MAGA Turns on Joe Rogan as He Endorses RFK Jr. and Not Trump

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MAGA Turns on Joe Rogan as He Endorses RFK Jr. and Not Trump
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Joe Rogan finally has done something useful by pissing off stupid people.

– and splitting the vote. That’ll do.

Does anyone really take Rogan seriously enough to follow his endorsement? Enough people to make a dent?

At one point the dude had 90,000,000 listeners. That's about 1/3rd of the country.

Granted, they're not all US based.

not all carbon based either.

Some of them are silicone based

Silicon. But Yeah, that's the joke.

Unless you are talking about sentient fake tits?

These are the people that are deeply concerned about the sexuality of M&Ms, they take every-fucking-thing seriously

These are the people that are deeply concerned about the sexuality of M&Ms

That's...kinda weird.

Like, yeah, the green one is canonically trans. And sure, some people refer to their HRT as "Fem&M's", but most people don't obsess over it like they do.

Honestly, Joe Rogan can get people to believe some pretty weird stuff. For example, I believe the inside of his skull may just be packed with meat. Like, an actual pulsing node of meat. I know it sounds crazy, but if it were to be true for anyone it'd be him.

Imagine that, sentient meat. I wonder what would happen if you gave a Hickory Farms summer sausage some DMT. Can sausages do DMT? Jamie, pull that up.

unrelated, you should read the short story "they're made out of meat" by Terry Bisson.

it's about aliens trying to figure out humans.

Eh maybe. To many conservative men, he's savvy enough to make them feel edgy while still having ideas and thoughts that are mentally accessible to them. Basically, he's saying Trump is old news, and most people looking at Trump can see he is old news.

who paid him and how much to do it?

I wonder what finally pushed him to do this. Was it leaving a bear cub in Central Park that clinched it?

To be fair, I’m sure a ton of stupid people were really happy about this as well.

He backpedaled so fast. Mr. Rogan also has to take testosterone.

"He's the only one who makes sense to me"

Ahahaha! Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder.

It's a very telling sign of having brain worms, when the official candidate of brain worms that polls at 4% is "the only one who makes sense". Joe should probably have his brain scanned, and stop eating raw meat he shot himself... but the worms won't let him.

Bear carcass dumping in Central Park to own the libs sealed it for Rogan.

The whole thing read to me like a Seinfeld episode - Kramer accidentally kills a whale off the coast of New York, and with the show having made dozens of Kennedy references, hearing of a Kennedy dumping a bear in Central Park would fit right in.

So this doesn't feel even like an own to anyone, more like a parody, a comedy. And in the context of it actually happening 1. in the setting of probably the most famous one, 2. with a character from the exact family they've referenced many times over and 3. with the same type of bizarre things happening to wildlife one of which has been one of the most famous episodes.

To me, as a lib, it feels like the best Seinfeld/Curb Your Enthusiasm episode that's never been written.

Edit: Now that I think about it, the story even came out because he told it to Roseanne Barr, writer of most popular sitcom just prior to Seinfeld, notwithstanding her interminable slide, with her just staring at him incredulously throughout, the whole thing feeling like a Curb Your Enthusiasm scene. Honestly, at this point Larry David is definitely thinking to himself that he could never have written anything this Larry David.

Edit 2: I completely forgot that his, Larry David's, wife in Curb Your Enthusiasm is RFK Jr.'s actual wife. At this point I'm about 80% sure that multiple Seinfeld and/or Curb episodes were actually just Kennedy misadventures in disguise.

I guess we're going to start seeing evidence that Joe Rogan is trans now from the people that "can always tell."

Off topic but when watching the Monarch show I found it pretty fucking hilarious when Kurt Russell's character was like "let them right? Really? That's all we could come up with?"

"MAGA turns on Joe Rogan".

Fucking ewwww

Astronaut looking at earth, other astronaut behind him with a gun.

MAGA: the only people who give a flying fuck who joe rogan's voting for

No, but don’t you understand that the media and elites are trying to control us and constantly interjecting their political opinion into everything. 😡

Even though the only party that has voted in Hollywood elites and the ultra wealthy is…. A mystery.

Joe Rogan endorsing RFK JR is the most inevitable thing to ever happen. Why is MAGA even surprised? If you’ve ever listened to even one of Rogan’s podcasts, RFK JR is very much like Rogan.

Hopefully this helps Harris.

Joe Rogan endorsing RFK JR is the most inevitable thing to ever happen.

I would have said RFK Jr is the safe, neutral, "I'm not really into politics" pick. But the latest headlines around him are such a clown show, he almost feels like the New Trump. If every new media cycle is fixated on "The crazy thing RFK Jr just did!" it sucks oxygen out of the room for the conservatives who feed on controversy.

It all depends who RFK takes votes from and in which states. RFK has some appeal to classical liberals who dabble in science denial, and I think they've long been part of Trump's base bizarrely - so yeah, more votes for RFK is less votes for Trump now in most cases.

