I really hope so but the absolute shit show when he does is going to be insane. The conspiracy theories will be like nothing ever imagined. It's going to be nuts. I'd look forward to it but I could see it getting violent.
Yeah, I've been tempted to make an AskLemmy post based on that premise - "If trump dies on the campaign trail of presumably natural causes, what will the aftermath be like" conspiracy shitshow revolving around "Assassinated by the deep state" and/or "Biden directed CIA/FBI/SPLC/CCP/Pelosi to do it" is definitely going to emerge.
It was the illegal immigrant trans furry Marxists, in the classified documents bathroom, with a hamberder full of vaccines!
Trump is now the Republican Party. He defines it and has virtually no opposition. Even the primary candidates mostly ran on the idea that Trump should win.
However, he also has no successor. When he dies, there’s going to be a scramble to figure out who can be the Trumpyest. There’s not going to be an orderly handover of power. I think it’s going to fracture their voter base between traditional conservatives, who will back someone like Ted Cruz, and the batshit crazy ones, who will back a Don Jr type.
Trump, for want of a better term, has the charisma that the entire party is hanging off of right now. Republicans have handed the fate of their party over to this man, because they have no real policies to sell to voters, and Trump voters don’t care about policy. Once he’s gone, there’s no one waiting in the wings to take over.
There’sno similar phenomenon on the Democratic side. There’s a handful of candidates from 2020 that I could see running again, including Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg, as well as newer candidates like Newsom. There might be an attempt to make Harris the heir apparent, but there’s no ride or die candidate the way the gop is with Trump.
I'd love to see Ted Cruz and Ron DeSantis duke it out.
DeSantis actually scares me, he doesn't give me the deranged lunatic vibes other Republicans have. He gives me the vibes of someone who wants power, and knows how to manipulate the people around him to get it. When I found out he was running for president I was actually a little scared because I thought he had a shot. I'm glad I was wrong in that respect. Let's keep it that way, and avoid someone like that taking an elected seat.
TL;DR DeSantis gives me Hitler vibes.
Dude thought he could take Disney in a legal battle. He's just a coked up moron.
He's just a coked up moron.
Tbf, so was Hitler. Especially the last couple of years
He made a bet that he could win and instead he lost. He's not a moron, he's just too eager and played his hand early. Never underestimate a fascist.
No, he's just a coked up idiot. At first it looked like he might be a concern, but he's no more competent than Trump.
You really wouldn't. That's how we got into this mess in the first place
I'd love to see it, in the present moment. Two racists arguing over who's the most fascist. I definitely wouldn't like the outcome.
No, trust me, bro, Trump isn't dead, he just had to go undercover, like Nick Fury
Honestly, I'm surprised he's still alive giving his absolute contempt for everything remotely healthy.
The hate is keeping him alive
Like a Sith lord's ghost inhabiting a bloated, greasy corpse
He'll promptly either reincarnate or manifest as a zombie or vengeful ghost or something. Just out of spite. It's a long shot but I'm calling it.
His followers will prop him up on a golden throne that they'll swear is a "life support device", and that it's psychically broadcasting a beacon into their minds that tells them what he wants them to do.
His supporters will cryogenically preserve his body so he can keep perpetually lose every 4years.
Warhammer reference
I think Bjorn the Fell-Handed might still be more coherent though.
The US would be in a much better state if Bjorn was a political advisor.
if he wins in 2024, he’ll run in 2028, and 2032, etc. He’ll win those with 99% of the vote, just like his buddy Putin.
He won't run. He'll waddle.
Well, thankfully I feel like he's statistically unlikely to all that much longer.
Ya that’s not how it work but thanks for your fiction story
He will keep the campaign going for as long as he lives to keep reaping in the donations.
Exactly this. The man hasn't stopped campaigning since he rode down that escalator in 2016. A month after his inauguration in 2017 he kicked off his 2020 re-election campaign so the donations could keep coming.
And then his "friends" and family will continue the tradition. The grift must go on! Until the cult dies or finds a better daddy.
If he's not dead of course he would, he's a malignant narcissist that we're going to be dealing with until he croaks.
Lose? Nah. If he doesn't win the election, we'll get Insurrection 2.0. Then he's either imprisoned, dead, or we get to live in a dictatorship.
