that haven't migrated anywhere. As long as the owners keep the subreddits as their only place for help for their product, then I'll have to keep using Reddit. That's also why I haven't deleted my account. I have help topics that people can find when searching for those devices or app. I'd hate to take those resources away just because Spez is a douche.
I'm on Bluesky, but literally nobody I follow on Twitter is. I'm all for Bluesky, but it needs more people to become successful. I enjoy it a lot, but it just needs mainstream attention first.
According to WP, Bluesky is in "invite-only beta".
I still use reddit cause some niche communities are more acrive there, but I eill say the front page has gone fron bad, to worse, to wtf
I deleted my account as part of the Great Reddit Exodus of 2023 but have periodically visited the site since without an account.
Many of the posts I see now seem really sensationalist and almost like they were created by bots. Of course, maybe Reddit was always that way and it just some time being away for me to realize that.
You should delete your account at r/redditseppuku
I ran shreddit to delete rest of my comments off the GDPR files that power delete suite missed. And it's really fun seeing everything be deleted as the script is run.
it is time. a month away from my reddit account has proven I don't have any desire to return. Damn Spez, way to shoot yourself in the face you fucking bellend.
Don't know what you mean. I don't have hard statistics but it seems pretty apparent that Reddit weathered the storm well, just as he said they would.
Sure, some users got very angry with Spez and Reddit but ultimately didn't go anywhere. They continue to complain about Reddit on Reddit.
Sure, some users left entirely but I'm certain many many more chose to subject themselves to the data-mining, ads, and pop-up notifications in the official app, thereby continuing to contribute to increasing Reddit's value.
If Twitter has taught us anything, it's that once you've built a sufficient userbase, there's almost nothing they won't tolerate.
did I say I had hard statistics saying Reddit was going down?
No, no I didn't, but you imagined that and just ran with a few paragraphs retorting it lol.
he's lost thousands of mods. you know, the idiots (like me) who did exceptional amounts of free labor, keeping the place clean and fun. you can already see the effect in multiple subs, the spammers are back in force.
that's how he's shot himself in the face. They're never going to go back after this shit, and now that lemmy exists, people are moving on to the better alternative.
LOL, oh yeah, Twitter's doing great. How's that advertising working for 'em?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/technology/twitter-ad-sales-musk.html
Please, don't reply to something you're making up in your head in response.
bwahahahaha all the new rising posts on reddit are crypto scams. https://lemm.ee/post/6038434
that's working out great for spezzo
...did I say you did?
Pot meet kettle.
What does advertising have to do with the number of people on the platform?
silly me, I didn't know how accurate your username was. gonna block this idiotic discourse because you either can't or won't read, or are just shitposting.
More like blocking me because of what a giant buffoon you've made of yourself
I keep my account up because I'm in subs that have technical help for certain hardware and software and haven't migrated anywhere. I have lots of answers to issues that can be very helpful when searching. It sucks that Spez has forced so many people to delete important help like that.
Standard “wHy Do YoU cArE?” Post, ignoring this is the Reddit community.
But in all seriousness, not surprised. It’s likely only gonna get worse until it dies as a platform.
Thanks for taking the hit, soldier. I haven’t checked it since June 1, and was curious.
The day I opened rif and it didn't load was the day I quit reddit. Never went back. Lemmy isn't as cozy as reddit was for me after a decade, but I just had to deal with the fact those days are over.
I scroll here for short 5-10 min distractions but nothing more, all the comunities and all the porn is a bit confusing. I spent the first couple weeks blocking them but there are too many combinations of seggsy words to get them all.
One of the default subs in Canada seems entirely dedicated to xenophobia.
What happened to the first r/CanadianHousing🤔
r/Canada has been rather xenophobic and far right for years.
Yeah, r/Canada is fucked.
I'm not using Reddit since the whole API stuff got closed. However I posted something to get some tech help on a specific service online. Despite being nothing wrong with my post it was getting down voted. The mod perked up and said it's just Reddit and just get used to it. No thanks.
I miss the amount of content that would make me laugh but I don't miss the utter dickheads that reside there. I'm sticking with Lemmy.
All I know is there's several face rating subs now. The AskReddit and AITA type subs are trying to catch up.
I think you are just getting recommended stuff related to other subs you clicked on, whether you are subbed to them or not.