It must be very humbling for Rogan to realize his whole world is controlled by Trump and he is nothing but a bootlicker. He though he was his own man and he is learning that is not true.

It must be very humbling for Rogan to realize his whole world is controlled by Trump

Its not. Rogan's a rat fleeing a sinking ship. In another month there will be more rats (Nick Fuentes has bailed, some of the AM Radio shills are taking a few careful steps back, and you can already see GOP fundraising emails have completely abandoned using JD Vance's image). And - baring a Biden/Harris style shake-up and realignment with national media - I am willing to bet we're going to see a route of media support by election day.

Nobody wants to be associated with the stink of loser-dom in the GOP. And Trump's increasingly looking like a dead fish.

Meanwhile, Rogan's going to keep churning out his muscle man carny act well into 2028, long after Trump is in the rear view mirror.

The continued infighting from the red team is hilarious

Yeah it's cathartic and all, but these people will lash out hard if/when he loses. I think we need to be taking this very seriously.

Meh, I'm armed to the teeth, I'm not worried. This is one of the reasons I heavily support the 2nd...no cop or military is coming to protect me. They'll come with a toe tag at best.

Rogan playing 4D hopscotch with this endorsement.

Or something, idk. What a fucking knuckle dragger.

Bizarre. I thought RFK Jr was being bank rolled by a repub to split the vote on the dem side. Last poll has him at 6% in Michigan. Remember, split votes gave MI to Trump in 2016, assuming the Stein and Harambe votes would’ve been Hillary instead.

RFK is a conspiracy nut too. Strange guy. I’ve never listened to Rogan. But if this splits the vote the other way, great.

To be fair, if my uncle and dad were murdered by the CIA I'd be a conspiracy nut too. Although Republicans will probably regret elevating him now, as he seems to be peeling more people off Trump than democrats.

He’s not peeling any democrats off. Only libertarians and conservative conspiracy theorists. Aka Rogan fans. The idea that dems would just vote for a Kennedy is exactly the kind of strategy I expect from trump and his ilk.

I thought the idea was that his policies on the environment and affordable home ownership look good to liberal voters at first glance.

If anyone gets passed the brain worms and the crazy conspiracies then maybe he’s earned it. But I doubt there’s any statistical chance he’s going to negatively impact the dem ticket.

And his name.

ETA: That's the thought process, not how I feel. Last year there were literally conservatives saying "the left will vote for a Kennedy"

I agree for the most part, but he's also influential to dudebros, who could also be convinced to vote blue for drug legalization.

The problem being those dude bros are too caught up in toxic masculinity and inceldom to ever be able to vote for a dem.

assuming the Stein and Harambe votes would’ve been Hillary instead.

Ah, yes, because Stein and Harambe had very similar platforms to Hillary.

Maybe, maybe not. Had a couple friends who were Tulsi fans when she was running that went full bore irate at the two part system after Hillary was selected. Bernie people as well. Felt the DNC forced Hillary down our throats and then went and voted Stein out of spite. Or didn’t vote. Moderates who didn’t want either didn’t vote.

I don’t think it had anything to do with platform, more spite than anything.

I wanted to post this in !LeopardsAteMyFace@lemmy.world but that community appears to have been shut down a few months ago.

But anyway, I say good. Let them fight!

Maybe try !leopardsatemyface@moist.catsweat.com

It's been active in the last few weeks.

Shows as empty for me. Is that a federation issue?

Probably if your instance just resolved it and didn't know of it before now. Give it a few to do the initial fetch and refresh.

I know it's Rogan, but seriously? Brain worm guy?

Brain Worm Guy is a conspiracy theorist, like Rogan is.

It's a match made in heaven in Joe's eyes. Rfk Jr says what joro thinks but sounds smarter when he says it. It's still bullshit. But it sounds smarter so Joe likes it. Specifically the anti vaccine stuff

RFK is just as crazy as Trump but with a slightly more sensible policy. That's not saying much, but he's useful as a spoiler candidate. I feel like he's gonna take more from Trump than Harris.

Because he's only doing this to stay neutral, and avoid losing subscribers. Guarantee he's voting for Trump... like most rich celebrities who pretend they're just like the rest of us...

I honestly think he doesn't vote. Because he has said that the whole system is a silly popularity contest. I agree. But I also think it's a good thing to vote.

If you think a single thing that dude says is in good faith I've got a bridge to sell you.

He's a grifting right-wing propagandist and that's all.

Nah. He's just edging both sides for the con. He doesn't actually give a shit. He's rich.

I think it's a good thing to have the option of voting and having it count as a vote. Thus, I'll be voting in this election, just like the last.

But RFK (In that leaked phone call) said his plan was to drop put and endorse Trump right before the election.

Source? I completely missed that part. I just remember Trump’s bullshit anti-vaccine comments

I don't think RFK ever stated any such intentions, Trump on the other hand did insinuate a possible cabinet position for RFK ^[1]. Knowing Trump though, I assume it was one of his many off-hand lies and not reflecting his intention - or indeed anything connected to actual reality, as is his wont.

