I had some that looked exactly like this

Sjmarf@sh.itjust.works to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 1357 points –
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Yeah, we called them "Portables." They were there long before I came, and will be there long after I am dead. Long live our plywood fortresses.

For me it was containers like these:

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Long live our tin fortresses

At least you had windows. My kids are in a pretty new school building, but most of the classrooms are located in the middle of the building without windows and natural light. Seems like another one of those "only in America" things.

Yeah the "middle" was the school yard surrounded by narrow buildings

My school had several holes in the middle of the building to avoid this. Most of them just have gravel at the bottom

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What's with the cable at the top between sections?

Not only at the top, there’s also cables at the bottom between sections and what looks like a cable duct mounted in front of it with a bunch of cables coming out at the top

The cable duct looks like ac lines, and the yellow cables at the bottom are probably grounding

Grounding, to make sure the containers stay at the same electric potential

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I'm pretty sure ours was asbestos.. back in the 80s.

Portables

Yup, that's what I was told they were called.

I was searching the thread to see if everyone called them that or if it was regional.

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I remember showing up for tenth grade, looking at the list of assigned classrooms in the first day of the school year. Instead of the usual the digit number, it said "C1". My classmates showed up, and we're just as confused as I was.

The C turned out to be short for "container", which we found in a corner of the school grounds.

That said, being able to quickly go outside in every break was pretty neat. And the school actually did get a second building only a few years later.

Walking through the snow in the Canadian winter from your warm school hallway to the portable for that one class was always torture.

I went to school in Aurora in the 90s but didn’t have to suffer any of these containers. Moved to Virginia and had a bunch of classes in them

Welcome to government funding.

School District: we need a new school

Enrollment: 4200

Government: Awesome, here's $4.2 million, go build the 4200 student school.

SD: Uhh, won't that take a few years? Should we add some buffer space to the plan?

Government: ehh, naah

Spongebob 3 years later: Welcome to Springfield High School!

Enrollment: 6900

Springfield: see, gooberment, we needed more classrooms!

Gooberment: heh, would you look at that. Lol. Well, use your budget to build some portables.

SD: Us? Why don't you pay!?!?

Gooberment: Oh, haha, yeah, that's an operating expense. We only fund capital projects! Don't worry, give us a plan to expand and we can fund you in 10 years

10 years later: Ok gooberment, our numbers say we need 15 classrooms. But for the expansion, we should do 25 for future proofing

Gooberment: Oh, but you only need 15 now? Yeah here's money for 15

2 years later: Here's 15 classrooms!

SD: We need 25...

Gooberment: Oh, yeah, get some portables and talk to us in a few years!

Rinse and repeat

was really confused how spongebob fit into this story for awhile

Happened to me except the plan was the school to expand the number of grades in the school year after year to prevent pulling kids out of their current schools

And they built it to be at capacity day 1

For anyone interested: This meme has been posted by bots to a Reddit community I was active in back then very often.
A bot would mirror these Reddit posts in a Discord server and because this exact meme has been posted there so often, it became an insider at some point, with various people always posting this meme again (because that was itself funny).

That's why I can't take this meme seriously at all.

Why the hell are you taking a meme seriously in the first place. You see it, laugh if it resonates and move on.

laugh if it resonates

That's what I mean with taking it seriously. You see it and its contents genuinely as the joke it displays.

In our group, it just became a meta-level-joke because we've seen it so often by spam bots and the joke was to re-post it as the newest most original joke one has ever thought of (but without it mattering what's actually on the image); and that was funny.

But reposts trigger me beyond belief! I feel bad downloading them even though we're on a completely different platform. I can't control my emotions though so I just had to justify my feelings to everyone otherwise I'd feel bad.

Geez, what are you talking about? I just wanted to share a fun story I remembered when seeing this image.

It just felt a bit sad and jaded like someone needed to get off internet for a bit but is still addicted lol.

It does give off serious REPOST vibes but... Longer lol.

That sucks man. Hopefully you’ll stop caring one day.

Thank you for well wishes. I'm tormented by reposts nearly as bad as incels are tormented by PizzaCakeComics.

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In our town, one of the schools was just built 5 years ago. They built it without classrooms. Not a single one. They had a gym, common areas, admin offices, IT infrastructure (office with a server room became the councillors office and the IT guy needs to ask permission to use it lol), bathrooms and library. They designed it so it could be made entirely with portables. From the onset.

They designed it so it could be made entirely with portables.

wtf....

Right? To be fair, they used some of the nicest portables I've ever seen. Two portables to a class, windows, a semi permanent foundation, plumbing, HVAC hookup, networking, the works. I had to install WAPs in the drop tile, and it was not the worst thing I've had to do there.

My charter school operated similarly to this. In a sense it's kinda smart on dwindling budgets. If the portables are decent enough it allows the school to rearrange or expand without massive construction/demolition costs.

In the end most classrooms don't need a whole lot, right?

Speculation, of course. Just for once I hope there's not some evil cynical reason behind the way things are done lol .

Hell the house I live in was also made to be temporary, for factory workers almos 100 years ago

You're temporary.

