Right wing commentator, Ben Shapiro pictured at the Barbie movie wearing all black, frowning and holding a stack of angry notes he took during the movie.

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My producers dragged me to see 'Barbie' and it was one of the most woke movies have ever seen. My ful review of this flaming garbage heap of a film will be out on my YouTube channel tomorrow at 10am ET.

I normally post news on here but this picture is legit hilarious. Mods feel free to delete if not appropriate šŸ˜¹

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Is he ever happy with anything? Like, I'm not even here to debate his views. He just seems so miserable all the time, as if he can't find any joy in life.

Itā€™s hos job to be upset. He is happy with the money that he makes from the attention.

Yeah happiness is a free time endeavour. Every time you see any picture of Ben Shapiro, he's working.

You are describing every modern conservative ever

You see this on both sides lol

Nowhere did I say it was exclusively modern cons, but they sure are the majority

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Worked with him recently on a project ( I was an extra, I do not support their trash) and he was a tool. All the higher ups at DW were smarmy or openly rude and bitchy to the cast and crew. Especially Candace Owens. They were all so far up their own asses it was ridiculous.

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What is wrong with this dude? Going to a movie you donā€™t want to see and taking notes about it so you can complain about it online when you get home. Itā€™s so pathetic I almost feel bad for him.

Don't feel bad for him, this is how he gets paid. He's a professional asshole.

An asshole who primarily courts right-wingers an inch to the left of Neo-Nazis by making them feel logical and superior for denying basic facts about reality, while the mask-off Neo-Nazis repeatedly send death threats to his family because they're culturally Jewish.

I don't pity him. He dug his hole by choice, and it is a very comfy hole in upper-class Los Angeles where he won't experience the consequences of societal collapse that he encourages poorer right-wingers to spread around. Tough for his kids, I'd imagine, since they'll be growing up in a world with all those oven-fanatic redcaps crawling out of the woodwork that their dad turned a blind eye to for clout.

For what itā€™s worth, heā€™s not just culturally Jewish. Heā€™s an actively practicing orthodox Jew. Heā€™s wearing a yarmulka in this photo, and pretty much every photo youā€™ll see of him.

Thereā€™s a big difference between someone who was born Jewish because their mom is Jewish, and someone who is actively practicing. Not that it excuses the Neo-Nazis and antisemites. But heā€™s not just culturally Jewish.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I thought they saud "culturally Jewish" because I know a lot of people who are Jewish by birth but hardly (or never) practice.

But that could just be my rare experience, since I live in an area with plenty of Jewish people.

Yeah, thatā€™d be culturally Jewish. Someone who was born Jewish, but doesnā€™t actively practice. Theyā€™re not religiously Jewish. My point was that heā€™s actively practicing, so itā€™s not just cultural.

I remember when he was first becoming "popular" and his whole schtick was "facts don't care about your feelings" and not wanting to get into "identity politics", as a reaction to socially progressive movements and "lefties being triggered"... Till he realised he and his whole fan base live for identity politics and care more about their feelings than facts.

So now, here he is, getting mad at a movie not targeted to him because it triggers his feelings about "patriarchy good, feminism bad"

Yep. He would say it was just for a review, but if you already made your mind up that you wouldn't like it before you went in, it's not a review. He creates dishonest trash, and that's what his (extremely stupid) viewers want. They want everything to conform to the beliefs they already hold, and anything that doesn't is just proof other people are wrong, not them.

Dude's wife is a doctor, his wife, and yet he still thought "wet ass pussy" was referring to a medical condition or something. Dude doesn't even know how basic female anatomy works. And he's fucking married. To a doctor.

It was one of the most woke movies I have ever seen

translation: as a straight white dude this is Ben's first experience not being the target audience for something

Hahahhahaa this idiot

I feel like this fits nicely here :

Hahahaha, that sums up this new conservative wave perfectly.

"Woke is when I hate something, and the more I hate it, the more woke it is"

Must mean itā€™s great, canā€™t wait to see it, which is not something I expected to say.

I saw it this afternoon, I had a great time! It wasn't exactly what I was expecting, although I can't say I know exactly what I was expecting going into it... It was a lot more political than I expected, and a lot more thoughtful.

It certainly lacks subtlety, and beats you around the head with its themes (feminism, toxic masculinity, the patriarchy, empowerment, finding and accepting yourself). To be clear, I don't think it lacking subtlety is a bad thing at all; it makes it very clear what points it's addressing, and doesn't leave anything down to personal experiences, or interpretations of nuanced lines. And it has a lot of fun with it!

Apparently right-wing people are upset with it, though. Because of course they are. It's about Barbie being a strong, independent woman. It's got a lot of diversity, and it's not shy about the fact that its diversity is because Barbie dolls themselves have a lot of diversity, so yes, it's very deliberately forced diversity. It has a trans actress in - I didn't even realise she was trans until a few minutes ago when I was looking up why right-wing people are upset, but apparently it's a terrible thing. It doesn't peddle any propaganda about traditional family values either, if you can believe such a thing (which is particularly upsetting to Matt Gaetz' wife for some reason).