Even likes to think the problems will go away if Trump dies. He's just the worm in the rotten apple. The apple is still rotten.
I think it’s less being blinded he’s just a symptom and more hope that he’s a one of a kind cult of personality that no one can replicate to unite the crazies again.
🤣
He seems like he's deteriorating rapidly, would be surprised if he made it to 2028. I expect if he loses in 2024 he won't run again but will keep conning his followers for money and repeating the stale line that he never lost even when he did.
then use all that capital for Don Jr. 2028
You think so? Ivanka is his clear favourite, I thought for sure she would be the chosen successor
kissinger made 100
Hopefully he’s died of a massive burger induced heart problem
I wouldn't be surprised if both Trump and Biden die of natural causes in September/October, throwing the November election into chaos as no one has anyone to vote for anymore.
It's just the sort of chaos this timeline seems to crave.
It might be an okay outcome. No T means split R vote and no B means Kamala becomes first female president. Maybe she runs again, maybe there's a new nominee.
I don't think much changes other than losing the spearhead of the MAGA bullshit, although someone will inevitably take that place.
lol what if he died on the last day of his term and we had a woman president for one day
Thankfully I don’t have that worry with Biden. He’s quite fit and healthy, in great shape considering his age. So he has far great chances of surviving each day.
Being fit and healthy doesn't really exclude much at that age, anything can happen.
My grandpa was fit as a fiddle at 86 outside gardening everyday, then got kidney cancer and a bunch of other stuff all at once, pretty much bedridden within a year.
Hopefully that’s how I die too
In response to most of the people in this thread:
Idk, y'all. The biggest assholes never die. They stay alive out of sheer spite.
How long did Kissinger stay alive. That monster was responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths all around the world.
one whole century
Its unbelievable. I hope that fucks in hell.
Remember: narcissists are psychologically incapable of imagining themselves no longer existing. He thinks he'll live forever because he literally can't conceive of any other possibility.
I'd bet if he loses in '24 his health will start declining quickly and will use health related reasons as a means to avoid punishment for crimes committed.
I mean, it’s likely the same will happen if he wins.
Dementia doesn't just go away.
I hope he will be running from a psycho with a shank at ADX Florence in 2028. There’s a decent chance he will be dead in 2028 though. He’s not exactly the picture of fitness and good health. He’s an old, fat pig who lives on junk food.
More seriously, he has zero chance in 2028 if he loses in 2024, which is almost certainly what will happen. He’s been decisively rejected by voters once already. I find it hard to believe he has won over any new voters with his behavior since the last election.
Or maybe the government will step up and treat him like the terrorist that he is. If it was anyone else, they’d be waterboarding him with Diet Coke at Guantanamo right now. I mean, he’s openly calling for states to send the National Guard to Texas to fight the federal government. This fucker is on trial for insurrection and he’s out trying to incite another insurrection. Holy shit.
He’s had his deranged followers make threats against judges, prosecutors, federal agents, etc. He’s threatened his opponent in the primaries with a federal investigation if she doesn’t drop out of the race. He’s threatened her donors.
This dude is straight up nuts. I think it’s a legitimate question whether he’s eventually detained for the safety of the public pending his trials. At what point do the feds have an obligation to protect the country from this lunatic?
Forget about him and 2028. He might not even make it through 2024.
Weeds don't die. I wouldn't be surprised if the fat fuck chokes on a burger tomorrow... But i also wouldn't be surprised if he lives another 20 years
Yeah, shitty thing about death is it kind of just does what it wants.
100%, he won't go away until he's forced to
He’ll be dead by 2028. Hopefully in a supermax and suffering up until his last moment.
Or in jail
Prison. Not jail.
Trump appears to be suffering from a serious cognitive decline since he was last president. He was never the sharpest spoon in the drawer, but it's bad now. If he's still alive in five years, I don't think he'll be capable of doing anything other than drooling on himself.
That sort of does not answer the question, seeing some US senators in the news that are barely pushed around.
I wonder if the stress of being in court every day is starting to take a toll.
Trump is old. Republicans have been stressing how old Biden is--and using his life-long speech impediment as evidence--but Trump trails Biden by only four years of age. They're both at an age where you start seeing a sharp divergence in cognitive abilities, where some people take a nosedive into dementia and senility, while other people retain their mental faculties while their body fails. Trump seems to be the former.