Don't forget the prime content of r/popping.
Don't you hate on my baby, it's been hard since the breakup.
Reddit is now only useful for finding answers, not for browsing
The app is also so slow and laggy af
A subreddit I used to mod which shut down in protest when the third party apps controversy happened has completely vanished from Google search.
It’s old.reddit.com or nothing for me.
have you tried it lately? old--reddit combined with the enhancement suite was top of the top. they switched it so the "old" version is bright, and the standard reddit is dark, but lame. Looks like an imitation. AND Reddit still shows up in search results, but like someone wandered through with bleach and blood on their boots, just smashing things.
I noticed when signed out, there is a lot more fight videos, rate me, am I ugly, kinda clickbait stuff that's wasn't there before the API change. It's gross, like being on youtube while signed out.
A lot of subs I followed just seemed to be full of a lot more intolerance and a load of bots, I think moderators that remain just don't have the tools they used to have to root out these accounts
They’re too busy banning 10 year users for saying naughty words to worry about harmful bots and karma farmers and shills—it’s about priorities!
It really feels worse now, even in terms of topics in the subreddits for which there is no equivalent here.
Still, until certain things are born here or well populated, I'll still check it out from time to time.
At least, so far I seem to check it less and less and am grateful for Lemmy and its growth. I hope it keeps growing!
I maintain one of my accounts for use in getting technical help on software specific subs. I haven't noticed a decline there, they continue to deliver as much advice as they always did and with no weirdness.
I did notice though, because on that account I hadn't opted out of the redesign, that they've successfully made the new design way shittier than it even already was. It's really hard to see your messages now, which are essential for the purpose that I maintain the account because I post a question, and then get back to work knowing it could be hours or days before there's a response and I just come back to check later if anyone had any helpful advice. I now have to somehow find the messages in amongst chat features which only contain unsolicited messages from randoms about some irrelevance or another that they're pushing. Or also some other weirdness about people I'm "following" which fortunately doesn't appear to have been populated for me but is still pointless clutter that gets in the way of the actual utility of the forum.
Definitely not a fan of that shitty new design approach. It's funny actually, while I may have grumbled at developments over the years there, nothing quite bad enough could make me leave and it was only the demolition of the 3rd party apps that provided the impetus, but it was never really only the apps, I could sense something was going in a bad direction but couldn't point to any one particularly egregious thing that would merit boycotting something I actually really liked and poured a lot of time in to without sounding really petty and entitled.
Now there's this design issue and the reports that the place is starting to degrade heavily as an actual forum and I feel reassured that I left there at really just the right time rather than trying to keep swimming in the rapidly evaporating pond.
Yeah, like many things were mitigated if you used reddit only on mobile with good app, I even don't remember when I sit behind PC to browse reddit. I do know about crypto vault on official reddit app, that later learned only on crypto subbredits only you can earn crypto.I showed some cat pics from subreddit on official app and scrolling from vid to vid...And there were weird jumps from cat doing funny things only to other subreddit. So ads redirect from one sub to other when watching full screen
I haven't been back, but lemmy feels pretty hostile in most of the popular communities, with much stronger group think than I saw on Reddit. I was hoping this site was going to go in the opposite direction.
I get that sense too sometimes but then I remember reddit was like that too, just when it's big enough the group think I don't like agree with ends up on subreddits I don't browse while Lemmy I browse everything since there are less choices. (And I bet there are even tankies somewhere on Reddit, just a little less obvious.)
I also just put myself out there more on here since it's smaller and needs less lurking, and speaking up more naturally means more negative interactions. People are jerks everywhere, try not to let it get you down.
That's solid advice for life in general. Thanks!
I think what communities and instances youre on really affect that.
Like ive noticed posts within my instance (solar punk) tend to be very kind and helpful. Likely because it is a small instance full of eco friendly sci fi optimists. I even joined a discord based book club that has weekly voice chats through the instance.
Ive noticed the big conversations that end up in all (often from lemmy.ml) tend to have more bickering and general nastiness. The same was true of reddit, niche things tend to collect fewer trolls because there arent as many people there for them to mess with.