It's fun. It's funny. It's thoughtful. And Ryan Gosling is fantastic in it. (Margot Robbie is very good, too, but her character is a little less colourful). It won't be something that will change your entire outlook on life, or that you'll be thinking about every day for the next six months, but it's a solid ~8/10, and unless you froth at the mouth at the idea of women having shudder aGeNcY, you'll probably have a good time with it!

It's preachy, but only because Barbie is preachy. It fits the source material perfectly. All the characters are literally Barbies you have been able to buy for 50 years, so I don't know how people could be upset. Mattel is run by all dudes, and Ken is a himbo. All of these things are quintessential Barbie for decades.

It's like a comedy version of the matrix, if that makes sense. In one scene Barbie has to choose whether to stay in Barbieland or go to the real world. Instead of a red or blue pill, she has to choose between a high heel or a Birkenstock sandal.

It's actually a pretty inoffensive mirror to society without many plot holes. Not like Lord of the Rings. Why don't the eagles just drop the ring in the volcano?!?

honestly lmao at Ben being dragged in, beaten and preached at for nearly two hours with all of this. just perfect, I approve already.

Purely as a thought experiment, I wonder what would happen if we did a Clockwork Orange treatment on him with this movie?

Itā€™s like a comedy version of the matrix, if that makes sense.

well, Matrix: Russurections was clearly satire, and I laughed through the entire thing, so, yeah, that makes sense to me.

Terrific write-up, you expressed my thoughts on it much better and more succinctly than I could have.

Itā€™s about Barbie being a strong, independent woman.

What interesting is it's actually everyone else who is being strong and independent! You'll notice Barbie is not actually doing anything. All of her problems are either purely internal (existential crisis that she is navigating by observing others) OR completely external but she can't solve them herself. The mom/daughter and Ken are the ones experiencing autonomy and self-actualization, they are the ones taking direct action and driving the plot forward. Barbie is a catalyst.

Barbie is - wait for it - an accessory to help them with their personal growths! And by participating in this, Barbie is not only helping everyone else, but becoming a "real" multi-dimensional character in her own right.

I really enjoyed this movie, sorry to dig this weeks old post up lol

Don't apologise for digging it up, it's a really good comment! Barbie being an accessory to other people's growth is a brilliant way of framing it that I hadn't considered - I love that!

I also like framing it that, at the beginning of the film, everyone's identity is somewhat defined by Barbie (as a concept - not the character):

  • Barbie is obvious - she is just living the "dream" Barbie life and doesn't know anything outside of that. She struggles when she starts to gain humanity because she feels inferior to the other, more accomplished Barbies (doctor Barbie, president Barbie, astronaut Barbie, etc);
  • Ken - his entire life revolves around being "and Ken"; He exists to be Barbie's mild love interest, and is basically irrelevant when Barbie's not around;
  • The mother is basically clinging onto childhood optimism and better times by playing with Barbie. She's using Barbie as an escape, but she's also warping the concept of Barbie with her depression;
  • The daughter is wholly and actively rejecting Barbie (and her and her friends are also references to Bratz - the "anti-Barbie"), to the point where she's overly cynical, tough, bitter, and not empathetic enough.

By the end of the film, I think everyone ends up empowering and being empowered by the ideals of Barbie (the concept) while also rejecting the relationship they had with the concept at the start of the film:

  • Barbie learns to be human. She gains empathy. She sees the value in women having roles like doctor, president, astronaut, etc, but realises it shouldn't be an expectation for every woman and that she's not inferior for not having one of those jobs;
  • Ken starts his journey of discovering his own identity, rather than just being an extension of/accessory to Barbie;
  • The mother and daughter repair their relationship and the mother (we can assume) stops her "depressed Barbie" creations as her life improves.
  • The daughter realises some parts of Barbie's message are positives - that it's meant for empowerment rather than to set unrealistic expectations. So in some ways, she embraces the concept of Barbie, which is a rejection of her previous relationship with the concept.
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For reference: that sign is 5ā€™ high.

Ben Shapiro even fits in the Dreamhouse! And he has similar anatomy to Ken!

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I'm a fifty year old man. Definitely not in the demographic. But I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. I took my young adult daughters because we wanted to do barbenheimer together. I loved to messages of family and trying to improve yourself. My daughters obviously connected in a way that I didn't but that's not a problem.

In summary: Ben Shapiro is a twat.

You must not be a man anymore, did you not take notes on how you didn't connect to the movie in the same way as your daughters?

/s

The best thing about Ben Shapiro is that each day I share on this planet with him is one less day I need to coexist with Ben Shapiro.