Can anyone explain what those endorsements are for? Is it literally just people that garner clout for a living saying "Hey I would vote for this one" or do they have actual consequences. If the former, why would anyone care?

It is just a public statement of support. There are only consequences to the extent that people care about/respect the opinion and judgment of the person giving the endorsement.

In this case, it's valuable to RFK Jr in so far as individuals listening to Joe Rogan either think Joe has good insights into who should be president, or just want to be like him and will vote the way they think he will vote

People listen to other people's opinions. You don't care about joe rogans opinion, so his endorsement means nothing. Other people do listen to him and will take his endorsement into consideration. "I agree with what Rogan says alot, he's probably more well informed than me, so if he says someone is worth the vote, well then I don't have to think about it myself and can trust him"

It's newsworthy when a public figure throws their endorsement around, you just don't care about the news

When Tim Pool endorses your decision, you know it is a bad one.

Tim Poole is the dumbest person with a platform. This is not hyperbole. I didn't forget about anyone else that may be mentioned, Tim is dumber.

Not hyperbole, actual truth.

I've never heard of this guy before, so I had to research. Wikipedia entry for his early life: "Pool was born in Chicago, Illinois, and grew up in a middle-class family. His father was a firefighter and his mother sold cars. Pool attended a Catholic school until completing the fifth grade and left school at the age of 14."

Whelp. That explains a lot. I have yet to hear him speak or read any quotes on wiki or elsewhere. Though I can predict a certain cadence of speech and lack of even the tiniest depth of understanding of whatever he's talking about.

So which do we think came first? Private school or the dumb?

Some More News did a long video on him here. It's a bit long and focuses mostly solely on him. If you're looking for something that's a little more broader and covers these general types of guys they have a better video titled "Are Men Okay?". I actually think the 'are men okay?' one should be watched by everyone especially the end.

until completing the fifth grade and left school at the age of 14

These two things do not correlate.

Sure they do, it's just phrased awkwardly. He attended Catholic school through his fifth grade year, and non-Catholic school until he ultimately dropped out at age 14.

So his entire audience?

Nah some of them are enlightened centrists who buy into his slightly right-leaning all sides schtick.

Do me this experiment please 🙏🥺. Go to YouTube and every time you see "Joe Rogan" anything, just go to down vote and unsubscribe...oh wait I meant, not interested.

You will find that you can't remove Joe Rogan from your feed. It's just going to come in the form of another video.

I have zero Joe Rogan on my feed. You are literally making it worse by engaging with his content in any way (down votes being a big one). Just completely ignore content you don't like and it'll go away over time.

I was going to say... maybe it's like those ubsubscribe buttons on spam email, lol.

content algorithms don't consider your preferences; they consider your engagement. if you downvote something, you're engaging with it. that's good for the site. they don't care if you hate it if it keeps you there.

Sorry but it's just you. I didn't even know Joe Rogan was on YouTube, and I'm on that website daily.

Your dislikes don't affect the recommendations you get; your habits do.

As someone who plays Heart of Iron and watches a bunch of history and gun channels, the only thing that got YouTube to stop pushing fascists in my feed was watching Dimension 20 and Some More News.

Ty, Brennan Lee Mulligan and Cody Johnston, for fixing my algorithm.

The algorithm for me is so fucked that I get ads for deepsea oil rig sand traps, and spanish language ads for deodorant. I live in the middle of the US am poor, and only speak English.

But if you ever need an oil rig in a pinch while also smelling refreshed, man, your prepared for it

I want to meet the person the ads are ment for, are there a lot of oil rig operators watching minecraft lets plays and Pop music videos?

Same. I've never looked up Joe Rogan and I've never gotten Joe Rogan videos on YouTube.

I have not seen anything about Joe Rogan on my Youtube in well over a year. and I am literally on youtube for most of everyday.

I listen to a lot of comedy podcasts on Spotify. Haven't listened to Rogan in years. I literally only tune in if it's a guest I really want to hear and can get over Rogan being there for 2-3 hours. Still, if I put on a podcast before bed and fall asleep to it, so many times it autoplays Rogan after I fall asleep. Like 90+% of the time. I legit think the algorithm pushes him at that hour to pump his numbers up, but hey, maybe I'm being a roganesque conspiracy nut.

Wow, I was wrong. RFK, Jr can split the MAGA vote! President Harris should give him and Rogan a medal...

Like Rittenhouse, he abandons Trump and then after all the death threats and boycotts he scrambles to go back to him.

Gotta keep in.mind all of these media personalities do things like that for the attention it gets them

I have no trouble believing Joe Rogan's support for RFK Jr. is genuine, but sure, we can pretend he's just doing it to get attention for his humble little $250mil podcast. It's not like he's got a decade's long public history of being a stupid fucking meathead or anything...

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