Lemmy.ml is my home instance too, so that could explain my overall experience. I started out on lemmy.world and it seemed pretty friendly. Then I switched to ML when Threads was federated because I didn't want to see Threads content. It never occurred to me that the change of tone might be from switching instances rather than Lemmy itself just growing. I guess it could be both, since I frequently browse the everything feed which has content from everywhere.
Both would make sense. Lemmy has definetly had some growing pains and lemmy.ml has been targeted quite a bit recently by bad actors. Plus since its the biggest instance, it is going to be more influenced by the energy of the new sign ups.
I hope as things continue to grow you find friendlier spaces and good discussions :)
Thanks!
I find that most of those issues are nonexistent the way I am on reddit - just use old.reddit everywhere. Yes, even on mobile. I'm special, and not in a good way, but it works.
I fear the day old.reddit gets shut down, considering the amount of communities that don't have an (alive) analog on Lemmy, so for now I use both...
On that day there will be a new flood of refugees here. Looking forward to it.
That'd be a silver lining if it were to work out that way. However, seeing the stats of old.reddit usage is depressing - it's a very small minority, would barely make a dent in reddit's traffic if every old.reddit user migrated in such a case.
My personal issue is that reddit has that critical mass to not only sustain generic wide-appeal communities, which Lemmy also achieves, but also small niche communities, which Lemmy really doesn't for the most part. Reddit needs to fuck up even worse, way worse than just discontinuing old.reddit.
Personally, I don't really care if Reddit fails, I just want Lemmy to thrive. Users of old.reddit seem likely to be high-contribution people, so it'd be great if they came here.
Yeah, I see your point. On the other hand, places like Facebook also have niche communities but people still set up on Reddit. The question is not "does it exist on Facebook?" but "is Reddit better?" Now we're in the process of working out the bugs so we can say "but Lemmy is best."
Maybe you're right. Best we can do is be active here.
I am using a shortcut to open a list of my preferred multireddits in Safari. I have the Noir dark mode app and old Reddit. only way it is bearable for me. Hard to abandon certain niche communities, but I realise in time, Reddit will become worse, and I will have to abandon it all together.
If you don't care about being able to participate, Geddit is an ok alternative on Android. It's an app skin for the RSS reddit feed with minimal functionality. No login, so no commenting or voting. But it does allow a sort of front page, still has access to nsfw content, and filters the ads. And it doesn't give reddit clicks.
I don't think I've ever experienced any spam ever in my Reddit inbox in the 14 years I've been on it. What sort of stuff do you get?
Not the guy, but a fun little side story about my reddit account is that probably multiple years ago someone tagged my username in a cryptocurrency sub or thread or something and then deleted the area I was tagged in which left me with a notification I was unable to clear or even view afterwards.
Something similar to this happened to me. Saved a comment in a sub that I no longer care for, but the comment was deleted or removed later. Now my saved feed has a blank comment from a deleted username but it's still linked to that sub. Cannot unsave it.
I got more spam Feb-June of this year on Reddit that I did in the previous 15 years. It was almost 100% only fans spam accounts too.
You're probably using old Reddit, aren't you? The difference between old Reddit and new Reddit and the Reddit app are night and day in terms of spam.
Correct, I'm not an imbecile!
The Reddit app is genuinely awful. When I saw people saying it was bad I figured they might have been exaggerating, but no, it's terrible.
I've gotten "invited to join" several subs. When I look to see what the subs are, they are just places trying to market something. I never got any spam in my inbox before the Reddit shakeup.
About a quarter of the posts in my home feed are from subs I don't subscribe to.
Social media is all about the "suggestions" now. Really pretty much every modern software will refuse to allow you to curate a feed, including subscription services like Netflix and Strava. I really don't understand why.
Since the whole fiasco started reddit took a turn, I was a scab for longer than I should have. I check in periodically specifically to keep track of Ukraine stuff, it's still a hive of activity compared to Lemmy but I don't care for it. If I was savvy I would have a script running to scraping content from Reddit and mirror it here on Lemmy to keep in tune with certain feeds.
That would probably require API access sadly
Just use the RSS feed
Which is still free up to a certain level of usage. You can do something like 10 or 30 requests per second and be fine
Checkout lemmit.online
I actually have tried to use reddit multiple times, however they've soft-disabled most new accounts. It's around a 50% chance in my experience if your account is shadowbanned immediately, with a slightly lower chance it'll be shadowbanned within a week, regardless of what you post. If you use a privacy-focused email provider or use a vpn, or use a browser that is resistant to fingerprinting, you're basically persona non-grata at reddit. Which is honestly fine with me at this point, half of all content you encounter in almost any major sub is either bot posted or "totally a legitimate user that uses the site 24/7" posted.