Sometimes when I consider how literally everything is temporary, it does help me set my priorities and let go of some things.

Yeah a kind of positive nihilism. I've used that too. I've since learned that this kind of "big picture-ing" (just keep zooming perspective out until problem goes away) is a coping mechanism sometimes referred to as "intellectualising."

That doesn't mean it's bad, but it is a way cope by putting some emotional distance between you and a problem, which can sometimes--what am doing...... this is the shit posting community right? My apologies lol

I have actually used the term “positive nihilism” before, lol.

It is very freeing to consider that meaning, value, happiness, and what you “should” do with your life - the right answers come only from within. Finding those answers is easier said than done, and you have to un-learn the expectations you think live has for you. (Insert Yoda quote)

Super easy personal example: I’m an engineer with a bunch of degrees. Covid caused some job changes and pain, but right now I am just over a year into the best job I’ve ever had. But even though work is great, I realized that my career does not matter for shit when it comes to my happiness. Having an infinite growth mindset in one’s career might make your money numbers go up faster, but for MY brain the overall experience of life would be diminished.

I totally agree right down to your example (I'm a software dev). The pandemic was very good to us. I never thought I would have this kind of financial stability. It's kind of led me to an anti-hustle mindset.

Now I'm taking jobs that let me work less, even though I know I could earn a lot more if I really put my back into it. It's just not worth it, though.

I've only got N years to smell the roses, may as make em good ones.

Funny enough, that current best job of mine is as a software engineer, replacing the amalgam of electronics, software, automation, quality, etc that came before. Intentional choice of course.

Fortunately there are many entertaining and enriching things you can do with adequate time and just a little extra money. Leaving yourself with more money but little time is going to make it tough to improve on what you already had.

Plus even if working less, the working hours are a significant part of your life. Is it really worth 1/3 of your life being more stressful/boring/unfulfilling just so that you get to drive a Mercedes to that shitty place?

The most permanent solution is always a temporary solution

Didn't yall call them "portables"? At one of my first public schools, they had a big long installation called a "portapac".

Might be a Canadian thing judging from some of the comments.

My elementary school in Utah, we also called them portables. Ah the memories!

It just makes me happy that the ramp is compliant with regulations. I’ve seen some pretty shitty ramps.

Does anybody remember the way the floors had a springiness to them and how they squeaked and creaked as you walked across them?

How about the mental kind of threshold-looking strip in the middle of the floor from wall to wall where I believe they had connected two halves together, if I recall?

I remember that. Along with the distinct smell they all had, the scent of whatever the portable materials were used.

And because of the compact size, all the sound has this sort of reverb to it. It's not really an echo, just an elevated hum of busy noise, with only the higher pitched ticking current going through the fluorescents.

And how that size also affected the lighting. Somehow even with the florescents it all was oddly sepia toned, no doubt because the only colors on the inside were white, grey, tan, and beige...

Ah yes, the "portables" that never moved. They're still at my old school, decades after I've left they're still in the same damn spots.

I just checked my old elementary school online. Nearly 40 years later, the same temporary buildings I had class in are still there.

"Nearly forty years ago? This person must be old," I thought. Then I did the math on how long I've been out of school. Oof. Sorry for judging your age, fellow millennial.

My high school was given a $1.5 million check by some alumni who had some success after school and wanted to give back when I was a sophomore. It was supposed to be used for a new multipurpose room and chem lab.

They never did that and instead put it all into the football program. The school now, 21 years after graduation, looks the same as it did when I went except it has a huge ass security fence around campus, a couple more "temp" buildings and the gym is hella nice.

Neighborhoods go through booms and busts of school age kids. These are actually a great solution to get through the boom, then you move them to the next booming neighborhood. Though the schools should be designed so they butt up against the main building and you can go down a hallway into them.

One school I went to has like a third the school with them, but they were down a hallway connected to the school. I didn't even realize they were portables until years later.

That happened when the school refused a number of students. The local politicians didn't like that and said the school was not allowed to refuse students anymore. When summer vacation came there were a few dozen more students signed in than they're were chairs in the school. The politicians had no choice but to do some expensive cabin building before school opened for the next year. After that, refusing new students was allowed.

In Norwegian we have this (little known) word 'permasorium', describing the everlasting provisions like these.

I like it! In German we call temporary solutions a "Provisorium" and often say that they stay for ever (Nichts hält länger als ein Provisorium). I like the idea of making a permanent Provisorium into a single word!

There's a saying in programming, which I believe applies in most disciplines, that "a temporary solution is a permanent one"; also written as, "no solution is more permanent than a temporary one."

"there's no solution so permanent as a temporary one that works"

We actually liked them when my elementary school was being renovated a million years ago when I was a child because they had AC and the old unrenovated buildings didn’t

Yeah, I had one for third grade, and since we weren’t near any drinking fountains, we got our own water cooler, which the other classes were jealous of! That place was like our little apartment, I loved it.

Had to go check my elementary school on street view... Yup, still there since 30 years ago. Painted at least!

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My school had the library in a portable unit like that. The thing was ancient, and had barely any insulation and a leaky roof. In the winter months you could see your breath while reading a slightly damp feeling book.