Each day he shares on this planet with you. You gotta outlive assholes like Ben Shapiro.

Well Barbie is an accomplished woman with a bajillion jobs so it's not surprising the movie is "woke". Barbie was "woke" for her time.

I bet they make a fuck ton of money off this movie, once again disproving "go woke go broke"

Woke is here to stay, it's called human rights

"Woke" is the new "politically correct". If you want know what they really mean, just replace the word "woke" with "treating people with respect" or "respectful".

As in, "I hate treating people with respect" or "Hollywood is too respectful nowadays". "When did the world become so respectful?!?"

One thing I've heard is when conservatives use the word "woke", just replace it with "uppity", because once you cut out all the bullshit that's what they mean. To a conservative, everybody has a place in society in that there are people born onto a natural hierarchy. Black people are inferior to white people, poor people are inferior to rich people, etc., and in true Calvinist fashion it doesn't matter what choices people make, there's no action one can take to change their position. Wherever a person happens to be as an accident of birth defines their value. And in that line of thinking, the worst imaginable crime isn't murder or rape or genocide, it's upsetting the little caste system they've imposed upon the world. Woke ultimately means upsetting the caste system. That includes allowing women to have human rights, letting black people attend college, but even also applying the oh so bronze age concept of rule of law to those who commit crimes against someone "lesser than".

Conservatism is literally incompatible with civilized society in the most fundamental sense. Democracy isn't just at stake, it's the entire concept of rule of law. If conservatives had their way, every day would be like The Purge.

in true Calvinist fashion it doesnā€™t matter what choices people make, thereā€™s no action one can take to change their position.

Exactly. Like how all the "self-made men who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps" slag off on AOC for having had to work a real job once.

Even more stupid when you realize that female bartenders make the most tips from sleazy old men who think they can get flirting and phone numbers before they go home to their wives and children lmao

If you want know what they really mean, just replace the word "woke" with "treating people with respect" or "respectful".

Anyone upset at that is not worth listening to.

Unfortunately, assholes like Shapiro have a huge audience of exactly the kind of assholes who gobble this shit up.

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Oh, and they vote consistantly... do you?

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This is the epitome of "conservatives" today: unhappy, vengeful, trying to destroy things for other people, and only focused on nonsense culture-war stuff.

It makes me sad. If they just spent a fraction of the effort they use to tear things down to build something worthwhile up instead, we'd be much better off.

Don't be sad! There's people of all political groups and belief systems working hard right this moment to improve things, they are just quiet and don't draw attention to themselves... Join them and we can literally make the world a better place! šŸ˜

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The problem is that their idea of making things better usually involves ranting against and/or hurting people they don't like. I honestly can't think of a single thing their ideology would encourage building up that wouldn't be exclusionary or else harmful to multiple groups of people.

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Which is really sad. What "conservatives" are representing isn't even conservative at all; it's just regressive, authoritarian non-sense. Conservatives (real ones) have an important part to play in a properly working political system (which we don't have in the United States). Ideally, we'd have a a progressive party and a conservative party; the former looking for reforms anywhere they can, even to the point of burning down the system, and the latter urging caution and ensuring the stability and safety of the system. Instead, the U.S. has a conservative party (Democrats) and a fascist/regressive party (Republicans). So, instead of moving forward with caution, we're moving backward.

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Imagine being outraged and miserable for a living.

I've not even seen the movie, but Jesus fucking Christ.

He's so miserable which is why it makes sense that he radicalised Alexandre Bissonnette into committing the Quebec mosque shooting (even though he keeps trying to deny it)

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I zoomed in on the notes. I couldn't make it out completely, but here's what I saw:

  1. No close-ups of Barbie's feet
  2. No close-ups of Ken's feet
  3. Barbie always wearing shoes even in long shots

Believe it or not, Barbie's feet are a major plot point, there's more than one close-up, lol.

ā€œSheā€™s everything. Heā€™s just Benā€

Dude legit turned up in kids sized Chuck Norris Action Jeans and took notes in a Barbie movie. Took notes in a Barbie movie.

Ben Shapiro took notes in a Barbie movie.

How much are billboards these days?

An hour+ long toy ad from a multinational corporation is "woke"... oookie-dookie...

Why even give this a-hole the time of day? We should all just ignore him.

I mean I agree, but this is absolutely hilarious. I haven't laughed out loud in months and I just snortled the beer out from my nose. I'm dying. Send help.

The actual content of the movie is irrelevant; his reaction was foreordained, because that's his schtick. Just replace him the free-tier ChatGPT and move on. At least AI sometimes comes up with surprising/interesting takes.

Welp, I wasn't even going to go see Barbie, but now I'll go to watch it just out of spite lol.

Don't forget to mark it not safe for work if you're going to post a picture of a pussy.