Absolutely. He's that stupid.
I don't think he'd survive that long.
and if he did, that syphilitic brain of his would prevent him from even being viable to everyone but the ones who have trump flavoraid for blood.
He'll probably be dead by then, but the Republican Party will come up with another candidate who's even worse.
My guess is Jacob Chansley.
Wishful thinking but the elites don't mingle with the prolies, even if they are loyal idiots. I agree with Trump hopefully being dead by then. My guess is another DeSantis campaign but with some weird Trump martyrdom elements tbh. The cumulative conservative seething that 4 more years of Biden coupled with the death of their God Emperor will produce will rally them more than we've ever seen, I believe
my guess is that in that situation all of the trump sycophants will be so fractured trying to attract the cult that they won't gain enough support to mount a meaningful challenge. they'll be too busy knifing each other in the back. I've never seen game of thrones, but I hear that's how a lot of it went.
Trump is cursed to live until he Makes America Great Again. He will run election after election, with unnatural longevity, but once he gets back in office he only has one term left to find the error of his ways, discover Wisdom in Friendship, and bring moral-philosophy-flavour-of-the-month to the troubled but inherently glorious institution of American politics, or the curse will be fulfilled and he will spend eternity haunting golf clubs and expensive hotels not quite dead but never quite alive.
...
Tune in later to part II, where, in a world taken over by the all-powerful EU, Donald's seventh descendent learns of the calamity of his forefather and sets out to rediscover the truth about America and set her people free from the tyranny of socialised healthcare. Coming soon: "The Seventh Trump"
Followed shortly after with direct-to-TV prequels "Seals and Fur Hats: the Decline of True America"; and sequels, "Bowling with the Ghosts of Presidents Past, Present and Future."
... That's honestly a pretty good plot hook
Damn, I'd play this JRPG! (unless it's directed by Katsura Hashino)
Not really, but I don't think it much matters.
If Trump hit upon a political strategy that is effective, then someone else will presumably use it, absent a change in the political environment.
Trump is a little unique billy goat here. There won't be another Trump. it'll be different next time
He will be dead but I would expect him to try a run.
I don't think he'll be alive in 2028 TBH, but if he doesn't hamberder himself to death before then, I think he'd run either way.
Is it a requirement these days to be a super old white man to be president of the united states?
Yes. Obama represented the end of an era. We are now in the phase of US history when it’s only old white men who are president.
Well, there's a minimum age requirement. Any one running for that office will need to meet that. And it's kinda "old."
35 is "old"?
It's like two stacked teenagers. If you are 17, someone who is 34 is ancient. :)
Totally. That's what I'm imagining, a 17 year old calling the minimum age to be president too high. Can't even vote.
Hard to run from jail (please)
Wouldn't be the first time.
Probably and Republicans will be too stupid to go with anyone else, hopefully he's on his deathbed by then (if not gone sooner). At least Democrats will have to run somebody else, though not sure who in the current Democrat party would rise to the top. Hillary might make another go at it, but I could see Newsom or Warren going after it as well, but nobody really strong comes to mind.
Hillary might make another go at it
This is both terrifying and entirely plausible.
Hillary might make another go at it
She's a smart woman, surely she must have realized by now that nobody likes her
Ehhh, I'd have thought she had realized that the first go around, however, she actually did win the popular vote against Trump in 2016 (Hillary: 65,853,625 votes (48.0%) vs Trump: 62,985,106 votes (45.9%)), so it's entirely plausible that she doesn't realize that.
I'm assuming you mean when she lost the primary to Barack Obama in 2008. It's hard to argue that it was proof that she was unpopular when Obama went on to win the general election by such a huge margin, and even his reelection by a comfortable margin. It just serves as proof that Obama was extremely popular, moreso than her.
2016, OTOH, showed that the people (through a skewed system) preferred Trump to her. That's a hard reality to dismiss.
Well, when he dies, I’m gonna create a ton of Parler and truth social bot accounts and spread conspiracy theories with the end goal of persuading idiots on the alt-right to mount write-in campaigns for Trump.
But I will absolutely not consider doing that until he is dead and buried.