Yes, exactly. I was permabanned for insulting spez during the 3p shit. I wanted to see if things had changed and created a throwaway.
Of course, if you use the same browser they use IP, fingerprinting and such so I used VPNs, fingerprint randomizing browsers, protonmail and it would last maybe 4,5,6 days.
Which is fine since it’s a complete waste of time and shit content for the most part. Lots of niche communities are a real loss still tho.
So many comments are clear they are bots it’s just sad all around. I don’t get why anyone stays
I think you're either overselling their defensive capabilities (like mods there do) or the solutions you used are just leaky and awful. I've found Tor to work very well, less complicated than the solutions you presented since it's basically an all in one. I had an account on there for almost a year only through Tor so it works well, but I lost the password and since I used a throwaway email account is gone for good, but still not shadowbanned.
I have 4 other accounts (I'm not going to say which ones they are, makes the job of admins harder) still been going for over two months.
You can usually appeal shadow-bans and they overturn them I've found, you have to send an appeal showing both that you know but also pretend you don't know why otherwise they'll think they owned you.
Deleted my account, but I installed a firefox extension that forces every reddit link through the old.reddit interface and it's okay for lurking it.
Same. If I could still use boost I would probably go back often, but the official all is so incredibly, profoundly user unfriendly that I just can't
You can use Revanced to patch Boost. I used it for RIF is Fun and it works just like before the API fiasco.
I don’t know what’s going on there, but I’ve had a shitton of commenters on old thread comments that are months or a year+ old. Who is digging up old threads and replying to them, and why?
This maybe happened once a year before the whole API debacle, I’m getting 2-3 a week now.
I've gotten a couple. I went through their profiles and they are making hundreds of comments a day to seemingly random subs. I can only assume that they're bots.
I got the app when lemmy was having some issues and I needed to scratch the itch. From what I gather, the sorting options are shit. There’s only popular, home, latest, news and watch. I only downvote now, especially ads.
I've noticed it cycles between two posts I'm subscribed to, an ad, a popular on Reddit post, and a recommended community post. You can't just see what you're subscribed to anymore.
The content has become pretty boring too
I'll pop in to search for something real quick, but once I get my answer, I'm out.
One of my most favorite subs used to have the usual lovely posts and interactions. After the drama, one mod just posts a daily question. It's boring. Hardly anybody responds. I don't think people are allowed to post freely anymore, because it's just full of these boring questions. One way to take down your subreddit.
Thousands of mods have moved on. The ones that left are probably doing fire control or nothing. It shows on how much spam is everywhere suddenly.
So there are still some 3rd party reddit apps that seem to work, Orion and Reno on iOS, probably others on Android, neither are as good as Apollo (RIP) but they’re not terrible.
Once they stop working, I’m done. The shitty ads alone are enough for me to dump that trash fire.
They spared those and Atom and redreader because they would be fucked under the ADA if they didnt have something that was accesible.
I wouldn't have expected anything different.
You're not alone. Reddit is now basically just a shadow of its former self. And it's all to make money.
Don't you love it when big companies practice corporate greed? Because I f***ing don't.
Infinity for Android is subscription only as of August 31st so it's time to pull the plug for me!
still use old dot, but the moment that goes away so do I
It sucked before, too.
Reddit is nothing but a bunch of violent thugs , I had the sheer nerve to suggest non-violent passive resistance might be a viable form of protest and I was met with wave after wave of hateful responses and a downvote brigade.
Peaceful protests are a convenient way to gather everyone that disagrees with you and slaughter them all, unarmed. Just ask China about the year 1989
Or ask the British empire in India in 1947... Peaceful protests won them their independence and started the ball rolling for decolonialization worldwide.
Now tell me what happened to MLK
End result? Civil rights legislation and the end of Jim Crow Laws. He did die though, but all his immediate goals were accomplished and significant progress was made on his major goals and he is a hero to millions.
Star trek fan op?
I am. Why is that pertinent?
Can you Say why