He's best left ignored. Every time somebody brings him up or makes fun of him it sustains him. May he be forgotten.

This movie perfectly demonstrated being a dude. All the Kens becoming day drinking degenerates without Barbie around is literally what I did last weekend when my girlfriend went to a wedding.

She wasn't there to fetch you a broski beer?

As long as he enjoyed his alone time in his mojo dojo casa house, that's all that matters!

Fuck. I'm gonna have to go see it now, aren't I?

Anyone else ever notice dweebs always what to tell men how to be men?

He seems like a guy who secretly collect barbie dolls but dont want anyone to know because he thinks he is too tough for dolls.

If he was the kind of guy who secretly collects barbie dolls, somehow I don't think his take on WAP would have been such a self-own.

too tough for dolls

Either that or he doesn't want people to know what he does to them.

Meanwhile I will be wearing my pink "Bad Guy" Vegeta shirt and cracking jokes with my friends AFTER the movie, like a true American.

He paid to see it, and Iā€™m not going to read his notes. Wins all around except for Ben himself.

This is the "take a joke" and "don't let your feelings intrude on my humour" guy right?

This is the guy getting all pissy at a movie about dolls?

I recommend the episodes of the Behind The Bastards podcast where they read through Ben Shapiro's novel, they are hilarious.

They do his novel, his short stories, and excerpts from his books about sex. The episodes are fantastic. The writing is appalling.

Its like the rights whole identity is about being butt hurt about everything.

Almost as if they had a lot of gay sex but didnā€™t even could do that right

Fuck this guy, fuck his producers, and fuck his viewers.

I will take this as a very high endorsement of the film! Very much looking forward to it!

I mean it's still a soulless piece of corporate propaganda.

But, have you ever thought about death?

So.... this is a great endorsement for the film.

What kind of Barbie movie did he want exactly?

I presume one where barbie stays in the kitchen for two hours and cooks for Ken coming home from long days at the traditional family values factory.

Also she's barefoot for some reason.

The kind where Ken goes off on a super-badass special forces mission and says "Take a bullet for ya, babe," as he leaves the house.

He doesn't care what people say about him, as long as they keep talking about him. You can make a lot of money by being a controversial figure nowadays. Being popular by being controversial is the business model.

And it works obviously. I didn't know this guy until this post.

Unfortunately, election season is just next year, so you'll probably hear more from him

Just keep giving him the attention he's after.

As long as he has an audience of "true believers" in his bullshit, ignoring him and the impacts of the lies he spreads will continue to increase.

Bullshit needs to be called out.

All I see here is a bunch of people publicizing his PR stunt. Which is exactly the reaction he's going for.

The trick is not engaging him in a way he wants you to. Laughing at how ridiculous he is and blowing him off are fine. Making fun on him in a way that gets across you don't take him seriously is also ok.

He doesn't deserve interactions with anyone/anything that legitimizes him, but casual mocking is a good thing. Treat him like like the clown he is so others start seeing him as such.

It really doesn't matter, the things he does are predestined to give him what he wants. What matters is what we want, and what we want is to make fun of him and completely drive his ugly genocidal spirit into the ground.

Itā€™s weird, I keep wondering who this movie is for. Iā€™m pretty woke and someone would have to pay me to see it.

Wtf is that beard? Looks like he drew it on with magic marker

What a sad pathetic life of getting so upset at the most unimportant things.

Just because you're built like a tween doesn't make you the target audience Benny boy.

Fuck him with a steel dildo.

His only power is that people keep listening to what he has to say. The more you/we ignore him the less power he has.

I think making fun of people who take him seriously could help a little.

Movie was kinda mid tbh, Oppenheimer was better.

They were both pretty good. I just did a Barbenheimer, it is very much worth it to watch both.

I did the same thing, I can understand Ben's frustration since Barbie felt weirdly political in certain parts but overall Oppenheimer was just the better movie, especially if you got to see it in IMAX.

I actually kind of liked barbie better, ngl. Oppenheimer was good, but it was everything I feared it would be as an engineer whose professors repeated stories about the Manhattan project ad nauseum to me.

I'm a first year Aero Engineering student, can't wait for teachers to play this in class lol.

He really shaps my ass. In fact, Shap IS an ass.

You talkin' 'bout Shap?
He's bad, and a mother-
No, please, continue.

Admittedly, I can enjoy watching some of his interviews. But I don't understand why he drags himself to do stuff like this, that neither he, nor anyone else should give a shit about.

Even if it's a steaming pile of Hollywoods idea of Woke, what movie isn't at this point? Margot Robbie has been carrying that cross for Hollywood since at least Suicide Squad.

I have no love for either. It's so damn nonconstructive.

Looks like downstairs at the Green Hills theater by Green Hills Mall.

Hopefully nobody mistakes this pussy as being an example of manhood.

For completeness. This is the video thumbnail for the review he posted from these notes.