Get ready for trump jr
This my fear and my assumption, yes. Someone is going to ride the wave of Trump's popularity after his death or retirement, and blood relation is a strong candidate
For all his faults, Donald uniquely has the charisma to pull this act off. His children are all rizzless goofs. My personal feeling is that anyone trying to do "The Trump" will fail miserably. What we're more likely to see is someone else come along with a different style but that's also charismatic.
Yeah, everyone else trying to be Trump 2 has spilled their spaghetti. Ramaswamy even tried to out crazy Trump and make up for the batshit insanity of his ideas by just doing a Benny Shaps and talking fast, and he couldn't beat old puddin' fingers. DeSantis tried his ass off to set himself up as the rightful heir to the throne, and ended up speedrunning a failed campaign. Haley's having better success by just trying to do her own thing. I kinda think that MAGA is really a cult of personality around Trump, and there isn't really a MAGA movement without him.
Anyway, if he runs again in 2028, man, just drag America out behind the shed and put it down. It's just getting too painful to watch.
I honestly thought DeSantis stood a better chance. He's got the traditionally ideal resume, although he failed to really leverage that in his campaign, probably out of fear of angering the MAGA base. He's certainly smarter than Trump and possibly more malevolent. But, he lacks the charisma and personality of a used care salesman and doesn't have the Vince McMahon like faux tough guy image that Trump has spent a few decades honing.
Trump is a moron, but he's smart enough to know that there is an alarmingly large segment of the American population for whom politics is like wrestling. He doesn't have to deliver on jack shit. He just has to put on a great show and the "fans"will keep coming back for more and emptying their pockets for him on the way in. Hell, that's what he's done for his whole career.
Haley knows she can't compete in that arena which is why she isn't even trying. She's hoping to pick up enough disgruntled traditional Republicans to make a dent but I'm not not sure there are enough left to give her any serious momentum.
If his base doesn't learn that they're supporting a grifting criminal, and he continues to be able to fleece them unabated, sure.
Running for his life I hope
Absolutely. He’ll also run again if he wins, because his Supreme Court will decidee that a two-term-limit is unconstitutional.
He'll be in prison
Since when has a politician known when to quit?
George Washington?
Adams was his puppet, he was a shadow leader until he bleed to death in a dark ritual to extend his life gone wrong
He did serve for two terms. Back then, that was the most someone could do. The idea he could've been a monarch if he wished isn't exactly accurate given the combination of public pressure, the way other founding fathers weighed in, and the fact that America's then-neighboring allies the Haudenosaunee civilization was already a democracy superior to even the ancient Greeks.
Back then, that was the most someone could do.
Source?
I meant in terms of doing anything afterwards such as tangibly commentate.
"The ancient Greeks" those didn't exactly have very good democracies.
I meant that with the perspective of someone in mind who lived back then and would've thought the Greeks were the bee's knees. If you lived back then and thought someone was doing better than the Greeks, you would feel humbled because the prevailing idea was that the Greeks accomplished a lot of things that they didn't actually accomplish.
Are you saying Clinton writes opinion pieces under the pseudonym John Pavlovitz?
Also, are you saying that politicians should just sit down and die when they don't win something? I mean, based on your rhetoric, you seem like the exact kind of person that thinks all politicians should just die, so I wouldn't be surprised.
No, I'm saying that with great power comes great responsibility and that there are those who quit because their contributions have been fully extracted from them and there are those who are drawn to the position like a mouse to cheese which manifests in what I describe, politicians with a drive that isn't synchronized with how much they bring to the table, because that wouldn't make things so consistent. Why else do you think celebrities like Donald Trump and Kanye West are running for president? Even after Hillary Clinton dropped out, although the article isn't hers, the gist is a common theme in her circle.
I almost hope he tries. I don’t think the Republican Party would even be deranged enough to endorse him. If he ran, it would be pure ego, and he’d run as an independent.
It would be sad, pathetic, and amusing all at the same time. After everything he’s done, he deserves that kind of humiliation.
Idk man I was saying the same thing four years ago and look where we are now
Only he knows for sure, but I suspect for an older man like himself. He might just wanna retire.
Hopefully he's dead (from natural causes) or in jail (from natural consequences).
Hopefully he's dead (from natural consequences).
Hopefully he's undead. From supernatural consequences.