It was eventually demolished, it was too unsound to be portable enough to move any more.

Ah yes let us keep books made of paper in a damp leaky building. What could possibly go wrong

I thought these were temporary in that they last several decades, not several years. Permanent school buildings are intended for several generations.

I think they're called temporary because they have no foundation; if you wanted to, you could easily remove the building.

we called them demountables.

they where never demounted.

We called them portables.

My grade 3 portable is still standing. My children have been taught in it.

I was taught grade 4 in one of those

Those are rookie numbers...I did grade 4 twice in one of those

They had these in Canada too?

Absolutely. They pitched them as a way to expand space cheaply so they could save money to build a new school. We were told that our grad class of 05 would be either the last in the old school or the first in the new one.

It's still the old one.

ahh yes the "portables"

in aus they were called demountables. but i never saw a single one demounted. the ones at my old primary school are still there 30 years later.

Public schooling has gotten so strange over the last 2 decades. All these trailers, teachers begging for supplies. Would be surprised if there was some group that was trying to error public education. Is there a benefit to keeping a group of people uneducated?

Yes, they will buy Apple phones. That is to say, fall head-first into consumerism.

They were using those trailers back in 1985, but they weren't calling them temporary, it was just the only way they could afford to add classrooms instead of cramming more students in. I was even sitting in one of those watching the space shuttle failed launch on a tv on a cart with a vcr on the lower shelf.

Just checked my old elementary school, and surprisingly they're gone and what looks like new permanent buildings in another location! They were there as of 2 years ago, but now it's extra blacktop and and even more recently a solar panel array. It took about 3 decades but they finally did it.

My middle school had an entire wing built from these things. There was even an enclosed hallway with a carpeted plywood floor, and doors directly into the dozens of “temporary” rooms.

I didn’t realize it was such a trend. Somebody must have really been pushing those things for school districts that weren’t rich enough to just throw up a building.

Wait yalls had that many windows? These look nice. Ours looked like someone gutted a corrugated metal double wide and put a divider wall in the middle to make 2 "classrooms." There was 1 larger window on the backside, and 1 door in the front of each room.

I remember having to still walk out to those even though the DC sniper shot a kid at a school a few miles away.

Bowie High representing! Was walking to the same temporaries when the shooting at Tasker occurred. Small world...

I went to Roosevelt but had lots of friends from Bowie. My one friend lived right across the street from tasker.

These are incredibly useful. In Iceland we have mobile classrooms that can be moved by truck. If you need only one or two classrooms then these do the job but as soon as you get to 5 it justifies building a new wing of 10 classrooms. Incrementally building 1-2 classrooms is not the best use of public money.

What you point out makes sense, but I can't stop thinking of a classroom that's being moved as students are taking class in it 🤣 would be fun when I was a student, also it's pretty dangerous (but still fun)

You know something's afoot when those are signicantly better than the regular buildings.

The Terrapin block.

The ones at my school actually look like they've been torn down now (having lasted a good 50 years or so), and replaced with a whole new set of temporary buildings for future generations to marvel at.

Quick Look at my former HS and middle school via satellite imagery still shows the temp buildings exactly where they were when I was there. Looks like new roofing on them though. So 35 + years? And they were there for years before I attended.

Yup. Cooked in the summer, froze in the winter, leaked in the rain, they stuck half of my freshman classes out in those fuckers in tornado country.

My kid goes to a very good school in a nice neighborhood. They just added several of those trailers last year.

Idk why we don't just build 2 story schools but I'm not an architect

A lot of laws (in the States at least) require the capacity to be only what the current student enrollment numbers are at, or at what the enrollment numbers are projected to be when the building is built. This is why you almost always see brand new schools completely full within a few years of being built if they have any sort of normal growth AND why these types of mobile buildings get built. They just don't have any room whatsoever for the student growth. Some schools have started opting for "modular" buildings after the fact to get around this. They're basically permanent buildings but the building is designed so that it can accommodate just about any size room, whether it's offices, classrooms, small gyms, etc.. This allows for the building to be built and ready to go but also not require that it not be an "empty" room so they can kinda sorta have spare classrooms when needed.

money mostly. It's cheaper to do this than it is to build a whole ass new permanent building. Sometimes it's also faster. My highschool (loooong time ago) was planning basically a rolling teardown of the entire campus to rebuild everything like 4X bigger, and to accommodate that they covered a parking lot with these things for the better part of a decade, as they had to wait for summer to do the major "not safe with kids around" construction every year.

We had a couple trailers for lunch while they built the cafeteria.

They did get it done while I was there though.

Drove by the other day, they replaced them with more perminent, but still prefab buildings.

mine still has the og 90's units and even installed more. and from google earth, the main complex appears to be rotting lol

Fun fact: you don't need a DA for these*, so they are a hell of a lot cheaper to install. *Subject to jurisdiction

I haven't seen those anywhere around me - must be a US thing. I guess the whole temporary thing is more of a "we don't have permission to build anything permanent and this can be dismantled if needed", not necessarily "this will be here temporarily".

I live in the Uk, and both my primary and secondary schools had buildings exactly like these.