If ever there was a lich in the making...
A demented lich would be kinda awesome. Gotta talk to my DM...
Pssst.
He'll be dead.
I really hope so but the absolute shit show when he does is going to be insane. The conspiracy theories will be like nothing ever imagined. It's going to be nuts. I'd look forward to it but I could see it getting violent.
Yeah, I've been tempted to make an AskLemmy post based on that premise - "If trump dies on the campaign trail of presumably natural causes, what will the aftermath be like" conspiracy shitshow revolving around "Assassinated by the deep state" and/or "Biden directed CIA/FBI/SPLC/CCP/Pelosi to do it" is definitely going to emerge.
It was the illegal immigrant trans furry Marxists, in the classified documents bathroom, with a hamberder full of vaccines!
Trump is now the Republican Party. He defines it and has virtually no opposition. Even the primary candidates mostly ran on the idea that Trump should win.
However, he also has no successor. When he dies, there’s going to be a scramble to figure out who can be the Trumpyest. There’s not going to be an orderly handover of power. I think it’s going to fracture their voter base between traditional conservatives, who will back someone like Ted Cruz, and the batshit crazy ones, who will back a Don Jr type.
Trump, for want of a better term, has the charisma that the entire party is hanging off of right now. Republicans have handed the fate of their party over to this man, because they have no real policies to sell to voters, and Trump voters don’t care about policy. Once he’s gone, there’s no one waiting in the wings to take over.
There’sno similar phenomenon on the Democratic side. There’s a handful of candidates from 2020 that I could see running again, including Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg, as well as newer candidates like Newsom. There might be an attempt to make Harris the heir apparent, but there’s no ride or die candidate the way the gop is with Trump.
I'd love to see Ted Cruz and Ron DeSantis duke it out.
DeSantis actually scares me, he doesn't give me the deranged lunatic vibes other Republicans have. He gives me the vibes of someone who wants power, and knows how to manipulate the people around him to get it. When I found out he was running for president I was actually a little scared because I thought he had a shot. I'm glad I was wrong in that respect. Let's keep it that way, and avoid someone like that taking an elected seat.
TL;DR DeSantis gives me Hitler vibes.
Dude thought he could take Disney in a legal battle. He's just a coked up moron.
Tbf, so was Hitler. Especially the last couple of years
He made a bet that he could win and instead he lost. He's not a moron, he's just too eager and played his hand early. Never underestimate a fascist.
No, he's just a coked up idiot. At first it looked like he might be a concern, but he's no more competent than Trump.
You really wouldn't. That's how we got into this mess in the first place
I'd love to see it, in the present moment. Two racists arguing over who's the most fascist. I definitely wouldn't like the outcome.
No, trust me, bro, Trump isn't dead, he just had to go undercover, like Nick Fury
Honestly, I'm surprised he's still alive giving his absolute contempt for everything remotely healthy.
The hate is keeping him alive
Like a Sith lord's ghost inhabiting a bloated, greasy corpse
He'll promptly either reincarnate or manifest as a zombie or vengeful ghost or something. Just out of spite. It's a long shot but I'm calling it.
His followers will prop him up on a golden throne that they'll swear is a "life support device", and that it's psychically broadcasting a beacon into their minds that tells them what he wants them to do.
His supporters will cryogenically preserve his body so he can keep perpetually lose every 4years.
Warhammer reference
I think Bjorn the Fell-Handed might still be more coherent though.
The US would be in a much better state if Bjorn was a political advisor.
if he wins in 2024, he’ll run in 2028, and 2032, etc. He’ll win those with 99% of the vote, just like his buddy Putin.
He won't run. He'll waddle.
Well, thankfully I feel like he's statistically unlikely to all that much longer.
Ya that’s not how it work but thanks for your fiction story
He will keep the campaign going for as long as he lives to keep reaping in the donations.
Exactly this. The man hasn't stopped campaigning since he rode down that escalator in 2016. A month after his inauguration in 2017 he kicked off his 2020 re-election campaign so the donations could keep coming.
And then his "friends" and family will continue the tradition. The grift must go on! Until the cult dies or finds a better daddy.
If he's not dead of course he would, he's a malignant narcissist that we're going to be dealing with until he croaks.
Lose? Nah. If he doesn't win the election, we'll get Insurrection 2.0. Then he's either imprisoned, dead, or we get to live in a dictatorship.
Even likes to think the problems will go away if Trump dies. He's just the worm in the rotten apple. The apple is still rotten.
I think it’s less being blinded he’s just a symptom and more hope that he’s a one of a kind cult of personality that no one can replicate to unite the crazies again.
🤣
He seems like he's deteriorating rapidly, would be surprised if he made it to 2028. I expect if he loses in 2024 he won't run again but will keep conning his followers for money and repeating the stale line that he never lost even when he did.
then use all that capital for Don Jr. 2028
You think so? Ivanka is his clear favourite, I thought for sure she would be the chosen successor
kissinger made 100
Hopefully he’s died of a massive burger induced heart problem
I wouldn't be surprised if both Trump and Biden die of natural causes in September/October, throwing the November election into chaos as no one has anyone to vote for anymore.
It's just the sort of chaos this timeline seems to crave.
It might be an okay outcome. No T means split R vote and no B means Kamala becomes first female president. Maybe she runs again, maybe there's a new nominee.
I don't think much changes other than losing the spearhead of the MAGA bullshit, although someone will inevitably take that place.
lol what if he died on the last day of his term and we had a woman president for one day
Thankfully I don’t have that worry with Biden. He’s quite fit and healthy, in great shape considering his age. So he has far great chances of surviving each day.
Being fit and healthy doesn't really exclude much at that age, anything can happen.
My grandpa was fit as a fiddle at 86 outside gardening everyday, then got kidney cancer and a bunch of other stuff all at once, pretty much bedridden within a year.
Hopefully that’s how I die too
In response to most of the people in this thread:
Idk, y'all. The biggest assholes never die. They stay alive out of sheer spite.
How long did Kissinger stay alive. That monster was responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths all around the world.
one whole century
Its unbelievable. I hope that fucks in hell.
Remember: narcissists are psychologically incapable of imagining themselves no longer existing. He thinks he'll live forever because he literally can't conceive of any other possibility.
I'd bet if he loses in '24 his health will start declining quickly and will use health related reasons as a means to avoid punishment for crimes committed.
I mean, it’s likely the same will happen if he wins.
Dementia doesn't just go away.
I hope he will be running from a psycho with a shank at ADX Florence in 2028. There’s a decent chance he will be dead in 2028 though. He’s not exactly the picture of fitness and good health. He’s an old, fat pig who lives on junk food.
More seriously, he has zero chance in 2028 if he loses in 2024, which is almost certainly what will happen. He’s been decisively rejected by voters once already. I find it hard to believe he has won over any new voters with his behavior since the last election.
Or maybe the government will step up and treat him like the terrorist that he is. If it was anyone else, they’d be waterboarding him with Diet Coke at Guantanamo right now. I mean, he’s openly calling for states to send the National Guard to Texas to fight the federal government. This fucker is on trial for insurrection and he’s out trying to incite another insurrection. Holy shit.
He’s had his deranged followers make threats against judges, prosecutors, federal agents, etc. He’s threatened his opponent in the primaries with a federal investigation if she doesn’t drop out of the race. He’s threatened her donors.
This dude is straight up nuts. I think it’s a legitimate question whether he’s eventually detained for the safety of the public pending his trials. At what point do the feds have an obligation to protect the country from this lunatic?
Forget about him and 2028. He might not even make it through 2024.
Weeds don't die. I wouldn't be surprised if the fat fuck chokes on a burger tomorrow... But i also wouldn't be surprised if he lives another 20 years
Yeah, shitty thing about death is it kind of just does what it wants.
100%, he won't go away until he's forced to
He’ll be dead by 2028. Hopefully in a supermax and suffering up until his last moment.
Or in jail
Prison. Not jail.
Trump appears to be suffering from a serious cognitive decline since he was last president. He was never the sharpest spoon in the drawer, but it's bad now. If he's still alive in five years, I don't think he'll be capable of doing anything other than drooling on himself.
That sort of does not answer the question, seeing some US senators in the news that are barely pushed around.
I wonder if the stress of being in court every day is starting to take a toll.
Trump is old. Republicans have been stressing how old Biden is--and using his life-long speech impediment as evidence--but Trump trails Biden by only four years of age. They're both at an age where you start seeing a sharp divergence in cognitive abilities, where some people take a nosedive into dementia and senility, while other people retain their mental faculties while their body fails. Trump seems to be the former.
Absolutely. He's that stupid.
I don't think he'd survive that long. and if he did, that syphilitic brain of his would prevent him from even being viable to everyone but the ones who have trump flavoraid for blood.
He'll probably be dead by then, but the Republican Party will come up with another candidate who's even worse.
My guess is Jacob Chansley.
Wishful thinking but the elites don't mingle with the prolies, even if they are loyal idiots. I agree with Trump hopefully being dead by then. My guess is another DeSantis campaign but with some weird Trump martyrdom elements tbh. The cumulative conservative seething that 4 more years of Biden coupled with the death of their God Emperor will produce will rally them more than we've ever seen, I believe
my guess is that in that situation all of the trump sycophants will be so fractured trying to attract the cult that they won't gain enough support to mount a meaningful challenge. they'll be too busy knifing each other in the back. I've never seen game of thrones, but I hear that's how a lot of it went.
Trump is cursed to live until he Makes America Great Again. He will run election after election, with unnatural longevity, but once he gets back in office he only has one term left to find the error of his ways, discover Wisdom in Friendship, and bring moral-philosophy-flavour-of-the-month to the troubled but inherently glorious institution of American politics, or the curse will be fulfilled and he will spend eternity haunting golf clubs and expensive hotels not quite dead but never quite alive.
...
Tune in later to part II, where, in a world taken over by the all-powerful EU, Donald's seventh descendent learns of the calamity of his forefather and sets out to rediscover the truth about America and set her people free from the tyranny of socialised healthcare. Coming soon: "The Seventh Trump"
Followed shortly after with direct-to-TV prequels "Seals and Fur Hats: the Decline of True America"; and sequels, "Bowling with the Ghosts of Presidents Past, Present and Future."
... That's honestly a pretty good plot hook
Damn, I'd play this JRPG! (unless it's directed by Katsura Hashino)
Not really, but I don't think it much matters.
If Trump hit upon a political strategy that is effective, then someone else will presumably use it, absent a change in the political environment.
Trump is a little unique billy goat here. There won't be another Trump. it'll be different next time
He will be dead but I would expect him to try a run.
I don't think he'll be alive in 2028 TBH, but if he doesn't hamberder himself to death before then, I think he'd run either way.
Is it a requirement these days to be a super old white man to be president of the united states?
Yes. Obama represented the end of an era. We are now in the phase of US history when it’s only old white men who are president.
Kinda
Well, there's a minimum age requirement. Any one running for that office will need to meet that. And it's kinda "old."
35 is "old"?
It's like two stacked teenagers. If you are 17, someone who is 34 is ancient. :)
Totally. That's what I'm imagining, a 17 year old calling the minimum age to be president too high. Can't even vote.
Hard to run from jail (please)
Wouldn't be the first time.
Probably and Republicans will be too stupid to go with anyone else, hopefully he's on his deathbed by then (if not gone sooner). At least Democrats will have to run somebody else, though not sure who in the current Democrat party would rise to the top. Hillary might make another go at it, but I could see Newsom or Warren going after it as well, but nobody really strong comes to mind.
This is both terrifying and entirely plausible.
She's a smart woman, surely she must have realized by now that nobody likes her
Ehhh, I'd have thought she had realized that the first go around, however, she actually did win the popular vote against Trump in 2016 (Hillary: 65,853,625 votes (48.0%) vs Trump: 62,985,106 votes (45.9%)), so it's entirely plausible that she doesn't realize that.
I'm assuming you mean when she lost the primary to Barack Obama in 2008. It's hard to argue that it was proof that she was unpopular when Obama went on to win the general election by such a huge margin, and even his reelection by a comfortable margin. It just serves as proof that Obama was extremely popular, moreso than her.
2016, OTOH, showed that the people (through a skewed system) preferred Trump to her. That's a hard reality to dismiss.
Well, when he dies, I’m gonna create a ton of Parler and truth social bot accounts and spread conspiracy theories with the end goal of persuading idiots on the alt-right to mount write-in campaigns for Trump.
But I will absolutely not consider doing that until he is dead and buried.
Get ready for trump jr
This my fear and my assumption, yes. Someone is going to ride the wave of Trump's popularity after his death or retirement, and blood relation is a strong candidate
For all his faults, Donald uniquely has the charisma to pull this act off. His children are all rizzless goofs. My personal feeling is that anyone trying to do "The Trump" will fail miserably. What we're more likely to see is someone else come along with a different style but that's also charismatic.
Yeah, everyone else trying to be Trump 2 has spilled their spaghetti. Ramaswamy even tried to out crazy Trump and make up for the batshit insanity of his ideas by just doing a Benny Shaps and talking fast, and he couldn't beat old puddin' fingers. DeSantis tried his ass off to set himself up as the rightful heir to the throne, and ended up speedrunning a failed campaign. Haley's having better success by just trying to do her own thing. I kinda think that MAGA is really a cult of personality around Trump, and there isn't really a MAGA movement without him.
Anyway, if he runs again in 2028, man, just drag America out behind the shed and put it down. It's just getting too painful to watch.
I honestly thought DeSantis stood a better chance. He's got the traditionally ideal resume, although he failed to really leverage that in his campaign, probably out of fear of angering the MAGA base. He's certainly smarter than Trump and possibly more malevolent. But, he lacks the charisma and personality of a used care salesman and doesn't have the Vince McMahon like faux tough guy image that Trump has spent a few decades honing.
Trump is a moron, but he's smart enough to know that there is an alarmingly large segment of the American population for whom politics is like wrestling. He doesn't have to deliver on jack shit. He just has to put on a great show and the "fans"will keep coming back for more and emptying their pockets for him on the way in. Hell, that's what he's done for his whole career.
Haley knows she can't compete in that arena which is why she isn't even trying. She's hoping to pick up enough disgruntled traditional Republicans to make a dent but I'm not not sure there are enough left to give her any serious momentum.
If his base doesn't learn that they're supporting a grifting criminal, and he continues to be able to fleece them unabated, sure.
Running for his life I hope
Absolutely. He’ll also run again if he wins, because his Supreme Court will decidee that a two-term-limit is unconstitutional.
He'll be in prison
Since when has a politician known when to quit?
George Washington?
Adams was his puppet, he was a shadow leader until he bleed to death in a dark ritual to extend his life gone wrong
He did serve for two terms. Back then, that was the most someone could do. The idea he could've been a monarch if he wished isn't exactly accurate given the combination of public pressure, the way other founding fathers weighed in, and the fact that America's then-neighboring allies the Haudenosaunee civilization was already a democracy superior to even the ancient Greeks.
Source?
I meant in terms of doing anything afterwards such as tangibly commentate.
"The ancient Greeks" those didn't exactly have very good democracies.
I meant that with the perspective of someone in mind who lived back then and would've thought the Greeks were the bee's knees. If you lived back then and thought someone was doing better than the Greeks, you would feel humbled because the prevailing idea was that the Greeks accomplished a lot of things that they didn't actually accomplish.
Clinton hasn't run since she "lost" to Trump.
Clinton is still active in other areas though and still brings it up like she is owed.
Are you saying Clinton writes opinion pieces under the pseudonym John Pavlovitz?
Also, are you saying that politicians should just sit down and die when they don't win something? I mean, based on your rhetoric, you seem like the exact kind of person that thinks all politicians should just die, so I wouldn't be surprised.
No, I'm saying that with great power comes great responsibility and that there are those who quit because their contributions have been fully extracted from them and there are those who are drawn to the position like a mouse to cheese which manifests in what I describe, politicians with a drive that isn't synchronized with how much they bring to the table, because that wouldn't make things so consistent. Why else do you think celebrities like Donald Trump and Kanye West are running for president? Even after Hillary Clinton dropped out, although the article isn't hers, the gist is a common theme in her circle.
I almost hope he tries. I don’t think the Republican Party would even be deranged enough to endorse him. If he ran, it would be pure ego, and he’d run as an independent.
It would be sad, pathetic, and amusing all at the same time. After everything he’s done, he deserves that kind of humiliation.
Idk man I was saying the same thing four years ago and look where we are now
Only he knows for sure, but I suspect for an older man like himself. He might just wanna retire.
He'll never retire unless it's in prison